215. Soulmate Pets and Reincarnation with Lauren Becks and Karen Dendy Smith

0:00 This episode of the pet parenting reset is actually alive from earlier this year that we did on Instagram. I actually did it with Lauren Becks of girls gone raw Pet Health, which you guys are constantly messaging me about her and you want her back on the podcast so much. She's amazing and I love her. We also had Karen Dindy Smith on. So the reason that this didn't go live earlier this year is because this was actually for Lauren's channel and she messaged me and was like, why isn't this on your feed? So it was an incredible conversation. And it's very timely for me because with Karen Dandy Smith, we were talking about like the role that animals play in our lives and a little bit of kind of when our animals pass away. And there was a lot going on.

0:47 And because if you follow me on Instagram, you know that my cat Samantha, who I very affectionately have called Sissy her whole life, we just lost her. I just lost her after 17 years and she was so amazing. I am still tearing up. Just like I can feel the tears welling up in my eyes right now talking about it. But I figured, OK, now must be the time because I just lost Sissy. And it's it just feels like the right time to put this episode up on the feed. And it was an incredible conversation. I don't want to. Talk too much. We talk a lot in the episode. So here it is.

1:28 Lauren Becks from Girls Gone Raw, Pet Health and Karen Dindy Smith from the Animal Communication Collective. Of course, myself, Jessica with a pet parenting reset. And yeah, guys, I just want to mention really, really quickly before we dive in, I want to say thank you to Legacy Biome for sponsoring this week's podcast. If you know anything about Legacy Biome or if you know anything about what I do as a pet health coach, FNT is an important part. It may not be the first thing we do, but it is an important part of what we do to maintain, to establish sometimes and then often maintain a healthy gut microbiome. So stick around to the end. I'm going to tell you a little bit more about Legacy Biome. I definitely want you to check them out, legacy biome.com. But I will tell you a little bit more at the end of this podcast episode about Legacy.

2:20 I'm looking out for Jess. I've never done it with three people, so. Yeah, oops. I got to get myself settled here. Here we go. Darby, I let Darwin come in and join me today since he didn't get to meet you last time. He'll be fucking stuff up. He's the one with like. 42 toes. Oh, he's so doors. Well, why don't you introduce yourself at least we have quite a few people watching Lisa while we're waiting for Jessica. OK, people know Jessica, I've talked to her quite a bit. But give me a little bit of your background or our followers here and all about you. OK, well it's so funny watching. Him.

3:01 Well, it's really great to be here with you today, Lauren, and my name is Karen Dundy Smith. For those who don't know me, I'm an animal communicator, soul level animal communicator, which is a very particular type of animal communication, and also soul level intuitive coach and a Qigong, an energy work instructor and healer through the Pongu Sheng Gong form. And I have a podcast with two of my colleagues, Meredith Tolleson and Julie here called the Animal Communication Podcast, where we talk about all the animal communication things that we've heard from the animals and share our wisdom and their wisdom and answer questions. So yeah, that that's me in a nutshell. And.

3:47 Well, I think it was cool. I guess I never realized that there was so much. Do you want to at school or background training and stuff? Like I feel like my impression of animal communicators was like, you're either born with it or you're not. And it was cool to hear that you discovered that you had this connection and this ability and pursued all that outside training, which is really, I mean, not that you need validity, but it, I feel like it helps. It helps and to kind of hone your craft too. You have to go with the flow of who you are too, right? I'm I'm a person who wants to six be measure my success. And so for me, going back to school to go through a program was the way for me to validate and test what I was getting and to trust that it was real because I had a community to work with and practice clients and test phone calls and on and on and on things like that.

4:46 So for me it was like, OK, the I really can do this so that I felt confident. Yeah, we all. Can do this. Actually we all can do this. It's whether you want to. Like I always say, do you want to learn to do 100 sit ups? Takes practice but everybody has stomach muscles and can do sit ups. I'm wondering if Jessica got because she's an hour behind us. I just realized that this message her though, so hopefully we'll get around here soon. But yeah, no, I agree. I think that, like I said, it's not something that I'm like, Oh well, my animal communicator needs degrees. But it's nice as a consumer to to feel like I'm getting an authentic experience, especially if it's something that we want to make sure that your time is well compensated because that's a lot of work. And I had an absolutely amazing session. I felt bad.

5:36 I just kept you like 2 whole hours. But I'm like I have. So many questions, a lot of being. It was a lot of it was so cool. I left it and I was like, I felt like I just like left a party. So it was, it was definitely a really cool conversation and I have a lot of really cool topics to cover. One of the things I want to cover because it's like as I was talking to people about getting ready for this podcast, and obviously this is as soon as I thought of this, I had been on like countdown mode. I've been so excited for this conversation. So as soon as I knew it was coming, I was just so thrilled to cover these topics. And I'm like, this is something that everybody's really excited about. And of course then my dad's like, I just don't believe in that stuff like you do.

6:22 And I'm like, OK, you know where to rain on my praise. But it's, it doesn't stop me from believing it, but it does, you know, there's a lot of that kind of poo poo energy like, oh, you're going to talk to ghosts. And I just think that that is something that we, we talked about in our very initial conversation of like what gets between us because like you said, everybody's capable of it. And a lot of times it makes, oh, parenting reset. Hey, Jessica's here. Everybody's capable of it. But there's something that kind of gets in the way that makes us believe it's not something that we are capable of here. Let's get on here.

7:03 And that's something I want to talk about too, to kind of start the conversation of maybe how do we prepare our energy. Hey here. We go gotcha. We were just talking about kind of oh, and never for anybody that doesn't know this is Jessica pet parenting reset. She's a bigger deal than I am. I just. No. Conversation I'm just the one that chit chats, but we've talked a couple times. She is the host of the Pet Parenting Reset podcast and personal friend and crunchy crunchy friend. Crunchy something crunchy, yes. So we were just talking about how there's kind of something that stops a lot of people from being willing to accept the kind of soul level connection or like signs from the universe or whatever you want to call it.

7:59 And I know, Karen, you said some good things about that, if you want to elaborate on that. So, and one of the things that stops us is our minds, right? We over think things. It's our ego, it's our perception of the 3D World that we've grown up and being convinced is the way that it has to be to fit in. But the cool thing about it is that when we're really, really little, we come into the world with all of our senses open. And by all of our senses, I mean the 3D senses that we have, that we all talk about, but also we have these other senses which are the same, but on a, on a more energetic level of hearing, seeing, feelings, knowing, tasting, smelling. And we all come in with all of these things, and we don't have the validation that, you know, we would like a lot of us when we're kids.

8:52 And so we learn really quickly that by sharing those experiences that we're having, we get negated. So we shut ourselves down for fear that we're not going to be understood. And that was is one of the things that started our conversation. I think that was actually what made me kind of draw the line and want to do this conversation. As I've told you pretty extensively, I have a four year old and it's hard to tell between like what's just him being cute and attached to a stuffed animal. But then just yesterday it even kind of validated it more. He was inconsolable for a solid 10 minutes because he missed so deeply. The dog I had when I was a child that he never met cried for 10 minutes.

9:35 Penny, Penny. And I'm like, buddy, do you know what Penny looks like? He's like, no, I don't remember, but you know what I mean? I'm like, it's just stuff like that. He is. So he's like, but she's in my heart. She's in my heart. And it's just conversations we have like this that'll go on for like an hour about how then I have to explain that, well, if Leah is your soulmate, he has this really deep conversation to you. The yellow lab that I had in high school and I don't even, it's not even like I talk about these dogs a lot. I don't think I brought up Penny in like a couple months and all of a sudden we're driving to school on the phone with my mom and he's sobbing and I'm like, what's wrong, buddy? I just really miss Penny. And I'm like.

