218. Itch, Gut, Allergies: How Bioenergetic Scans Find Root Causes in Pets

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Welcome back, pet parent.
Today's episode is a little

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different, but I think
incredibly interesting.

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So our guest today is Samantha
Stupak.

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She is the founder and CEO of
CBH Energetics and Pet Medela.

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What they do is bio, it's
bioenergetic testing.

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And the, the thing with
bioenergetic testing is that

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some people hate it, some people
love it, and most people are

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like, what is this simple?
I've been using bioenergetic

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testing for dogs and cats for a
couple of years now.

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And I just I'm really excited to
have you on Samantha.

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I want to hear your story and
all about this.

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But first of all, let's get you
on the podcast and welcome you

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to the Pet Parenting Reset.
How are you doing today?

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Thanks, Jessica.
I'm good.

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Yeah, I'm excited to be here and
chat about bioenergetic testing.

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Yeah, it's it's a very
interesting topic that again,

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some people are like, yes, some
people are like, no, most people

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are just like, what the heck are
you talking about?

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One thing I always like to start
with, anytime I talk to any,

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especially somebody who's like
really science driven is I'm

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always like pull out, pull out
whatever cards I have.

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And I'm like, well, guess what?
Even you know, Albert Einstein

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said everything is energy,
right?

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Yes.
And you know, energy can't be

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like you don't create it, you
don't, you don't can't kill it.

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It's just constantly in motion,
moving between things.

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And I think that first of all,
that's a really like, if you

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really think about it, that's
actually kind of really

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beautiful.
But the bioenergetic testing

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that you guys do with CBH
Energetics and Pat Medela is

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here for people in their pets.
Give us some guidance.

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And I, I can go into this quite
a bit, but I want to like start

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off by talking about like the
history of this for you because

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I know this is very deeply
personal for you and I would

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love to hear your story about
that.

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All right, pet parents, you
already know that I talk all the

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time about needing to stop as
much as we possibly can, feeding

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our fur babies garbage, for lack
of a better word.

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That's what we talked about here
a lot.

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And again, doing the best we
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That is the message above any
and everything else.

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The more we.
Learn the more we know we need

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to make some changes and this
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Biome.
I want to like start off by

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talking about like the history
of this for you because I know

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this is very deeply personal for
you and I would love to hear

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your story about that.
Yeah.

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And you know, if we would be
talking now about bioenergetic

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testing and I didn't have my
history with why it's so

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personal, I might be one of
those people that would roll my

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eyes to it as well.
So I, I, I preface it with,

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with, with that, but I actually
studied, I, I was going to go to

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college to become a dietitian
and I started the program and I

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was like, this doesn't quite
feel right.

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And so then I switched to an
engineering program.

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So I have my undergrad in
engineering and, and you know,

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I, I love science.
I, I love my career.

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When I first moved to Chicago, I
worked as an engineer and really

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just loved it and went on a
cruise.

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And I went on this cruise with
some friends and it was, I

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believe it was a week long and I
just had a blast.

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I stayed up too late, I drank
too much, I wore my immune

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system down just like most of us
do when we go on vacation in our

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20s.
But I came back from that trip

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and I just thought that I maybe
got the flu.

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But then you know, it was just
like it's excruciating body

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pain, fatigue, headaches.
And over the next month it kept

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progressing so much that I was
completely bedridden from that

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after one month time.
And then for the next 4 years

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and it was crushing pain, like
pain that I can't even begin to

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understand how someone made it
through something like that

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because there's zero quality of
life.

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I then started also losing
myself cognitively.

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I couldn't remember my own name.
I couldn't form sentences.

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I really have four years of my
life that's pretty blacked out.

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I was taken to doctor after
doctor after doctor, poked,

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prodded, looked at in every
orifice to figure out what was

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wrong with me.
And every single time they're

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like, there is nothing wrong.
Your blood work looks perfect,

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your MRI was perfect.
There's nothing in your X-rays

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like.
And so you leave these doctors

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appointments and I remember
feeling so borderline crazy

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because it's like they make you
think it's all in your head.

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But then you start believing
that because if all these

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doctors could be wrong, I'm
like, I must just be losing my

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mind.
And so I even stayed at a

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hospital for a full month in in
the US here.

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And after that month, I thought
for sure they were going to be

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the ones that were going to help
me.

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And they they just taught me how
to manage the pain and manage

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the inability to do the things
that I used to be able to do.

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So I left there sort of feeling
lost but also fiercely

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independent in taking my own
health journey into my hands.

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And I just started researching
things that I could because at

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that point, I was able to manage
things to a degree.

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You know, I was able to sit on
my computer and look things up.

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And I met this woman online and
she's like, I know a lot of

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people that have been through
what you're going through.

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You need to go see this doctor
in a few hours north of Chicago.

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So we got an appointment with
him and in the 1st 10 minutes of

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sitting there with him, he used
technology similar to what we

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use at Pat Medulla on CBH.
And within that first 10

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minutes, he's like, this is all
from a tick white.

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And I remember pausing because
I'm like, I've been tested for

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Lyme disease dozens of times and
it was never positive.

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And he was just like, OK, well,
it was nice to meet you.

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Good luck on your journey or
this is what we're going to do.

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You're going to take this
regimen with supplements,

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homeopathy, herbs, things like
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You're going to do this cleanse,
you're going to eat this way.

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He really laid it out for me.
And at that point, I had a

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little bit of money left, not
much, but I invested everything

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I had in him for the next 6
months.

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In that six months, I got to the
point where I was walking again

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and deciding if I was going to
go back to my career as a

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engineer or if I was going to go
back and study biogenic

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medicine, which is of course,
what I did.

