170. The Raw Revolution - IG Live with Girls Gone Raw

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Oh my gosh, I must have a filter
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Oh well, we've started and I am
going to try to get Lauren in

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here from Girls Con Raw.
I'm really excited for today.

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Well, hello there she is.
OK, so I'm going to try to

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accept.
Let's see if that works.

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Hello, everybody.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
Hello you.

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Know it's funny, before that
live that I did with Doctor

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Katie, I built this whole wall.
And I was like.

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You know what?
So cute.

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It's like I should put a brand
up there somewhere.

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So welcome to my official
Instagram Live backdrop,

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apparently.
It's adorable, I like it.

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It's very aesthetic.
Got my forever dog life there of

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course.
Yes love, love forever dog and

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forever dog life.
I haven't made anything out of

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it yet.
Have you tried?

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I did the lycopene liquors.
It was like a watermelon

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popsicle, OK?
It did not look like the book.

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The book was all acidic and it
was like you could see the

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definite layers in my to have a
very poppin basil plant in the

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backyard.
And I was like, I have a

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watermelon rotting on my
counter.

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Let's see what we can make out
of this.

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And yeah, it was a lot of fun.
It was during that time when it

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was like 107° here.
It was so hot and my poor

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Rottweiler was like melting so.
OK, you're on the East Coast.

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What part?
Ohio, Central Ohio, yes.

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All right.
So for some reason, I mean, we

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haven't had a hot summer like
this in a long time.

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So weather is weird, definitely.
And then we had flooding.

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That's really not normal.
Well, I think a lot of not

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normal stuff is happening this
year.

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Like maybe the entire year, like
the last 10.

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Yeah, I know.
I'm like if any year has turned

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me into a conspiracy theorist,
it's it's been the last couple

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for sure.
Well, Speaking of, we're going

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to talk about feeding our dogs
and cats a species appropriate

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diet today.
And I'm so excited that Lauren

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from Girls Gone Raw Pet Health
is joining me today.

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And you too tell tell everybody
what you do.

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So I don't.
Butcher it.

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Yeah.
So we make dehydrated, locally

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farmed for the most part, pet
treats and chews.

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So it's essentially what you
would see as like the body part

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company.
And that's me.

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I sorry, I'm trying to figure
out my angle here.

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I, I really love of the
relationship that we've made

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with farmers around us.
It's definitely a slow grow.

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Like my quail farmer, we
basically invested in him.

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I think it's called Renewed
Roots LLC.

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He was an electrician and I
believe wanted to get more to

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homesteading for his family.
And he's like, I'll start

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raising quail your way, you
know, the clean, holistic, happy

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quail way.
If we can come up with an

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agreement.
So we work together and got him

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completely set up and now he's
like super invested and growing

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the operation, which is super
cool.

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So all of our coil are raised
specifically for us and it's

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really cool.
Yes, with the just some of the

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relationships I've gotten to
make of the last couple years,

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but everything is dehydrated, so
low temperature for a long time.

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And I have some props here.
We are known to to make some of

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the the weird kind of niche
stuff.

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So we have like whole pray quail
and like I said, that's from my

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really awesome farmer out of
Northeast Ohio.

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He also freeze dries coil chicks
for us because I'm a crazy cat

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lady and I wanted to make sure
that I had something that was

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soft and species appropriate for
my very crazy cats.

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So yeah, we have these little
guys, which I'll go into that a

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little bit later, but I have a
whole spiel kind of about those

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because the baby things make
people sad.

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But basically the whole premise
of my company and my philosophy

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as a person and my background
and how I got here.

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I worked in zoo medicine.
I've worked in, you know,

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biology, anatomy, veterinary
science for my whole life, and

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I've never understood anything
more than the fact that food is

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medicine and enriching the
animal is vital.

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Yes, and that's the basis of
everything for this company's

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enrichment.
And food is medicine.

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Well, and I think those two
really go hand in hand when we

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talk about our pets, especially
that we realize how enriching it

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is for our pets to be feeding
them species appropriate foods.

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And I actually just did a live
maybe two weeks ago with Carol

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from mind Pep player and I I've
been using her platters because

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I had her on the podcast maybe
two years ago.

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So I've had the pliers for maybe
it's a little bit more than two

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years, I'm not sure, but
somewhere around there And just

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the science behind like how we
feed our pets is so fascinating

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to me, not coming from like that
wildlife or even like to biology

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background, but understanding
that like our dogs and cats

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really shouldn't, we shouldn't
see them.

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That's because they have evolved
and just because they look like

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house pets, their brains are
very instinctual still.

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And we know that because they
like to shred and chase and tug

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and hunt cats especially.
And like I have board cats with

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a very small house, but it's
like the best we can do in this

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economy, you know what I mean?
And that's, yeah, enrichment.

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It's it's not just feed the
body, feed the mind too.

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It's taking care of the whole.
Animal, so let's first of all

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jump back first so I'm going to
just OK, we will definitely try

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to get to any questions you guys
have so keep posting them.

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I see that we, we already have a
really good question, but I

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wanted to jump back quickly
because kibble, commercial pet

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food in general, but like the
dry stuff in a bag, the stuff in

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a can, that's actually what's
new for our pets.

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If we look at like the history
of existence of, you know, these

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animals on the planet, even
through domestication for our

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dogs, I think there's argument
that we're still currently

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domesticating cats.
But if we look at dogs, I think

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everybody's pretty well settled
on the fact that we have

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domesticated many breeds of
dogs.

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We've done a done a lot of work
on that species for sure.

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Yeah.
So even through the

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domestication process, dogs
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It's only since, I mean, pet
food in general came about in

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the late 1800s, but we didn't
really see kibble until like

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1950s, roughly there in the
1950s.

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So I mean, we're less than 100
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already seeing as a failed
experiment.

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At least you and I, I think, can
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Cancer rates and those cancer
rates and those cancer rates and

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those cancer rates and the
lighting of the lifespan ever

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like, well, modern medicine.
They should be living longer

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with modern medicine that we
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Well, well, and I think that's a
whole other topic, quite

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honestly, that we are starting
to see humans talk about for us.

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But the the human medical system
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really mirror each other in a
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And I think even worse in our
veterinary medical system

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because the liability isn't
there, you know, they pets are

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still considered property.
So the.

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Still kind of disposable.
Right.

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Dad, I'm so sorry.
You should get a puppy.

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That's not the point.
I'm like, you know, I'm like.

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That's.
Just because I can replace it,

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doesn't, you know, that's not
the point of it.

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Yeah, absolutely.
But really, I if I could get

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like nothing across to anybody
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Kibble is the experiment.
Kibble is the new the new and

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it's not working.
So if we really look back at

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like the history of what our
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eating forever and ever and
ever, it is a prey that they

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would catch in the wild or for
our dogs, especially through the

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domestication process, what was
found in whatever it like if if

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an animal were taken into a
home, scraps that they were fed.

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But if they were wild, they
often would eat from like trash

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piles and whatever excess that
humans threw out, in addition to

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hunting and and whatever they
could find did carcasses in the

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woods, all of that.
So one of the things that I like

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about what you're doing, it's
not just that you are putting

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out a healthy species
appropriate product, but that

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you are really like embracing
the whole, well, I was going to

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say like the whole like actual
nature of how what they would

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find and eat in the wild.
Like we're bringing that back

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onto the plate.
That's.

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Why I like to use the label
specifically species

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appropriate.
It's yeah, it's biologically

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appropriate is what, you know,
is used a lot.

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But it's.
Yeah, yeah.

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Sorry to cut you off, but that's
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Why a label that I really mean,
and especially for cats, too.

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I mean, for some reason, every
time I put cat content up, it it

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flops.
But people forget our cats are

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carnivores.
Obligate.

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That's what they need.
They're also horribly unenriched

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and like, I'm not perfect about
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I have 4 cats.
I do what I can when I can.

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They have a cadio, they have
things like that.

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But our cats are, you know,
massively successful predators

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locked in a box all the time.
So I try to leash train my

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animals.
I have one that's bored, they

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have their caddy and things like
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But yeah, going back to like the
scavenging aspect of it, it's

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such a frustrating topic and
I've I've had to cut myself off

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from trying to argue at the
carnivore versus omnivore.

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And dogs are really that fine
middle line where, yeah, there's

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there's absolutely proof that
they need and can benefit from

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non meat food inclusions.
If you see a, a dog out grazing

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on grass, eating dirt, things
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their own gaps naturally.
That's the scavenger part of

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them.
They are opportunistic

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carnivores.
They're scavenging carnivores.

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And so their diet should be
largely meat, fresh meat, and

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then adding in whatever they can
get, blueberries, greens, dirt,

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hair, things like that.
So we can just tell people, no,

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go ahead.
Well, I'm sorry, I'm just going

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to say you're on the like topic.
I think I I just posted a

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podcast episode with Doctor
Chris Besson this week and I

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think she had one of the best
explanations I've heard of why

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so many people, especially in
big pet food, argue that our

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dogs are omnivores.
And she said it's because it is

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so easy to nutritionally abuse
them because they don't show

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signs for such a long time that
that nutritional abuse in the

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eyes of, oh, we did a 10 month
study, looks like they can be

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omnivores, right?
So like, that's kind of the best

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explanation.
I've I've really heard anybody

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say of why people have this idea
that our dogs are omnivores, but

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they're not.
They're, like you said, like

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scavenger.
Like we do to ourselves as

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humans, right?
We as a species just lightly

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nutritionally abuse ourselves
for our whole lives and it

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doesn't show up as huge disease
most of the time it shows up as

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weight gain, achy joints,
headaches, this chronic low, you

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know, lifetime diseases.
And I like you said of the pet

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and health industry, you know,
human health industry being

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mirrors.
I have never been so fired up in

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my life because we are finally
talking about it.