10:15 What the hell? So he feels her. This is the cool thing, right? Like he feels her in her heart. He is aware of her on some level, I will say, or it wouldn't be so visceral. Do you know, if it was a little 4 year old talking about a story, he'd be like, oh, he'd be talking about it from a distance, you know, but he's so wrapped up in it and physically is feeling her presence. So I think that's that's what we talked about the other day was to ask him, what does it feel like when she's in your heart so that you, you as a mom, understand what he's experiencing. And I do my best to open them, asking those open-ended questions.

10:56 But also sometimes he's he's, you know, he's 5. I just did, I call him four. He just turned 5. But you know, and so the best I get is like, well, it feels like she is in my heart. And I'm like, yeah, OK. So then I'm like, I try to ask more questions and I really do my best to not Pooh Pooh at all, right? Because yeah, that's what I've seen all of these videos about people absolutely mind blown because they're 345 year old kid just starts going on a very, very detailed tirade about things that they shouldn't even know about their past life. Well, when I was well before I met you, I was a pirate. And they'll go on these like whole things about things that's no 4-5 year old should even know about.

11:38 And I do think that and I, I believe that young kids are closer to that soul connection because they're closer to the source or whatever you want to call it. And I do agree that that ego, like you said, it's kind of that defensive armor that we build around ourselves to protect ourselves from whatever it is, you know, And I think that that's what stops a lot of us from believing in religion or heaven or whatever. Cuz like, well, you don't want to get your hopes up maybe or whatever it is for you individually. And it's like, or you don't like, you don't look like an idiot by being like, my dog visited me in my sleep and everyone's like, no, you just had a weird dream, you know? And I just think that it's cool.

12:21 To So it's a really hard thing to explain because, you know, I don't know how many of the people watching or will watch later have had experiences as kids. But if I were to ask each of you like what weird experience, we would call it weird as adults, but it's not weird. What experience did you have as a kid that you couldn't explain but was not just you seeing a picture and thinking about someone? Like for me, I had a few things that would happen. I could see like lights around people, you know, auras around people. And I would put my hands on the wall in the in the middle of the night and make like light hands on the wall so I could because I was bored. And I would play with my light hands on the wall before I'd go to sleep.

13:08 And then I would literally lift my energy up out of my body and rock myself to sleep. Astral project. Soothe myself so like it's some almost semi astral projecting. Like I would lift myself up out and feel my own energy and I'd spin it back and forth till I would fall asleep. Yeah, I, I'm trying to think back. That's yeah, that's pretty cool. I feel like I just always was like super ultra connected to my dogs. It was always just my dogs, you know? But that's cool and it's something that I've always believed in. What about you, Jessica? Have you had any? Can you hear me OK?

13:49 Yeah, OK. You know, what's interesting is like what what I'm thinking about as you guys are talking is one yes, I think we see it a lot more in children for whatever reason, like you brought up Lauren, that like they're closer to source, having like been closer, being closer to that time of birth, transitioning from whatever soul plane they're in and into this one. But the first thing that really popped up for me is the the fact that for centuries humanity has gone to such great lengths to suppress the feminine.

14:33 And I think just intrinsically like the, and I don't necessarily mean this in a gender specific way, though I do think generally speaking women are more connected to source than men just because of the differences that we have. Yeah. But I think like that suppression of femininity, of the role that women have and the connection that women have to whatever you want to call it, source or life. Literally females or the, you know, we're the only ones that can bring life into the world.

15:15 And that's something so sacred that I think just that that suppression and in the suppression, especially here in the US and I think in most first world countries, like we suppress very intentionally creativity and imagination and anything that is outside of the realm of how to be a productive member of society and pay your taxes, right, is completely suppressed and, and look down upon. And so I know for me, like even as a very young child being that I'm the oldest. Oh.

16:03 My gosh. And, and I, you know, I'm not saying that every oldest child has the same experience. Obviously we don't, but I do feel like I had a lot of responsibility placed on me at a very young age. And so I definitely feel like I lost connection with that part of me, like the intuitive, like my imagination. And, and it's something that I'm getting back. Like I'm very intentionally, actively trying to reconnect with in, in my adult life. But I feel like it was so suppressed that even to this day, like I am, I'm doing exercises to try to remember my dreams at this point in my life because I went for so long, like either not dreaming or just not remembering what my dreams are. And I think that, you know, to me, that's kind of a more deeper, not a deeper way to look at it. But like, I think it's especially like a reason as to why we we do kind of other the idea of intuition and anything supernatural is because we have been taught for so long that those parts of especially the feminine. Yeah, they've been suppressed very intentionally. And I feel like I said that's

17:35 what actually her and I were talked about and I said it would be something cool for the three of us to talk about on our kombucha podcast. But is I feel like you have the the topic of divine feminine, divine phenomenon, divine masculine is like came in and then very quickly got like adulterated by the mainstream TikTok community and stuff like that. And I'm like, oh, but we were almost there. Like it came in really honestly with the like the crunchy moms and stuff like that. And I think it can be such a strong thing. And I think that'd be a really cool topic to talk about on our other side of things. But yeah.

18:16 And like, you do see, I mean, Karen, do you know any male communicators? Cuz I feel like I have not seen. Yeah, I have not seen. No, I do, absolutely. I do. And you're. The guy that you trained with? Well, animal communicators is different than energy masters or Qigong masters, but although my my teacher Paul Frazier and our teacher Master Owen Way, Master Owen Way is an animal communicator, actually communicates with everything he would say. He communicates freely with great nature and great nature encompasses the planet, the plants, the animals.

18:58 And he has had full on conversations with swarms of bees and asked them to leave the property when people are coming and they do. And he's asked the deer to stop eating his plants and they do. And he's asked the snakes to please don't show yourself on my property when there are visitors because you'll scare them and they don't. And so and I, and we've had experiences when we've watched him and watch the ducks follow him as he's singing along the the river because he's singing to them and they like his song. So it's really it's he's he's incredible. He's he's kind of my mind blowing example.

19:40 Can you guys hear me? I can't. Yeah, I can hear Karen. I can't hear Lauren anymore. No, I can't hear Lauren anymore either. What happened with Lauren? Where'd you go? Well, and I I think just to kind of fill in the holes as I was saying, like, I don't that that whole topic of like feminine and masculine. I don't it's not a gender thing. I think it is. So, you know, having that having that conversation of like, of course, males can tap into source as. Well and do all the things and I think it is something that women are more drawn to in general.

20:23 I would say in this culture, because if you look at eastern culture, it's pretty equal and, and historically has been for thousands and thousands of years. You know, if you look at the Marshall trainings and and the in medicinal trainings, this is all it's, it's it's equal. It's more, it's more about yin and Yang as opposed to male and female, which yin and Yang are male, right? Internal and external fit movement and intern like so containing and releasing. So when you think about that from a, if you want to label those male and female, but have both when we are male, we have both when we're female.

21:06 And it's about cultivating equally both so that you can work with both and keep harmony. So yes, that's really. Weird trying to say. Yeah, you just said it better. Lauren, are you back? I'm back. Is your sound back? Yeah I got like 3 calls in a row and it like muted me and I just had to close everything and get back. OK sorry about that. Hopefully I didn't miss too much, but yeah. So I don't know if you want to if you were in the middle of a topic, but I figured. So both Jessica and I have had readings by you and I thought it'd be kind of cool to talk about some of the things that we kind of got in that.