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It's one of those things where I
think back about my journey when

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I was on my knees and, and you
know, didn't, didn't want to

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keep going on because when you
can't, when you have nothing,

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when you have, you don't have
your health, you don't have your

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family or friends or literally
you're just kind of rotting

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alone in a room.
You get to a point where you ask

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yourself, what am I doing?
And I remember praying and

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saying I can't do another day
and I'm not a real religious

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person, but I couldn't do it
anymore.

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And I did sleep that night,
which because sleep back then

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was something that was kind of a
crapshoot if it was going to

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happen or not.
But I woke up that morning and

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it was kind of like just this
moment, this glimmer of, I don't

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know what was wrong with me at
that moment, but I knew if I

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ever figured it out, I was going
to dedicate my life to helping

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others that struggled like I
had.

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So I, you know, when I was going
to that point of, okay, do I go

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back to my career or do I go
study?

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It's like that pivotal moment
was my driving factor.

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And back then I went and I found
a clinic right in the heart of

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the Midwest where there was a
ton of people affected by Lyme

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disease.
And I went right to the center

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of that area and started my
practice.

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And I started similar to how the
doctor that helped me had

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started.
And it was a, you know, A1 room

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clinic.
And I would see clients

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one-on-one, but I wanted to help
as many people as I could.

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So I was seeing clients for 1212
hours straight without proper

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breaks or diet or anything like
that because I was so driven to

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help people.
But I also then was burning out

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and, and around the same time,
what's interesting is my dog at

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the time, Mila, sweet little
Mila, she was 1/2 pit half lab

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and I had adopted her in
Chicago.

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And so she was with me for a
long, long, long time.

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And then she started to get some
really awkward aches and pains.

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And at the time I'm trying to
remember how old she was around

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that time, maybe 8 or 9.
So way, way too young to be

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acting the way she was.
And so she was sort of a

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catalyst along with my burnout.
And there's got to be a better

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way.
Like I've got to be able to help

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more people and yet not burn
myself out.

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So looking at her and seeing how
sick she was, I remember

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thinking, how can we start to
work with this technology to be

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able to see more people but also
work with pets.

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And so in going back and really
tapping into my engineering

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degree and everything that I've
learned in this practice that I

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had been running for high at
that point, at least a year with

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a three month wait list of
people trying to get in to see

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me, I was able to work with the
technology.

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So we were analyzing the hair
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So we reworked the technology.
We reworked the software to the

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point where not only can we now
test hair and saliva, fur and

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saliva as well, but now we can
build more systems and have more

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technicians that are working
throughout the day versus me

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being one person only seeing
people or animals one at a time.

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So Mila, the interesting thing
about her, this is such power of

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the connection we have with our
animals.

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But she tested for a whole bunch
of resonating tick borne issues

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as well.
And within, you know, a few

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months of giving her her
homeopathy and her herbs and

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things like that, she started to
thrive again.

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And she and she was a 65 LB dog
and she lived almost 19 years

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old.
Wow.

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Yeah, that's amazing.
Wow.

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So yeah, Lyme is so interesting
and so difficult.

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And like you said, like it's so
hard to get a diagnosis for it.

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So incredibly hard.
And of course, I'm over here

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thinking like, first of all,
it's hard for women to get a

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diagnosis for anything, period.
Like it's just insanity what we

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go through.
Right, right.

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Insanity.
I can't tell you how many people

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I've seen online who are women
I've seen online who are like I

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must be crazy, like just like
you said, like I must be crazy

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that this just why I can do it.
And I certainly not to that to

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the degree you had it with with
lime, but I definitely had

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something as far as like the
medical side, similar where I

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went through testing for years
for fertility.

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And then all they kept telling
me was there's nothing wrong

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with me.
They don't know what's like.

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And I'm like, obviously there's
something wrong.

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Why?
Like how are we in?

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And I did what you did?
And I'm like, I had to figure it

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out on my own and figure out
what was going on with my body.

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And it's just been this whole
thing where I've changed

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everything, just about
everything in my life and

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learned about culture, processed
foods and seed oils and, you

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know, making sure I'm actually
properly monitoring my hormone

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cycles and making sure like I'm
doing blood tests on my own now

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that my doctors were never do
it.

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Like it's insanity.
Like what?

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What we have to do for ourselves
as women, right?

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Well, and it's like we're pushed
into this purpose.

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Yeah.
It's such a beautiful thing.

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And I mean, it's, it's madding
to think about how much work you

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have to put into something that
other people it just don't come

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so easily for, you know, or
someone that has chronic health

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issues or pet that has chronic
health issues, where it's just

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like it takes so much more work
for them just to be baseline.

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But at the same time, you know,
there's always that moment of

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turning lemons into lemonade
because it's like we're brought

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to this for a reason.
And I mean, look what you're

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doing, spreading your knowledge
and your wealth of information

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to people across the world.
So, you know, there's there's

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definitely that purpose and in
all this pain.

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Oh yeah, for sure.
So OK, I guess what I want to

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start with with what is
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That's probably where most
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even talking about here?
Right, right.

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Yeah.
So I like to explain

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bioenergetic testing, a super
simple explanation of biology

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and physics coming together to
analyze someone's health.

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The biology is the hair and the
saliva, or if we're looking at

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pets, fur and the saliva.
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that hurts measurement.
So that's the frequency that

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we're testing.
So hair and saliva, really any

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cells in our body, they emit A
vibrational pattern.

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If you think about those protons
and electrons rotating within

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every single cell, it creates
this vibrational pattern.