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And I just know that and and
nobody make this political

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health is not a partisan issue.
Health is something that

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everybody should be thinking
about and the just what do you

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call it?
The corruption within our health

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industry is, is blaring.
And so glad that they're finally

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talking about that because that
directly mirrors into the pet

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health industry.
And you know, I'm a mom and I'm

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a pretty low income mom, you
know, as small business, We're

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not raking it in.
I still have to feed my kid and

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get him music classes and stuff
to make sure that he's enriched.

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It's hard to feed pets on a
budget really good clean food.

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It's hard to feed kids on a
budget really good clean food

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because everything that I look
at has BHABHT food coloring.

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You know, I'm like even just
buying blocks of cheese and then

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you have to shred it because I
want to avoid all the mold

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inhibitors and things like that.
And I'm like, it's why is it so

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hard just to get clean food for
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You have to wade through so much
crap just to get to the good

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stuff.
So that's what I'm like.

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I promise from I'm like, I will
not put anything in any of my

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stuff that you don't need,
period.

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Well, and that's what I actually

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think that our job educating pet
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to get a lot more difficult
before it gets easier.

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Because with the, with the fact
that we as a society for human

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health are really seeing a lot
of pushback and people talking

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about it.
And it looks like we might

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actually get some positive
changes in, in that aspect if

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we're not making the same
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time.
I I fear that the new right

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regulation, the new push for
healthier human food is actually

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going to wind up making pet food
even worse If we're not doing,

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if we're if we're not following
the same path, Yeah, at the same

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time in both industries.
So I think our job may be a

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little harder before it gets
better.

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But I mean, I'm willing to take
that on so that we, because it

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always does like even whatever
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eventually going to see it in
pets.

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So I'm not mad about it.
I just think like we're going to

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have to still.
Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point.

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That's a good point.
I, I think that also, I try to,

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I'm so far into my little bubble
of amazing pet health that

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sometimes I get outside of that.
I'm like, how do you guys not

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see this?
You know what I mean?

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Like it's, it's hard and I have
to kind of humble myself and

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realize that sometimes we have
to go way outside the bubble,

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start from the bottom and
welcome that up.

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And I actually, it's easy in
social media within my bubble to

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start getting kind of edgy.
I mean, people like kind of

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controversial stuff.
And I made a couple reels back

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in the day that everyone's like,
wow, we loved your Instagram.

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And I was kind of getting some
pushback that it was low key

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kibble shame me.
And I'm like, that's not the

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point, but it's easy to put
content out there that your

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followers want to see.
What I want to do is create

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content that's going to
encourage people.

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And when somebody that's been
feeding, you know, Purina Pro

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plan, their whole life comes to
me and they just see like, you

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know, screw Purina, blah, blah,
blah, they're they're going to

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run for it.
But if we put out educational

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and encouraging content, telling
people like, hey, if you're

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adding steamed broccoli to your
dog's kibble, you're doing

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great.
If you're adding water, that's

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the first step.
Let's talk about some other easy

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ways.
You don't have to spend

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$1,000,000 because, yeah, like I
said, it's really hard on my

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budget to feed what I want to
do.

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I'm really lucky that I'm
surrounded by fresh meat

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constantly.
So right now I do the Doctor

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Harvey's.
They get that for their nutrient

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balance and then I'm able to
give them chunks of really

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awesome fresh meat, whole birds,
chunks of rabbit, things like

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that.
But I don't even know I went so

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far down that rabbit hole.
But yeah, I mean, it's we are in

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this amazing bubble of people
that care and love their pets so

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much and are constantly trying
to do better even with it if

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it's with clean treats and
things like that.

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So I don't always get that side
of the customers because I am

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the, you know, whole dead bird
lady.

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But that's why I keep like my
chicken jerky.

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If you are substituting a Milk
Bone for a chicken jerky you're

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doing, you're doing great, and I
really like that the Forever Dog

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book talks about that.
Even if you're substituting your

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processed treats for a simple
whole food treat, you're doing

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great.
Yeah.

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But it is kind of funny that you
bring that up though, because I

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definitely see the same trend.
Like if I post something really

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controversial that people are
either fix up getting like

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literally posting death threats
on my page or yeah, then it's.

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Like you're like, thanks for the
engagement, like right.

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And then the more like we're all
going to be OK, just do a little

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bit at a time like that just
kind of falls flat.

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And it's like how like finding
that balance of I need to be

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able to reach people, but also
like I want exactly what you're

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saying, like be able.
To like the Mr. Rogers of pet

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food content, Like, hey, you're
doing great, your dog's cute,

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have a good day.
Right go.

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Add some meat in there.
Yeah, You're awesome.

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Yeah.
That's what I would like to be.

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That's why I strive to be.
But it's hard because, you know,

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as a small creator, as a small
brand, it's the edgy stuff that

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brings people in.
I mean, yeah, I posted one that

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I was kind of like, I don't
know, I was just talking about

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like, you know, the big pet food
companies or like kind of a

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sassy one.
And like I got like hundreds of

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likes.
And that's obviously that's

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going to help my business grow.
So you have to make sacrifices

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like that sometimes.
And that's why social media is

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kind of toxic.
I was call it my necessary evil.

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Yeah.
Well, OK, so for our dogs, for

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our cats, feeding them, I mean,
obviously I know the answer to

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this, but just for the sake of
this conversation, what does it

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mean to feed a species
appropriate diet?

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In my opinion, as a non medical
professional, but very heavily

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educated on all sides of that,
it's a moderately balanced over

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time meat heavy diet with some
fresh produce and herbs and

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medicinal herbs and things like
that.

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And it really doesn't have to be
that hard.

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I will never, ever, ever tell
somebody to go out and feed, you

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know, chicken thighs every day
or somebody the other day was

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like, I can just feed my dog
like raw hamburger, right?

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I'm like raw hamburger and.
And what?

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Yeah.
And so that's why I like things

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like the Doctor Harvey's because
it's just dried whole food mix,

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at least the raw vibrance, the
Paradigm has some vitamins and

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minerals as well, but it's just
that.

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And then you add in whatever
fresh foods you can get on on

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whatever budget you have.
If it's grass fed bison, heck

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yeah, go for it.
If it's haunted deer, heck yeah.

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But to me, you know, a good diet
for our pets looks like lots of

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fresh meats.
And adding in that, what is it,

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20%?
Remember, I think it, it's

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certainly. 10/10.
Yeah, certainly can vary

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individually.
I really like to look at like,

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animals as individuals.
And the more you listen to

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somebody like Doctor
Billinghurst, right, he will,

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first of all, he'll gross you
out with how much he talks about

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how much dogs eat poop.
It's just constant, right?

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That's like his favorite thing
to talk about, I think.

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And then maybe second is raw
meaty bone.

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So it I think it also depends on
like how much bone content your

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particular animal, especially
your dog really thrives on

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because we can get into like
these.

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That's one of the things that I
don't like about the 801010 is

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that people take it like gospel
and it's no please.

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I use it as like a basic
proportional guideline.

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And yeah, I mean, when I the
name of my companies, actually

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Girls Gone Raw is the story of
my dogs and my cat.

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We're all kind of low key sick.
Yeast infections, chronic UTI's,

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whatever cancer.
Both my dogs had cancer at the

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time and I had just left working
for Champion Pet Foods, which if

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you don't know is origin in the
Canada.

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So I left the world of kibble is
God.

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And I was mortified about the
industry, first of all.

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And we started doing DIY raw.
Oh, and if I tell you I went in

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head first, OK, we we went in
head first.

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I was buying like tongue meat,
heart, kidney, liver, pancreas,

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yadda, yadda, yadda, which was
great.

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But I became like obsessed with
it.

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And I had my little thing, my
calculating, like how much bone

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content is in this bone and this
bone.

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And it's so overwhelming.
And, you know, I feel like

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people expect me to in my
position and being kind of a

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voice in this industry and
living in this industry, they

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expect me to be more exact about
it.

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I don't think I've measured my
dog's food in years.

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I mean, it changes all the time.
What's their exercise level?

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You know, they start to look
skinny.

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We bulk up a little bit, start
adding eggs.

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You, you know, they start to
look a little fat.

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We cut back a little bit and it
varies all the time.

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I switch it up all the time.
Different brands, different

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supplements daily, things like
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That's a little controversial, I
feel like almost, but.

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It it is I I find the same
thing.

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I actually feed my pets
commercial raw just because

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that's where I'm at.
In my life, I don't love

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Steve's.
I I was.

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I'm really just about Steve's
for years.

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And it's easy.
I'm busy human being, yeah.

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Exactly.
I'm I'm I've got other things to

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do and I also have really picky
animals, even my dog really

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picky.
So if I can get a commercial

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food that is ground, like the
bone is ground really fine and

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she's not picking it out because
she will pick it out if it's too

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big.
And if I try to add veggies on

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top, that's not happening.
It's got to be mixed in.

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So like it's just so.
Yeah, most of them.

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Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure.

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And so I find that too.
A lot of people come to me and

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yeah, I, I do all day long have
covalent recipes.

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But I talked to every single
person and I try and I'm like,

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we don't have to do it this way.
Yeah, this isn't the end all be

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all.
Like if this is what makes you

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comfortable, we can do this, but
we don't have to do it this way.

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Balance.
Over time.

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Yeah, yeah, I, I think that's
one of my favorites too.