21:51 I just want to say I thought it was so funny. You came right off the bat. And my cat Marnie was not even, I didn't intend to have her as part of the conversation. And she just kind of like was laying on my lap at the time and refused to go away. So you're like, let's let's see if she wants to talk. And like right off the bat, you pretty much like nailed her. And I was like, not saying anything, not saying anything. You're like seem like with the eyes, I'm having some pain. She's very like got tight boundaries. And I was like, and I just thought that was so funny. I feel like what, what did she say? Something about relegating distance and wanting to kind of gain power by by staying up at a higher part. And so Marnie is my blind cat, and she has a history of kind of sensitivity.

22:43 She's like the cat that I'm like, you know what it's? Just. Better if you decide, all right, it's just better if you just leave her alone, right. And I feel bad because she's like, as soon as somebody walks in the door, she will be the first one there to to greet them. But then if you touch her the wrong way, she's like, hey, you shit. And she'll like bite you. And I'm always like trying to explain to people I'm like, I know, like they're like, well, she wants attention. And I just, I feel like that conversation we had about her, I was like, I because your, your big thing was like no judgement language. Like don't call her a jerk. Don't say she's like, you know, because a lot of people would be like, Oh yeah, she's kind of a bitch. And I'm like, she's not, you know? She has her reasons and this is the, this is the thing that I've learned so clearly from the animals. Every action, every reaction, every behavior, there's a reason behind it.

23:37 There's no premeditated malice or negativity planning going on in their heads the way that we have in our heads. So if she's over stimulated or somebody's energy is too strong for her, which is what we talked about is she'll come up to check everyone out and wants to be in your field and and be around you. But we immediately all of our energy goes hey, and it's like a dagger at her because she's so sensitive because her site is off. So she's her radars are so strong that she over sensitizes the hey, you're so cute and it and it's like almost too much static coming at her, which is why she has to say enough.

24:20 So yeah, yeah, it's, it's really interesting how we we humanize and not a good way our animals behaviors. Yeah, I feel like it's almost like, yeah, the dog people coming in at the cats, and I feel like cats get a bad rap because of that because they have a lot of boundaries. I have a couple cats like Darwin does not know a boundary from, you know what I mean? He has no sense of space. But cats, if you like, get a bad rap because of that. And I know that we all are crazy cat ladies here, but I get a lot of people that I'm like, oh, what kind of pets do you have? And they're like, you know, we have a blue heeler, We have a cattle dog. And then I'm like, any cats?

25:01 They're like, oh, yeah, we have a cat, too. And they just kind of those. Poor cats relegated to the back. I know. And I'm like, well, tell me about your cat. Well, he's just kind of picky. He's just kind of this night. And I think that they get a bad rap because of that. They're so. They can tend to be private. I saw a name the other day that was about like dating advice, but it was like, if a man doesn't like cats, that's the biggest red flag ever because he doesn't know how to respect boundaries. If you're watching this, I'm not kidding. Well, and here's the thing. It's about reading subtlety. With cats, it's every, it's, it's about understanding subtlety. They are so intuitive and they are so attached to energy and spirit.

25:46 Their or their energy bodies are so much bigger than their regular bodies. All of ours are. But they are aware of their edges, so. I thought I said something like on Jessica on your topic, like men hate cats because they have women energy or is it because they have man energy or something like that? They're like sensitive and I I saw very. Spiritual, like I think I told you this or I think I asked you this when I had you on my podcast, Karen, because I for whatever, like I've come to the conclusion that like cats are like are spiritual guides in this world.

26:26 I feel like, and dogs are here to teach us unconditional love And like that's just in my mind. That's what I believe and I I just. But I would. Actually say you're on the right path, but I would say that all animals if they're in your presence and connected to you in any way are teaching you something about what unconditional Love Actually means right. Because there's no job, there's there isn't judgement. And so they operate, they operate from what we would call this place of my teacher Paul Frazier will be so proud of me using the word PO spirit, which it's kind of our essential spirit where we are so very much in tune with the now and what moving with the flow of life. So if you're in real presence and you're holding space fairly and equally and without judgement, then you're really operating from a place of unconditional love. Because no matter what comes at you, whatever somebody does, no matter what they say, if you're in presence with sensing them and not judging them, then you're holding space for them and you're an unconditional love. And so all the all animals operate from that vibration. Yeah, They do it in different ways though. I feel like I could go on a tangent about that. Like why are humans so averse to unconditional love? Is it just the ego that we've built up over time? And then why are animals not

27:58 capable of developing ego? Don't come in with that piece of their of the spirit. They don't carry that as baggage. Don't we do animals like so say you get a pit bull or a rescue dog. I don't know why I singled out pit bulls, but say you get a rescue and then they have that very hard shelf or shell that you kind of have to crack through so you can find that that good dog in the middle. Would you consider that like an ego or is that just kind of like a trauma? Because I think a. Trauma. Yeah. Because ego would. It's not necessarily the ego and what we think of ego. Ego is more I don't want to botch this you know I'm we're talking we're riffing people Ego is I OK I'm strategizing how to operate and manipulate myself in this world.

28:48 So not this doesn't happen to me or so that you can't do X to me or so that I can get ahead about Y. And for an animal, if from our perspective, right, if we get if we get abused when we're kids, it's a terrible topic, but right, we're talking about rescue animals. So they we're talking about abuse on some level from a human perspective. If we get abused, we start to change our perception of the world. And no matter what you say to me, no matter how nice you are to me, I don't believe you. And I carry this with me as part of my identity. So it's really different for an animal who they have had a trauma or abuse in their life and the energy of it has affected them.

29:33 But they also in a place where if you repeatedly show me and you, you, you bring love and energy to me, I will heal and I will let that go and I will not carry it as baggage. You know, that's why we see some and we see some animals, a lot of the ones from rescue who are, you know, have people have the patience to bring out of their shell. You're like, jeez, you'd never know that what they went through three years ago. Look at them. You know, he's so happy and he's he's so happy because he's not resentful of the past. They don't carry resentment the way that we do in our egos. I guess that's a maybe. That's a good way to say it. Yeah, it's a tough one because I, I don't know, I specifically love the dogs that are just like, I don't know why Like is this like a savior complex on my side that I love the dogs like Sunshine that are so shut down and afraid of their own parts because I feel like I have this, I have like a patience for that versus the dogs that are like more reactive and stuff like that.

30:36 I'm just kind of like, I don't know, I don't know here. This is like a different and some people are so good at that and don't have the patience for like mill moms and the really shut down, really submissive dogs. I can work wonders on a submissive dog, but you give me a reactive dog and I'm like, you gotta take it back. I just I can't help you here. I'm kind of reactive too and. Well, there you go. That's probably why you and reactive dot, what they do is they they bring out, they trigger you the stuff that's making you reactive, they mirroring you where because you're you're more of a reactive person and you want to bring out the soft, you want to bring out the soft one. It's it's kind of a nice it's like yin and Yang. Yeah.

31:19 Interesting. The opposite is the tract kind of thing. Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. And I do think that I mean for any of us that have, I guess, and if anybody is watching that feels like they have a type and rescue, let me know what it is and if you think that it has any correlation to your personality. Because I do see myself. I'm like, if it's not injured or if it's not terrified, I don't want it. You know what I mean? And then every now and then they'll be like sweet, little sweet Angel Beagle and I'll get this Beagle and it's like an absolute nightmare. And I'm like, you're not meshing because yeah, Sunshine was like my 22nd foster or something like that. I miss it. So we talked. About sunshine, right? And why? How sunshine came to you.

