183. Why Seed Oils Are Bad for You & How to Choose the Best Omega-3 Fish Oil with Kara of Raw Remedies

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This was your idea to talk about
oils.

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And I love it because it's such
a big topic and there's so much.

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I think right now people are so
used to one in the US at least,

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politicizing everything and just
taking such a strong stance and

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like, not budging that people
aren't willing to learn right

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to.
And so I hate that food has

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become politicized, but that's
where we are today.

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And so hopefully my goal is to
talk, just completely talk about

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the facts and try to leave
politics out of this because I

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mean, politics has no business
in food.

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Like, literally every single one
of us needs food to survive, to,

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like, continue to live on this
planet every day.

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Like, yes, we do not need to be
bringing politics into this.

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I'm going to take a drink
because my throat is like, I

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don't know what's going on.
Sip, girl, sip.

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So no, I agree.
So no, it's really frustrating.

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We tend to joke in medicine like
this is the hill that I'll die

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on, right?
And people will stick to their

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guns until they're blue in the
face, even if they turn out to

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be wrong.
And what's really frustrating

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about it is you can be presented
with the, I'm going to use air

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quotes here for people who are
listening and not watching, but

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you can be presented with the
evidence.

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But where did that evidence come
from?

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How was the study run?
Was there bias?

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Was it cherry picked?
Who funded that study?

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Was it a third party small
company or a business?

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Or was it a huge multi
$1,000,000 pharmaceutical

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company?
And so it just makes it really

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difficult.
And then a lot of people don't

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even read beyond an abstract.
So let's say you're reading a

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study and you just read the
abstract, which is kind of that

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beginning paragraph.
Anybody's ever opened a study,

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right?
It's the first thing that comes

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up and it's a summarization.
You have to read beyond that

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because oftentimes they make
very misleading statements and

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don't actually tell you the
results of the study.

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They'll just have their
hypothesis and if the results

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don't match it, they don't have
to put that in the abstract.

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So it's really frustrating.
You have to know how to dissect

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a paper and you have to know how
to really see about the validity

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of something before you adopt
that as science.

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And unfortunately that's the
background of the safety and

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recommendation of Food Oil is is
of seed oils.

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Excuse me, is bad science bad
science?

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Well, and the reality is that, I
mean, you can go down the rabbit

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hole of everything else that the
pharmaceutical companies have

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also profited and benefited
from, from that bad science,

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from bringing seed oils into the
food system.

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Because, you know, going back,
and I know you said you were

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going to go back and get some of
those statistics.

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So I did not do that.
But going back, it was

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originally created canola oil
was originally created because

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of a surplus of machine oil that
was being made for World War 2.

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And they're like, OK, they put
so much money and resources into

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making this machine oil that
they're like, instead of saying

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let's reallocate these resources
to something else, they're just

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like, Nope, we're all in on
this.

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Let's figure out how we can use
it in another way.

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And it just, it took scientists
to genetically modify the

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rapeseed plant to be able to use
it as food.

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So that's what they did.
And to get it to the point that

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you see it on the shelf is
horrifying, like.

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So process.
Literally the IT will disgust

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you to the point where I think
our we have been conditioned

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that our like we get horrified
about something and 10 seconds

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later we've forgotten about it,
right.

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But like, go watch the video.
Go watch.

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Videos on.
How how it is made because I

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mean literally the chemicals
they use to make this are

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carcinogenic.
They're horrible for us and they

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claim that those chemicals don't
survive into the final product.

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But I don't, I don't, I don't
know about, I don't know about

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all this.
And rancid, it's all rancid

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100%.
Like there you cannot get a seed

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oil that isn't rancid.
And one of the things who was

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this that just somebody just
said Millie's raw like yes.

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And so I think it was sunflower,
isn't it?

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I believe it is sunflower oil
that they used in mice when they

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want to induce insulin
resistance, like when they're

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trying to do studies and study
things and you can't do it all

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that much, so you do it on mice.
So I think it's sunflower oil

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that they use to induce insulin
resistance in mice.

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So it's not like we don't know
what this does to us.

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Yeah.
So I want to list.

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Yes, please go ahead with your
SO.

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Millie for for people who are
going to be just listening

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because I'm going to put this on
my podcast, but Millie's raw

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Life said, how do you feel about
sunflower oil in pre made raw

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dog food?
So not just dog food, but human

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ingredients, right?
Anywhere the ones that we're

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talking about today are soybean.
So these are the seed oils,

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soybean, corn, canola, cotton
seed, rapeseed, grape seed,

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sunflower, safflower, sesame,
peanut and rice bran.

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Those are the oils, the ones
that we are specifically not

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talking about that I personally
feel very comfortable using are

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avocado oil, coconut oil, and
with a caveat that I'll bring up

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later, olive oil.
So those are the oils that I

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feel comfortable using that we
are not talking about today.

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So, but the ones that I listed,
including Amelia's Raw Life,

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sunflower oil is a big no for
me.

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Yeah.
And, and a lot of a lot of

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brands do use it to balance out
their recipes.

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And it's like you have to always
balance the risk and reward and

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everything that you're doing for
yourself and for your pets.

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And so if your choice is between
a pre made company that has

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incredible sourcing that is
using all whole food ingredients

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to balance their recipes and one
of those ingredients happens to

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be like a little bit of
sunflower oil versus something

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else you're looking at that
maybe has Whole Foods in it, but

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they're using a premix to
balance it out.

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I personally, I'm still going to
choose the the whole food

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balance that has a little bit of
sunflower oil in it.

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And granted, that's something
that you have to decide for

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yourself, but for me like that,
I would choose that and.

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It depends on how much, right?
So for example, 3 to 5

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tablespoons of a seed oil.
So 3 to 5 tablespoons of corn

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oil would be equivalent to about
60 to 70 ears of corn in a day.

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That's how concentrated and
condensed it is.

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Or three to five tablespoons of
soybean oil would be equivalent

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to 2 lbs.
Of soybeans per day.

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These are numbers that no, no
animal on this earth, be you a

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cat, dog, human, could possibly,
maybe an elephant could consume,

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you know, 70 ears of corn per
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But like, no, for the purpose of
what we're talking about, nobody

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is consuming that.
That is not species appropriate.

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It's not healthy.
And so sure, maybe a couple of

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drops of something, OK.
But if something is calling for

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and I'm, I'm happy to call out
some brands, for example, just

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food for dogs.
This is actually the first say,

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fresh dog food that I ever came
across years ago when I was

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first researching fresh food for
my pets.

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And their recipes call for
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oil.
That's, I mean, excessive.

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That's so much.
And I didn't know it at the

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time.
And I, I actually did make a

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couple of those recipes and it
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And anyways, it did not turn out
we switched to raw.