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And I, I want you to talk more
about like exactly what it is

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you do.
But before we do that, there

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were a couple of questions that
I wanted.

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Yeah, sorry, I like I go off
from rabbit holes.

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Very.
Quickly and.

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Bring myself back and I'm like
how did I love ADHD or something

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like that, OK.
Does feeding too much protein

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have any risks?
Thinking about blood tests and

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urine.
If it can show any abnormalities

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by feeding high protein.
I've got thoughts, do you?

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Yeah, it's really hard to feed
too much protein, especially raw

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meat.
You see really high protein in

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kibble because it's sucked down
all the moisture and everything

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is taken out of it.
It's basically isolated protein.

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Especially if you're getting
chickpea or plant based

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proteins.
In a fresh meaty diet it's

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almost impossible to get too
much protein.

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You'd be massively over feeding
your dog.

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You would notice that before you
notice high protein in, you

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know, values.
Well, and so a couple of things

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I noticed is that our lab value
averages and veterinary medicine

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are based on kibble fed dogs.
So there are some values that

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are raw fed dog might be a
little, might be not always.

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Actually.
Usually not, but can be a little

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bit out of range because those
values.

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Are fun, right?
Blood urea nitrogen.

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Yeah, blood urea nitrogen.
So, so that's always something

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to, to that's, that's why one of
the reasons why you shouldn't

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hold back, like have respectful
conversations with your

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veterinarian, but don't lie to
them.

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Because if you can have those
respectful conversations and let

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them know that, yes, your dog
does eat a fully balanced raw

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food, you know, however you want
to say it, raw food diet.

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They can look at those numbers
and say, Oh, OK, well, I know

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this is just a little bit off
because you feed a raw food

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diet.
Hopefully that's how they see

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it.
That's how they should see it.

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But like you can know that going
in and there are, if you do DIY

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raw feeding, you can do things
like HTMA testing to make sure

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that you know all the minerals
and everything are in balance

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and that you don't need to make
any.

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They're they're informational to
let you know where you might

448
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,800
need to make some adjustments if
you're doing DIY, but.

449
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,920
Yeah, I don't mean DIY yes
definitely follow I wasn't I

450
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520
didn't want to imply with what I
was saying like just feed

451
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,000
everything all the time don't
worry about it.

452
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,200
I also, you have lived this life
for a long time and if you've

453
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,080
been doing it, you know
generally what proportions are

454
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,920
safe and I do follow general
guidelines.

455
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,640
So just to amend that.
I don't want people to cancel.

456
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,200
Yeah, no, I mean, I assume
somebody.

457
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Like you was doing.
That I get it.

458
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:31,520
But also one of the other things
I think about when people ask

459
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,960
about protein specifically is
like urinary kidney health.

460
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,840
And one of the last things we
ever want to do for a dog or a

461
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:48,760
cat, even a dog or a cat that
does have is in some form of

462
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,520
like kidney disease.
We don't want to like that is

463
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,160
the first thing a traditional
veterinarian is going to want to

464
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520
do.
Cut protein.

465
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,960
The problem with that, yeah.
The problem with that is when we

466
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480
cut protein in a carnivore and
whether it's a scavenger

467
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
carnivore or an obligate
carnivore, they have to get

468
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480
those essential amino acids from
somewhere.

469
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040
So they are going to start
pulling it from their own muscle

470
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,320
mass.
So you're going to start seeing

471
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,320
muscle wasting and your pet may
actually suffer the effects of

472
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,240
muscle wasting long before they
would have ever suffered the

473
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,800
effects of kidney disease just
because you have decreased the

474
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,400
protein.
So there are other things we can

475
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,160
do to decrease like phosphorus
binders, because that's

476
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000
ultimately what the goal is, is
to decrease the phosphorus.

477
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,160
So we can do that in various
ways.

478
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440
Certain foods, I can't think of
any at the top of my head.

479
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920
I would send people toward
Doctor Judy Morgan's kidney

480
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,560
diet.
I had a dog with kidney disease

481
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,200
and she lived with it for a long
time and we pretty much didn't

482
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,800
change too much.
We went full raw.

483
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,040
And my first tip to people, I'm
like, talk to your doctor.

484
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Maybe find a doctor that's more
holistic because you know your

485
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,360
your Western doctors are going
to give you those banded fix.

486
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,520
They're going to put you on a
specialized prescription diet,

487
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:19,040
which I have big feelings about,
but it's not, Yeah, it's just a

488
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Band-Aid fix.
It get those.

489
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,400
Chickpea proteins, the plant
proteins out of those, because

490
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
that was really hard on their
kidneys, yeah.

491
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960
It is well and like you were
just saying you made the switch

492
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,520
completely to raw and a lot of
times, especially if it's like a

493
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,880
stage one, maybe stage 2, just
switching from eating a dry food

494
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,640
diet all the time to eating a
high moisture diet all the time

495
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
is going to make a huge
difference in any of those like

496
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,600
urinary.
As soon as the word kidney or

497
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,480
urinary gets into anything.
Like I have a cat that has

498
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000
fluted she basically stress or
just when she's having a bad day

499
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,800
she's blind.
So everything kind of stresses

500
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,400
her out blindish and she'll
start peeing blood and it's just

501
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,440
kind of like something like I
tried the the prescription food

502
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,240
at first because I felt horrible
for her.

503
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,680
It was like a move plus COVID
plus a baby stacked on top of

504
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,320
each other that spurred it all.
And now it just comes up every

505
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,920
now and the if the water bowls
dry for a day, she's Yeah.

506
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,080
So the only thing that's helped
me completely manage that and

507
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,000
stop it from progressing is
well, I wouldn't say the only

508
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,480
because I use a lot of the crazy
cat ladies supplements

509
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,920
proactively for her.
I use their urinary pH and their

510
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,440
gosh, what's the one with
enzymes?

511
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,600
I think catalyst.
Yeah, but is going to 100% raw

512
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,200
diet for her.
Even when I was trying to budget

513
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,320
myself.
And we do at the worst, a soaked

514
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960
like Farmina with freeze dried
and we make it into like, you

515
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,560
know, complete mushy soup
basically and, and completely

516
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480
cut all that went entirely to
the Steve's quest.

517
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,960
And I love that she's very, I
can like really see it coming

518
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720
sometimes.
It's usually severe things that

519
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
set it off.
And then I just start putting in

520
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,320
CBD urinary pH and she, she's
back to normal in like a day.

521
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,360
But it's yeah, moisture,
moisture, moisture.

522
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,600
And cut those harder to process
proteins, which you're going to

523
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,960
get in almost any kibble, grain
free, grain inclusive.

524
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,600
It's all kibble.
OK, Lauren, any plans to on

525
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,840
getting your product in stores
in Florida specifically Orlando

526
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,280
I?
Have a couple stores in Florida.

527
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
I can't think of them off the
top of my head, but what I

528
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,640
always tell people is if you
want my stuff, a lot of times if

529
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
you tell your local stores that
there's demand for it, they can

530
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,440
reach out to me and look at my
stuff and start stocking it.

531
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040
So if you reach out to me, I can
send you like my wholesale

532
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,880
information or you can have them
just reach out to me and we can

533
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,520
get them set up.
They can at least look around.

534
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,360
And then like I said, a lot of
times if independent stores know

535
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,560
that there's demand, they might
just not have heard of me or

536
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,640
send me your local store and
I'll reach out to them, one of

537
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
the two.
But yeah, definitely, I do a ton

538
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,960
of wholesale and there's a
million of them.

539
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680
So a lot of times we just
haven't heard of each other.

540
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,080
But yeah, for sure, Diane says.
I let my cat have some cooked

541
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,840
chicken skin today.
I hope that was OK.

542
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,680
I don't love cooked fats, but I
mean, every once in a while I

543
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,120
don't.
As long as they don't have any

544
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320
pre-existing, yeah.
My cats a lot of butter.

545
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Not usually intentionally,
usually they RIP it out of the

546
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,560
cabinet really.
But God, they're monsters.

547
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,760
I wish I had Darwin in here.
He's like, oh, he's if you see

548
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
me cringing while I'm talking
about my cats, I'm thinking

549
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,360
about him.
I love him so much.

550
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,840
But he was my boyfriend's
family's outdoor cat.

551
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
My boyfriend had found him as
like, I don't know, like 1/2

552
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,720
dead kitten hit by a car sitting
under a rain gutter, just like,

553
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,640
and then they took him and he's
an indoor outdoor cat, which you

554
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
know, it's a pretty, it's a
pretty safe area.

555
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,480
They have a farm.
And he disappeared last year for

556
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680
like 2 weeks or something like
that around Thanksgiving.

557
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
And I was like, it's coyote
season Camden.

558
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Like, I think you need to.
He's like, oh, he'll come back.

559
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,400
He'll come back.
And I was like, I was being

560
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
negative about it.
And it's we live in a very

561
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,360
pretty rural area.
So anyway, Long story short,

562
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,800
somebody found him like 4 cities
over with a broken leg under a

563
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
car and then brought him over to
the other side of the state

564
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280
where she lived.
And whatever we got him treated

565
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,680
and he was this like perfect
little Angel snuggly, like so

566
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800
sweet.
I was like, we're keeping this

567
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,920
cat like he's not going back
outside.

568
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080
He's been hit by a car like at
least two times.

569
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,680
You know, he's he's running down
his lives and he is the most

570
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,440
he's in the tennis.
I mean, he can open cabinets.