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And that vibration tells us so
much information, not only like

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the health of these cells in
terms of if they are resonating

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way too high, that's going to be
more inflammatory or if they're

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resonating really low in their
Hertz measurement, that tells us

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there's a very weak area.
So for example, when we take

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care on saliva and and test all
these different parameters of

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that vibrational pattern coming
off of the samples, we can see

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for example, if the liver is
resonating at 50 Hertz, that's

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perfect balance according to the
way we test now.

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If it jumps up to 80 Hertz,
that's more heat, that's more

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inflammatory.
If it drops down to 30 Hertz,

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it's very weak, maybe
degenerative.

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Deficiency, yeah.
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And then we look more at any
other patterns that might come

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into that biofield.
So for example, if you think

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about a specific parasite,
parasite has its own vibrational

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pattern that's unique, kind of
like a snowflake.

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Well, when it comes into your
field where you don't want it,

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it's all of a sudden impacting
your bioenergetic field and it

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kind of gets trapped there.
And, and the beautiful thing

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about bioenergetic testing is it
is so sensitive that we can

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actually during our testing
process see what kind of

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patterns have come into your
field and are negatively

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impacting you.
So we get real specific with a

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variety of different toxins,
whether it's bacterias and

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viruses and parasites and metals
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And we can see what's impacting
that vibrational pattern,

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bringing your liver down or over
exciting your thyroid, whatever

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it might be in that specific
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But then we also dive deeper
into looking at resonating

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nutritional deficiencies or food
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And so once we kind of take this
step back, we can see overall

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where you're holding stress to
what level.

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But then more importantly, why?
Because I mean, it's, it's all

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great, but if we don't know why
your thyroid might be the way it

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is, it's just, it's kind of
almost useless because you could

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put a Band-Aid on there.
But we want to get to the root

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of it.
Is there a specific virus?

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Is there a specific deficiency?
Because that gives us the exact

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how to get it balanced.
It's a very beautiful way to

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kind of step back and look at
someone as a whole person versus

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trying to spot fix things, which
then people just end up taste

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chasing their tail.
Yeah, I, well, when you were

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talking about that, when you
were explaining it, what came up

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in my mind was I, I haven't seen
it in forever.

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And now I want to like go back
and find it.

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But I used to see videos on
TikTok of people who would take,

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I don't even know what the
device was, but it was like they

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would go to different plants and
flowers and they would like

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attach one into a petal and one
into a leaf or something.

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And it like they all had, it was
like music, but it was all

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different.
Every single plant had a

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different like musical pattern
that it was it's, it's really

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beautiful actually, to like sit
and listen to it, but.

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And that's your.
Point that's exactly what this

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is to, you know, because
everything has its own pattern.

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The vitamin D has its own
signature.

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Borrelia burgdorferi, the
bacteria that causes Lyme has

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its own signature, the
sensitivity for a gluten for

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gluten, it has its own
signature.

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So that's the beauty of being
able to have these specific

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signatures, but then tap into
you're here in saliva to see

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what's actually throwing it out
of balance.

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Yeah, it's so interesting.
And in your story about the Lyme

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is also really interesting to me
and it actually makes me think

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about these tests differently
than how I've been explaining

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them to people for a couple of
years now, because I am one of

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those people like that.
I'm like, OK, where is the

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science, right?
Like what is the, what is the

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debt?
What is really happening here?

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And how can we use this data
properly?

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Like I, that's how my brain
works too, but I have definitely

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used bioenergetic testing with
so many dogs and a handful of

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cats at this point.
And to me, like, kind of just

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like with your, your story with
Lyme, it's like, does it even

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matter if we're making progress
now that we have this

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information?
You couldn't, no doctor could

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prove that you had Lyme.
But then you went through the

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protocol and it was like, well,
it doesn't even matter if that

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was a diagnosis or not.
I'm good now, right?

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Exactly.
Yeah.

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You know, there's the name and
blame.

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And I don't even look at that
anymore in terms of, you know,

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if someone has an ailment.
I don't, I don't really care

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what that diagnosis is because
it's like.

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Well, it's, it's that name and
blame where in bioenergetics

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look, let's just look at the
root of what's resonating with

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you, because then maybe that
that name that you're looking

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for doesn't matter.
But so many people that have

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dealt with chronic issues, I
think we've, we strive to know

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exactly what is causing us to
feel a certain way because then

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we know how to target it.
But the beautiful thing with

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bioenergetics is it's just
taking that look at someone in

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their entirety to understand
where are you right now?

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Because where you might be in
two months from now could be

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drastically different.
And that's often the case

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because when we're analyzing
someone's hair and saliva, it's

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not like a genetic test.
It's not like, you know, this is

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what you're predisposed to.
It's more this is where you are

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in this moment in time.
And we always kind of use that

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analogy of an onion.
So we're looking at what's at

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that outer layer of stress and
toxins and imbalances because

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that's going to be the easiest
layer to work on clearing first

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or fortifying first.
Because then in a subsequent

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test, we've cleared that layer
and we're now a layer deeper.

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And at that point, we might see
different organ stagnation, we

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might see different
deficiencies, different toxins

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because they were buried or
covered by things that needed to

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come off first.
So the way we approach testing

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and and working with clients is
very methodical because someone

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could say, yeah, I've been bit
by a tick, I just want to start

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addressing killing off Borrelia.
But if someone one has heavy

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metals or other parasites that
are priority first, we could

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potentially make that person
feel a whole heck of a lot worse

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if we just go straight to the
thing we think it is for without

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testing to see what's that
priority factor first.

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Because it doesn't need to be
some wretched detox for for a

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human or an animal.
But sometimes, as you know, like

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a heavy metal cleanse or
something like that, that's a

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tough one.
Regardless of where it's at, if

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it's a priority or not.
Lots of times those can be

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pretty rough.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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I agree with that.
So, OK, talking about doing

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these things, how, how, what
does sample collection, what

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does this whole process look
like?