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But you know, knowing how much
is in there is very important,

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right?
So if something calls for three

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to five tablespoons of a seed
oil, but it's in a gigantic

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batch, right?
Like they're putting that much

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in 50 lbs of food to make the
food complete and balanced, and

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then you're feeding 8 ounces of
that food to your pet per day.

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OK, that's not nearly as much,
but if it's that amount of a

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seed oil in one serving, that is
excessive.

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So knowing what it is, but also
knowing the amount that is in

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the serving that you're feeding
is very important.

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So should you come across
something that has a seed oil in

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it like that, reach out to the
company and say, hey, do you

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know how much of this is in
there approximately based on 1

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LB or something?
You know, easy for them to

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delineate and they should be
able to answer those questions

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for you.
And if they can't, then perhaps

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that's not the company for you.
Yeah, absolutely.

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So, OK, just the process of
making these oils is bonkers to

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me.
That's bad enough.

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But what it actually is doing in
our body, that's the other thing

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that we we really need to talk
about and focus on because the

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whole premise of adding these
into our food supply in the 1st

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place was that they lower
cholesterol.

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Their quote UN quote heart
healthy which I complete like

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I'm calling BS on this.
I'm just completely physical.

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Pain now that I know so, so
you're right Jess, they do

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technically lower your LDL.
Technically, they lower a

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number.
They lower a number like

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there's.
However, asterisks that most

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people don't know by like.
So they lower a number on a

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piece of paper, but lowering
this number has 0 beneficial

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impact to cardiovascular health.
So even though the number on

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this piece of paper is lower, it
is not improving health

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outcomes.
And there is a correlation with

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the introduction of seed oils
and heart disease prevalency.

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And we can talk about that in a
minute because I think you're

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about to talk about insulin
resistance.

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Yeah.
Well, so I have to be honest,

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and I still kind of struggle a
little bit with trying to

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explain insulin resistance.
But basically when you ingest

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food, whatever food you are
eating or whatever food your pet

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is eating, your, your body is
looking at protein, fat and

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carbs.
Like how are we going to process

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these and break these down into
usable, like how how our cells

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can actually use these for
energy.

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And when we are primarily eating
proteins and fats, we can go

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into what's called a ketogenic
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So we're using ketones in the
body to, to fuel our body.

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Basically, when we eat a lot of
sugars and carbohydrates, our

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body has to produce insulin to
break these down.

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Am I getting this right?
Kind of?

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And so insulin is technically a
hormone when we produce a ton of

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insulin because our diet is full
of starches and sugars and all

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of these carbohydrates most, I
mean, granted, yes, some, you

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know, vegetables are going to
have some carbohydrates, but we

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consider those to be like
healthy carbohydrates, which you

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can still overdo if you're doing
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potatoes and things like that.
So our body is producing insulin

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to break these down.
And because it's a hormone, when

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we have all of this insulin in
the body, what doesn't get used

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gets stored and it gets stored
in fat cells.

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And our like, it's, this is just
too much for our body to handle.

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Like producing the massive
amounts of insulin that we do

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for the standard American diet,
which is what we're feeding our,

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most of us are feeding our pets,
right?

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Especially when we're feeding
kibble that is equivalent to the

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standard American diet and it's
it's too much for our body to be

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able to handle.
So we, and This is why like

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it's, it's the excess is stored
in fat, which is why we have a

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lot, a lot of fat on our body.
Yeah, well, you need to store

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these hormones somewhere.
And granted the liver is going

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on too.
Well, yes, there's the so stored

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in stored.
In skeletal muscles stored in

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the liver, so it contributes to
body fat just like overall

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adiposity.
So like that kind of like the

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belly and the hips is where you
tend to store it.

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But then also fatty liver, like
literal infiltration of the

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liver turns from this beautiful
and toxifying organ into just

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this marbled.
It's just bad.

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It's just bad.
But no, you're right.

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And that's is all like a really,
I think excellent explanation.

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I like to think of insulin.
I really like the way you

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explain that.
But I'm going to make this

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analogy because in case anybody
notice, I'm wearing all my

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Bill's gear because today is
football day.

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Insulin receptors on a cell
looks like a goalpost.

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So like this, right?
And so you're almost just think,

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I'm such a nerd.
I almost think of it like you're

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kicking the football through the
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That's glucose.
So you're kicking it and needs

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to go through these receptors
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The problem is if you're
constantly bombarding your poor

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little goal posts, Yeah,
Millie's real life Go, Bill.

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If you're constantly trying to
kick football after football

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after football through these
goal posts, it's going to

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collapse.
And all of a sudden you can't

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get it into the cell anymore.
It gets desensitized and it's

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exhausted because we don't want
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We want it in the cell, drive it
inside because that is what is

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going to help feed our
mitochondria, which produces our

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energy, which is what we need to
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And so that's the big problem
with this insulin resistance, is

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it just gets so desensitized
that you can't do it anymore.

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It's like if you live next to a
spruway and you always hear the

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vehicles passing.
By after a while.

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You don't hear it anymore, it
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That's that sound dissociation.
And then a friend comes over and

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they go, Oh my God, it's so loud
here, how can you stand it?

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And you're like, I didn't even
hear it anymore.

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That's what happens.
That's insulin resistance.

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And it's a huge problem.
And these seed oils contribute

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to that.
They do and that and we were

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asked to who asked this Oh
Millie's real life about the

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inflammatory nature of seed
oils.

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And I think talking about the
inflammatory nature of seed oils

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actually is it is also a good
segue into fish oils because I

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think that's what most of us
think of omegas for is, is, is

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reducing inflammation.
But exactly what Cara was just

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explaining, like when our body
is over, so there's, there's

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good stress and there's bad
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There's what do I want?
How do I want to say this?

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There's good stress, there's bad
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And we, a lot of us think of
like Omega sixes, for example,

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which seed oils are very high in
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They actually because of the
high heat processing that they

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go through, they're oxidized and
they're they create trans fats.

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So all of this is very, very
inflammatory in our body.

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So when we think of
inflammation, we think of like

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Omega sixes because that is the
responder that's helping the

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body create inflammation.
And inflammation is not always a

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bad thing.
So you get a cut, right?

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You get a cut or a broken bone
or something and your body is

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going to create inflammation in
that area because yes.

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Proper wounds healing
inflammatory cascade, right?

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Your cut's not going to stop
bleeding unless you activate

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your inflammatory cascade.
Yes, you need it which you just.

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Don't need why we need yes, so
we do need Omega sixes because

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that is what produce that that's
producing the inflammatory,

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that's helping produce the
inflammatory response in the

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body.
So they are necessary.

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We don't want to demonize Omega
sixes, but when our entire diet

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is Omega sixes, that's a
problem.

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We have to balance out the Omega
sixes with the Omega and the

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standard American diet has
little to no Omega threes in it.

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I mean, it's so bad when we
think about what we eat, when we

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think it.
Well, I mean just the amount of

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processed food we eat is
insanity.