571
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,000
He today broke two of my cups
just knocked him off the counter

572
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,920
because he was bored.
I mean, he'll do backflips off

573
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,719
you in the middle of the night.
He steals everything that even

574
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440
once smelled like food.
He broke into a thing of like

575
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520
Nesquik powder I left on the
counter made by some hot

576
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,639
chocolate.
I don't know, just he drags it

577
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,159
under the under the bed too.
So I found like a whole horde

578
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,880
one time, like a like a dragon
den of just food trash, any kind

579
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560
of basting brush.
He loves those.

580
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,560
I always eats the bristles.
But yeah, he'll break into the

581
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320
the cabinets and eat an entire
stick of like Kerry gold butter.

582
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,480
And I'm like, God, that's like 6
bucks a stick.

583
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,239
I'm going to get him in here.
He's so funny.

584
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,320
He's just like this looks like a
Russian blue, but it's probably

585
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,679
just a mutt, you know?
But he's so nice.

586
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,199
Oh, my God.
Like his mom's always.

587
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,960
Like I can take him back.
I'll keep him inside.

588
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,920
And look, I can't.
I just love him too much.

589
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480
He's too amazing.
Yeah, too amazing.

590
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,240
But he's absolutely the bait of
my existence.

591
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Does muscle wasting stop?
You have to put work.

592
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,600
There.
Yeah, theoretically, yeah, If

593
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,280
you can, If you can, if you can
get the animal to eat

594
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,720
appropriately, like the right
balance.

595
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,920
I would say that's definitely a
case by case.

596
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Based organs, yeah, I think it's
going to depend on.

597
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,360
How that causes?
Yeah, How bad off it is and how

598
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,720
long it's been going on.
And yeah, I think that's that's

599
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,880
a, that's a tough one.
You have to.

600
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,960
It's definitely something
because I have senior dogs

601
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
galore and I had one that came
to me.

602
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,640
She's actually by my feet right
now, sunshine.

603
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,520
She came to me very like her
hips were like tiny, completely

604
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,360
muscle wasted, couldn't get
herself over just a little like

605
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,960
hop up into the door when I got
her and was just sick mange

606
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,280
everything like that.
I think she'd been eating trash

607
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,960
pretty much is how she wasn't
like emaciated because now she

608
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,680
eats like any trash.
And, and it took a while, but

609
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,160
yeah, I went full raw with her
pretty much right away and it

610
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,360
took a while, but then her
muscles, yeah, came back.

611
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,960
And so it depends on what the
cause is.

612
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,760
Is it something more, what's the
term idiopathic?

613
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Is it a neurological thing or is
it a nutritional deficiency,

614
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,800
which I would almost call like
protein leaching from like an

615
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,280
inappropriate diet?
I'd call that more like a

616
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920
nutritional issue.
And it's like taurine, too.

617
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,240
You can supplement proactively
and reverse some of the damage

618
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,720
done by, you know, enlarged
tart.

619
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,680
Yeah, yeah.
Because I I also think it even

620
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,880
if it is nutritional and you try
to reverse it nutritionally, you

621
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:57,560
also have that hurdle of your,
the muscle isn't necessarily

622
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,560
going to rebuild unless there's
a reason to.

623
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,720
So if they're already so that
off that they're like energy

624
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,960
level is really low.
If they're not even, they're not

625
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,720
getting any exercise if it's
going to be difficult to get

626
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,880
exercise.
Is the one I'm thinking of a lot

627
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:19,120
of people Myos is a supplement
of myos.

628
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:25,560
A lot of my dog sport people use
that for muscle building and I

629
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,800
believe that it was actually
recommended to me for senior

630
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,000
dogs because we had a little bit
of muscle wasting.

631
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,520
She was like 17 and my vet
recommended, you know, we could

632
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,480
do myos and for sunshine as well
myos.

633
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:45,000
Yeah, I have heard of that.
Muscle Formula supplement and

634
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,400
it's, I think it's a really cool
supplement because a lot of

635
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,840
people in our industry love it.
Yeah, green lip mussels.

636
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Yeah, yeah, I've heard of this.
I have never used it.

637
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,640
I mean, I haven't really had a
reason to use it, but I have

638
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,360
heard of it and I've heard good
things.

639
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,360
Yeah, yeah.
So if you have a dog with muscle

640
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,000
wasting, look into that.
Talk to you.

641
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
If you have a holistic vet, talk
to them about it.

642
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,800
And I like to tell people too,
it's really hard to find good

643
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,160
holistic vets in most areas.
Honestly, I lucked out.

644
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,000
I moved to Columbus and
immediate was like, thank God I

645
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,360
moved closer to my holistic vet
that I've been driving hours

646
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,760
for.
And having a good integrative

647
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,600
vet on your team is game
changer, especially as your pet

648
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,320
comes into senior age, because
it's really easy to do what they

649
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,480
do to our seniors and just pump
them full of drugs to Band-Aid

650
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,800
patch issues.
And it it's really rough on

651
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,720
their bodies.
You know, there needs to be a

652
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,200
point where we say we're going
to do this just holistically and

653
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,520
then, you know, focus on health
span rather than lifespan.

654
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000
And yeah, I have 212 year old
dogs.

655
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,880
My last been passed from cancer
at and she was 14, but she had

656
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,240
cancer since she was 7, did
everything holistically.

657
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,040
And then our one before that,
who was the other girl and girls

658
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,720
gone raw, diagnosed with cancer
I think around six or seven and

659
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:13,360
then passed away at 17.
Well, they had.

660
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,720
So we like our old girls around
here loud too, which it was.

661
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,000
It was pretty impressive.
It's hard to be mad about that.

662
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,440
Yeah, they got you got a lot of
good, good life out of them with

663
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,040
beans as you made Lola Blue the
Danes as the butter is popular

664
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,160
with their cats too.
Yeah.

665
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,200
And even Doctor Katie, when I
was talking to her, was like,

666
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,480
give them butter.
Do you have butter, ghee,

667
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,800
coconut oil, things like that?
Yeah, that's another thing.

668
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,360
I think that's changing with the
industries we're getting into.

669
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000
The people that are talking
about butter being good,

670
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,520
cholesterol being OK, you know,
raw milk, we're getting back

671
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,720
into that, which is super cool.
Yeah.

672
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,080
So I think generally speaking,
we have two different buckets.

673
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,800
We have people who are looking
to do the best they can for

674
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,760
their pets from the start from,
you know, there's nothing going

675
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,160
on.
Everything's great.

676
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,840
They just.
Learn more and want to do

677
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,440
better.
And then we have the other

678
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,520
bucket where it's like people
are frantic because they're

679
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,840
like, I need to know everything
right now because my dog or my

680
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,680
cat.
Is sick, right?

681
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Yeah, and I've been in both of
those buckets.

682
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,920
Yeah, yeah, same and the.
Laver is hard.

683
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,080
It is.
It's really.

684
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Frantic.
Really, really hard to kind of

685
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,640
wind yourself down and realize
that you are not going to learn

686
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:47,000
everything all at once and to
try to pinpoint where to start.

687
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:54,400
And for me, the, the some of the
most frustrating things are when

688
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,520
because people have we have been
conditioned for decades.

689
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,920
So we have this mindset of what
can I give my dog for X, right?

690
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,320
So even though they're like, I
want to do everything

691
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,720
holistically now, they still
have the mindset of what's up,

692
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,440
what holistic supplement can I
give you this instead?

693
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,640
And it doesn't, in my opinion,
it doesn't work that way.

694
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,280
We always have to start.
With food.

695
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:25,720
And treats or chews are really,
really good, like gateway drug,

696
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,320
but I'm going to call this a
gateway drug.

697
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Oh, I said this the other day.
And so now it's my thing, it's

698
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
my term.
I'm going to forever say this

699
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,400
now.
Our pets trademark.

700
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,720
Yeah, our pets are pet food
injured.

701
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,680
They are pet food injured even
even a dog or a cat that is like

702
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:53,520
born today and raised from the
get go holistically, they still

703
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,440
have the genetics of the past
few generations to overcome.

704
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,920
So our pets, in my opinion are
pet food injured and we have a

705
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,760
lot to overcome with that and it
is always a good idea to start

706
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,280
with the food.
So with that, I would love for

707
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,760
you to tell me like some of the
offerings that you have.

708
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,360
And I know you wanted to talk a
little bit more about like some

709
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,000
of the things you were doing for
cats that were different and

710
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,960
softer.
And so tell me about your.

711
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Products.
So I always tell people to one

712
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,120
of my first things I meant to
say this earlier is it is a fact

713
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,000
that modern pet food, the
nutritional balance of it was

714
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,360
based off of the nutritional
balance of a prey animal.

715
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,600
The fiber, the fat, the protein,
the blah, blah, blah, everything

716
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,720
pretty much except for moisture,
which we already know is an

717
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,000
issue in pet food, but it is
what it is.

718
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,360
So feeding whole prey is pretty
much the most perfect package

719
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,200
you can get.
And like I said, you know,

720
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,240
balance over time.
No pet food also is perfect.

721
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,400
I always tell people like don't
pick a food and only feed that

722
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,280
ever.
No food ever will cover all of

723
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,600
the gaps.
Your dog could process that

724
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,000
vitamin C differently than it
processes the vitamin C in a

725
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,160
different food, things like
that.

726
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:16,200
So we do a lot of whole and I
like to do kind of different

727
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,320
levels of it because not
everyone's willing to buy a dead

728
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,080
bird for their dog, you know
what I mean?

729
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,000
We have, I'd say like the whole
prey quail is one of the most

730
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,080
extreme.
We have the whole freeze dried

731
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,720
chicks like I already showed you
guys.

732
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Really popular one is whole
rabbit heads.