32:00 Yeah. And yeah, the whole thing I'm just trying to work on. I just keep thinking about patience with her because what did she say? She said I'm just slow or something like that. And I'm like. I didn't even know my own pace. Everything is at her pace. Oh right, she was talking about eating and wanting to eat really slowly and not be bothered when she was eating right? So that's what I'm thinking about, like giving her a separate section off or something, because I'm like thinking about that. Like she eats like a Hoover, you know what I mean? Like just but I think that's the result of coming out of that wording situation. I think that she didn't slurp her food down and as soon as if she's getting into something in the trash, the cat poop, the your food, whatever it is, you look at her, she just eats faster.

32:46 And because I think she she's never three years later, you'd think that she'd feel safe never taken food away from that dog except for well, I yell at her when she's eating my son's dinner that I just made. But I think that's pretty valid. Would she? Is she saying that she wants to be able to eat slow? You know what I mean? Yeah, she doesn't want to have to guard herself while she's eating. Yeah, cuz she's like this big and is she smaller than my cats? Honestly, she's not that she's normal, but she's smaller than the cats and even like the cats will try to come get her food and. So can you see why she's like, I just, I want to be, I want to eat at my page. About. Would she, would she be OK if you like put her in her in a crate to let her eat in there So she's just like doesn't?

33:33 Like about putting her like in my room so that she can take her time. I'm just afraid that she'll like poop in my room while she's out. I know because usually like they're they're both old and scarlet. If you don't let her out, like, immediately, as long as that last bite goes in her mouth, she's peeing. And so I'm like, everybody immediately goes outside. Sunshine wanders her way down to Wilder's room and poops on his cute little rugs. No, she'd probably be fine. But that's what I have, a elevated bowl, kind of one of those, like, pedestal bowls for cats that we're going to try with her. I've just been kind of propping it up on a Tupperware because that's what she said. She wanted the bowl to be raised because her neck was hurting and she wants to eat slow. Yeah, and I thought that was cool too, that the the soul level connection because I was like, and another thing that really wanted me to get here and we'll kind of get more into the like soul mates.

34:29 I don't feel like in the at least in the way that we would think of. I don't do. Can you have multiple soul mates? I don't know. I feel like when we think about it, you think you can only have one. So I was like, well, she can't be my soul mate because I think Belle was my soul mate and I feel very strong about that. And Bell was, yeah, it was, it was almost exactly year to the date. I didn't know at the time that Bell would pass away. And I had seen a picture of Sunshine. I had another. I had that annoying Beagle, God bless her foster at the time. And my rescue that I was working with had posted and this is only I just started fostering like maybe a month before and they had pulled 10 dogs from a case in Scioto County by us out of a House of 30. And I saw a picture of this greasy little dog in the back. Like I think I barely even saw a profile of her. And I was like.

35:23 Who's that? Black 1 you know what I mean? Like there is something that was a laser beam to her. And I was like, I had like a 2 year old at the time and was living at my parents house and you know, starting a small business is not big money. So I was at the absolute most uncomfortable place to adopt A dog, which is why I was fostering, let alone an A senior dog with known health issues. And I just had this like laser beam connection that as soon I had to get that dog and I like just like couldn't wait to go visit her. And she crawled in my lap right away and she was so grubby and scabby and greasy. And then I was like, I need this dog. So I, like, moved all sorts of stuff around, got her as a Foster and immediately was like, Oh my God, I'm so obsessed with her. She's the most perfect baby Angel. And then I ended up adopting her. I was looking at photo stamps, that or time stamps on photos. I adopted her like, exactly a year and one day before my chocolate lab, who I believe is my soul mate, or at least, you know, passed away.

36:24 And I don't think that I could have made it through that if I hadn't had that time to develop that bond with Sunshine. Because yeah, Belle was my, like, she was my rock, you know? And we had a lot of really cool conversations about Belle. And I am not going to cry this time, but I just think it's cool because then you think like, well, she can't be my soul mate because my soul mate was still alive. And so I thought that would be kind of something we can talk about a little bit. So what we call like the string theory or something like that. And I love the like diagram that you told me kind of little Venn diagram of.

37:05 Yeah, it was really, it's really cool. And the first time I saw it, I think I was reading somebody's cat and they're talking about their other lives. And they showed me this diagram where they were this ball of light and they were in spirit already. And so they were looking at, I don't know if they were actually. No, I think they were in spirit. And they were showing me this ball of light that they were, which is their essence, right? Your soul's essence, that the, that spark, I'll call it that travels out. Yeah, kind of like that. And they saw themselves in all of their different iterations of existence in attached to each ring as it went out from them in like 3D.

37:51 And then they showed me how each of our lawn, each of our sparks has this and then intersects in these crazy intersections where we're supposed to meet up to have lessons learned. And in the center of all of these rings of light that are going all over the place like this is your true essence. That is looking at the Karen experience, though, when I was the painter in Venice experience, when I was, you know, The Cave woman woman experience. And when we go back to what they say wholeness, it's like they can see and understand. We all actually can see and understand like our our fullness and for our.

38:31 People that are watching here, we're kind of talking about like cycles of reincarnation. So you have, I'll bring up my little rough drawing here that you know, like it's a good little drawing. Your soul basically is your, your spirit. And then these are kind of the the levels of reincarnation and eventually you'd intersect with those other souls as they are in their lives. Hundreds and hundreds of those intersects intersecting like that in the in like space. Yeah, I just think that's so cool. I've not been able to stop thinking about that. And, and I just think that that's so cool. Reincarnation was one of those things because I mean, I was, I was raised staunchly Catholic and it was like world religions class.

39:15 And they are definitely very sorry for any Catholics on here, but very anti animals in heaven. And I was like, I'm not going then. I'm going wherever my dogs go and drop me off at the Rainbow Bridge. Lauren I So I was bounced back and forth between Pentecostal and Baptist churches when I was younger. And I, that is one of my core memories is talking to one of my like Bible study teachers when I was like, I had to have been like 8 years old. And she was teaching the all these little kids in Sunday school about, you know, going to heaven and all these different like levels and that she said animals, our animals were not there.

40:01 We're where we are in heaven. And I went up to her and I said. I like, I remember for this so clearly I was like, there aren't animals in heaven. And she said, no, no, you don't. We don't. We don't need them. And I was like, well then I don't want. To go to heaven and I remember. Like 9th. Grade Old Testament class, Brother Tom. And they they were, they were on the topic of how animals don't go to heaven. And I stood up and I said, you're telling me that if dogs don't go? And I got up and I left class. Yeah, praise go. Well in Catholic school, it was a lovely Catholic school, I will say. But I got up and left because I was like, I just have a hard time with that. Yeah. So that's where.

40:42 How who are we to say honest to honestly, no matter what I what I'm getting from an animal is what my human sized capacity of expansion can handle, right? So that's why I would never say that even though I'm getting what I'm getting, that I'm the end all be all because you, you, Steve, like we get these tiny little peeks behind the veil, right, of true creation. Whatever you want to think that is. I don't know what that actually is, but whatever you want to think it is, we get these tiny little glimpses. And to say that it we know best or that that's the way is crazy. Yeah, and that's always been something I had a hard time with because I'm like, to me, reincarnation and thinking about that, maybe maybe it's just my optimism.