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Whether it's for a human or for
a dog or a cat, what is what

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does this look like?
It's super duper easy.

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So the order test kit online and
then it's shipped directly to

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their house once they get it in
the mail, there's a little

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registration card in there where
they register online, take

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either their own or their
animals saliva samples with just

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a simple little vial like this.
It's just a quick little cheek

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swab.
And then for the hair, it can be

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from anywhere in the body from
the ends.

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It doesn't have to be from the
root.

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It can be like if it's a male
and they have chest hair or leg

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hair, that's no problem.
Or if someone has no nails,

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babies, we can use fingernails.
Or if we have a dog that doesn't

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have a lot of hair, a cat that
doesn't have a lot of hair, we

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can use trimmings from from
their toenails as well.

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And so just a simple collection
of that hair and saliva and then

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just popped right back in the
mail in a prepaid envelope.

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Once we receive that from that
time, usually it's about 7

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business days.
And then we have those results

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ready right on their dashboard
where they can look through all

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of their results.
They can talk to one of our

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consultants or practitioners and
they can then order their

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remedies that specifically
tested for them right from the

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website and then it's sent right
to their house.

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And then in a perfect world that
that person or pet would stay on

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that regimen for about 30 days.
So the formulas tweaking their

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diet, if they've talked to the
practitioner and maybe do a

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couple of bio hacks and then
test again.

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And we've seen that that sweet
spot is about 3 scans

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back-to-back, sort of like, you
know, you didn't take you

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overnight to get where you're
at.

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It's not going to take you
overnight to get back.

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And so, so three months, roughly
3-4 months is usually that sweet

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spot.
But it really depends.

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I'm sure you see this as well,
but how long someones been sick

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or how long an animal has been
sick oftentimes can indicate how

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long it might take them to get
better.

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So our general rule of thumb is
one month for every year.

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So if someone's really had a
stubborn health issue for five

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years, it could be about 5
months worth of consistent

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testing.
Yeah, I, I totally agree with

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that.
I have so many dogs that have

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just gone, it's so many years of
their lives.

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And I actually, for, for dogs
that have been on

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immunosuppressants, I've, I find
it takes longer to get them back

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to, you know, a state where like
everything's good, we're all

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happy and healthy again.
It definitely for me, I find

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that it, it does take longer
than the like one month per year

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old.
But that's, you know, has just

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been my experience with because
it gets so bad.

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So, and it gets so much worse,
so much quicker when they're on

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immunosuppressants.
But that's a whole lot of

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things.
Yeah.

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Well, and it does.
And we have to take into

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consideration too, like the
world that we live in.

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We're not drinking pure water,
we're not breathing pure air.

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You know, there's there's a lot
of things that we have to combat

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and that's it can get tough when
it's not the cleanest world that

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we're living in.
Yeah, for sure.

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So one of the things, and we
were kind of kind of talking

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about this a little bit before
we hit record that I think is

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really interesting.
And I I don't know if you have

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seen people do this, but the
like how how things in a human's

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life or a pet's life kind of
like mirror each other.

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Do you see a lot of people
running the tests like

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simultaneously between like them
and their pets and seeing like a

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lot of the same things coming
up?

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Oh yeah, yeah, we see that all
the time.

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And it's, it's freakishly common
to see very similar patterns.

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And you know, I think that's
just, if you think about how

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close we are with our animals,
they hold our energy, we hold

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theirs.
So there's just that aspect in

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itself.
But then we also live in the

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same environment as them, you
know, so for, for example, sweet

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lab Max, he's a 11 1/2 year old
yellow lab.

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He, I mean, he's consistently
tested and we consistently come

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up with a lot of the same things
because we live in the same

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environment, you know, like we
live in a community that's

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pretty heavily sprayed with
pesticides and herbicides with,

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you know, all the golf courses
around and things like that.

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And so we go for a walk.
We're all exposed to that, you

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know, we are all breathing that
same air.

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And I'll tell you right now with
a lot of the Canadian fires that

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have been having that smoke blow
down to the to the Midwest here

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especially, we are seeing a ton
of lung stress in a lot of

446
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,040
people and pets right now with
that.

447
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
And we also see a lot of
patterns in different other

448
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,200
areas of the country as well.
A lot of patterns like mold in

449
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Florida especially, lots and
lots of mold within families,

450
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
not only the kids and parents,
but their animals coming up with

451
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960
the same molds.
And so we see a lot of those

452
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,320
kind of patterns frequently and
also patterns even within pets.

453
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,240
So if, for example, we have two
pets being tested within the

454
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560
same household, it's super
common to see a lot of the same

455
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
parasites, a lot of the same
efficiencies because they're

456
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,360
often being fed the same things
or out in the same yards, you

457
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,680
know, licking each other's
bowls, things like that.

458
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640
So we see a lot of that
commonality too.

459
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Yeah, I think it's pretty common
knowledge at this point.

460
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960
I think, I don't know, maybe
maybe I'm wrong, that people

461
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720
living in the same household,
people and pets, like we kind of

462
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,400
share microbiomes and there's
just no getting around it.

463
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
There's isn't.
So like, you know, be very

464
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,680
cautious of who you decide to
live with.

465
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Right.
Be very cautious.

466
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,400
But yeah, that the whole
glyphosate thing.

467
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Oh my gosh, and the what is the
one they they replaced it with

468
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600
starts with ADI can't remember
now the new one because they had

469
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,320
to round up how to take it out
of the like commercial one that

470
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,600
people can buy.
Like I can't recall it as off.

471
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,320
The top of my head, yeah.
I can't either, but that's like

472
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,880
45 times worse for us than
glyphosate, which is so

473
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760
wonderful.
Thank you so much, Monsanto.