733
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,240
So this has the brain, the eyes
and all sorts of really cool

734
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:44,480
secreting organs.
Again, not everyone's cup of tea

735
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,240
really cool things about it
though, because there's a lot in

736
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,440
the brain and the thyroid and
the pineal gland and all of that

737
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,000
that are dogs don't get
naturally that they completely

738
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,200
can benefit from.
I mean, look at what's the, the

739
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,160
company I was seeing out like
Primal Queen, they're really

740
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640
pushing organ meats on people
now.

741
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,720
And people are like, oh, hold
on, that just changed my whole

742
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280
hormonal balance.
And like, yeah, yeah, there's a

743
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,680
lot of pieces that we're
missing.

744
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,480
I tried.
I actually tried primal Queen

745
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,960
once but I have been taking
desiccated bovine like female

746
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,360
reproductive organs for a couple
of years and it's made a big

747
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,120
difference.
Yeah, and standard process

748
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,120
supplements are amazing like
that.

749
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,960
If you read the ingredients,
sometimes I'm like what it says

750
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,800
placenta, you know, it has like
all of these crazy things, but

751
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:44,280
to me there's so many amazing
vitamins and minerals and just

752
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,360
we're going to call them like,
you know, code Co nutrients and

753
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,320
things that if you have this and
this at the same time, it does

754
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,440
amazing things.
But if you only have this or if

755
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,880
you only have that, they just
kind of fall flat.

756
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,880
So when you feed the body as it
was meant to be, you gain a lot

757
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,400
from that.
And that really is, I think,

758
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,200
like feeding the organ meat and
all of that is medicine, you

759
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,800
know, coming from me.
I don't think I've eaten an

760
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,160
organ meat in my life.
I need to, but I was raised a

761
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,360
picky kid.
I'm I'm recovering.

762
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Acceptance is the first step of
something.

763
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,280
So, so like I said, I have
levels, I have like the body

764
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,880
parts and this obviously to me,
I love that feed lots of

765
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,920
moisture to it.
And then I have like my

766
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,800
quartered rabbit frame.
I love this.

767
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,920
For me, this is the easiest way.
I literally took a whole meaty

768
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,520
rabbit and I have a video
actually on my Instagram that I

769
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,280
did.
It was very edgy for me because

770
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,040
I was like, nobody wants to see
these.

771
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,720
It's what I do is honestly
disgusting.

772
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,160
My, you know, my shoes are all
stained with rabbit blood.

773
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,960
And I was over at what Super
Zoo?

774
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,280
And you all were like, show us
the process videos.

775
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,400
And I was like, all right, I'll
do it.

776
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,320
So I went home and I filmed that
and people loved it.

777
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,240
I didn't get one angry comment.
I was really proud.

778
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,400
But we take a whole rabbit frame
and then we separate it into

779
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,880
four pieces.
We have the pelvis, the waist

780
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,520
with the kidneys and then two
rib sections.

781
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,640
And then they have like the
lungs, a chunk of liver on both

782
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:22,320
sides, and then the heart and
add that even just onto some

783
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,600
kibble.
I use that.

784
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,440
And then I'll feed something
like a greens mix with it.

785
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,760
And there's so much nutrition in
that.

786
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,640
And having all of those natural
fats and things like that.

787
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,000
I will never tell you side note
that anything of mine is better

788
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,680
than feeding the raw version of
it.

789
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,960
And I stand by that.
Raw liver is not even comparable

790
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,560
to dried liver.
Raw eggs are not comparable to

791
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,320
dried eggs.
But this is the best that a lot

792
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,440
of people can do and it's easier
to get.

793
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,360
It's more accessible.
I don't always want to have a

794
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,560
thing of raw liver in my fridge.
It's stinky.

795
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880
It's a really gross texture.
I'm glad I'm.

796
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,960
Not the only one.
It oxidizes really fast.

797
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,440
I think it's the iron in it.
And we used to make this big,

798
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,520
big vats of raw chicken grind,
and we do a lot of chicken liver

799
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,520
in it.
And then, I mean, within 20

800
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,680
minutes, it's green and smells
like farts.

801
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,760
And that's like the Oxide.
Yeah.

802
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,240
It's not my favorite, but then I
also have my Franken buddies.

803
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360
We're backwards here, but this
is Frank and Bunny.

804
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
And then I also have the Frank
and duck.

805
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,080
And there's something known as
the Frank and diet, which is

806
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,440
kind of a part of prey model
feeding, which would be like,

807
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,800
you know, feeding the whole
animal and that's feeding like

808
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,040
pieces and parts.
So this has a head, 2 legs, 2

809
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,480
feet, a tail, and a whole prey
rabbit sausage.

810
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,920
And I'll pull one of those
sausages out.

811
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,160
I have it right here.
These are the whole prey rabbit

812
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,800
sausage and these are my
absolute most popular product

813
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,640
right now.
I think aside from the like

814
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,640
heads and rolls, this is an
entire rabbit ground into a fine

815
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
sausage.
We have some batches kind of

816
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,440
making their way in that have
the hide ground in as well, and

817
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,400
we're kind of playing with that
formula, but this is essentially

818
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,240
an entire rabbit with that
heart, liver, kidney, heart,

819
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,200
liver, lungs, kidneys.
What am I forgetting?

820
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,800
That might be it, but.
It's everything but the head,

821
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,560
right?
Is everything is everything but

822
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,040
the heads, feet and intestines.
So we do move the the intestines

823
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,440
for just like sanitary reasons,
but it keeps a lot of those

824
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120
vital organs.
So that's the whole rabbit meat.

825
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Like if you were to buy straight
from a farmer, it would just

826
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,040
stick in the grinder.
So this is a really awesome

827
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,640
product.
Pets really gravitate towards

828
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,960
it.
You can tell because it has a

829
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,520
lot of that organ meat and it's
a really rich, but then it's a

830
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,400
really good way to get some of
that bone content into animals

831
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,560
that don't like to chew.
Like I think you said, your dog

832
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,560
will pick out chunks of bone.
A lot of dogs won't chew.

833
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,120
My cats won't chew bones except
for one of them that likes the

834
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,440
quail.
And you can kind of see it's a

835
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,840
really cool texture.
It's really crunchy and you

836
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,400
could even kind of smash it like
you're smashing like Oreo

837
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,120
cookies, whatever, and rehydrate
on top of food.

838
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,640
I use this one.
We're traveling to kind of

839
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,280
supplement foods and things like
that.

840
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,880
So these are kind of the, yeah,
the levels of whole prey.

841
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,200
And I will say I am actively
working on a whole prey with

842
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,920
feathers, quail grind, and I
want to add hopefully some

843
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,160
functional foods into that as
well.

844
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,080
I'm talking to a mushroom
supplier around us and some cool

845
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,400
things like that.
But I have to get through the

846
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,920
holiday season.
The holiday season always smacks

847
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,160
me.
And then I get to January, I'm

848
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,080
like, yay.
And that's when wholesale for

849
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:56,880
somebody picks back up and I'm
like, OK, so I know Elf on my

850
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,280
Shelf.
I'm expected to do with Elf on

851
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,800
my Shelf.
And I'm like, honey, Mommy needs

852
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,640
to.
Yeah, I'm just kidding.

853
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,840
I love her.
You're inviting Faye into your

854
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,840
home.
That's not a good thing.

855
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,320
I feel weird about him.
I'm like, why is he rummaging

856
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,160
around?
Yeah, everything, Remy says.

857
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,720
How can we get your you stocked
in our stores?

858
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,880
She must have recently joined
but.

859
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,560
Shoot me a message and I can
send you either a link through

860
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,520
Instagram that'll go towards it,
or if you just go to

861
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,400
girlsgonerawpet.com, there's a
wholesale tab.

862
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400
Fill out the form on the top and
I'm sending out wholesale

863
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,600
emails.
Actually today you just shop

864
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,320
online with it like normal.
I just have to get you a

865
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,320
password and the information.
Awesome.

866
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Yeah, I think our cats
especially I, I find that

867
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,080
there's one company in
particular of food that I feed

868
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,880
that my dog loves it.
But I actually find that my cats

869
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,960
like it even more because it
does have a much higher organ

870
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,200
content than most commercial raw
foods and more of like a prey.

871
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,120
Model.
Well, it's even more than that.

872
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Like it's a lot of heart, like a
lot of heart and liver and

873
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,400
kidney is significantly more
than 5% and.

874
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Those where a lot of people
think of it as an organ meat,

875
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,360
sorry to cut you off, Think of
it as an organ meat, but it's a

876
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,240
muscle.
But it's just one of those

877
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,120
amazing muscles.
It is because it has like the

878
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,760
nutrition of organ but is
technically right.

879
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,760
Technically a muscle, but it has
way more than 5% kidney, way

880
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,640
more than 5% liver.
And you know, I think that's

881
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,160
scary for a lot of people that
are already feeding a raw food

882
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,920
diet.
They're like, Oh no, no, no, it

883
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000
has to be 5%.
My cats especially are just

884
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,560
like, they freaking love it.
They're scything on it.

885
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:02,560
And I mean, granted, for me it's
anecdotal, but there are lots of

886
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,720
people.
Isn't this is fairly popular in

887
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:09,080
our world and.
You'll have to tell me what it

888
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,000
is.
I'd love to try it because my

889
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,440
cats are like picky but not
picky.

890
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,000
It's more texture.
And I like, I got to the point

891
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,040
where like when I was living
with my parents, we had like 8

892
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,520
cats between US and all of them
like the Steve's Quest, which is

893
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,160
their prey model formula.
And I was like, we're sticking

894
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,600
with it.
That's it.