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Like literal insanity how much
processed food we eat.

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But even those of us that try to
eat as much fresh Whole Foods as

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possible if we are not sourcing
them properly, if we are not

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looking for grass, egg, grass,
finished beef.

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If we're not looking at pasture
raised eggs, we're not.

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Like you have to be very
intentional to actually get the

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Omega threes in your diet unless
you're going, unless you're

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eating seafood, which we'll talk
about in just a little bit.

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There are a whole other sort of
issues.

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Zone hosting problems.
Yeah, so and then.

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Oh, go ahead.
The rancid like so all of these

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seed oils are rancid, so they
have to use deodorizers for us

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to even eat them.
Like literally if they didn't

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deodorize the seed oils, we
would all open a bottle of

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canola oil and be like my God,
there's no way I could put this

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in my body.
So imagine what those

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deodorizers are doing to your
bottom.

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Yeah, and I mean beyond even
just so, the Standard American

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Diet, which we all lovingly
called the SAD diet.

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If you think about what's in pet
food like kibble, which isn't

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even food, it's feed, right?
It's feed grade, not food grade.

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The recommendation is 30 to one
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That is so far beyond species
appropriate in the wild, like

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wolves and big cats would eat
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4:00 to 1:00 ratio depending on
the season and what's available.

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So, you know, to to say that
it's OK to have 30 Omega 6 to

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one omega-3 ratio is five to six
times what a species appropriate

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diet would provide.
And it's just driving so much

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disease, diabetes, obesity,
heart disease, strokes,

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cognitive disorders, cognitive
like canine cognitive disorder

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is related to inflammation.
It's related to high sugar in

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people, Alzheimer's, they're
calling it type 3 diabetes.

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Now finally, for years, for
years, we've known that high

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sugar contributes to
Alzheimer's.

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And it only just now is starting
to come out in literature.

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I mean, it's just it's bonkers.
And what's so funny about so

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much of this is from the minute
this campaign started, I know

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we're kind of hopping all over
the place, but from the minute

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this campaign started back in
the 30s, based scientists and

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nutritionists were they knew and
they tried to push back and they

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were silenced.
And this is again where I'm

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going to say I am not afraid to
sound like a conspiracy

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theorist.
But the people who stuck their

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neck out and said this is wrong,
there's no data and you're going

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to kill people were slandered.
Their good name was run into the

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ground.
The papers that they that they

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spent years and tons of money
producing were buried never see

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the light of day.
You.

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Know and then their professional
connections didn't want to be

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associated with them anymore
because then they were at risk.

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When you spend hundreds of
thousands of dollars and more

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than half of your life in school
getting educated so that you can

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then become the educator for
other people and then you stand

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up for the right thing and
everything you have built for

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gets yanked out from under you.
Of course people stopped talking

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and this is what happened.
And I would strongly encourage

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people to look into a book and
I'll link it.

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We can link it in.
Crap.

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I'm on my computer not my.
I can't copy and paste it

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because I'm on Instagram on my
computer and not my phone.

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But it's called the big fat
surprise is the name of this

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book.
It's by Nina Teckels.

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Nina.
I'm sorry, I don't I don't know

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how to say your last name but
it's called the big fat

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surprise.
Why butter, meat and cheese

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belong in a healthy diet.
And it's all about the rise of

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seed oils.
The scientists that were

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silenced and the very, very poor
studies that this was based off

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of when they integrated this
into the nutrition

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recommendations in 1961.
So the big fat surprise.

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Yeah.
Well, I like it's on.

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It's on Audible too.
Yeah, I love that.

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Freon Audible, if you sign up
for a free trial, but it is

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actually 10 years old as of
January 5th, 2025.

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Ten years old.
So we've known about this for 10

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years, ever longer, right?
But people have been publishing

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books for years and years and
years.

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And still you can find seed oils
everywhere you go and you can

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find them in the stupidest
things like your salad dressing

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or oat milk or bread.
I mean, some of some of this

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bread is so processed now.
Cereal.

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I mean, if you go out to a
restaurant last week, my husband

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and I, we went out to eat and I
saw roasted cauliflower on the

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menu and I asked the syrup.
I was like, excuse me, could you

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tell me what this is fried?
And she's like, oh, I'll be

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right back.
She comes back.

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Safflower oil or, excuse me,
sunflower seed oil.

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I was like, OK, no thank you.
You cannot get something fried

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at a restaurant without it being
fried in seed oils.

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And that takes your healthy
cauliflower into an unhealthy,

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prone, inflammatory appetizer.
So it's just almost impossible

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to ignore because we demonized
saturated fats, which is what

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humans existed on for centuries
with no heart disease.

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Well, not only that, but
literally, and you can correct

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me because I know you're the
medical professional here and

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you already brought up cognitive
function and Alzheimer's

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dementia.
But our brain, the all like the

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myelin sheath around all of our
cells, all of the building

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blocks of our brain is comprised
of primarily saturated fats.

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So if we are, if we are not
consuming saturated fats and

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then how does that survive?
How does that like exactly?

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That's the problem.
Yep, that's the problem.

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And that's why cognitive
disorders, I think, are becoming

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so much more prevalent.
You know, not just the sugar,

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but also the lack of healthy
fat.

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Yes, it is really, really tough.
It's almost and like I still, we

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still eat out, but it's so much
less than we used to because you

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can't.
You just can't.

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Like can't avoid it.
You almost have to just be so

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intentional about, OK, we're
going to quote UN quote,

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splurge, whatever, however often
once a month and like go to a

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restaurant and not ask these
questions, you know what I mean?

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Because you're just going to be
disappointed.

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You're just though I will say
one of the things that gets me

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so hard is that I think it's
Paul Saldino that says that it

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takes like 2 plus years for your
body to like detox after eating

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seed oils.
So like even going once a month

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and like man, I really shouldn't
do that, you know what I mean?

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And I go more than once a month,
like still like, okay, there's

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another two years.
Well, it takes a couple of years

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to have.
Complete cell turnover as well.

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Yeah.
So it's not, I don't know that

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it's like directly linked to I
had like some ranch dressing

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when I went out to eat and got a
salad, and now there's some seed

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oils in me and you know what I
mean?

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But it's.
Yeah, it's like the overall cell

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turnover.
So I mean, you can see

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improvements if you cut these
things out in just a couple of

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months for some people, if
they're really sensitive and

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their diet was terrible, perhaps
a couple of weeks.

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But to get 100% cellular
turnover and almost like start

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completely anew, it takes a few
years.

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Yeah, but you absolutely can
like start more.

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And whenever you start, I'm, I'm
one of those people that like

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for so long, I'm like, I'll
start on Monday, right.

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But like, why wait for Monday?
That's what I've been trying to

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do lately is like I keep saying,
people talking about like, don't

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save that outfit for a special
occasion.