41:31 Maybe it's just something that I wish is true because I think it sounds great. You kind of learn a lesson and then maybe you get to go back and and live that lesson the next time. But also, I don't know, it's just something that is always, it's been as true to me as breathing air, you know what I mean? And that's not ever something that I've second guessed. And it's hard, obviously having that question. I don't want to get too into religion because I don't want to get cancelled here. But it's just, I have a lot of yeah, I have a lot of feelings on that because, yeah. How do you know? And all I know is that I have felt this connection to these animals and and I we can can go to the kind of like soulmate thing.

42:18 Now, I don't think that I knew that Belle was my soulmate. She was just like, she was just my special little dog. And I wish I could pull the picture of her, but the time of her passing. So it was, gosh, I had just met my now partner and, and I think I told you this is This is why what you said kind of like all clicked in. I just met my partner after years of kind of tumultuous, really just trying to find myself and messing up and then learning lessons and messing up and learning lessons. And she was just kind of that like stable kind rock there for me the whole time. And like I used to have crippling panic attacks. And so she lived with me for a couple years as my like emotional support dog.

43:09 You know why I quote? Because, like, I don't think I could have done it without her. And I learned so much from her, even through her cancer and her sickness. This company exists because of that dog. Yeah. Because I mean, I exist in this iteration of myself in this profession because of my cat hockey puck so. Yeah, and the people that don't see dogs, I guess though, or at least even pets the way that we do would be like, that's so silly. But honestly, screw you because that's it's, it's I know that I would not be where I am today without that dog, or at least without, you know, her kind of holding me together throughout the times I need her because I had her from like 16 to 20 because maybe 2829. And that was the craziest couple years of my life, you know, going through an abusive relationship and then leaving, having to learn how to be myself, having to learn, really try to find my purpose.

44:06 And then I feel like I've really just fallen into routine and things were just starting to get good. And then she developed a cancerous tumor and everything just kind of went really quickly from there. Not really long enough that I had time to kind of deal with this situation in the healthy pace, I think, and even the whole process of her passing, I feel like I learned so much because all I want to do now is help people achieve that kind of peace with their dogs. I know that's not always dogs, cats, horses, you know, that's not always possible. But I very much looking back at him like, God, it's almost like she got me to the door and she was like, hey, you're good.

44:53 I'm chills thinking about it. And that was one of the things that you said, even without even really getting to that, you said, like she said, it was time to move on. We will again. And I really just got chilled. Now. I know I really just got that feeling that like she was like, hey, you're good now, you don't need me. God, I'm going to cry again. And it's, it's one of those things that it's hard to understand unless you have lived those exact experiences. But I also have gone through and I'm like, I'm not, I'm going to see her again in some form. And it wasn't something I, I feel pretty strongly that it's not like I wish I could have her back. I wish I could have her back.

45:39 Yeah, obviously I miss her, but I just felt like we were, we had that string, like we've been together through lives. We're supposed to find each other. I was supposed to be at that event with this. If I hadn't had Leah, then we wouldn't have been at that dog diving event where I would have met her litter. And then we adopted her that day, you know? And that's really what drove me. That and the combination of my son being so fixated on all these past dogs of mine that drove me to want to have this conversation because I feel like so often people are like, oh, she's my soul dog, my heart dog. But then if you try to like, take it a little bit deeper, you get a little poo pooed on. And I feel like I think I mentioned this to both of you, it's almost like I want to be able to give permission to people to think deeper into that and maybe follow like pull that string into the dark a little bit, you know? Like why?

46:32 The question is like, why, why is, why is this particular animal your soul baby or your heart baby or your, you know, your guiding light? There's, there's a real reason there. So and what they're doing for you, you must, you need, you know, whether whatever kind of behavior they're taking on so that you have to take care of yourself better or be more conscious or feel more loved or feel more seen. There's something that they're doing for you that you desperately need and that you're syncing up at the perfect time so that you can also evolve and grow. And I think that for anybody that's on here, for anybody that listens to this, if you feel like you have an animal that you had or currently have that kind of connection with, take a second to think about what lessons have you learned from that animal?

47:23 What, what coincidences have there been, if there have been any? Because I know for me there was a lot. And one of the first things you said to me was there are no coincidences. And I really believe that. And I don't want to go too deep in it because it's not my story to tell. But even my brother-in-law had passed away from a sarcoma in his leg. And then his dog who was very much his like twin flame, as far as I've heard, passed away from a very similar cancer also in her leg. And I'm like, that's not coincidence. And I don't think it's the bad thing. I don't think it's, I, I think a lot of times we get stuck in the, in the suck of the transition.

48:08 Yep. But if you, if you think about it, it's, I think it's, it's not that bad, especially if you think about like that was just the end of this lesson. Now we move on to the next chapter, kind of things like that. And that's why I like trying to help people work through passing of pets. And to me, it's not a depressing conversation. Nobody seems to want to talk about it, but I think that there's a lot of beauty in it too, especially if you can take the time to think about what lessons you've learned from that animal and what they've done for you through your life. And I got real deep, but I think the way. You're honoring them, right, with thanking them for embodying and aligning with you so that you guys could have these experiences in this particular moment.

48:57 So yeah, you can. Of course we're sad because we're here and they're not anymore, right? There's this, there's this division that happens because they exist now on a plane that we we don't, we don't have full access to while we're here. So we do miss them. And that is really sad when there's no getting around that no matter how much you know, whether you can speak to them, feel them, see their auras, even though they're not in a body, you're still missing the 3D experience. And that, you know, having that grief is just part of this actual learning in 3D is to have that grief experience as well. But you can honor them at the same time, which is which is what you're saying. And that helps with the grief.

49:38 It helps with why it was time for them to let go or be come free again. Or because they never say I'm dying to me. Honestly, they've never used those words. Yeah, like you said, it was just it was time to go. It's time to move on. And Jessica, I was going to say feel free to butt it. And I feel like we just. Yeah, you get a lot of. Ground up too, Jess so. Well, I find that comforting, the idea that it's not like gone forever, right? That, that in some capacity we each helped each other.

50:22 And I think so when Karen, you did a reading for me, for my cat Romeo, who was alive at the time and he has since passed. And it was, there were so many things from that session that has stuck with me. The one thing, and I don't think I've told you this, at the time, you said something about his back leg bothering him, but, and I completely dismissed it because I'm like, he's fine. There's nothing wrong with him. And a few months later it is when he he broke his leg and that's when I found out he had osteosarcoma.

51:10 And so that was like in that. Moment when I standing my notes. Yeah, when I found that when I took him to get the X-ray, I, which by the way, was not an easy thing to do. Nobody wanted to X-ray him. It was crazy. But I found a vet that would do it. And I, he pulled up the X-ray in front of me and I looked at it and he was like, he didn't know how to tell me that my cat had osteosarcoma. But I'm looking at this X-ray and like, tears started to come down my face and I'm, I'm looking at it as not a veterinarian. And I'm like, Oh my God, he has osteosarcoma.

51:50 And I'm, and, and the, the vet just shook his head at me. And so that was like, oh, my first of all, Oh my gosh. Now everything that I was already feeling from that session that we had together, I, I felt like, almost like it was OK for me to, to believe it and have all these feelings because I had something physically come of it. So I wanted to mention that just in case there are people that are still like, I don't know, like, and, and that's your right to think that this stuff is all woo woo and you don't, if you don't want to accept it, don't accept it.