474
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600
That yeah, study.
And again, I can't remember if

475
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680
it's, I think it's Parkin.
It's either Alzheimer's or

476
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Parkinson's.
Like if you live on or near a

477
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280
golf course, it's like the rates
of these diseases are.

478
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Just off the chart, Yeah, the
neurological issues for sure.

479
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920
It's crazy, yeah.
Yeah, I actually did have a pet

480
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,440
parent who I was doing a leaky
gut protocol with her dog

481
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,480
anyway.
But she, unlike our third call,

482
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,640
I think she was like, Oh yeah,
by the way, we're just finishing

483
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680
up like mold remediation in the
house and her and her kids are

484
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,040
doing this like mold detox.
And I was like, that's actually

485
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
like, really good for me to know
because we're going to need to

486
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,760
do a mold detox for your dog
too.

487
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
And she was like, I didn't think
about that.

488
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,480
And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes.

489
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Thank you for telling me because
we're not, we're only going to

490
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160
get so far if I don't know that
your dog has been exposed in

491
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
mold, right like.
Exactly.

492
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Oh my goodness.
But it is.

493
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960
It's just one of those things
that's like, we don't always

494
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160
think about these things
impacting our pets the way they

495
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,520
do, and oftentimes even more so.
Cats are the most toxic animals

496
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280
on the planet for so many
reasons.

497
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840
They.
Are so much.

498
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Smaller than most dogs and
certainly humans.

499
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,880
And then their Paul ads are
picking up everything.

500
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080
They generally don't get outside
to off gas.

501
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,960
It's like they're stuck in this
like 4 walls where you can get

502
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160
out, you can get out and you can
off gas.

503
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480
You're wearing clothes, you're
not absorbing through your feet

504
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080
all the time.
You're at least wearing like

505
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,360
socks or shoes or something.
And yeah, it's really, it's

506
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,320
really kind of crazy to me the,
the environmental stressors that

507
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,000
we unknowingly oftentimes put
our pets through, which is

508
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,040
another reason why I like the
multiple tests that you have,

509
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040
especially on the.
I haven't I should have looked

510
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
on the CBH, but I was looking on
the PET Medela because you can

511
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,560
just do food sensitivities or
you can do like the whole scan.

512
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,960
So you can you tell me like the
difference in those two and what

513
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080
people can expect?
Yeah.

514
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,240
So the sensitivity scan is just
that we're testing for both food

515
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880
and environmental sensitivities.
So we test against 350 different

516
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,760
possible triggers and then
that's a standalone and that's

517
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,160
all it is.
And it's, it's a great scan for

518
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,000
people that want to know just
that.

519
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,080
But once you get those results
back and you see a slurry of

520
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
different things coming up, I'm
guessing most people will be

521
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520
like, well, why?
Because it's not normal to have

522
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,560
a sensitivity to chicken and
eggs and beef.

523
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,240
And you know, it's not normal
for animals to have all these

524
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,120
sensitivities.
And so that's why I always urge

525
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,920
people to start with a full
scan, because the full scan will

526
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360
give us that deeper
understanding of why an animal

527
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,920
might have those sensitivities.
And that full scan is looking at

528
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000
the entire body.
So we test 14 different systems

529
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880
to see what level of stress
within each.

530
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,040
So for example, if there's a
weak digestive system, an

531
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
inflamed immune system, and we
do the whole body.

532
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640
And then from there we start to
hammer down what the YS.

533
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,080
So we look at the food
sensitivities, deficiencies,

534
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
toxins, hormones, and then we
test for a regimen.

535
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,240
So it's a very complete test,
but the the big benefit of doing

536
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,800
the full scan to start is, for
example, if we see an animal

537
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,600
testing for all these different
foods that are kind of fattier

538
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,760
foods, right away, it makes me
think, is their liver OK?

539
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
You know, do they have, why are
they not digesting their fats?

540
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,880
And if we can get to the root of
that, then over hopefully a

541
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800
short amount of time, they're
going to not have that

542
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,840
sensitivity to all those fatty
things like a salmon or coconut

543
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,720
oil and things like that.
So if you do the sensitivity

544
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,120
scan, that's great because
you'll know exactly what to

545
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,600
avoid, but it doesn't give you
that full picture of like, well,

546
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,600
why do I need to avoid it?
Because if we can get to the

547
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,040
root of it in the first place,
then over time we don't have to

548
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240
avoid it so diligently.
And so I like to start with the

549
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
full scan, but then a lot of PET
parents like to do the

550
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:18,560
sensitivity scan maybe once or
twice a year thereafter, just to

551
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960
see if they can start to add
certain foods back.

552
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Yeah, yeah, that makes so much
sense.

553
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,320
So what about for humans?
So for humans, same concept, you

554
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,120
know, it's in a lot of people
like that sensitivity scan.

555
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,400
But I again want to know like,
well, why do I have to avoid

556
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,440
this sugar or this vegetable?
I mean, it's crazy how many

557
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920
people come back with vegetable
sensitivity sometimes and

558
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
usually there's a lot of gut
things going on when that's.

559
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560
The case for sure.
So always starting with the full

560
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200
scan is my favorite, but we have
quite a few other scans as well

561
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,800
with on the within the human
side.

562
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,120
So our most recent 1 is a brain
scan and that one, it has been

563
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040
just incredible, especially for
folks that are struggling with

564
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,800
anything cognitive.
So Miss ALS, ADD, autism,

565
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,159
anxiety, sleeplessness, like all
the things.