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Do you have any idea how many
pieces of clothing in my are in

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my closet, like waiting for some
special occasion to wear that

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And like I need to stop doing
that.

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And I think like, like that
translates to like, don't wait

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for a special occasion to start
making improvements in your diet

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and your pets diet because they
all matter.

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Every every tiny little thing
that you do really matters and

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compounds over time.
And so, yeah, kind of maybe take

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that inflammatory process and
switch gears a little bit into

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fish oils if you're ready to go
there because Oh my gosh,

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there's so much.
And I will say most of what I

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know, I just have to give a
shout out.

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Most of what I know and
understand when it comes to

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omegas in general is from Judah,
I tell from Nordic Naturals.

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I had tried to learn so much
before talking to him, and it

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just didn't stick.
And he really like simplified

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things and made things sound so
easy.

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Not well, I want to, I probably
shouldn't say easy because it's

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still difficult.
It is difficult.

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We just live in a world that
makes things difficult for us as

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far as finding clean sourcing
and finding like the truth

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basically like everything is so
hidden in marketing that it can

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be really hard to even if you're
not paying attention to the

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front label packaging, whatever
you're looking at and you're

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turning it around and looking
at, you know, the ingredient

449
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,360
list or whatever, it can still
be really, really hard to to be

450
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,920
like, OK, I trust and believe
that this is going to be

451
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:36,160
beneficial or not to my body.
And so with fish oils or let's

452
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,400
just say omegas, Omegas in
general, we earlier said don't

453
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760
demonize Omega sixes.
We do need them.

454
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,880
And in fact, we the requirement
or the, you know, the what we're

455
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,440
shooting for is actually to have
more Omega sixes in the diet

456
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,440
than Omega threes, but to keep
that keep them in check.

457
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,160
So as you were saying, the 30 to
one, which I think is on the

458
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,480
kind of low side for a lot of
pet foods, you know, Kibbles,

459
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,040
that is her.
Like I, I feel like if a medical

460
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,680
doctor told a human to eat a
diet that had that ratio, like

461
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,080
they would be like sued for
malpractice or something, you

462
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,640
know, like that is so horrible.
Yeah, it is unintentional.

463
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,480
People don't know.
People don't understand.

464
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,480
They don't know, and doctors
don't know.

465
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Nurse practitioners don't know.
We don't know.

466
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,360
I went to school for a really
long time and guess how many

467
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,960
hours of specific nutrition
training I received.

468
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,600
You could count.
I was going to say, you can feel

469
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,640
like count on one hand. 00
nurses, we don't get that nurse

470
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,680
practitioner.
We don't get that doctors.

471
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Do you know how much doctors
get?

472
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,640
88 hours of nutrition education.
And it's all trash, by the way.

473
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,200
And they talk about like a lipid
profiles and checking lipid

474
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,120
profiles, and they tie all that
in there.

475
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,440
And it's actually incorrect
information.

476
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,760
So what they're being taught is
also wrong because it comes from

477
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,680
up here.
And I mean, it's just so hard.

478
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,840
And maybe just to give like a
quick tie into current events so

479
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,320
that people don't think I'm just
a crazy person spouting

480
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,120
nonsense.
But probably a lot of people

481
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,720
have heard that red dye #5
finally a law has been passed to

482
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,680
remove it from foods, right?
They have two years.

483
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Companies have two years to
remove these from their foods.

484
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,880
But we've known for 30 years, 30
that it's carcinogenic, it's

485
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,840
linked to cancer.
So we've known for 30 years.

486
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Finally in 2025, we said, hey,
time to yank it, but we're

487
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,000
lenient.
So you have until 2027 to

488
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080
actually remove it from your
product, right?

489
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,800
Well, like.
How?

490
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,360
But not only that, they still
have the grass process that

491
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,160
generally recognizes safe,
right.

492
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,280
So that is still in play and how
how all of these artificial dyes

493
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,920
have been used for so long to
begin with is through this

494
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,720
generally recognized as safe
system.

495
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,440
And so just like what happened,
we were all thrilled that

496
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,600
Roundup had to pull glyphosate
out of their product for sale,

497
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,440
not for AG, but for us, as you
know, individuals to be able to

498
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,440
buy.
And what did they do?

499
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,720
They just replaced it with four
different chemicals that have

500
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,600
been found to be like 40 times
more carcinogenic than

501
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,240
glyphosate to begin with.
So I mean, the same thing in my

502
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960
opinion.
And it granted this is really

503
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320
negative, but this is just what
they have shown us that they

504
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,920
have done throughout the history
of the FDA is that they will

505
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,920
probably just alter it
chemically very slightly, call

506
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200
it something else and put it
right back through, through the

507
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,920
generally recognized as safe
system.

508
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Yeah, well, because it's all
about the money, it's all about

509
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,240
profits and it's all about who
owns what.

510
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,480
And if you're ever questioning
what you can use, look and see

511
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,880
what your who owns your company.
I got really excited that last

512
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,360
month because I found some
tallow, beef tallow at Sprouts,

513
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520
which is like a healthy food
market near me.

514
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840
And I was like, Oh my God,
tallow.

515
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,480
I'm going to get this and cook
with it.

516
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,240
Brought it home, used it kind of
was like this.

517
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Seems a little bit weird, smells
a little bit clinical, like it's

518
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
really white, like whiter than I
would expect it to be cooked

519
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,080
with it.
Didn't love it.

520
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Looked them up and found out
that the company is actually

521
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,400
owned by General Mills.
Yeah.

522
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
So this was a small independent
company and then they were

523
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800
bought up by General Mills.
So I went on their website and I

524
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,160
started looking through their
reviews and if you go back four

525
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,840
years, the reviews are amazing.
Once you get to two years ago

526
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520
when they got bought out, all of
a sudden the reviews are saying

527
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,640
like it looks different, it
smells different, it tastes

528
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,360
different.
Well, that's when they were

529
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,520
purchased.
Soon as you get purchased by an

530
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,480
MLN multi level marketing
company, a billion dollar

531
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,400
corporation, which by the way,
there's only like what 15 of

532
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,200
them that own 90% of all the
processed foods in America or

533
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,440
something like that.
That's crazy.

534
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,080
The quality takes a nosedive all
of the things that just said.

535
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Plus, know who owns your company
that you're using because it

536
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,600
might not be them anymore.
Well, and yes, we are going to

537
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,760
talk a little bit more about
fish oils, but to elaborate on

538
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,720
that, I was just reading PFI Pet
Pet food Industry.

539
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,360
They published blogs regularly
and the General Mills Pet

540
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,440
division specifically who by the
way, recently acquired Thera

541
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Pets who people are still in
love with.

