164. Is Your Dog's Breath Killing You? Try THIS

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Welcome back pet parents.
If you remember back to earlier

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this year, I had Doctor Katie
Kangas on for Dental Health

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Month, which was back in
February and we did a whole

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episode on our pets dental
health, which was so

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informative.
I'm still like, she's one of my

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favorite people in the whole
world now because she does such

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a good job relating this
information to like the average

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person like me.
And one of the things that she

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introduced us to, I started
using with my dog and I have

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been trying to figure out ways
to incorporate it in my cat's

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life as well.
It's a product called Teeth now

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teeth there, that's the animal
side of it.

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There's also a human side of it.
And on today's episode I have

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Emily Stein with us, who is the
Co founder and CEO of Primal.

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What is it?
Tell me what it is.

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It's primal something
technology, Primal health,

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Primal health, which is the
parent company for teeth, teeth

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and then the human.
We'll, we'll get all of this

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information from her.
But I have actually noticed a

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huge difference in my dog's oral
health, which was what I was

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going for, because she does not
like to chew on things.

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She especially raw meaty bones.
They have to be very, very,

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she's very particular about
anything she chews on.

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She is a Princess in that
regard.

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And I have tried so many things.
I was really so happy when

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Doctor Kangas introduced me to
this.

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So really quick before we get
into it, if you are new here, if

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this is the first time that you
are hearing me, my name is

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Jessica.
I am a canine nutritionist, a

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pet health coach and the host of
the podcast you're listening to

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right now, the Pet Parenting
Reset.

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And on this podcast, we talk
about all things health and

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quality of life for your pets.
So the idea is that when we know

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better, we can do better.
So Emily, thank you so much for

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being here with us today.
How are you doing?

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It's.
My pleasure.

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I'm doing quite well, thank you.
So teef is just the animal

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branch, which is why that's kind
of my thing.

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We talk all about animals.
You gave me some of the samples

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at Super Zoo for the tabs for
humans to use after you eat.

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And they are, they're yummy.
Like they're pepperminti,

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they're yummy.
I love them.

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So we'll, we'll talk a little
bit about that too.

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But can you tell us a little bit
about how you got into this, how

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you have become so like
ingrained in dental health for

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pets and people?
Yeah, yeah.

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No, it was definitely not my
chosen career move.

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I was a microbiology nerd for
the longest time, and then

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autoimmune disease runs in my
family, so I wanted to pursue a

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career in in rheumatology
research.

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And my grandmother who had
rheumatoid arthritis actually

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had a stroke one day from a
tooth extraction the day before.

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So it turns out that, yeah,
they've done analysis now and

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Medicaid populations, Medicare,
we're talking 50 to 60,000

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Americans each study.
And it's showing that if we get

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a tooth pulled or a dental
implant placed, there's a 50%

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increased risk of a heart attack
or a stroke that that increased

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risk lasts for four weeks after
the procedure and doesn't

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normalize back to 0 baseline
until six months after.

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And, and what we know is that,
OK, something bad is going on in

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that mouth if you have to get a
tooth fold or a dental implant

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placed.
And those microbes, it turns

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out, are a driving force for
causing cavities and gum

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disease.
And they don't just stay in the

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mouth.
And so when you pull a tooth,

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they can go inside and cause
problems as well.

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And dogs can have strokes if
they get a tooth extracted.

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I've met with several pet
parents that that that's

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happened to.
Long story short, I biohacked my

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grandma, came up with a
naturally safe approach that was

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not toxic because microbes can
design around antibiotics and

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antiseptics all day long.
But we're speaking the language

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that they understand, which is
nutrition, and we're trying to

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repopulate the mouth with a
diverse repertoire of microbes

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that keep each other in check.
And the way we're able to do

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that is literally by cutting off
their carbon source, sugar,

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carbohydrate, and then telling
them to go keto just in the

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mouth, not not anywhere else.
A couple years after grandma, I

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rescued a 10 year old Cocker
spaniel and she almost died of a

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bloodstream infection from tooth
problems.

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So within the 1st 36 hours after
2 to 36 to 48 hours after I got

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her, we were in the emergency
department extracting 21 teeth,

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pumping her body full of
antibiotics to save her life,

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$6000 on my credit card.
That was a really rough weekend

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and it just highlights the the
pervasive.

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Problem that is so interesting
and the only things like I just

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kept thinking about as you were
talking were all the times

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especially with my cats at it's
like I did correlate that OK,

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they just got their teeth
cleaned.

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Especially in my elderly cats, I
just got their teeth cleaned and

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30 days later, now I'm dealing
with another problem that's

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like, wait, what happened?
They were perfectly fine.

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Their blood work was great 30
days ago when they went in for

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this teeth cleaning.
And now I'm dealing with IBD or

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I'm dealing with cancer or I'm
dealing with like there's so

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much that I mean, me personally,
I'm sure everybody out there

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listening is like, Oh my gosh,
yes.

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Like I've dealt with this too.
And it doesn't.