566
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,520
And it's very different than the
full scan in terms of the report

567
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,840
itself, but in the same concept
of where are you holding stress

568
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,280
in your brain?
And then from that bioenergetic

569
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,719
perspective, why?
Which gives us that ability to

570
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,560
understand how to improve it.
And we have other smaller

571
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,880
subsets than on the CBH side for
humans.

572
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,639
So smaller subsets of that full
scan, which is nice because then

573
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,960
someone may be in between full
scans, they want to do a smaller

574
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,480
like balancing scan where we're
just looking at hormones,

575
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,679
nutrients, toxins.
And then we test for a balancing

576
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,600
regimen to.
And we even have a test that's

577
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,480
called a remedy scan for both
pets and people where it's

578
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,719
literally just testing to see
what remedies do balance with

579
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,120
right now to make sure you're
taking a customized formula

580
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,360
blend that's ideal for you.
Because I don't know about you,

581
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
but I mean, I love supplements.
So of course I'm like, oh, I

582
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,280
think I need that, that, that,
Yeah.

583
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,320
And I could be.
Taking thousands of dollars.

584
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Of supplements every month, but
I don't I test to see exactly

585
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
what I need that one and then
because the body's constantly

586
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,720
changing.
Yeah.

587
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160
So what is it?
Is it like homeopathics or how

588
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
does what is the testing for?
Yeah.

589
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,480
So we have hand plucked some of
our favorite lines from

590
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,480
different manufacturers and some
of them are homeopathic, some of

591
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,640
them are herbal, and then some
are your more foundational

592
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,800
supplements, vitamins, minerals,
amino acids, things like that.

593
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Yeah, so and oftentimes you'll
see a blend that you might see,

594
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,280
especially in the human side
that we like that trio where you

595
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
get that the herb, the
homeopathic, and then the

596
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480
supplementation.
Supplementation kind of comes in

597
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,720
as that foundational support
that that person's deficient in

598
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:57,080
or that they just need for their
body to function and at an

599
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,080
optimal level, then you can
herbal leg.

600
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,280
And that herbal leg is doing
that job for the body and it's

601
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
nice and potent.
And then the homeopathic leg

602
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,760
comes in and sort of like, OK,
body, remember how to do this on

603
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,760
your own.
You don't need to stay on all

604
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,720
these things forever.
We want you to remember how to

605
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,480
do it.
So that trio is really powerful.

606
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,280
Yeah, that's, that's really
cool.

607
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,120
And I think, I mean, there are
certainly like some me, I'm just

608
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
thinking about me right now
selfishly.

609
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Like there are certainly some
supplements that I'm like, I

610
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,040
feel like I always need like
beef organs and Omega threes and

611
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,000
like because I'm just, I know
how I eat, right?

612
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Like I know I don't need organs
and I know that I'm not a big

613
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,640
seafood fan.
And like I just know that I need

614
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,200
these things and those are just
kind of going to kind of be in

615
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,000
my rotation all the time.
But the other thing this, like

616
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
you said, shouldn't be there
forever.

617
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,480
They just, they shouldn't.
We should use them for a period

618
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,080
of time and work on the
underlying issues that are that

619
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,240
are going on in the body and
hopefully, hopefully we won't

620
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,720
ever need them again.
Right.

621
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,760
That would be amazing.
Exactly.

622
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:22,160
So how do you see bioenergetic
testing working alongside more

623
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,040
traditional like blood tests and
things that doctors and

624
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
veterinarians would do?
I think it's a beautiful

625
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,520
compliment.
It's because, I mean, we would

626
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,360
never say we're a silver bullet.
And so for vets and doctors and

627
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,760
things like that, where they
welcome the reports and they

628
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,240
welcome to see what a client's
on, that's always a beautiful

629
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,560
thing.
I don't know if it's always

630
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,200
widely accepted, but from our
view, to be able to take both

631
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
that Western approach and the
Eastern approach and marry them

632
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,200
together, those people and
animals do phenomenal.

633
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Yeah.
And though the one thing that we

634
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,040
always need is when someone
registers online, there's a

635
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,000
required health form.
And in that health form, we ask

636
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,520
for an understanding of those
common complaints, any

637
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
medication, any pregnancies,
nursing, all of those.

638
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,200
Because there's certain
formulas, there's certain herbs

639
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
and things like that that we
wouldn't want someone to take if

640
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
they're on a certain medication
or breastfeeding.

641
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
So that's always a critical
thing we need to know before we

642
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,320
start testing just so there's no
interactions.

643
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah, absolutely.
And so the testing itself, is it

644
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,160
like constantly, you're just
constantly improving.

645
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,480
How does that work?
Yeah, I mean, I it's very rare

646
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,800
to see someone that's perfectly
balanced.

647
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,360
There's there's there's actually
quite a few animals that do look

648
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,000
pretty good on their first scan.
It seems to be the most common

649
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
areas on the full scan that we
see stress on on pets is

650
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,840
digestive and immune.
Those are the two most common.

651
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,720
And lymph, lymph is pretty
common as common stress as well.

652
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:08,280
But there's one woman I remember
it was her first scan and she

653
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,720
was in her 70s and she's like, I
have nothing wrong.

654
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
I am just curious to know how
I'm doing.

655
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,880
And we tested her and it was one
of the best tests I'd ever seen.

656
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,400
And I personally wanted to tap
her into her consultation

657
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680
because I just want to be like,
well, what are you doing and why

658
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,680
are you posted?
And she's like, well, I was

659
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,920
curious.
I'm always just wanting to be

660
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:34,160
the healthiest version of me.
And that her skin was a rarity.

661
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,120
Most people, most animals have
quite a deep level of stress

662
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400
across the board.
And it takes a while to get to a

663
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,120
point where they're perfectly
balanced.