542
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:37,520
So General Mills 2023 quarter
for profits to 2024 quarter for

543
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:44,160
profits declined 4%.
Meanwhile, like their sales, I'm

544
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160
sorry, not there's profits,
there's sales.

545
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,120
The sales from quarter four to
quarter 4 and 23 to 24 decreased

546
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560
4%.
Meanwhile their profits

547
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,120
increased 9%.
How do you do that unless you

548
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880
are seriously cutting the
quality of the products you're

549
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,960
putting out for sale?
Yep, Yep.

550
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
You either cut the quality or
you increase the price.

551
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,600
But people would, people would
be shouting to the rafters if

552
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,240
they significantly increase
their price.

553
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280
Yes, yeah.
I hate it.

554
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Both probably, but you know,
yeah anyway, so yes, fish oils

555
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,680
or yeah, fish Omega threes in
general, Omega threes in

556
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
general.
So one of the things and I think

557
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,200
because there are still people
out there who are looking for

558
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:36,040
for alternatives to fish to any
sort of marine based Omega

559
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,360
threes and for good reason,
because humans.

560
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Humans pollute everything.
Yeah, humans.

561
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Oh my gosh, we ruin everything.
So we have to worry about

562
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
microplastics, we have to worry
about mercury and lead and

563
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320
cadmium, and we have to worry
about overfishing, and we have

564
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,640
to worry about species that are
on the bridge of extinction.

565
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Like we have to worry about so
many things when we consider

566
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,840
fish oils.
So it makes sense that people

567
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,240
are like, how else can we get
omegas indoors, right?

568
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:12,000
So I'm going to say this wrong.
I want to say linoleic, but

569
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640
Judas says linoleinic.
So I'm not sure which way it is

570
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Ala alpha linoleic.
That is what is considered

571
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,000
essential.
EPA and DHA are considered

572
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,320
necessary.
And so a lot of people will

573
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,720
still look at things like
flaxseed oil and say it has a

574
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,800
lot of Ala in it.
So let's.

575
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Have seed oil.
Right.

576
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,640
And the problem there is that
the conversion from Ala yes to

577
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,760
DHA and EPA in the body is
really poor, like between 1 and

578
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,920
10%.
So yes, we do want Ala and we

579
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,960
can get that from, in fact it's
plentiful and a lot of plant

580
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080
matter, flax, hemp, chia, leafy
greens.

581
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,600
So we yes and it is necessary.
And so we do need to be eating

582
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,480
plant matter for lots of
different reasons, some of which

583
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,920
are, you know, fiber or
microbiome, all of that.

584
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,280
But to get EPA and DHA, we've
we've got to go to the ocean,

585
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,840
right?
Whether that is fish sources, so

586
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,440
cold water fish or algae, that's
still a good source.

587
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,720
We can still get the EPA and DHA
from algae sources.

588
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,720
I think some of the problems
with all of the problems with

589
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,520
fish are there with algae
outside of I think at this point

590
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,440
it's it's grows really quickly.
It's very sustained.

591
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,440
It's more sustainable I think
than than, but we're still

592
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,120
dealing with all of the problems
with plastics with an algae, I

593
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120
think I don't, you can correct
me on this.

594
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Are we, I know with kelp we're
dealing with a bioaccumulator.

595
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Is algae a bioaccumulator too?
I think algae is not and I tried

596
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
not to shake the camera, but I
just tags tagged Amy runs from

597
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080
one of my absolute favorite
fresh food companies.

598
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,000
Goodness gracious at the other
day she shared a phenomenal

599
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,280
chart that has like the levels
of like by size of fish and risk

600
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,320
of mercury and other toxic heavy
metals, and she had some other

601
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,920
things in there that I think
included.

602
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,679
I have to go back and look so
shame on me, but like the the

603
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,080
the levels of the fish oils so
of the excuse me, Omega threes

604
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520
and so I would definitely check
her out.

605
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,960
Anybody who's listening Amy
runs.

606
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560
I think it's probably just
goodness gracious.

607
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,280
Goodness gracious pet, I think
it's goodness gracious pet, I

608
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080
believe.
You'll find it if you just look

609
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,120
up.
Goodness gracious, they're an

610
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,800
amazing company.
But yeah, she has some really

611
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
great resources.
Yeah, and generally speaking it

612
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,679
is the smaller the fish, the
less likely.

613
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:42,520
The lower the.
Risk.

614
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,320
The lower the.
Yeah, the lower the.

615
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,840
Lower you get on the food chain,
the lower the risk of any kind

616
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,679
of contamination be a
microplastics to mercury.

617
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,760
So that's why things like algae
and phytoplankton or even like

618
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,480
krill, although there's like a
moral conversation about krill,

619
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080
but you know, the smaller, the
smaller the better, essentially.

620
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Yeah, absolutely.
So we do need to supplement

621
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Omega threes in the diet and one
of the questions earlier I think

622
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,040
it was Millie's real life was
cod liver oil and I think so cod

623
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,960
liver oil does have EPA and DHAI
think a lot of when you're

624
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,760
finding it in pre made raw foods
they are using it for like

625
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,560
vitamins A&D.
Yeah, so all of those, which is

626
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,200
nice.
Yes.

627
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,760
So yes, you're going to get the
added benefit of Omega threes,

628
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,840
but they're probably not using
enough to give you like any real

629
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,080
amount of Omega threes.
I think with any pet food, even

630
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,520
if you're feeding a pre made
raw, they are like yes, a lot of

631
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,440
them, some of them do have
pretty decent levels of Omega

632
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800
threes in them because of how
they're sourcing.

633
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080
And since we're calling out
brands, Green Juju is one of

634
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,520
them that they have pretty
decent levels of Omega threes.

635
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Generally speaking.
That's not a number that pet

636
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,120
food companies are aiming to hit
outside of the 30 to one that,

637
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160
you know, AFCO via the FDA
requires.

638
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,440
So again, generally and you can
still make Green Juju's ratio

639
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,840
better by supplementing.
So like there's room and because

640
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,320
they're not using any fish
currently and in any of their

641
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,320
current recipes, they're not
using any fish because their

642
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,480
current food line that they have
is geared towards dogs with lots

643
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,080
of food sensitivities and
allergies.

644
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,600
So there's no marine life.
Well, no, I'm sorry, that's not

645
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,680
true.
They are using kelp.

646
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,360
So you do have to that that is a
concern for some some dogs, but

647
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,320
I don't know.
I don't know.

648
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,400
I don't is there any?
I don't know.

649
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,920
I would literally would have to
go in a pet food store and look

650
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,280
to see if any fresh fruit food
brand isn't using kelp.

651
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,120
Some valid, but that's a whole
other.

652
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,640
That's a whole other thing,
yeah.

653
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:06,560
So yes, so supplementing Omega
threes to offset Omega sixes is

654
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,520
important for us and for our
pets.