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I mean, it makes sense because
everything in the body is

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connected.
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Even though a lot of traditional
doctors may not work that way.

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We have a lot of specialists,
especially in human medicine,

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where, like, one part doesn't
want to talk to the other part

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for some reason.
It's like, no, you weren't

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together.
I know, I know, I like, I talk

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to Dennis all the time.
And they're like, wait, what?

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Because when someone has a
stroke, they don't go back to

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their dentist, right?
They go to the emergency

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department and then see a
cardiologist.

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And so it's only now that the
payers like Medicaid, Medicare

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insurance providers are forcing
this oral systemic discussion

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and dialogue is because the data
is there.

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It's been there for 30 to 40
years and we need to pay

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attention to it.
And I've literally right before

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I got on this podcast, I'm
writing up a NIH grant because

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we're working on the the certain
microbes that inhabit the mouths

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of dogs, cats and humans that
are linked to head and neck and

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colon cancer.
Oh, wow.

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Yeah.
Wow, well and I so 3.

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Has it been three years, three
years ago switched to a holistic

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or some people call them
biological dentist and it has

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made for me a big difference in
I've always had fear of the

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dentist.
I still do to some degree, like

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I, I can't, I can have my teeth
cleaned now and I'm OK.

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But if I have to have any like
work done, because I've had a

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ton of dental work done as a
child and I've had braces twice

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in my life and all the things
like so much.

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And so if I actually have to
have work done, I have to have

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Valium.
I have to, they're they're

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giving me gas on top of that,
like I can't, I have a hard

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time, but I I'm having an easier
time.

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I have found with my holistic
dentist, I think in the way that

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he approaches things and the
fact that I just feel more

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comfortable, even though I still
don't like needles and all of

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that.
He uses ozone in the water for

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when we, you know, rinse and do
all like there, there are so

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many different practices that
he, he evaluated all of my

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fillings to make sure I didn't
need to have any of them

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replaced with, you know, if they
were whatever the junky fillings

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are it.
And I did also when I was in my

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late 20s, have a root canal,
which interestingly, we had a

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cavity filled and literally the
week after I'm like screaming in

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pain and I'm calling the dentist
like what is going on?

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They're like, this is completely
unrelated.

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And I'm like, no, I don't
believe that it's unrelated.

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No, what we now know is inside
every single tooth, it has its

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own distinct microbiome.
And it can be a good one to keep

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the tooth healthy, but it can
also be a bad one that causes

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cavities.
And when they dig into the tooth

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and drill, they can't get all
the lateral canals inside.

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So if it's a bad community
causing problems, they can't get

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to all those microbes.
They try the best they can and

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dig, dig it out and then they
feel it.

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But it's nearly impossible to to
get them all out.

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And so that's why our philosophy
is to really just grow your

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inherent good.
Yeah.

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So what can you tell me a little
bit about, since we're so like

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we're talking so much about
human stuff, let's start with

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the human product.
I imagine they're pretty

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similar, but can you tell me a
little bit about the human

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product and then we'll talk
about?

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The pet product, yeah, the human
products built for my well, it

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was built for my grandmother.
So we originally put the

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ingredients in a lozenge because
she couldn't brush her teeth

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because her rheumatoid was so
bad she couldn't hold a

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toothbrush anymore.
And she had so green syndrome,

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so her body killed all of her
salivary glands.

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So her mouth was a hot mess and
she had perio.

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And because rheumatoid arthritis
and perio are actually quite

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linked.
And, and so we, you know, I,

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when I biohacked my grandmother,
just taking a step back, like I

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grabbed her biofoam, holtered it
up and bought every single

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naturally safe ingredient I
could find on the market, did

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high throughput screening.
It's come up with a naturally

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safe combination of ingredients
that would block per microbes

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from causing problems and a lot
that actually had a lot to do

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with carbohydrate then eating
carbohydrate.

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So when people eat certain
diets, we skew for microbes that

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can eat that diet because we
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The microbes in US eat the food
and they secrete the waste

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products that we actually eat.
And so it turned out grandma

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liked her sweets.
She'd go to the bakery and all

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this stuff, and then her
microbes reflected that.

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And So what works for her, Turns
out it works quite well for most

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human beings.
And then sadly, dogs and cats,

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because more and more
carbohydrates are being used as

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cheap fillers in treats and
chews and feed and it's causing,

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it's growing the same
problematic microbes that are

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driving the disease process or,
or downstream disease processes.

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So, so our approach was
literally, hey, let's put these

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active ingredients that puts the
oral microbes on a keto diet in

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a lozenge so that grandma can
just suck on it after she, she

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eats something or drinks her
coffee with a little bit of

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sugar and milk in it, right.
And that worked, that worked

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quite well.
And we've done numerous clinical

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studies in humans, both in
memory care, older independently

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living adults, kiddos with
orthodontic appliances and now

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just we're doing a study right
now and a big swath of a

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population between 18 and 80
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So showing that this approach
has long term benefits not just

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within the mouth, but perhaps
beyond the mouth.