895
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Yeah.
I mean, they like my cats like

896
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,880
Steve's, they like Small Batch,
but the green juju they are

897
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,680
just.
Oh yeah, that's just going to

898
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,800
say green juju.
I was wondering if that's what

899
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,280
it was.
Yeah, so.

900
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,360
It's something that I just I
really play with a lot.

901
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,440
Even even when I balance for
like an individual recipes for

902
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,920
like individual dogs, I will if
they're healthy, I.

903
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,560
Will.
Test out more than 5% liver

904
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,480
because I'm like, here you go,
let's see how we do.

905
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,680
It and it's something you can
play with.

906
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Yeah.
And it's like it doesn't have to

907
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,760
be Yeah, it can be something you
kind of figure out.

908
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,800
Like I said you have every
single animal is different.

909
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,400
You can't feed 1 the same and
expect it to be the same.

910
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Like Scarlett if you probably
counted the calories are

911
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,440
Rottweiler.
If you counted the calories of

912
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:31,720
what I got her, it would be so
far from what the AFCO I guess

913
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,560
requirements and stuff are, but
she's thriving.

914
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,600
She lost like 40 lbs when I came
into her life as like a 11.

915
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,920
I think she just turned 12 year
old Rottweiler and she's like a

916
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,480
puppy sprinting around her
arthritis episodes completely

917
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,280
dropped off.
And like, yeah, Sunshine was

918
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,320
super sick when I got her.
And their, yeah, their diets

919
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,360
are, if I fed them What it was
recommended to give their age

920
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,720
and weight and everything, they
would be balloons.

921
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:06,480
Yeah, it was my lab.
My lab was a 45 LB, like, lean

922
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,280
machine.
She got like 1/2 of a Steve's

923
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Patty as a meal and was, yeah,
an absolute meal, meal machine.

924
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
Yeah.
And everyone's like, wow, she's

925
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,880
so skinny.
Adam Rottweiler supposed to look

926
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,880
like a cinder.
Blah.

927
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,840
Yeah, yeah, there's, there are a
lot of we, we've kind of made a

928
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,600
lot of things normal for our
pets that really shouldn't be

929
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,840
and then stigmatized things that
should be normal like the trees

930
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,680
that you made.
I, I branded myself a

931
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:53,160
professional dog body shamer and
it's, it's not, I'm not sure I'd

932
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,680
say it's my best trait, but
honestly, like people need to

933
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,840
hear it because it just it, I'm
just like, you are completely in

934
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,800
control of that.
I've gotten nicer about it.

935
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,560
I figured out better ways to.
Work.

936
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Yeah, it really is.
One of the best things we can do

937
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:20,720
for the health and lifespans of
our pets is to bring them back

938
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,720
to a normal weight.
And so many of us don't know

939
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:33,520
what that even looks like,
because we as humans barely know

940
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,040
what it looks like for us
anymore.

941
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody said they'd like to see

942
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,080
my pets.
I'm trying to get Sunshine out,

943
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,320
but she is.
I got old ladies.

944
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,240
They're snoring behind me,
Scarlet.

945
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,760
I can't.
My cats are.

946
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,720
I'll show you my doggy.
You say hi.

947
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,960
There's Kimberly.
The sweater queen herself.

948
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,240
Hi, Kimberly.
I love those ears.

949
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,000
This is Sunshine.
We're dealing with some

950
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,680
allergies right now, and she's
struggling a little bit.

951
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,160
Oh.
No environmental deep.

952
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:18,040
Is I think it was brought on by
flea.

953
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,200
We definitely found a couple.
I think they're just like living

954
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,840
in our yard for some reason.
So we've gone nuts on that.

955
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,760
And I've always done all of the
same holistic flea stuff my

956
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,560
whole life and it's just not
cutting it here since I moved to

957
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,200
this house and it just sent her
down a spiral.

958
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,720
So now she stinks, but we're
doing a lot of different stuff

959
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,680
to try.
And it's definitely like, I

960
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:52,400
understand now after her why
people get pushed to Apoquel

961
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,080
Because I'm like, there was one
point where she was like covered

962
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,960
in hives after God knows what.
And as soon as I think it gets

963
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,560
better than it gets worse.
And then chewing holes in

964
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,800
herself and I'm like, I'm doing
everything right.

965
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,560
I'm doing everything I do.
You know what I mean?

966
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,280
It's frustrating.
But when I got her, she had like

967
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,080
no hair.
She was greasy, sting, teeth

968
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,520
rotting out of her mouth like
little.

969
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,000
And I was like, oh, I need that
one.

970
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,720
Yeah, I foster failed her.
She was my 25th foster dog,

971
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,400
26th.
Maybe she's trying to steal the

972
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,680
treats on her.
And yeah, I foster failed her.

973
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,920
She's the absolute light of my
life.

974
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,440
She's adorable.
She goes everywhere with me and

975
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,400
then Scarlett snore down here.
Scarlett.

976
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Yeah.
And I have 4 cats.

977
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Would not.
I don't know, I'd recommend

978
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
having 4 cats.
Scarlett, Good morning.

979
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,120
Sorry I got a little off top in
here.

980
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,520
That's OK.
Yeah, so I think, you know,

981
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,560
whole prey is amazed.
I I very much appreciate that

982
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,960
you said that, you know, raw
would be even better because we

983
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,720
got the moisture right where
which is in itself like a Co

984
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:16,440
nutrient to to the food and but
doing the dehydrated is also

985
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,880
like incredible, an incredible
addition.

986
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,520
It can also be anything easier
for travel, which you may

987
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:33,480
mention and training for sure if
if you want to use it that way

988
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,360
and just adding enrichment to
your dog's bowl Meal

989
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,560
replacements.
I think you also mentioned that

990
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,280
too.
So you know, we often talk about

991
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,200
doing like raw meaty bones for
meal replacements, but doing

992
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,080
whole prey is is also a great
way to do meal replacements.

993
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,840
Because that feels more gaps
too.

994
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,280
And yeah, for sourcing reasons,
it's the the availability of

995
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,680
having air dried or freeze dried
meaty bones and, and whole

996
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,000
treats like that is amazing
because like I'm lucky to live

997
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,240
in an area that has a lot of
cool farmers.

998
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,200
I could go out and buy a beef
liver and a rabbit tomorrow if I

999
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,680
wanted to.
But I've tried, I've tried the

1000
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,400
actual whole prey feeding before
and, and ironically, I didn't

1001
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,400
have the stomach for it.
My dog also was like, what do I

1002
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,880
do with it?
Yeah, I love the idea of that.

1003
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:33,040
But we need to be realistic.
And yeah, and like you said

1004
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,560
right in the beginning, it's
like a gateway drug.

1005
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,040
I always tell people that I'm
like, they're like, why do you

1006
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,160
do like chicken jerky?
Like you have so many more

1007
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,320
exciting things.
I'm like, it is.

1008
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,880
It's a mind opener.
They come in, they see chicken

1009
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,880
jerky.
Oh, my dog loves chicken jerky.

1010
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,760
Oh, like were you feeding before
we talked about the recall the,

1011
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,800
you know, possibly China sourced
chicken that had the I can't

1012
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
mella melamine.
Yeah.

1013
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,800
So let me talk about that.
And then, you know, we're able

1014
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,200
to then it gets into food and
oh, they have chronic yeast

1015
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,880
like, oh, I have some kefir back
here.

1016
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Have you ever thought about
addressing the gut and then

1017
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,240
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then, you know, maybe next

1018
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,920
time they try a chicken foot and
then next time after that they

1019
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,920
try a duck head.
And then after that they're

1020
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,080
like, my dog loved it.
We're going to go for a rabbit

1021
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,680
roll.
You know what I mean?

1022
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,400
And it is kind of like I, I tend
to grade my farmers market

1023
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,080
booths from like PG, PG-13 and
Radar.

1024
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,680
So I have like my jerkies and
the bone broth and egg powder.

1025
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,600
And in the middle is like rabbit
sticks and the quartered rabbit

1026
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Franken bunnies.
And then the end is like the

1027
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,440
hairy cow ears that are like the
size of my head.

1028
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,880
And I was just talking to Kiwis
distinguished goods yesterday.

1029
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,600
She's like, Oh my God, your beef
years are huge.

1030
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,800
I'm like, they're huge.
Like have you have you seen

1031
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Carol right now?
I'm like I said, look up that

1032
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,480
was thick Ohio grown cows.
Apparently the difference is

1033
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,200
ours.
I'm completely I sold out of

1034
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,760
them right now, but the
difference on ours, we have this

1035
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:14,880
base that's like this thick
around and it's definitely just

1036
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,080
happened.
I think it I just did it.

1037
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Oh, there like there we go.
Oh, technology.

1038
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320
But yeah, like I like to grade
it.

1039
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,480
And then people come in they're
like and like go that way, that

1040
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,560
way.
Yeah, blinders like, you know,

1041
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,520
cuz it does scare some people.
But every now and then I'll

1042
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,720
bring the whole quail or the
chicks to a market.

1043
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,720
And it's fun seeing people.
They're like, that's disgusting.

1044
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,960
I'll take five of them.
I'm like my guy, right.