655
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,400
No matter what you're feeding
and knowing what that Omega

656
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,960
ratio is in the pet food that
you're feeding.

657
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,600
If like if you're trying to
reach a certain ratio for your

658
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,760
pet, you that's not something
that is on the packaging, you

659
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,840
are going to have to contact the
company about it.

660
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Green Juju post theirs, which is
why I happen to know that they

661
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,480
have pretty decent ratios in
their foods.

662
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,760
Most pet food companies don't
post it because one, it's not

663
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,880
required and most people aren't
asking about it.

664
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,800
And you have to test.
It costs money to test.

665
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120
And they, I know that Green Juju
does test theirs, but a lot.

666
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,760
Every time you send a sample, it
costs a lot of money.

667
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400
It does, It really does.
So that the brands that do do

668
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,480
it, it's not for any other
reason than they actually care

669
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,800
about the product they're
putting out for your pet to eat.

670
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,960
So we do want to get, as Kara
mentioned earlier, closer to

671
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,640
that one to four or yeah, I
always get it backwards.

672
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,280
It's the Omega to Omega 6 would
be one to four for pets.

673
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,920
And I think, I think it's like
one to five for people, but I

674
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,520
mean. 5 or 6, Yeah.
Yeah, it's so close that like

675
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,360
whatever, just keep it all the
same in my head, just keep it

676
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,720
all the same.
But so if you're actively

677
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,800
trying, like if you were
spreadsheet feeding, bless your

678
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,960
heart.
But if you were spreadsheet

679
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,200
feeding and you're trying to get
that exact ratio, you need to

680
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,360
know what your food is to and
then look at your

681
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120
supplementation on top of that.
But yes, it's the EPA and DHA

682
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,240
that we're looking for.
Anything that you're buying for

683
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,080
an omega-3 supplement, don't all
like what you care.

684
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,760
These are the things that you
should care about.

685
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,760
They are sustainably fishing,
right?

686
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,480
That's something that that I
hope you care about.

687
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,840
They are third party tested for
what's in it and what's not in

688
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,720
it.
So for efficacy or I don't know

689
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,680
what's the word I'm looking for.
So, so that you know what the

690
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,360
actual levels of EPA and DHA
are, but you also know what the

691
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160
levels of things that you don't
like are.

692
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560
So the mercury and lead and
things like that.

693
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,200
For fish oil specifically, I
prefer if you are getting it in

694
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,000
a jar, it is a glass jar that is
tented.

695
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,040
So preferably like an amber or a
dark blue jar.

696
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,400
So we are saving it from oxygen,
light, heat even.

697
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,720
So keeping it like in the back
of the pantry or in the actually

698
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,440
if you're getting a bottle, I
would prefer it be in the fridge

699
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,480
once you open it and then no
pumps.

700
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,920
If you're using pumps, you're
adding air, air oxygenating it.

701
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,560
So it's going to go rancid
faster.

702
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,720
I actually for small dogs
especially prefer just getting

703
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,040
gel caps and puncturing those
because I just don't think

704
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,760
you're going to be like, you get
a jar.

705
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,720
I don't know that you're going
to be able to go through it fast

706
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,560
enough with a tiny dog.
Somebody like you, it's like 4.

707
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,760
I don't know how many dogs you
have, right?

708
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,920
Now.
Big dogs, you're going to go

709
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,840
through it, you know, quick
enough that that's totally fine.

710
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Just get, grab a, grab a big jar
and put it in the fridge.

711
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,800
Somebody like me with 114 LB
dog, like I'm probably going to

712
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,440
wind up throwing the last
quarter of that jar away because

713
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,920
I don't want it in the fridge
for more than maybe three months

714
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
at most.
So those are some of the things

715
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,480
that that you want to look for.
Do you?

716
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,360
I, I, there's, I feel like there
was more and my brain just went

717
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,040
dead.
So maybe you know of more.

718
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,880
No, I mean everything you said
right to like the tinted bottle,

719
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,600
the smallest bottle,
refrigerating it or a gel cap,

720
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,000
which then you don't have to
worry about oxidation.

721
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Because remember, every time you
open it or if you put a pump in

722
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,640
there, every time you open it,
you're exposing it to air.

723
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Air equals oxidization.
I mean, whatever is on top is

724
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160
going to be exposed.
So but if you have a pump like

725
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,480
that's going all the way to the
bottom.

726
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,600
So I don't, I just don't love
that.

727
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,920
Amelie's Rawlife said how do you
feel about a fish oil versus

728
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,640
whole food sources of omegas?
I am 100% all of the time going

729
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,560
to choose a whole Food First if
I can.

730
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,520
And I'll tell you it's also
usually cheaper because when

731
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
you're buying a supplement,
you're paying for some kind of

732
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,880
processing, right?
Somehow it has to be processed.

733
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,920
I absolutely cannot afford to
buy a fish oil for my dogs.

734
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,520
I buy a gigantic 50 LB bag of
sardines once every three

735
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,440
months.
They sit in my chest razor,

736
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,960
which is to my right, making a
buzzing sound, which I'm hoping

737
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,960
nobody can hear and everybody
gets a sardine a day and I feel

738
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,480
good about that or, and that I
think that costs like $150.00.

739
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,840
So like 50 bucks a month in fish
for my three dogs, which

740
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,640
collectively weigh about ��250
versus a $45.00 bottle of fish

741
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,760
oil that would last the three of
them.

742
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Maybe if I was lucky 14 days
right, it would cost double the

743
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,800
price.
So it's but for some people,

744
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,680
there's no choice.
If you live on a you're if

745
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
you're landlocked, perhaps you
don't have access to fish or you

746
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,720
do, but the shipping would be
astronomical to ship it in dry

747
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,320
ice, you know, or maybe you have
like a local pet store and you

748
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,880
have just a small dog like Jess
has her, Kimberly, her little

749
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,280
doggy.
And perhaps you could feed a

750
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,600
freeze dried fish, you know,
instead of having to get fresh

751
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,960
fish because the price is not
that much, right.

752
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
So, you know, it's all about
what you can afford, what you're

753
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,400
sourcing is and what you're
comfortable with.

754
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,840
And I think that just meeting
people where they're at is

755
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,280
really important because it's, I
often feel so frustrated and

756
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,800
guilty that I can't give my my
dogs and my cats everything I

757
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,760
want them to have.
I wish desperately that I could

758
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,360
pour grass fed grass finished
meats and 100% pastured pork and

759
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,640
chicken and Turkey and 100%
organic vegetables.

760
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,440
And you know, I mean, there's
always ways to cut cost somehow.

761
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Now my veggies are 100% veggie
scraps, 100% veggie scraps,

762
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,680
carrot peels, carrot tops, you
know, beet tops.

763
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880
And you get to do.
That because you have improved

764
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,920
your diet, right, Right.
So you're eating those and now

765
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,800
you have the scraps available
for them.