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Beyond the mouth is something I
want to talk about later on,

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actually.
So for let me go back to my dog

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Kim.
Sure she's going to be 11 this

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year and actually next month
she's going to be 11.

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It's an arbitrary birthday, but
that is what it is.

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I always celebrate her birthday
on Halloween.

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So she'll be 11 and she has
never.

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I adopted her when she was 2
1/2.

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She has been raw fed ever since.
Now that she's getting older,

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sometimes she'll go through
bouts for like she wants her

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food cooked so still is a gently
cooked food.

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But she has never ever, ever and
I have tried for years.

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She doesn't like to chew on
things, which is not typical of

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a dog.
Like most dogs, it's just innate

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for them to chew on things.
And I have tried so many things

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and gosh, I would love for her
too, but she just doesn't.

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So when I had her last check up
in March of this year, because

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she gets every six months, I, I
have a full check.

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I mean, she's getting into her
senior years.

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I have a full check up blood
panel, heartworm test.

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All the things, not all the
things we don't over vaccinate,

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just FY.
But the vet was like, you know,

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her gums still look good, but
she's got build up on her teeth

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and it's starting to look kind
of gnarly.

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And I, I like, I'm just going to
be honest.

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I am that busy pet parent like
everybody else who is not good

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at brushing their dog's teeth.
And when I do, it's something

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natural like a coconut oil and I
might add some like natural like

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essential oils or something to
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And the teeth.
I feel she's going to have

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another check up in October, but
I can already see difference

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just in adding this to her
water.

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So what exactly what it's called
the teeth product.

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I was looking on the website,
it's called protecting what

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exactly?
So it's these you're blocking

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bacteria from eating the
carbohydrates to fuel them.

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Can you like?
That's what how I understand it,

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but I just want to be.
Sure, I understand it.

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Yeah, Yeah.
So I'll channel the way microbes

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think just a minute.
So that might help.

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Related to dental.
So microbes always make a home.

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It's called human medicine.
We call it biofilm.

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But in microbiology, it's just
it.

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We call it biofilm too, but it's
more just their home.

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But they make their, you know,
either they use bricks or they

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use on wood.
And so in the mouth they're

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using sugar.
And when they build up that

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sugar, it's actually a pretty
protective barrier and Shields

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them from digestive enzyme,
Shields them from being cleaned

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out and rinsed away by saliva.
It's very protective and it's

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super charged, and that is hard
for things that are commonly

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found in dental products for
dogs and cats to even penetrate.

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So you're just wasting a lot of
money when you're buying a lot

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of dental products on the
market.

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What we're doing is actually
changing what they're eating so

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they're not able to use that
sugar in a diet and convert it

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into the house material that's
super durable, like a brick

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house.
Instead, it's a thinner, more

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fragile environment that can be
cleaned away with the wipe of a

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finger over time.
But importantly, what they make

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their their house out of is no
longer something that causes

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inflammation, demineralization,
decay, and and gum disease.

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Instead, it's more neutral and
it doesn't cause dental

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problems.
And so because we want, we know

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from years and years of work in
rheumatology that if you, if you

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kill the microbes in the mouth,
you're going to wind up with big

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problems.
And you're going to if, if you

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kill if like a lot of the
products on the market for

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dental contain these very
powerful antiseptics which kill

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very good bacteria and they
ingest it, right.

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And so then it's screwing up
their gut microbiomes too.

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And that's why we're also, it's
contributing to allergies and

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problems downstream.
And so our approach is really,

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hey, let's work with the
microbes, let's just change what

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they're eating so that they're
not causing disease associated

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problems.
They're in fact at least neutral

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or beneficial.
And so that's the whole goal.

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And we found that over a ton of
years of research is that

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putting them on a keto diet in
the mouth is a really good.

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Thing so OK, I get the biofilm
thing because it can be very

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difficult to penetrate, which is
why my dentist uses ozonated

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water because that can kind of
penetrate the penetrate the.

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First couple layers and then the
ozone gets turned into oxygen.

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So when we think about how it
could possibly be affecting

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other parts of the body because
they're ingesting it, they're

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drinking it, we know what it's
doing in the mouth.

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You mentioned you're kind of
studying benefits and maybe the

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digestive system as well.
Could it still be doing the same

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thing?
Because I know with a lot of

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dogs that I work with that have
very severe food sensitivities,

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they have a lot of GI issues.
It is difficult.

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Like everybody wants, there's
always trends and always fads,

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right?
Everybody wants to go to fecal

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transplant capsules and all.
And I'm like, doesn't work.

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But if, yeah, if that biofilm in
the gut isn't like it's not

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going to penetrate that.
We've got to be able to so, so

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many people find that it doesn't
work.

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Not that that therapy itself
isn't beneficial, it, it

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definitely is.
But we've got to get the gut to

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a place that can accept it.
Yeah.