52:32 That's, you know, part of your journey. But the thing that stuck with me more than anything was how you described him, because you told me that his soul was so big that it couldn't fit inside of his body and in the cat body and the 3D. And so the way you saw him was like this giant soul being almost dragged along by this tiny little cat body. And that to me was like an epiphany like that. That was him in a nutshell. Like I couldn't pinpoint that before the conversation we had, but he was always like larger than life if that made.

53:18 You know, it's funny you say that because I remember. It's funny when I'm reading. I don't remember what I say afterward because it's really, it's not me. I'm I'm telling you what they I'm being told. But I do remember you saying, yeah, he may not want to talk to you because he's, he can be difficult. And I thought, and he did make me wait when we first connected, I had to sit back and wait and actually kind of give him like give him some respect. And that's when he got really big. And I thought, oh, people aren't maybe the people who've tried to connect with him haven't sat back and and seen all of him. And he didn't want to speak to you if you weren't seeing all of him.

54:01 And it was really an interesting experience. I do remember that when I sat back and all of a sudden I was like, whoa, he's really big. I remember saying that to you. Yeah. Yes, because everybody that I had, I had tried to get to connect with him prior to you. He physically would like walk around the room and spray during like while other people were trying to were trying to connect with him. He did not like it. Oh my. Goodness. But he didn't do that with you. So and I was like, I was on edge, honestly. So I'm like watching him the whole time as we're, as you're connecting with him and I'm like, Oh my gosh, is he? Because he was kind of like he was walking around the room for probably a good 1520 minutes of the, the start of the session before he settled down.

54:52 And I was like, oh man, is he going to spray? Yeah, he was bringing me through the paces, you know, making sure that I was on on point with letting him tell me. Tell me as opposed to me trying to tell him, you know? Yeah, yeah. But I think what I've gotten out of most of the animal communication sessions that I have been through and I maybe, you know, every animal is different. Every human is different For me, I feel like almost all of my animals that I've had somebody connect with, I learn a little bit more about how spiritual our connections are. It's not just, oh, this is a responsibility that I have in this lifetime, which is true.

55:47 Like, don't get me wrong, It's it's it's a responsibility to have a pet, but just that they are so spiritual. And I even have one cat that I actually had another animal communicator connect with. And I feel like my job in this life was to give her space because she, my understanding is that like her in this lifetime, her role, she has been going out into other dimensions and doing work and other dimensions. And so it has been my job and my responsibility to keep her safe on this plane while she is out doing all of this work that she needs to be doing, which may sound.

56:33 Totally crazy. That Sure, that's amazing. What's What's this cat's name? Samantha, I call her Sissy, Sissy Sissy. Samantha, that's awesome. Yeah. But then you and your podcast hosts also recently connected in with my dog, Claire. That passed. Many years ago. Oh yes. And even though that was really, really quick, that was like a 5 minute thing that was for the podcast. I was just blown away by how accurate everybody was. Like nobody knew anything. I didn't even know going into the podcast which animal I was going to ask to connect with. And during that quick 5 minutes, it was like the fact that she was read, the fact that she was a Pomeranian, like all of these things came up and I'm like, you couldn't have known. None of the three of you could have known any of them. And Claire?

57:34 Bear right? I think I remember. Here, Claire Bear say on Claire Bear, yes, I called her Claire Bear, yes. That's how I felt. About. With Belle, was it right off the bat? Like, I mean, it was the first thing, you know, you took some time to try to kind of connect with her and then like right off the bat, you just said, I'm so proud of you. And I sobbing because it's one of those things that I kind of say to myself as an affirmation as I go through this career and connect with people that I wish I would have known previously. But I spread the the the information and stuff that I've learned about her and I kind of grown up as a person. I kind of tell myself I'm like, I really feel like she'd be proud of me.

58:20 And I feel in my heart that she'd be proud of me, which is, you know, like I said, if you don't have that deep connection to dogs, that might sound silly, but I really feel like she'd be proud of me. So you said that and I wanted to throw up because I was like, my God, that's the best thing you could have said. And then, yeah, just the the description of her is like a mother energy was just, I mean, everything like that. And that was that was just really cool. Yeah. That was a really cool conversation. And I loved feeling that. So it was kind of like everything I think I wanted to hear about this dog that was so special to me and that I want to vomit every time I look at pictures of her because I miss those soft ears so much.

59:03 But yeah, I was just just so cool. And I think that I lost my train of thought, but well, one of the one of the kind of takeaways we had from that was to embrace the connection, let go, allow experiences and follow. So I said sometimes like a let yourself find that if you've always been like if you think that you have your soul dog or just a dog that's put into your life at a dog, a person, a cat, a horse, a bird that's put in your life for some reason. Kind of let yourself think about it. And maybe you could give some tips on how people can kind of try to get deeper into that. I spend a lot of time practicing like mindfulness and meditation. So that's not something that's very hard to me to try to narrow down kind of where I'm at and see if you can kind of grab that string and pull on it a little bit and see where things are trying to take you if something really crappy happens. I.

1:00:07 I think I told you, like I've gotten to a point now where I realized the universe was like knocking on the window, Like, hey, listen to me. Like. Chucking bricks at me, I said like metaphor, spiritual bricks at me. And I was finally like, oh, OK. And so I started to listen to these things and now I've been brought in this path where I just feel so fulfilled. And it wasn't all nice, but I feel like I've learned so much. And I think that just taking the time to kind of simplify your intentions. And I'm like, I don't, I don't have the words for it. And try to find that like spiritual string and kind of tug on it. Figure out what you're being pushed towards, see what experiences you're being guided towards that might be trying to teach you that lesson or that purpose that you're here for.

1:00:57 And I just think that that was such a cool take away from it. Embrace the connection, let go, allow experiences and follow. And I just think that that's so cool. I yeah, I guess I would, I would just say, you know what comes to finding your finding your animals, right? We don't, you know, we can decide. I don't know where I'm going with this, but you know, we can go, oh, I'm going to go get a dog, right. It's time for a dog. But the fact, say you even have that as a thought in your head is not just you.

1:01:38 But yeah, and if we can just. Allow ourselves a little bit of a broader viewpoint on these things to think that we aren't the we aren't the end all be all decision makers. We are part of a receptive path. When we are, we do have free will. Of course we have free will. You could be standing there and go, am I going to eat that barred chocolate or am I going to drink that cocktail or am I going to go eat that apple? That's free will, right? Yeah. But there's also the the path of even while we're doing something, the thing that we're experiencing may not be we didn't necessarily How do I say this create it ourselves. It's part of our souls agreement to have a certain lesson or experience and it's a manifesting in a certain way or a certain moment, including the idea that it's time to go get a dog or it's time or cat shows up in your backyard or the one who stares at you from behind everyone else like sunshine. You get honed in on.

1:02:42 That's, that's not just because you, Lauren, happened to be the type of human being that wants to save the meek and mild, right and help give them a voice, because that's, if you look at that, that's also part of you. It's because the sole new, the sole agreement you had with Sunshine. We talked about a past life, which I'll let you share if you want. But this agreement you have with Sunshine, there's no way you wouldn't have seen her because you were trust you were in an experience of being guided even though you thought it was. So it it's almost like all the pegs line up and we go. Well, and Canon, Canon, I don't know if he's still on here, but we were just talking about that.