766
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Yeah.
And a lot of people don't even

767
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,320
know how to eat right anymore
because we were not taught how

768
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,400
because the food pyramid is is a
bought chart the.

769
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Yeah.
Companies have paid money.

770
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Lucky Charms are better than
eggs.

771
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,680
Yeah, like, tell me more about
how Lucky Charms are going to

772
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,120
make you healthy.
Oh, it makes me so mad.

773
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,400
So, yeah, the food pyramid is a
joke.

774
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,800
It's a crock of shit.
Yeah.

775
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,400
You can't go by that.
You can't go by what they teach

776
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,600
you in school.
You can't go by what your doctor

777
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,160
is telling you to eat.
So what the hell can you go by?

778
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480
I don't know.
I'm going to just fall into a

779
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000
deep dark hole.
I mean, I'm glad you brought up

780
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,200
the freeze dried fish and the
because that's what I do for my

781
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,240
cats is they get freeze dried
minnows.

782
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,480
And so not only are they getting
the EPA and DHA from the freeze

783
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,440
dried minnows, but they're they
think they're just getting a

784
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,880
treat right.
They're.

785
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520
They're getting Richmond.
It's good for their brain.

786
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,680
They're chewing on it, so it's
good for their teeth.

787
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Yes.
But I also think while we're on

788
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,440
the topic of Omega threes and
EPA and DHA specifically that

789
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,000
it's important to understand
that it's not just about

790
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,760
inflammation that we're looking
at EPA, yes, it helps is that

791
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440
response in the cell to
alleviate and reduce

792
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,800
inflammation when that is
necessary in the body.

793
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,640
But it also, so EPA specifically
like if you're looking at there

794
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,160
are brands that will have like
more EPA and then some that will

795
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:36,520
have more DHA.
So the EPA is having additional

796
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,840
or greater EPA than DHAI think
is better and like senior

797
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,840
animals.
And then more DHA versus EPA is

798
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,880
really great for like puppies
and kittens.

799
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Because the DHA again not only
are we reducing inflammation in

800
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,720
the body, but it is supporting
brain function, nervous system

801
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,520
health and just overall
development of like your eyes

802
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,360
and organs and everything else.
Whereas the EPA having greater

803
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,080
amounts of EPA versus DHA and
senior animals, you're helping

804
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,040
their cardiovascular system,
their joints and again their

805
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680
brain health.
But so we can, even though I

806
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,000
don't love like playing around
with nature so much, like, you

807
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,720
know, just leave it the way it
is in nature.

808
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:22,720
But still, I think if we need
optimization at different stages

809
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,960
of life, especially if you have
an animal, let's say that's been

810
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,440
kibble fed for a long time.
And now they're getting close to

811
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,800
the end of life.
And the pet parent is finally

812
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,280
like, Oh my gosh, I need to feed
my dog fresh food.

813
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,760
And what can I do to support
them?

814
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,840
And they're OK.
Maybe we want a fish oil that is

815
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,880
specifically higher in EPA
versus DHA like we can we have

816
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,880
the ability to to make these
adjustments now, which is kind

817
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,160
of cool.
I almost would counter that

818
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,640
depending on how the cognition
is later in life for seniors,

819
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,240
you may want to lean heavier on
the DHA or even alternate

820
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,920
because, yeah, EPA is great for
cardiovascular health.

821
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,520
It's great for, you know, like
countering malignancies and

822
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,520
stuff like that.
DHA is just makes me think like

823
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,200
brain brain brain.
Yeah.

824
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,120
So, you know, perhaps if you
have a dog with cane and

825
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,400
cognitive disorder or something
like that, some kind of

826
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,360
neurological disease, I don't
know, Parkinson's, seizure

827
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,720
disorder, then perhaps we're
going to lean a little bit

828
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,840
heavier on the DHA.
But as we get older, our cardio

829
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,800
metabolic pathways are affected
and so we want to definitely

830
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,800
support those as well.
Millie's real life said, can you

831
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
ever overdo omegas and cause
inflammation?

832
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,760
Can you clarify, Millie, what
you mean by that?

833
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,480
Because Omega 6100 and we're all
living in that pro inflammatory

834
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,560
state, Omega threes.
I have two things to say about

835
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160
that.
The first is overdoing omega-3.

836
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,560
They're anti-inflammatory.
So it's not that having a ton of

837
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,720
those would make you more
inflamed.

838
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,560
It's that if you throw off that
balance, it can put you at an

839
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,800
increased risk for like bleeding
and you know, because then

840
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,800
you're tamping down your body's
important inflammatory

841
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
functions.
So you still have to be able to

842
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,560
clot and you have to, you know
what I mean?

843
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,200
So yeah, it's all about balance.
So you can have too much omega-3

844
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,840
and it's not it's too to be
supplementing with like I would

845
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,240
call therapeutic doses of
omega-3.

846
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,640
The caveat to that is if you
have a ton of omegas, even if

847
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,440
it's your good Omega threes,
right, you have lots of Ala and

848
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,920
EPA and DHA, you still they can
get oxidized.

849
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,160
So you want to make sure that
you have enough antioxidants

850
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,560
with your Omega threes.
So vitamin E is an antioxidant,

851
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,440
vitamin C, right?
And those are things that can be

852
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,000
harder to find in whole food
sources, unfortunately.

853
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,400
Like that's right.
Also, it's all about balance.

854
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,480
So because if you look at, OK,
seeds are a good example, seeds

855
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,640
are high in vitamin E, but
they're also high in omegas.

856
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Food is balancing itself because
it has both brain.

857
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,760
People talk about oh feed brain
to your animal because it's high

858
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,480
in vitamin E.
Well it's also high in DHA.

859
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,080
It's balancing itself out.
So if you extract specifically

860
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,720
only Omega threes and then pound
it into the diet without giving

861
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,440
additional vitamin E, then you
can have a problem because it

862
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,440
can oxidize and now all of a
sudden your anti-inflammatory

863
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,080
fat that you added to the diet
is not anti-inflammatory

864
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,280
anymore.
That's my caveat.

865
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,280
Yeah.
Well, yes, I'm so glad you

866
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,920
brought up the vitamin E
specifically because when you

867
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,160
are giving omegas at or Omega
threes at therapeutic levels,

868
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,920
that is absolutely something you
don't want to skip, skip that

869
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,920
step with additional vitamin ES.
And also because we have been so

870
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,800
conditioned by the
pharmaceutical companies that we

871
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,840
can pull something out of nature
and supplement that just that

872
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,720
one thing.
Isolate it.