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And.
And just to like to interrupt a

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little bit is like we've been
doing fecal transplant in humans

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way longer than companion
animals, except for the

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experimental animal dog group,
which let's not even go there.

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Like it doesn't except for C
diff, it doesn't work for IBD,

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it doesn't work for IBS, it
doesn't work for Crohn's.

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And that's because we cannot
eradicate our own seed.

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We have somewhere in us what we
were born with that gets fixed

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humans by the age of three, dogs
much earlier in their life.

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And then we kind of, it kind of
changes baseline exposures to

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stress drugs, antibiotics,
antiseptics.

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But like, you can eat you, you
can take a fecal transplant, but

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then your own seed will grow
back.

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Yeah.
And so that's how powerful your

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own microbial fingerprint is.
And so that's why we've only

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ever, we're not introducing
microbes into the equation.

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We're working with a dog's own
microbes or a cat's own microbes

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and just trying to get them to
be a little bit better.

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Interesting.
So one question I do have, and

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this can kind of segue us into
the new treat line for dogs and

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cats that that teeth just came
out with was as I was prepping

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for this interview, I was
thinking lot because I've been a

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cat mom a lot longer than I've
been a dog mom and I have been

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through so much more with my
cat.

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I like I've been through a good
amount with my dogs in my

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lifetime, but I feel like I've
been through it was much more

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with my cats and it is
different.

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Like they're not the type of
animals that are just naturally

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gravitated to drinking a whole
lot of water.

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They need their moisture in
their diet for sure.

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And so while cats that do drink
whatever they do drink this, you

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know, the powder in the water
absolutely can be beneficial.

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But what I was wondering is if I
were to take like a Mason jar

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and put my filtered water into
it and add my teeth to it and

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then pour that each day into say
their wet food or their raw

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food, is it going to have the
same benefit?

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Yeah, yeah, because the way cats
eat, it's a little bit different

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than dogs.
Cats will coggle, but their

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tongues have these little hairs
on them, and those appendages

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actually increase the surface
area significantly.

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And then if they're curved?
I don't, I can't like for that

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much, but if that's the back and
that's the front and so behind

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there is actually saliva and
microbes.

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Well, microbes are coating the
entire tongue, but like and

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like, so every little, like
every little bite will

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definitely help.
In our studies we're at, we've

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done where we're adding it to
wet food or to the lick pads

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with like the furball stuff or
you name it.

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You can even put the powder in
your hand.

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I've seen kittens lick it right
out of my hand.

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So there's those things.
Anytime you can coat the tongue,

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that's a great way to start to
distribute it and get it in the

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saliva and get it working.
OK, so I think that could be a

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good tip for people because I, I
was putting it in my cat's water

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and they're not drinking it.
And I'm like, even though they

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don't really drink water, I
always have water available for

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them.
And I'm like, I'm just wasting

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this, right?
Yeah.

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So I was, I was like, how else
can I get this in them?

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Yeah.
We have some customers that fill

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a syringe, just give them a give
them a dose.

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We're working on a fast dissolve
tablet that you can just put in

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their cheek and it just
dissolves.

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We are working on stuff.
It's just in a gel but just

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takes time to roll these things
out.

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Yeah.
So tell me a little bit about

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these treats that you're coming
out with or.

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Have to, yeah.
So the treats, again, are built

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solely focused on keeping those
microbes trained on that keto

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diet because honestly, cats
should never come into contact

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with carbohydrates, right?
And dogs definitely shouldn't

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really either.
Maybe chewed up grasses and

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green things because they've
historically eaten rabbits and

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things like that that process
greens.

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But the microbes that we're
seeing in the mouths of dogs and

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cats these days are very, very,
very similar, nearly identical

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to the human signature.
So they really are becoming

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omnivores.
But their guts, their whole

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Physiology is not built for
that.

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But their microbiomes, which are
the unspoken organ system in

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their body, has already changed.
And so there's this disconnect.

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And So what we're trying to do
with the treats, because cats

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and small dogs don't drink a lot
of water, the water is the

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easiest way, easiest vehicle for
us to get this diet program

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going.
And the thought was originally

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a, we'll just put in their
water, they'll drink throughout

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the day, and then the micros
will be trained throughout that

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day so they don't go off keto.
Well, it turns out it's not that

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easy.
Dogs and cats this, you know,

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are more difficult and every,
everyone is different and what

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how much water they take in
every day.

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And so we've had to come up with
a different approach.

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And it's been very long time in
the making of finding the right

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animal proteins and A and we're
freeze drying them.

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So they go from raw frozen
immediately into a freeze dried

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modality coated with our teeth
powder.

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And then the only preservative
on board is a little bit of

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vitamin E, and so it's as clean
as you can get and it keeps

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those microbes on that keto
dive.

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It is so interesting and I think
doable for people.

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Yeah, doable, because everybody
likes to get give treats to

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their pets, right?
Eventually we're going to come

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out with toppers too.
That's the next phase.

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Oh nice that that would be
great.