1:03:28 And like, it's, it's, I would not have liked him and he would not have liked us if we hadn't gone through a couple experiences and kind of things to get us exactly where we need to be. And it just is one of those things that I'm like, it's. Just a little bit too. Coincidental, the timing of everything and basically to simplify all of that, I do fully believe, and it sounds like you do too, that everything happens for a reason 100. Percent. And sometimes you it's, it's a giant ball of suck and you're like, why does this reason have to be happening? But then I think once that kind of smoke clears, then you have to think on it a little bit and figure out because there's something and maybe it's setting you up for the next thing to happen.

1:04:11 You know what I mean? Has to knock you down. Some things happen for reasons that are beyond our comprehension at the moment, right? Like I don't know why I didn't know why a 20 sit 28 when I threw a Frisbee, I was going to compress 2 of my discs in my back, 20 years old, totally fit, compressed 2 discs in my back, right? But it there was a trajectory that happened because of it and I made different choices because of it and I learned different things because of it, right? So when I look back, I get hindsight's 2020 for sure. So you can kind of look back on things and say, wow, yeah, that's, I can see where I zigged and zagged, but I still ended up. Definitely feel like.

1:04:57 To learn right? Yeah, I, I have a lot of that in my life, for sure. It could, Oh yeah, could, could knock me down. It could give me excuses as to why I should pity myself and why, you know, a lot of people don't make it out of stuff like that. But I was always like, OK, I have to do this for some reason. It's fine. We'll just keep looking upwards and kind of a little string off of that that I want to bring up because I know we're all crazy cat ladies. Here is the cat distribution system. Yes. Why do I get distributed so many cats? There's 4 cats.

1:05:40 There's so many cats. Darwin was the last one, and I said I won't even touch another kitten. Like what is he doing back there? And he's so funny. But we have so many cats and luckily they're lovely cats. But we had brought that up and you had never heard the term before. But I'm like, cat distribution system just hit me hard. You don't like go out and if you want like a main Coon or something like that, but most people you're like, oh, this is fluffy. I found her under a downspout -3 of her legs and now she's a sweet Princess baby. And that's kind of how Darwin was. And all of my and I'm like, well, they're just this is these are my cats. No. I mean, I have to say yes, the cat distribution system, now that I understand the language, has been distributed through me too. I mean, my first cat Dusty in college, we found under a car outside of our apartment.

1:06:32 And then she reincarnated and came back to me as hockey Puck, which we found in the middle of a divided highway in the middle of the night, tied to dreams that I was having from about finding her, then turned into him. So, you know, there is. It's really. Yeah. They they find you the one they're supposed to. And then Notay and Dia, of the ones I have now, which you guys probably see on Instagram, hockey puck is the one that guided me to them. So there's definitely a distribution system going. On Yeah, Yeah. Well, and I have to I mean, I know we're already over an hour, but I just to kind of for me kind of tie up this whole idea of spirituality.

1:07:18 I think like for me and, and animal communication has been a part of this. But if I am definitely going through a tower moment in my life right now. And I don't think that I don't know if I would have been strong enough to do what I needed to do to choose myself if I hadn't, if I hadn't have started this spiritual journey that I did a couple of years ago. And animal communication has just been a part of that, like being tapping into how these animals have chosen me and my role in their current existence and their role in my current existence and under starting to understand soul contracts and all of these things.

1:08:15 I don't know that I would have been strong enough to be where I am now. 100% I know I and I know what you're talking about and lots of love to you and you're so strong. You know, you're so strong and our animals really do support us in our spiritual journeys. That's that's one of the amazing gifts when we take in animals and we really see them as partners. They really elevate our spirits, you know, and give us, help us see ourselves in the best light. We start to see, we start to see pieces of ourselves that they know are there, that they, that's why they love us unconditionally, because they see our essence and they help us see our own essences, you know, and our own strengths because we wanted to do it for them. Right.

1:09:06 Initially, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we do it for ourselves. You see like animals as spirit guides through so many different cultures around the world. And same with like the concept of reincarnation, same with like twin flame or or string theory. See so many different iterations and that is so many cultures around the world. And I'm like, you can't make that up. There's a lot of threads weaving together. Of yeah, yeah. And same with like and for for the people that like absolutely nae nae the and I don't blame them the idea. And also if anybody has any questions or anything with Karen before Karen or Jessica, before we close up or anything, put them in the the comments and we'll try to cover stuff.

1:09:51 But you can't deny the fact that even the most genius of physics physicists and we covered this. There is an energy field of vibration and you know everything like that to everything that lives period. And that's if you want to deny the a psychic connection and and or reincarnation, like I understand that. But you can't deny the the energy in all of us and the fact that many animals and people and and things throughout the world have the ability to pick up on that. So I don't think it's that much of A stretch to say that certain people are closer to that.

1:10:39 And you and I were talking about like the the telepathy tapes. I think it's absolutely so magical. And I'll bet it's the same thing as like, if you lose your sight, your, your, your hearing becomes more attuned. And if you lose control of your body, then your mind's going to become more attuned. And even the government now employs psychics, whether you want to go down that conspiracy theory or not. But that's been confirmed. But if you look at OK, let's let's talk men who stare at ghosts, that movie with some of my most favorite actors ever in that movie, all in one movie. I'm like, Oh my God. But that is a spin off that is a bit of a satire around a true program that we have had in the United States sit Oh my God, since the Fifties, 60s and 70s when and it's it's based.

1:11:28 You can read about it in a book called The Field by Lynn Mactaggart, where she talks about this program I think was called Stargate, and where they they actually brought military people to certain military people together who had a sensitivity to intuition and trained them to be psychic spies because Russia was doing it. And we needed to be able to train our military men to seek remote view where bombs were being stored and things are being done and people were being held hostage. They also were working on psychic warfare where you could actually focus in on someone else's heart and actually target energy into their heart and try to assassinate them. And psychically.

1:12:18 The weird thing is though, is if you agreed to do that part of the work, you also ended up with a heart heart attack. In the end. Your heart was weaker because you were using it to hurt other people. But this goes back for thousands and thousands of years to something called Thousand Mile Eyes, which comes out of Chinese philosophy. So and practice in martial arts. So yeah, it's real psychic warfare and psychic remote viewing is a real thing. And it is part of the government and always, it always has been. And it's, she writes about it in her book. We're we're wanting to do what the animals are already doing, which is they can sense across miles when a storm is coming. They know which direction someone went miles and miles away.

1:13:05 If they are really honed in, they can talk to each other in separate buildings. So we're learning to do what they we lost by doing that. Yeah, well. It's tough. And I think I mean the the what I started out talking about how we have spent so many hundreds, thousands, even years suppressing intuition and kind of a more feminine nature. That same thing. We have disconnected from nature in general. Like, I mean, there are people who live in high rises who when's the last time they touched dirt or grass, right?

1:13:55 Like that's where. That's what my favorite Gen. Z thing right now. Go touch grass. Yes, please stop. Stop eating tide pods and go touch grass like that's and, and so I think the more we get back to how we are supposed to be living as humans, the more we can get back to the intuitive parts of ourselves. Because and, and I, I think, I personally think it's very deliberate that we have been conditioned and indoctrinated to, to, to not be connected to nature, but, and that's, that's a whole other thing. I can't wait to cover that.