873
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Yes, we do tend to look at
everything in a vacuum and not

874
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,440
how it all relates together, how
it all works together, all the

875
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,480
key factors, all the Co
nutrients and I love that you

876
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,440
said.
That yes, nature does not exist

877
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,000
in a vacuum.
Nothing should except for space,

878
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,800
any other spaces of vacuum.
The other thing I would say

879
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,160
about supplementing Omega threes
is that we can't forget that

880
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,720
this is still a fat.
So if your dog is not fat

881
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:23,560
adapted, you want to go slow
and, and because it is a fat,

882
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,000
there are calories to it.
So we, there are lots of things

883
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,720
that we do want to consider,
especially if we are giving like

884
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,840
therapeutic doses of something
like, OK, we're still giving,

885
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,840
we're giving excess fats to our
dog right now too.

886
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,200
So taking that into account with
with their regular diet is is

887
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,640
going to be in the.
Runs they could get, I mean, you

888
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,400
could even see pancreatitis
because you're just like, if the

889
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,760
pancreas is already stressed and
burnt out, you're in a pro

890
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,200
inflammatory state and then
you're like, hey, I really want

891
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,600
to help you.
Here's the thing.

892
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040
That's anti-inflammatory.
But in order for it to be

893
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,360
helpful, your pancreas has to
work even harder.

894
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,480
And then the body's like, joke's
on you friend.

895
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,760
So you do want to be careful and
start slow and build up.

896
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Don't just you don't throw the
whole kitchen sink at it right

897
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,400
away.
Absolutely Millie's Rawlady for

898
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,000
saying do you recommend a salmon
oil brand and a tinted glass

899
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,240
bottle?
I don't know about you, I

900
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,200
personally don't generally
recommend salmon oil to begin

901
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,560
with.
I also would not.

902
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,920
It's a big fish.
And if you're going to choose a

903
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,240
fish oil, I would get the
smallest fish possible.

904
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,800
So sardine, anchovy, I mean, I
don't know, the jury's out on

905
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,800
krill because it's it's like not
particularly sustainable.

906
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,560
Peter Dobias has a calamari oil,
so you could try that.

907
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560
That's small.
I know Nordic Naturals has

908
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,680
stuff.
I don't know their pet line.

909
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Yeah.
I.

910
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,800
Generally recommend Nordic
naturals.

911
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,640
They have anchovy and sardine I
think.

912
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,040
They haven't.
I believe they have an algae as

913
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,920
well.
I'd have to double.

914
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Check.
I know what's it called?

915
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,440
A Doord Beast has.
It's not Joe Plankton, it's

916
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,920
something else I have.
It and I yeah, they need to.

917
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,360
Think of it, but it's not an
oil, it's a potency omega-3 and

918
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,920
I think it might be on lying to
people and I should check my

919
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,840
facts.
Check out a Dorneys path carry.

920
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,320
They have an oil.
It's called potency omega-3, but

921
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,920
I don't know what the oil is
like.

922
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,880
I apologize omillies for all I
said Krill question mark.

923
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,800
Krill is like the teeniest,
tiniest, littlest itty bitty

924
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,280
fish and it's what whales eat
and they have to eat massive

925
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,960
amounts of it to stay alive,
which is crazy that the largest

926
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,080
mammal in the ocean it's.
The.

927
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Smallest fish, yeah.
So yeah, we.

928
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,280
It is it's they adored bees.
The potency is algae.

929
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Algae, OK, All right, gotcha.
Yeah, but they have a powder

930
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,040
that I that I have been using
recently and I can't remember it

931
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,560
is I stick, I think it's Phyto
Plate, Phyto Synergy.

932
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,840
That's the name Vitosyn I.
Think I have some of that too.

933
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,280
I've been using it for the dogs,
but I think I'm going to start

934
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,600
putting it in my shakes.
But yes, so some resources,

935
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,040
we'll link them as well.
And then, you know, just just

936
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,040
it's OK to question and it's OK
to do your research.

937
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,080
And if you're not sure where to
start, you know, ask somebody

938
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,240
like us, we'll point you in the
right direction.

939
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,280
Because let me tell you, I make
$0.00 doing this.

940
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,960
This is not talking about this.
Do you know what this does?

941
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,800
This puts me right in the
crossfires of companies that I

942
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,680
just mentioned, like just food
for dogs.

943
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,280
Or do you know who else it puts
stuffed Blue Buffalo has canola

944
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,200
oil and SAP, sunflower seed oil,
The farmer's dog, which is all

945
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,760
over the commercials, including,
I'm ashamed to say, the Super

946
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,000
Bowl commercials.
They use sunflower oil.

947
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Look, I am not mad at them in so
far as that they have gotten to

948
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,880
a point where they put fresh
food feeding in front of the

949
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,720
mainstream.
Like if that's what we need to

950
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,160
do to bridge the gap, let's do
it.

951
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Let's do it.
I will say their formulator.

952
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,440
I mean, I'm not, I'm
disappointed with their

953
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,000
formulator.
He could have done so much

954
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,000
better, but it is what it is.
And you know, they needed to get

955
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,720
a product out at a certain price
point for massive amounts of

956
00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,960
people and it's opening people's
eyes.

957
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:02,800
And so in that respect, I'm not
mad about.

958
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,000
But unfortunately, it's also
creating problems.

959
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,920
The amount of dogs that I've
seen come to me with

960
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,360
pancreatitis a few months after
they started feeding.

961
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,560
The farmer's dog is high because
it's full of starchy carbs and

962
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,880
sunflower oil.
And it's putting these dogs who

963
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,440
existed for years on kibble and
we're already in a pro

964
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,440
inflammatory state in exposing
them to even more inflammatory

965
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,120
ingredients.
And it's just, it's the

966
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,920
greatest.
But I am glad that it is at

967
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,440
least making people look at the
commercial and then go perhaps

968
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,360
there is another.
And then I just hope that they

969
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,560
find their way to us.
And then groups like, you know,

970
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,480
Doctor Judy Morgan's naturally
healthy Pets and, you know, all

971
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,040
these different groups that are
just really phenomenal and full

972
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,640
of people who want nothing but
the best for their for your

973
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400
pets.
So yes, it's it is raising the

974
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,840
question so that.
Is it?

975
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Is it?
Is to start somewhere.

976
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,560
All right, guys.
Thanks so much for joining us

977
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,840
today.
I, I will probably put this on

978
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,760
my podcast at some point as well
too.

979
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,240
So yeah, do it.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.

980
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,640
If you still have more
questions, reach out to either

981
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,640
one of us.
And if I don't know the answer,

982
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,120
I will find out the answer for
you.

983
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,640
That's the goal or have somebody
on the podcast who can answer

984
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,280
for you.
So.

985
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Exactly.
If you don't know, you find

986
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,680
somebody who does.
And yeah, stop eating seed oils

987
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,040
and stop feeding seed oil.
And stop eating and feeding seed

988
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,200
oils.
All right, everybody, rest of

989
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,640
your weekend, we'll talk to you
later.

990
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,360
Bye.
Bye.