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So feel like I overheard Dr.
Katie Kangas talking to somebody

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at Super Zoo about their dog and
they were she had so they this

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dog, I'm not going to get too
much into detail about this dog,

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but boy, it is a French bulldog.
So we can imagine, we can

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imagine and, and the person who
owns this dog, by the way, has

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done wonders with this dog.
But, and I think this year

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especially, so many pet parents
have noticed the seasonal

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allergies are like off the
charts.

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Don't know what that's about.
But for whatever reason, this

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year that's kind of been the
trend.

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And so this dog was like
itching, licking paws again,

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It's like, no, because you know,
you work so hard to get to a

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point where the the dog is good.
And I feel like Doctor Kangas

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was like, add teeth.
And from July to August, I feel

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like I overheard that the dog
was doing better.

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Yeah.
I mean this.

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Is something we've now been
pulled into particularly the

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French Bulldogs, you know
because they don't get birth in

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a natural way.
And so they inherit they get

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inoculated with the microbiome
of the environment that they're

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birthed into not their mom's
microbiome as much.

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And then the way that the the
face is structured, they have a

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lot of post nasal drip.
And so they get a lot of sinus

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funk in their mouth and they
have a lot of dental problems

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and then they swallow.
So we all swallow microbes every

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day dogs, cats, humans, for
instance, beyond on average we

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swallow about 3 * 10 to the
10th.

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I mean not billions into
microbes every day, right?

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That that has an influence
downstream.

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And if you don't have enough
good beneficial microbes, guess

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what hurts the most Believe it
or not, it's actually your mast

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cells.
And so mast cells are the ones

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responsible for allergy and
asthma.

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And if we don't have enough
beneficial microbes, it turns

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out that our mast cells are
super hyperactive.

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And if we have harmful
inflammatory microbes, they keep

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on poking the bear.
And So what we've been finding

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is that by treating dogs mouths
and then spraying the same water

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on their hot spots that the hot
spots go down.

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But if we, you know, if you just
inundate the dogs with the teeth

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during that allergy season,
because on the East Coast it's a

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different time frame than the
West Coast for some reason that

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we can really take down that
inflammation.

449
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,280
Just so interesting and the idea
that you can use like a a spray

450
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,640
bottle for the hot spots, that's
incredible.

451
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,440
Yeah, a lot of the microbes on
the skin are sugar lovers, so by

452
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,640
putting them on the keto diet,
they'll just start to ratchet up

453
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040
the diversity, and then that
quiets down the immune response.

454
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,560
Wow.
So there are three different

455
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,400
products on the website.
There's a dog, a cat, and then

456
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,200
one that's for all pets, yes.
Can you tell me the difference

457
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,160
in?
Those Yeah.

458
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,440
So all pets is really all pets
with like kidney disease because

459
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,480
dogs and cats can have kidney
disease.

460
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,760
That's what we call it K + K,
OK, protecting 42.

461
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,360
Protecting 42 was our original
formula.

462
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,640
That's the one we've identified
in high throughput screening and

463
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,120
validation clinical studies that
works the best in dog.

464
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,360
It's almost identical to humans,
but we made a couple of key

465
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,800
tweaks which make it super fast
acting because literally there

466
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,520
is very little difference in the
mouth of a older dog with

467
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,120
advanced gum disease and in
Alzheimer's patient in memory

468
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,360
care.
Wow.

469
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,760
And a small dog that's maybe 7
or 8 years old, small dogs have

470
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,280
big problems.
So, so protective 42 was the

471
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,800
original formula that highly
concentrated.

472
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,240
It's only pure human grade high
active, which is why you don't

473
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,720
need a lot.
You just need a little because

474
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120
you're just dosing the mouth and
it's very concentrated.

475
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,240
The K version, we're missing the
bicarbonate, which is really

476
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,280
good at balancing the microbial
acids immediately.

477
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,800
But we found that a lot of dogs
and cats with tummy issues don't

478
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,400
like bicarb for some reason.
Plus it doesn't have any sodium,

479
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,720
which is sodium bicarbonate.
So that people very careful

480
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,960
about like what their dogs and
cats take, You know, that extra

481
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,800
2% sodium is nominal, but
there's still a healthy fear of,

482
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,680
of, of it.
So we just ripped it out of the

483
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
formula and that's what the all
pet is.

484
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,200
And then the protecting 30 is
the optimized version for cats.

485
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:45,440
And we've done now years of work
in almost 200 cats of all kinds

486
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,520
of breeds, socioeconomic status
in diets in disease states.

487
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480
And we found that boy, they need
a little bit extra help.

488
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,840
And so P30 Protectant 30 is
built specifically tailored to

489
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,680
address the needs that cats have
because their microbiomes are a

490
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320
little bit different and they
have a lot more fungal problems

491
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,880
then then we.
Recognize OK that's interesting

492
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:19,040
yeah that is very interesting so
if somebody just say had both

493
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600
dogs and cats in the house and.
All pets.