1045
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,520
And it's funny.
I love having those

1046
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,880
conversations.
That really is what drives me

1047
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,560
because in the economy, it's
hard for moms to have a career

1048
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,160
that also fulfills them.
And that's not a blanket

1049
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,680
statement.
That's just kind of a general

1050
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,080
statement.
A lot of times they're pushed

1051
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:10,560
into whatever role works with
school schedules and then kids

1052
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,960
get sick sometimes or bite a kid
at school and need to be picked

1053
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,640
up or, you know, every now and
then I want I want the

1054
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,040
flexibility to take my son to
the zoo for an entire day in the

1055
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,280
middle of the week.
And I don't have to ask for

1056
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,440
permission to do that.
So I'm super lucky that I have

1057
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,520
that family flexibility and I
get to talk to people every day

1058
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,040
and do something that fulfills
me and then go to super zoo and

1059
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,440
meet Karen Becker and Rodney
Habib and I'm like sweating.

1060
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,680
And you know, I admired you and
watched your stuff for so many

1061
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,120
years.
So I'm like, I'm in such a cool

1062
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,240
spot right now that I feel like
I'm actually making a bit of a

1063
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,920
difference in the world.
For sure.

1064
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,160
A lot of us get to do that.
Well, and that reminded me

1065
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,280
because I, I intended to say it
earlier on and I, I didn't, but

1066
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,960
I think we, I got down the like
conspiracy rabbit hole in my

1067
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:07,080
head, But you know, the idea of
even feeding commercial foods to

1068
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,000
our pets.
I think talking about moms,

1069
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,520
that's, but the marketing that
they did to women, especially

1070
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:24,080
around the like 50s and on was
very much, and, and this is

1071
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,400
documented.
This isn't a conspiracy, but

1072
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,560
very much they wanted women in
the workplace so that they're

1073
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,840
getting 2 taxable incomes in
every household.

1074
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,920
And so they create things to
market to women to say, look,

1075
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,120
you can, you can go out here and
earn money so we can collect

1076
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,680
taxes from you.
And then in the meantime, you

1077
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,600
don't have to put the time and
energy and effort and love into

1078
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,960
feeding your kids and your pets
and all the things, right?

1079
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,800
Like that's part of it.
And I think that's also part of

1080
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,800
like the awakening that a lot of
people are having is that, you

1081
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,400
know, there is no such thing as
work life balance.

1082
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:10,320
You do have to choose your hard,
but for women especially, like

1083
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,080
more embracing the like feminine
roles again and realizing that

1084
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,400
you can do something in your
life that fulfills you and that

1085
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,480
you're passionate about and
still take care of your kids and

1086
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,680
take care of your pets and do
those things that like fill you

1087
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,560
up as a female.
And it's, and it's annoying to

1088
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,480
me that that's a controversial
thought.

1089
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,360
Like if you say that on some
platforms you'll get beat up and

1090
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,240
I'm like.
Yeah.

1091
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,240
It's very curious, corporate
girly and have a Danny.

1092
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,560
Go for it.
If that's what absolutely fills

1093
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,960
your cup, go for it.
You know what I mean?

1094
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,960
But I'm like, I my kid is so
cool.

1095
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,400
I also could not spend all day
with him.

1096
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,360
And and I'm a person that has to
work.

1097
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,200
I have to if I wasn't working,
like if I was in a position

1098
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,280
where maybe I didn't need an
income, I would still volunteer

1099
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,280
full time.
I'd be like, heck yeah, I know I

1100
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,120
can do the stuff that I don't
have to worry about getting paid

1101
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,600
for.
I used to work at the zoos and

1102
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,000
the Raptor centers and stuff
like that.

1103
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,600
And they're like, we can't
afford to pay you.

1104
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,960
And I'm like, I can't afford to
keep volunteering, you know?

1105
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,960
But it's the most fulfilling
work.

1106
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,560
So I am so deep on the crunchy
mom side of the world.

1107
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,400
It's that's why I'm like, I'm
lit on fire about everything

1108
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,480
that's happening right now with
like the Food Babe, the

1109
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Kellogg's push and everything.
Like I'm out there like picking

1110
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,240
up because it's so cool.
I'm like, finally somebody's

1111
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,560
listening to us.
Like I, I just want to be able

1112
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:43,000
to have better choices for my
kids pediatrician and I could

1113
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,520
have an entire social media page
just on my crunchy mom stuff.

1114
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,080
But it's, you know, I can barely
manage this one.

1115
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,920
But it's it's a wild world out
there for parents trying to do

1116
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,160
things cleaner.
I know I would really love for

1117
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:04,000
it to just completely like
places where we can just label a

1118
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:09,720
lemon a lemon and then the non
organic lemons like they need to

1119
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,600
be labeled as.
I don't know.

1120
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,360
But like, we need to come up
with a label for glyphosate

1121
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,520
lemons or something.
I don't know.

1122
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,960
We're like, now it's a peel.
I'm like, I don't always have

1123
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,000
time.
Sometimes my kid grabs an apple

1124
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,720
off the shelf and just starts
eating it.

1125
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,520
And I'm like the appeal, like,
you know, it's now it has heavy

1126
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,560
metals and a wax coating and
things like that.

1127
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,080
And, and it's, it's, it's like
all consuming.

1128
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,000
I'm in a really, like I said, a
really lucky place with my pets

1129
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,960
where I'm surrounded by really
amazing company.

1130
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,400
So my choices are easy and I
feel really comfortable.

1131
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,560
But every time that I go out to
grocery shop, yeah, I just want

1132
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,600
to flip it over.
Have you ever tried to find

1133
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,560
pepperoni that doesn't have BHA
or BHT?

1134
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,640
You can't.
Like I found one, one time at

1135
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,960
like Meijer or something.
And my son loves pepperoni, but

1136
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,440
I'm like, yeah, you know, my, my
brother-in-law passed away from

1137
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,880
a childhood cancer.
He, you know, was in his 30s,

1138
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,800
but it was like a childhood
lymphoma or sarcoma.

1139
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,560
And so I talked to them and
she's like, was it what we fed

1140
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,400
him?
I'm like, there's don't you

1141
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,760
can't beat yourself up because
that first of all is not your

1142
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,160
fault and crappie kibble is not
pet owners fault.

1143
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,360
That's the industry's fault.
But we're hopefully going to be

1144
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,440
working on on some of that false
marketing and and corruption

1145
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,000
like I said, but.
Yeah.

1146
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,840
In fact, that was like kind of
the second-half of what I wanted

1147
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,800
to talk to you about.
But maybe we can schedule

1148
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:40,200
another because we brought this
up at Super Zoo that like Quick

1149
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,640
Live that we did where like we
were like trying to remember

1150
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,160
like what is called the like
green washing and and pet food.

1151
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,320
And I looked it up and according
to ChatGPT, it's called either

1152
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,960
health label.
I'm sorry, health washing or

1153
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,200
clean labeling.
So that would be cool to talk

1154
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,840
about.
And then again, kind of that

1155
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,360
rabbit hole of understanding
all, all of those really vague

1156
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,320
terms.
And I, I recently published an

1157
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,400
episode with Isabel where we
talked about the per act because

1158
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,279
if that goes through and it
looks like it before the this

1159
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:20,040
election, it looks like it was
going to go through.

1160
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:27,600
I don't know now, but it really
is going to be so detrimental

1161
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:33,560
for pet food consumer.
I've heard it and as soon as you

1162
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,439
start saying I'll I'll it'll
drop my memory.

1163
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:41,920
Yeah, the PER Act is they're
basically so the FDA is ending

1164
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:49,160
their understanding with AFCO
moving everything over to the

1165
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:54,800
Center for Veterinary Medicine.
And if you read through the PER

1166
01:08:54,800 --> 01:09:00,160
Act, it is so vague, there's a
lot of holes in it.

1167
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,800
It's going to open up.
So pet foods that you and I

1168
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,120
feed, I don't think will change
because they're small,

1169
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,200
transparent companies.
They're also voluntarily putting

1170
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,520
things on their labels that they
don't have to, Right.

1171
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,359
I actually was, I was
reprimanded for putting

1172
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,960
carbohydrates on my label even
though it's 0%.

1173
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,279
They're like, you can't have it
on there.

1174
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,000
And like, what I want to.
Yeah.

1175
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,160
Like you want to change it.
Yeah.

1176
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,279
So.
But for big pet food for the

1177
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:33,439
majority that's I think we're
probably still well around 90%

1178
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,880
of at least people in the US who
are feeding big pet what I call

1179
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:44,720
big pet food, you know, the big
kibble companies and but.

1180
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,439
It's it is akin to big pharma.
It's very big.

1181
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,359
Food now is one that I don't
think people are talking about

1182
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:55,760
enough big food.
It is it's going to give them so

1183
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,760
much more leeway.
It, it, the, the one thing it

1184
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:04,880
does state that is very
concerning is that basically, if

1185
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,320
an ingredient does or does not
make it into that batch of food,

1186
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,600
oh wow, you don't have to change
the label.

1187
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,720
Like people don't need to know
like it's, it's OK.

1188
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:19,040
It may or may not be in there.
That like, yeah, gosh, that's

1189
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,480
something.
Then like every time something

1190
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:21,960
comes up on, I just internalize
it.

1191
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,920
I definitely, I could do an
entire like 2 hours on that

1192
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,000
because I've worked in the pet
food industry and I've gone down

1193
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:34,480
so many of the rabbit holes and
it's absolutely like I almost

1194
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,720
want to call it abuse.
Because it's, it's certainly

1195
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:41,160
abuse of power.
It's, it's abuse of the trust

1196
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:46,480
that people have, abuse of
marketing claims like they, it

1197
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,760
should not be allowed.
And that's why I say like, I'm

1198
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:56,920
actually a little concerned that
if we don't have a reform in the

1199
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,720
pet food industry at the same
time we're having reform in the

1200
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,960
human food industry that.
Pet food is going to get way

1201
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,320
worse.
RFK Who's our pet food?

1202
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,080
RFK do we find?
Susan.