664
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920
And depending on someone's
environment that they're living

665
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,440
in, the depth of the stress in
their body, it can take a while

666
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,080
to really get perfectly
balanced.

667
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960
And I would say it's not common
that we ever see anyone

668
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,840
perfectly balanced because
there's ebbs and flows, you

669
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,480
know, from one day to the next.
For myself, well, if I go and.

670
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Run into someone, you know, at
the grocery store and they have

671
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,840
a bacteria that I get, or if I
workout really, really hard and

672
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
really stress my body harder
than I wanted to.

673
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,560
You know, there's all, it's just
constant factors that could be

674
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
stressing us, but we see general
trends.

675
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,080
So like for example, oftentimes
a first scan is what it is and

676
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,880
then when they start taking
their regimen and if they're

677
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,560
they've never detoxed before and
we've started to move pathways

678
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,440
and start to create some die off
from organisms or move heavy

679
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,680
metals and things like that,
that can actually create stress

680
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,040
as it moves out through the
body.

681
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,760
So then that scan oftentimes
might be worse than their first

682
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,600
one.
Yeah, creating stress during

683
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,600
that detoxing process.
So from our perspective, it's

684
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,280
always like, OK, perfect.
Well, this is exactly what we

685
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600
expected.
And then often times by that

686
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,800
3rd, 4th scan, they've just made
leaps and bounds because they

687
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,800
got that couple of layers of
gunk out and they're doing

688
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,760
stuff.
Better.

689
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:08,080
Yeah.
Well and that something that you

690
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,400
brought up that is very
interesting to me.

691
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,440
So like, is there any sort of
coaching as far as like, OK, you

692
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,560
just took your dog out for a
hike all day long for 10 hours

693
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,000
and now they're exhausted and
you're home and you're like the

694
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,240
next morning going to swab them
and send this in.

695
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,880
Like that's probably not the
best time to do it or.

696
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,240
I mean, it's when it comes to
testing like it's, it's sort of

697
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,680
that that range, like we look at
it kind of like about a week,

698
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,760
anything in roughly a week we're
going to pick up.

699
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,480
And so if that intense fatigue
lasts longer than a week, then

700
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,240
maybe wait till after that.
But then at the same time, if

701
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:56,120
they're that exhausted after a
hike for a week, we should

702
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,920
probably test on them to find
out why.

703
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gotcha.

704
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,400
OK.
So I think, you know, again,

705
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,520
going back to this working
really well alongside the blood

706
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,320
testing especially.
I mean, there are certain I feel

707
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,160
like we should, especially when
I'm thinking about my pets like

708
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
I'm getting their blood work
done annually.

709
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Anyway.
This isn't like me sitting here

710
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,720
going like like, you know, we
need to be biohacking our pets.

711
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,040
Like I don't know, there's,
there's a whole lot that we

712
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,680
could talk about around
biohacking in general.

713
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
But like this is something that
we should be doing anyway, these

714
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,080
blood tests for ourselves and
for our pets and just kind of

715
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560
taking in all of the information
possible.

716
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
But I definitely see, you know,
the bioenergetic testing that

717
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,320
I've been doing with with
animals.

718
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Again, it may not be something
that a veterinarian is like,

719
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,280
yeah, this is great.
In fact, they're probably

720
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,200
generally like, why are you
wasting your money?

721
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,240
But at the same time, they're
not able a veterinarian

722
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,840
specifically, generally
speaking, they're not able to

723
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,640
put in the time and the energy
and the effort into figuring all

724
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,960
these things out for pet
parents, for the pets that

725
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,480
they're seeing.
And you wind up with, you know,

726
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,320
one or multiple prescriptions
just trying to manage symptoms.

727
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,240
So like if you were really
wanting to go down the route of

728
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,800
root cause and, and figuring
things out like this is this to

729
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,640
me is one of the best ways to do
it because we're, like you said

730
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,320
at the very beginning, we're
looking at the whole of the

731
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,680
being and how all of the energy
in every part of the animal is

732
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,360
working together or working
together.

733
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,680
So I find it to be like one of
the best ways to really start

734
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,120
with root cause issues and
animals and human.

735
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,640
I've, I've never used it for
human, but I mean, I think I

736
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,840
don't, I don't work with humans,
at least not right now.

737
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,920
But it's yeah, I just, I can see
how incredibly beneficial it can

738
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,200
be to get you down the right
path.

739
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Whether you want to believe,
whether you want to say it's woo

740
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,400
woo or whatever, it doesn't.
It doesn't matter as long as

741
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,000
like at the end of the day,
you're actually working towards

742
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,440
health.
And if this is a tool to get you

743
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,040
there, I don't know, that's just
mine.

744
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,200
It makes sense.
It makes so much sense.

745
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
And, you know, it's like one of
those things where I remember

746
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,680
way back in the day when I first
started testing and I was

747
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,920
working more one-on-one with
people, it was that a lot of

748
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,320
people were just like, well, I
don't fully understand what

749
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,600
you're doing this.
You are the only person that has

750
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,120
been able to help me in 1020
years.

751
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,800
So I don't care what it is.
I just know that this is the

752
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
first time ever that I'm
actually getting relief and

753
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680
starting to feel better.
And so it's like you hear

754
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
something like that that's so
profound and blood work is so

755
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,640
incredible.
It's like such a foundational

756
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,560
thing we all need to do to know
like where we're at, where

757
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,080
bioenergetics.
The great thing when doing both

758
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,880
is that bioenergetics will pick
up on the nuances long before

759
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,280
blood work will.
So, and sometimes in that

760
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,560
bioenergetic realm, like look at
my situation, I was tested for

761
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Lyme disease for four years and
it never came back positive in

762
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,040
traditional testing.
And with bio resonance, it

763
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,840
picked it up because it was just
in a different realm that

764
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,720
Borrelia was so deep.
It wasn't in my blood, it was it

765
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:36,320
was heavily impacting me.
And when it comes to looking at

766
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,720
different stress levels and
looking at nutritional patterns

767
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,760
and things like that,
bioenergetic testing is so

768
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960
sensitive.
We want to know even if your

769
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,240
thyroid or your vitamin D or any
of the markers, the thousands of

770
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,120
markers that we look for, we
want to know even they're,

771
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,160
they're slightly outside the
normal range because, because

772
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,400
that gives you the power to
change that.