494
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Easy.
Do that all pet and you're good

495
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,600
probably.
Yeah, Yep, definitely if they

496
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,680
have a cat with stomatitis or
aggressive kidney disease that

497
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,120
keep the protectant 30 cat
version is something to put

498
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,840
think about putting on their cat
food.

499
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,920
I mean, my dog drinks the cat
version in his water.

500
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760
You know, once in a while I
switch him on to the cat version

501
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,440
because the the binding agent we
have is the cell wall of a green

502
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,720
allergy called chlorella.
And that is a great antioxidant

503
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,960
and binding agent for a lot of
these neurotoxins that the

504
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
fungus is making in their
mouths, which can cause

505
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800
downstream kidney problems,
liver issues and stuff like.

506
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,360
That very, very interesting.
I can see how this could be

507
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,080
something that obviously you're
introduced to, like somebody

508
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,400
like me is introduced to for
dental health, but it really

509
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,880
does have so many other benefits
in the body.

510
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,400
Yeah, our case study data is
pretty profound, like we're

511
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:34,680
seeing downstream benefit and
urinary and gut and skin.

512
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,800
So it does seem the mouth really
does seem to be at the gateway

513
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,760
to the body.
Yeah, well, I'm definitely going

514
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,800
to start adding it in a little
bit of water to my cat's food.

515
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,240
I have, I'm down down to three
kitties.

516
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
I don't know it will anybody out
there that knows me, that's

517
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,000
listening.
I the most I've ever had indoors

518
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,920
was 12, which is crazy, I know.
And I'm down to three, which is

519
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,520
very, very sad, but also like,
I'm tired.

520
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520
And that's horrible to say.
But literally since the day I

521
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,280
turned 18 and moved out, I have
always had at least one cat.

522
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,560
And I'm just, I'm tired.
And I think I feel like they're

523
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,600
tired.
They're all 16.

524
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,280
And they're like various things
happening and going on.

525
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,440
And as I was talking about
earlier, one of my cats in

526
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,920
February of this year had just a
routine dental cleaning, like no

527
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,240
extractions, just a routine
dental cleaning for being at the

528
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,600
time he was 15 years old.
Literally the next month I'm

529
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,840
calling the vet going, I need to
have blood work redone because

530
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
he has lost 3 lbs in a month.
Like what is going on?

531
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,600
And they diagnosed him.
You know, I took him for an

532
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,360
ultrasound, diagnosed him with
IBD, which isn't really a

533
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,400
diagnosis, but, you know, that's
what veterinarians do.

534
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
And I'm just like, how did this
happen?

535
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,360
One month?
But you know, we're messing

536
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,760
around in the mouth and
obviously things happen.

537
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Yeah, I mean, the amount of
microbes we swallow and it's

538
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,560
fake news that we were always
taught that the stomach acids

539
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
kill everything.
That's not true.

540
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520
They get through, they're alive
and they are having an impact.

541
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,560
And so if this is becoming
unhealthy, there will be a

542
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,200
downstream unhealthiness,
particularly when you put an

543
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,880
animal under, you go through a
transient stress response, which

544
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,920
means that they're kind of
immunocompromised.

545
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800
And then boom, one of those
microbes can really, we call it

546
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,320
bloom, bloom in the GI tract and
take over and really go towards

547
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,040
a dysbiotic environment, which
means the harmful ones take

548
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,120
over, the healthy ones are
really suppressed.

549
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400
And so then you see health
problems.

550
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,760
Well, and that's one of the
reasons why I'm liking more and

551
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,640
more the more you describe this.
It is changing.

552
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Changing what those microbes are
eating instead of trying to

553
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,440
change the microbes.
Yeah.

554
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,680
I and I talked to so many other
people that do what I do because

555
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,200
I actually do like one-on-one
consults with with pet parents

556
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,160
for their pets.
And it is it's never a hill, the

557
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,520
bad quote UN quote bad bacteria.
It's like that doesn't ever

558
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,640
work.
It never were anybody going in

559
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,600
trying to do that.
It never works like you have to

560
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760
crowd them out with more
beneficial bacteria.

561
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,800
But in this case, it just seems
so much more seems like a more

562
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:57,520
holistic approach to and
personalized, yeah, to yes, to

563
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,240
working with the individual and
what they have going on in their

564
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,600
body instead of trying to force
change.

565
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,960
Because I think that's how
especially today, like in in

566
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,800
like our Western culture, we're
just like change it, change it,

567
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,880
change it.
And we're trying to force things

568
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,239
to happen.
And it's like that just doesn't

569
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,159
that doesn't always.
Work the language that microbes

570
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,480
speak quite well and have for
the beginning of life on Earth

571
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,239
is taking in certain nutrient
sources, deriving energy from it

572
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,520
and secreting waste products,
you know, and so that's the

573
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,239
language we're working with.
And it's just us examining what

574
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,239
cats and dogs are being fed
these days.

575
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:47,199
And you can have the best raw
diet, you think, but there will

576
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,159
be residual sugars always you
can't I mean sugars and bone

577
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:57,080
marrow sugar gets calculated is
something else in muscle, but

578
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,240
you can still be derived from
muscle tissue.