1:14:43 With you from the hospitals. I mean, it's like I'm not exactly here like wishing I had a home birth because that I think it's terrifying but how far we've gotten from that. They like immediately take them and you wash all the, the, the biological stuff off and wrap them in a polyester blanket immediately, you know, and I think that from the beginning, we've just gotten so far away from our nature. And, and I think we're kind of, there's at least a sub sect of, of the world that's starting to get back to that starting to grow your own food. And, and I, you know, in my realm, I think there's a lot of respect in the food cycle. And I think that one of the the, the best things you can do, I want to say best, one of the most respectful things you can do is have to, this sounds really brutal, but take the life that you're consuming. Like I think that there's a lot of honor behind hunting. I used to hate it.

1:15:36 I used to think I'm like, what are you just going to stalk an animal down in its home? I think that the process of stalking and going to the process of taking the lives like Native Americans would, but they would like say, thank you for your sacrifice and using the whole animal. I think there's so much honor in that because that's really getting us back to our root biological cycle. And I just think that's kind of a cool thing. That's a whole other thing that I think would be really cool to talk to Karen about because I know I have heard a lot of more spiritual people and especially animal communicators say that they can't eat meat anymore once they connect to animals in this way. And I agree with you, Lauren, that granted, I'm not an animal communicator, but I completely agree with like, no, I am not OK with hunting for sport, but like that can that we have lost that connection to how how we sustain ourselves as human beings. And like, that's a very natural thing. We are supposed to be eating both plants and meat. And like it's, it's part of the natural life cycle. So I, I mean, we don't need to talk about that right now, but that would be a really well, you know, come back to you. The Movie.

1:16:56 That's a whole nother topic. We'll wait for another day of that one. I think the movie Avatar is like covers that so well. I'm like, Yep, everything's interconnected by in, in that, you know, in that movie, obviously it's like a sci-fi thing, but there is an interconnected cycle. And I have a heavy biology and ecology thing, and that is one part of that collapse and everything starts to get a little wonky. You know what I mean? Like if you miss one screw out of your car, something's going to be a little wonky. And I think that we've just disrupted that ecological cycle and we're kind of in the way of getting back to that right now. And I think it's a cool kind of process. We are done. We should probably start to close up, but is there anything? Else we want to cover anything else. We want to do before before we go. I guess I would just say for my part on the at the end of this is take a breath with, if you're not doing it already, take a breath with your animal family members and look into their eyes directly and just share appreciation for their efforts to accommodate living in our world. Because left to their druthers, right, left to their way of being, their most natural way of being, they wouldn't they. And granted, yes, is it better for is it safer for cats? Sure, Dogs get like sleeping

1:18:27 under blankets, yes. But besides those comforts, they literally are constantly trying to figure out how to communicate with us because they are living in our world and we have absolutely made them feel that way. So construct which means we are absolutely in control of everything. And remember how gracious they are in allowing us to be in control of when they go for walks, when they get to relieve their bladders, what they get to eat, when they get to sleep, when they get to be in our presence, when they are too over stimulated. We they have literally agreed to be in our world in that case domesticate for us. So to have some gratefulness for them and just to say thank you and try to see things through their eyes once in a while, just watch what happens it.

1:19:21 Really does shift the. Energy and focus between us in a way we you will see them differently, I think kind of on that topic too. That's what I love to tell people to. Remember, thank you Nos Lee for saying that, for thank for that remind you. We lost your voice again. We lost her. Voice again. She missed it. No. No, just got a call again. Yeah, she. Got. Disrupted because we. Get to talk more now. No, I think giving them back little senses of. Of their true nature, things like like I do with rabbit fur and and stuff like that. Just a little bit that lets them use that parts of their instinct I think is really important because yeah, we do force them into our sterile tide scented homes, give them a little bit of their natural stimulation back and things like that. So just yeah, giving them the respect back that they are. Working really hard to figure us out and that we can do that too. Yeah, I wish we had time to do a quick reading or something, but. Maybe we'll have to do another one. Yeah, we'll do another conversation. I feel like I could talk about this forever. I didn't even get to talk about sunshine and eyes history. I almost want to talk about that. There was, I'm just going to do a really quick sunshine. And so she's a little dog that I felt like I had that really deep Connect fan with.

1:20:51 And she's this like little delicate Princess, like can't jump over barely a doorstep. You had gotten like a really clear vision of her. And I as like a hunter and a deer tracking dog, specifically a black and white speckled maybe hound dog or or setter or something. And sunshine. I adopted her when she was maybe 10 or 11. And you said that in that past life we were a team and we had hunt together and everything. But then something happened where she got lost and I didn't get to see the end of her life or I never found out what happened to her. Maybe she died, maybe something like that. And so now she's coming back so I can experience that end of her life again and I can make up for what I didn't get to do the first time or something kind of like that. And I was like, interesting.

1:21:47 My little delicate Angel baby dog, A Deer Hunter. Yeah. And I was a man. Which is. Yeah. And it was hundreds of years ago. Yeah, Yeah. Which I think is cool. Because it almost wraps into what I do now. Like, why do I have does right? Why do I have this weird thing that I chop up animals and I feel very at home with it, but not that I chop up animals. You know what I mean? But you know, I just thought that was really cool. I'm like, what a? What a. What a. Weird connection because I do. I felt like I'm like, I've known her before, I just don't know why. And I think that that's so cool. Yeah, that was only one of the times.

1:22:27 That was only one of the times that she shared. So. In our little our little Venn diverse collaborations. Yeah. Well, if anybody has any questions. Drop them in really quick otherwise. If you guys have anything else you want to say and then we'll we'll finish. I I just have one question because ever. Since you talked about your cat Marnie, I'm like, I have this strange desire to watch Halloween Town. Is that what she is named? It is. Nobody ever knows that. Yeah. That was my favorite movie growing. Up and then I was working at a pet store with actually Megan who's watching this is she was my assistant manager at a pet store and now she works for me.

1:23:12 And somebody brought in this little kitten and they're like, yeah, we're taking her to the shelter. But I mean, she was like, I was like, they're going to probably put her down because they don't have stuff for bottle feeding. That's just kind of what it was. And it was like the week before Halloween. And I'm like, what's a strong, resilient little girl that has something to do with Halloween? And I'm like Marnie because she is the witch that defeated Calzar Calabar, Calzar cats. And what a good movie. I think it's bar Calabar Calabar. I think it's Kestrel revenge or something. Yeah, in a. Couple of years, but. Now I want to watch it. I watch it. Every every October, it's a good one. That's good. So that's what she's named after, and she's a spicy little. Her.

1:23:53 Eyes are like stuck up. She's Siamese, something I need to do some I, I keep meaning to do like an intro of my cat. Somebody asked me on a previous Instagram. They're they're like, introduce all your cats. And I was like, there's too many of them and they're all running from me. I can hear her screaming at me outside the door. But I'll have to do an intro of all the menaces in my life, including Darwin, who's chewing on something over here. But thank you guys so much for hopping on with me. I've been so excited about this. And we might have to do a Volume 2 and yeah, put questions and then we'll know what volume to should be about. Yeah, absolutely. If you guys have any topics you want to talk about on the next. One, anything that you maybe thought was woo woo before and you want us to cover with no judgement and absolutely believing in you let us know.

1:24:40 Because, yeah, that that was. You wanted me to talk to Nancy Winhart and I found her thing and she has some little webinars, so I'm going to go take that and then we'll have to talk after that. So all right, Well, thank you everybody. We will be saving this. And so you can watch it again. If you want to walk back, watch back and we will talk again soon. Bye guys, bye. OK, so. That. Was an emotional episode I. Know I was there and I hope that it meant something to you. I hope that it hit you somewhere in your soul like it did me, like it did Lauren, like I'm sure it does Karen.

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