773
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Now before maybe five years from
now when you're going and having

774
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160
your blood tests draw your blood
test and you find out that you

775
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,040
are in a realm where it's a
diagnosable XY or Z, whatever it

776
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,680
might be.
And so that's the beauty of the

777
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600
sensitivity of bioenergetic
testing.

778
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Yeah, well, and that makes me
think of two things.

779
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,680
One on the human side, I
recently read a book called Good

780
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:29,280
energy by Doctor Casey means
your brother is Callie.

781
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,440
I always want to say I'm like,
is it Casey or Callie?

782
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Anyway, Doctor Casey means and
so the book is good energy and

783
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,040
one of the things it was just
like this recurring theme

784
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,920
throughout the whole book is
that these are what doctors

785
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,560
consider normal on this lab
result.

786
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,440
Sorry, that's actually not where
you want to be.

787
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,800
Like this is the range where you
would actually want to be.

788
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,960
And so if you don't know that
and you're just going by doctor

789
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,520
saying you're normal, common, it
doesn't mean it's normal.

790
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,080
And I feel like they should be
saying that you're in a common

791
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,440
range instead of a normal rate.
Right.

792
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,760
Yes.
So I think a lot of people are

793
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,640
really misled by quote UN quote,
normal blood results.

794
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,320
So that was like a huge theme of
that book was like these are the

795
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,840
actual ranges that you want to
be looking for.

796
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,960
So if you are a human on your
own health journey and you are

797
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,880
really, really struggling with
doctors continually telling you

798
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,760
everything is normal, that might
be a really good book for you.

799
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,720
I make no money on that.
I'm just just a messenger.

800
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,320
But with animals I know like the
liver and the kid like kidneys,

801
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,440
when we are looking at their
blood work, by the time the

802
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:47,480
results show too high in the no
longer normal range, like the

803
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,080
kidney function is like 6070%
gone.

804
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,920
Right.
So that's another reason why I'm

805
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
just like, yeah, this makes so
much sense.

806
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Just because the blood work is
quote UN quote good doesn't mean

807
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,160
that there's nothing wrong.
Right, right.

808
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,800
And that's as like a pet owner,
if something doesn't seem right,

809
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,680
you want to get them tested and
take a deeper dive to understand

810
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,360
that why?
Or even if there's not an issue,

811
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,560
whether it's a blood test or a
bioenergetic test or some kind

812
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:23,080
of analysis to see proactively
where is my pet right now?

813
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,840
And are they starting to fall
within a range where I need to

814
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,400
give them some support so they
don't get to a point where we're

815
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,880
having to worry about kidney
disease?

816
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Yeah.
Yeah.

817
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,040
You know, the cool thing is back
in the day when I first started

818
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,160
this business, people would
often say you're my last ditch

819
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,800
after effort.
And it was just like, that's

820
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200
that's a powerful thing for
someone to tell you because

821
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,960
there's a lot of weight that
comes with that.

822
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Yeah.
And yet now were, I mean I

823
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,160
started this business in 2012,
it's 2025 and people are saying

824
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,560
I like you're my first stop.
That's amazing.

825
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,000
First up versus my last ditch
effort and that's it's just so

826
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,240
wild to hear how bioenergetic
testing has become so accepted

827
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,640
in such a short time frame.
But at the same time, when

828
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,600
people have histories like I do,
where you go to the doctor

829
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,800
looking for answers, looking for
help, looking for hope, and they

830
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
fall short and giving that to
you time and time and time

831
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,120
again, people are forced to do
things that might seem woo woo

832
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
to them, that might seem out of
the norm.

833
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,880
But when those things give you
the results you've been praying

834
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,200
and hoping and crying about
getting, like, that's all the

835
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,280
difference in the world.
Yeah.

836
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Yeah.
Well, I think that's probably a

837
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,280
good place to.
And Samantha, I appreciate you

838
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,320
so much for being here today,
for talking about this, for

839
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680
helping to educate on
bioenergetic testing.

840
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,000
And I'm just really excited to,
to continue recommending this to

841
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,960
help helping people and their
pets figure out the root cause

842
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,440
of what's going on with them.
Because I think like as a

843
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,960
society, especially, especially
women, we are just so sick and

844
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,360
tired of being told there's
nothing wrong with us.

845
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,880
And goodness gracious, like I
feel like I could just rant on

846
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,240
that forever, forever and ever.
So tired of it.

847
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:17,320
So thank you so much for what
you do, guys.

848
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Check all of the links in the
show notes.

849
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,360
If you have any questions,
follow CBH Energetics, Pet

850
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Medela on socials.
If you have any questions, feel

851
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
free to reach out to me as well.
I'm happy to help answer those,

852
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,960
and if you have anything else
you want to say, you're welcome

853
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,400
to.
Thank you so much for having me

854
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120
on, I appreciate it so much.
This has been a really fun

855
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,880
conversation.
You're so fine.

856
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,640
I appreciate it.
I appreciate you.

857
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,360
And guys, give your pet some
extra love from me and Samantha

858
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,240
today and I'll be back with you
next week.