579
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,480
It's just not reported that way.
But it's, it's like microbes are

580
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
really good at figuring out how
to how to eat.

581
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,960
And so we're literally speaking
their language by what we're

582
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,640
doing.
And we're not killing, we are

583
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840
just causing.
Nutrient pressure, so

584
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,520
interesting and definitely
something I'm going to use a lot

585
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,800
more, not just with my pets, but
with my clients pets because

586
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,720
first, first of all, how can you
go wrong, right?

587
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Yeah, I mean the adverse event,
it's like, OK, maybe you might

588
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,080
have more frequent urination for
a day as you start shedding the

589
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,840
downstream, the harmful microbes
and yeast from your general

590
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,600
urinary tractor.
OK, maybe you had to had a loose

591
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,560
stool event maybe once after
three days, but then everything

592
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,520
is fine.
You know what we find is there

593
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,240
is a shedding event.
So lacrimal secretions clear up

594
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:59,400
a little bit over time.
Some animals might you know,

595
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,440
because the sinuses are really
close to the mouth and the

596
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,840
microbes Burrow through the
palate and go into the sinuses.

597
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,280
So that gets cleaned up a little
bit.

598
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,120
Downstream is cleaning up the
gut microbiome definitely re

599
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,760
diversifies and improves in
general urinary.

600
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,200
So there is this whole shift
that occurs and some microbes

601
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,000
don't like to go easy.
Yeah.

602
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,720
So you might find on the human
side, you're craving sugar more

603
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,760
because the microbes are telling
you that they're starving of

604
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,520
sugar and then they're telling
you that, hey, I need to get fed

605
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,440
and I'm craving, I'm craving
this piece of pie or this ice

606
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,040
cream, right for a reason.
And then on the animal side,

607
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,240
transient aggression, we've
heard, or transient hunger, more

608
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:50,080
hunger or drinking more water.
But that's, you know, that's

609
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,720
the, that's the only thing we've
heard about.

610
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,120
But that's where you actually
realize how we're the puppets

611
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,920
and they're the puppeteers.
Yeah.

612
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,720
So on the human side, what is
your recommendation if people do

613
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,320
get like a sweet tooth after
using the product?

614
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,280
Yeah, just chase it with another
lozenge or we now came out with

615
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,240
the human version of our water
additive or pet.

616
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,200
So you could just add it and
you're drinking water and just

617
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,840
sip on it throughout the day.
Oh interesting, I might have to

618
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,400
do that because I'm definitely
AI drink a ton of water every

619
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,280
day.
That's my it's.

620
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,360
So important.
Water is so good.

621
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Oh my gosh.
More cats drink water, They'd be

622
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,200
so much better off.
They would.

623
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,320
I know you're right.
I mean, we can cut it with like

624
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,000
goat smell or bone broth or you
can cut it with that if that

625
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880
helps.
But there's some cats that just

626
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,680
refuse to drink water, yeah.
I think a lot, a lot of cat.

627
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,920
I actually knew somebody a long
time ago that like gave her cat.

628
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,200
She was a vet tech, so she gave
her cat fluids at home and got

629
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,120
to the point where she just
didn't even put a water bowl

630
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,760
down anymore.
And I'm like but still like.

631
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,040
I know.
The guilt.

632
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,840
The guilt.
I don't think I could do that.

633
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,280
I know.
I don't think I could just pick

634
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,800
up the water bowl and be like,
Oh well, no water.

635
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,240
I know.
But I mean, if your pet is not

636
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:19,440
drinking water, don't don't
necessarily waste your money on

637
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,080
teeth adding it to water.
Try other mechanisms methods of

638
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,840
getting it in like in the summer
months on dogs.

639
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,360
On this dog side of the
equation, we like you can make

640
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,040
ice with teeth water or I talked
about the syringe.

641
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,280
A lot of people, some people who
actually do brush their pet's

642
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,600
teeth and can just put the
powder on a wetted the bristles

643
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,440
on a toothbrush and start
brushing right away.

644
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,720
That's you can do that too.
Or, you know, just any way to

645
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:55,280
get it in their mouths once a
day at least is is going to be a

646
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,880
good thing.
So freeze resistant, is it?

647
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,240
It's hot like heat resistant
too, is it?

648
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,720
Yeah.
You can't boil it for more than

649
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:09,040
like 20 minutes and then you'll
kill the the the vitamin on

650
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,560
board, but which is doing a lot
of that a go keto side of the

651
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,120
equation because that's the
essential cofactor required for

652
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,360
the enzymes that bacteria use to
breakdown protein.

653
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
But but it can tolerate a lot.
Oh good.

654
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,720
That's good to know.
Because I know people do like,

655
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,720
especially with our dogs, a lot
of enrichment.

656
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:33,400
And I could see somebody like
adding it into like if they're

657
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,440
going to do freeze, freeze molds
of something or.