1203
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,280
Susan Bixton.
Yeah, just let her loose.

1204
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,560
Right.
Right, Yeah, because it's every

1205
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,640
time I see Oh my God, I got a
Snapchat filter.

1206
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,800
I think he was, it was either
Royal Canyon or like whatever

1207
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,760
one of those like a pet food
Snapchat filter.

1208
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,880
I'm like, get off of my phone
and it was, it was like a puppy

1209
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,600
playing around and I'm like
that's it's so deceptive.

1210
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,320
It's very deceptive.
It's so deceptive.

1211
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,280
I would like PET food to be
labeled like pharmaceutical

1212
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,360
bottles, like a yeah, I want
matter of fact.

1213
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,640
Brings up a whole other topic
because I've not found people

1214
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,560
the.
Commercials, the labels or

1215
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,200
whatever in the back I want,
yeah.

1216
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:54,080
Well, yeah, that, and I've
talked about this on my podcast

1217
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,800
before too.
Like unless you're getting your

1218
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,760
prescription from like your
Costco pharmacy or a compounding

1219
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,160
pharmacy, when was the last time
your veterinarian gave you the

1220
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,880
package insert for the
prescription that they're

1221
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,280
they're just giving your pet?
Like you have to ask and they're

1222
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:16,360
like, no, it's, it's fine.
And I'm like, I, I know it's

1223
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,760
probably fine.
Just would like to know.

1224
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:27,200
I also I'm a little, I'm a
little opinionated about

1225
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:32,800
vaccines as well, because no
animal that is not completely

1226
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,000
healthy shaped receive a vaccine
period.

1227
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,360
I recently, I think that was
yesterday, I saw that they're

1228
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,360
adding lepto to required
vaccines.

1229
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,720
I've heard that too.
That's insanity.

1230
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,400
I'm insanely.
Lucky because my dogs are old

1231
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:52,240
and I won't be giving them any
more any more vaccines.

1232
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,800
If they tighter, they'd be
completely, you know, covered.

1233
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,640
But it's like I have to have an
exception letter to get my dog

1234
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,560
groomed and I get it and you
know, rabies is terrible and it

1235
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,520
is making, you know, it's kind
of rearing its head again.

1236
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,760
I've seen videos recently.
So I, I do believe in

1237
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,880
vaccination.
I'm a, you know, I'm a student

1238
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,600
of science.
I do believe in evidence based

1239
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,360
medicine.
But that's exactly why you also

1240
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,120
believe in titer testing, right?
So.

1241
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,920
The whole, the whole booster
shot, yeah, I could go on

1242
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,240
forever about this, but the
whole booster shots yearly thing

1243
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,360
doesn't.
If you know anything about

1244
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:38,840
vaccines, it doesn't really make
sense because yeah.

1245
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,360
Yeah.
I could go on about it, but it's

1246
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:45,320
it's, yeah, I just think that
there's so much out there just

1247
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,000
praying on well meaning pet
owners and it disgusts me.

1248
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,400
And that's why I'm like,
regardless of I could shut this

1249
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,840
company down and I honestly
might even go harder on the

1250
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,360
Instagram because the voices out
there like yours, like Karen

1251
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,800
Becker, like the fact that we
now have a moderately mainstream

1252
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:09,520
source and it's not being
called, you know, snake oil and

1253
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,280
it's not being called woo woo.
It's factual.

1254
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,080
It's amazing.
So I'm like, finally there's

1255
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,560
some uptick.
But yeah, I mean, I agree, we

1256
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,600
need like a Susan Thixton or
somebody out there just knocking

1257
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,680
some people down.
And yeah, luckily we have like

1258
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,440
Judy Morgan's doing a great job
and people, a lot of our

1259
01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:32,320
industry is now starting to go
to AFCO.

1260
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:40,800
It just is kind of too much of a
big beast to take on from a

1261
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,880
grassroots scale.
So there has to be something,

1262
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,120
has to be something else.
Yeah, yeah, kind of keep

1263
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,960
plugging away.
And then I was going to talk

1264
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,160
about for a second, sorry,
borders and bites, you said, how

1265
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,040
do you feel about open farm raw
mixed kibble?

1266
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,440
I wanted to talk raw.
Mixed kibble is one of those

1267
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:08,680
things that kind of, you know,
irks my pet food marketing brain

1268
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:17,240
because it's usually a lot more
money than just adding some raw

1269
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,480
food to your kibble.
It is great marketing because

1270
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:24,600
now they're getting the people
that hear that raw food is

1271
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,480
great.
Open from generally is a good

1272
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:30,160
food.
It's one of those that I that I

1273
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,840
would feed, but the raw mixed
kibbles to me like just go get

1274
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,920
some great raw and add it, add
it in to me.

1275
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,400
To me, it's just kind of a
marketing plug.

1276
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,960
I agree with that, I think I
even did an episode about it.

1277
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:46,520
What?
Garlic's posed up by the door.

1278
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,600
She heard your dog.
She's like, come here, Scarlett,

1279
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,200
what do?
You think of homemade cooked

1280
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,760
meat diet for cats with an added
completer?

1281
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,320
I think it's better than kibble.
This Scarlett.

1282
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,880
Oh, my goodness.
She's our.

1283
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,440
I call her like my junkyard dog.
She's just big enough to scare

1284
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:07,200
the people that need to be
scared.

1285
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,600
But she's she's she'll take your
knees.

1286
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,920
Yeah, she's the girl.
She's like the perfect man's dog

1287
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,240
probably to be.
But she's also an Angel.

1288
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,080
She drools constantly.
Sweet, sweet baby.

1289
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,240
Yeah, and 12 for a Rottweiler is
crazy, given the fact that when

1290
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,360
I met him, he was feeding just
whatever off brand food from

1291
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,080
like a feed supply.
I did it was like 65% carb and

1292
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,840
I'm like she's like, what do you
think of this?

1293
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,080
I think it was our first date.
He's like, this is the food that

1294
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,120
I get.
Could you tell me what you

1295
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,240
think?
I'm like how?

1296
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,720
How deep do you want?
To do you want to grow?

1297
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,880
I usually ask people how long
you got.

1298
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,520
Yeah.
Are you sure you want to get

1299
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,480
into that?
I got a couple hours for you,

1300
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,680
right?
All right, Well, yeah, let's do

1301
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,000
this again.
Let's talk about what did we.

1302
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,320
What did I say?
Clean labeling.

1303
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Maybe at some point in theories
and rabbit OH.

1304
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,520
My God, I could go on to.
Do it I could.

1305
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,360
I could go on forever and ever
and ever and ever and ever and.

1306
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,800
I'm so, so deep on that side of
things right now and there's

1307
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,640
once you're in, you can't get,
you can't.

1308
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,680
I think it's like Candace so and
there's something said like, if

1309
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,000
you're not a conspiracy theorist
by now, who?

1310
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,240
What are you doing?
I know how.

1311
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,680
It's not even conspiracy
theories because it's so once

1312
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,240
you start to look at it, you're
like, Oh my God, like what

1313
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,920
happened with the hemp industry,
The whole history of how pot

1314
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,400
became illegal.
Yeah, it has.

1315
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,040
Nothing to do with it being a
drug.

1316
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,280
No.
It has to do with.

1317
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,480
The.
Yeah, yeah.

1318
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,120
Yeah, it's it's insane when you
really start to go down the

1319
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,160
rabbit holes.
And I'm telling you every time I

1320
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,600
watch a Joe Rogan episode so
that I find a new one to go

1321
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,360
down.
So.

1322
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,360
I've been, yeah, I watched like
3 Joe Rogan episodes a day.

1323
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,280
But yeah, we'll have to do that
another time.

1324
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,480
I'm like, I have to pick up my
kid here so I can go for another

1325
01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:58,880
six hours.
God knows.

1326
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,440
Yeah, that's why I think I'm
almost bad.

1327
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,560
All of my fangs and fur podcast
episodes that I've done are like

1328
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,480
2 hours long and he's like, all
right, yeah, coming into this,

1329
01:18:07,480 --> 01:18:09,920
let's try to stick around 45
minutes and it's like an hour

1330
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,760
and a half long.
I'm like, I'm so sorry.

1331
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,280
It usually has to be like the
explicit thing after it because

1332
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:19,640
I dropped a swear words, but
it's yeah.

1333
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,080
Oh my goodness.
All right, well, it was so nice

1334
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,080
to talk to you.
And I hope people do check out

1335
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:30,400
Girls Gone Raw Pet Health.
And if you want to talk to your

1336
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,800
indie pet store about carrying
it, please do because they can.

1337
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:40,040
They can order wholesale
directly from her website and no

1338
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,920
excuses.
So talk to your indie pet store

1339
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,520
about carrying it.
All right, I think, you know,

1340
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,040
I'm not going to fight that
Diane.

1341
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,280
I will have my cats on here next
time but they are chaos and they

1342
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,040
have to be touching me all the
time and it's extremely

1343
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,160
distracting.
Most of them like to sleep like

1344
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:01,360
right here.
They're like, so yeah, take take

1345
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,040
your breath away is that.
I'm a crazy cat lady for sure.

1346
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,400
Say my love.
Well, it was, yeah, it was

1347
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,800
awesome talking here.
Sorry to do that forever.

1348
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,680
I know you too.
Have a good rest of your day and

1349
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,840
we will plan another one soon.
Sounds good.

1350
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:16,960
Thanks for hopping on guys.
It was good answering all your

1351
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,080
questions as well.
Absolutely.

1352
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,720
All right.
Have a good rest of your week.

1353
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:21,880
See you.