658
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,880
They can do that.
Tongs or you know, whatever

659
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,280
they're doing and just
absolutely sprinkle it in and.

660
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Yeah, you can even put a tiny
bit of peanut butter on a lick

661
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,200
pad and then sprinkle the powder
on top of that or something like

662
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,320
that.
It's a good way to get it really

663
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480
administered to the tongue.
Interesting.

664
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,800
Well, I think this is an
absolutely incredible product,

665
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,360
both for humans and for pets,
and I definitely encourage

666
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,320
people to check it out.
So it is, what is it?

667
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Teeth?
health.com.

668
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,320
Yeah, we call it.
Teeth for teeth for life because

669
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
the goal is to keep every tooth
in the in the mouth of an animal

670
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,800
for their lifetime.
Because if you lose a tooth, you

671
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,920
lose lifespan.
So our, our real true goal is to

672
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,760
love them longer.
That's so sweet.

673
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,440
I I love that.
And where can people find the

674
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,000
human product?
From our company website, you

675
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,400
can just go to
primalhealthllc.com.

676
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,360
We're rebranding it.
It's going to be called Bio

677
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,320
Neva, so stay tuned.
Yeah, it's so hard to name

678
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,440
products these days on the human
dental side because everything

679
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
is like taken.
So I think that took us six

680
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,440
months.
Wow, yeah, I appreciate, I mean,

681
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,000
obviously I appreciate it for
pets, but I appreciate it for

682
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,760
the the human product as well.
Because like I said, I've just

683
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,600
had, I mean, ever since I was a
kid, like I literally my

684
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200
childhood, most of, like so many
of my childhood memories are

685
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,200
sitting in a dentist office.
And Donald, trauma is real.

686
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,240
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I remember being that kid that,

687
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,240
you know, the, the dental text
hated because I always refused

688
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,400
fluoride.
And I'm like, no, you're not

689
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,960
putting that in my mouth.
And so like, I, you know, going

690
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,080
to the same dentist forever
growing up came to like an

691
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
agreement that I only did it
every so often.

692
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200
But now I look back and I'm
like, thank goodness.

693
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,760
Like fluoride is so bad for a.
Fire accumulates, Yep.

694
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,080
But what I can tell you is that
customers definitely come back

695
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
to us after they've been on our
product for like 6 solid months

696
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,960
to a year.
They're like, hey, I was in and

697
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,920
out of my hygiene chair and 15
to 20 minutes and I Genesis

698
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,240
like, what are you doing
differently?

699
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,760
You know, so if microbes make a
home that is not built out of

700
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,680
sugar, you won't have as much
black and you won't have as

701
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,800
much.
I love that.

702
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,240
Who wants to be in a dental
chair?

703
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Like nobody, nobody, nobody.
Yeah, so I am definitely going

704
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,400
to after because I just found
out that there was a human

705
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,720
product at Super Zoo.
So of all places, I know I'm

706
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,560
definitely going to onboard it
because I mean, I, I, I noticed

707
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,720
with changes that I have made in
my adult life, like things do go

708
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,280
easy, especially at my holistic
dentist, things do go easier for

709
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,760
me now that I have made a lot of
adjustments in my diet and, and

710
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,760
things.
But I just want to do everything

711
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,320
I can to like not be in the
dentist office.

712
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,760
So this is definitely something
I'm going to, yeah.

713
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,360
I mean.
It's definitely not cheap,

714
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,440
right?
Yeah, yeah.

715
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Delaying those lot of those big
costs are important.

716
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Yeah.
So are there also social pages

717
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,000
to follow?
Where?

718
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,760
Where?
Yeah.

719
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:01,280
So you can Google Teeth for Life
and you'll see us or Teeth, you

720
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,600
might pull up a rock band.
I guess in Germany and I, we

721
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,800
didn't realize it translates to
bitch in Dutch, but I guess it's

722
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,320
kind of appropriate to being an
animal company.

723
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,440
But yeah, Teeth, you'll find us.
We're on Amazon, we're on Chewy,

724
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120
and we're also on our own
website.

725
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Awesome guys check out teeth.
Thank you so much for your time

726
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200
and your knowledge, your wisdom,
all of the things you have done

727
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,720
Emily, and for your grandmother
for sending you down this pile.

728
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Yeah, Grandma kind of along.
She, she would never imagine

729
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,000
where we are now.
I mean, we are treating seal sea

730
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,880
lions with gingivitis.
Her product that I, you know,

731
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
built for her has been up in the
International Space Station.

732
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Oh wow.
Military mouths like dementia

733
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,160
patients.
Yeah.

734
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,160
Kiddos with orthodontic
appliances.

735
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,640
She's really helping a lot of
people.

736
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,360
That's amazing and I love I love
knowing that story as well.

737
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,000
But thank you so much for
everything that you do and for

738
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,640
providing this product for pets
and people.

739
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,920
And guys, go check it out.
Thank you again, Emily.

740
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Thank you so much.
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741
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,320
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