Dec. 16, 2025

228. How to Support Your Dog’s Liver Naturally with Glutathione from Earth Buddy

Liver support, done right. I sit down with Sean Zyer (Earth Buddy) to unpack glutathione—what it is, why dogs burn through it, and how liposomal delivery actually improves absorption. We cover real-world signs of liver stress (itch/yeast cycles, slow recovery, sensitivities), smart dosing by body weight, and how to stack glutathione with food-first upgrades (bitter greens, clean fats, minerals) for better detox and resilience. You’ll hear sourcing and safety guardrails, when to use daily vs. pulse, and what changes to expect by weeks 2–4. Practical, actionable, no fluff.

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It's time to rethink how we
raise our pets.

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A reset to naturally healthy
dogs and cats.

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My name is Jessica.
I'm a certified professional

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canine nutritionist, raw
nutrition certified for dogs and

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cats, a holistic pet health
coach, the founder of Wild

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parent is welcome.
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If you've been feeling like
there has to be something more,

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something better, a better way
to raise healthier pets, welcome

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to the pet Parenting reset.
Welcome back pet parent.

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Today's episode is such a fun
one.

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I have been looking to the
forward to this one for a while.

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Today's guest is Sean Zyer with
Earth Buddy.

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Welcome back to the podcast,
Sean.

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Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so I love Earth Buddies

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products and I have been kind of
impatiently waiting.

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I think I've texted you one too
many times about when is the

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glutathione going to come up?
When is when is that going to be

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on the website?
When is it going to be

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available?
And you're very, very kind and

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you're like, I'm only one
person, I'll do it, I'll get it,

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I'll get it done, which I
totally understand.

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So we are going to talk today
about the glutathione product.

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We're going to talk about the
study that you had done.

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Before we get there, you want to
talk because I've heard I've

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already like people in my orbit
that I have recommended this

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product to have already seen
amazing results with it.

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So I definitely want to talk
about that.

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But before we do, I want to give
everybody like kind of a recap

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of who you are and what Earth
Buddy is and why you do what you

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do.
Yeah, absolutely.

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So Earth Buddy was started in
2015, somewhat accidentally,

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somewhat on purpose for the
simple fact that I had a dog

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that was drug resistant to the
typical seizure medications that

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they prescribe.
And she would have cluster

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seizures.
So her name is Kiva and we got

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her from a family member.
And I thought I was this big

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tough guy thinking I would just,
you know, take her in for 30

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days and if she doesn't respond
to anything I give her, I'll

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just put her down.
I'm so tough.

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And obviously I immediately fell
in love with her.

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And being in the pet industry
and my background is in pet food

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and pet nutrition, felt it
really necessary to try

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everything.
And she was 13, she was

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emaciated, she wasn't eating.
She was like a gas station

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kibble dog.
No, no bad feelings towards the

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people who owned her.
They were family members.

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But, you know, they just didn't
know.

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And so they knew that I was in
the pet industry and I can help

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her a little bit or at least
give her a little bit of quality

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of life.
So my thought was like, let's

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just give her good food, you
know, feed her, you know, Whole

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Foods and supplements and see
what happens.

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And, you know, in that process,
falling in love with Kiva, she

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became part of our family and I
was willing to do anything for

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her and keep her around a little
bit longer.

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Simultaneously, the the
introduction and legalization of

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hemp came about in 2014.
So some of the first crops of

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hemp ever grown for over 100
years started happening in

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Colorado.
So being always 1° separated

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from cannabis in Colorado
partnered with our farm that is

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ran by two scientists, 2 pH DS
that know more about cannabis

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than 82 people I know in the
world.

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And they were only growing on a
small farm that practices

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regenerative and organic
agriculture or horticulture in

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this case, because we only grow
on three acres.

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So I really felt like I could
trust them because at the time

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there was not a lot of products
I trusted.

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And you know, you Fast forward
almost 10 years and I, I still

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feel the same way.
Like, hey, there's a lot of

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sketchy stuff out there.
And we were able to give her

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some quality of life, you know,
not just on the the health issue

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side, but just give her the
dignity that she deserves and

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every pet deserves.
And so it was really amazing to

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see that and we were able to
keep her around another year and

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a half.
So to the point where she

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started attacking my other
little guy, Tito, He was like my

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soul dog.
She started attacking him

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because she felt so good that
she was like, you know what, I'm

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sick of this little guy.
So, you know, that was the

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starting point of Earth Buddy
was in the CBD and hemp side.

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And then we've since
transitioned to not just CBD,

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but other hemp, cannabinoids or
molecules that the plant

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produces different formulations
for different issues.

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And we are not just adamant
about using one molecule or one

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thing.
We're really about trying to

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address a number of of
challenges that pet owners go

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through.
It's like, what is the delivery

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mechanism of this product?
In terms of supplements, we see

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so much out there and they're
typically, you know, in a treat.

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And it's like, OK, treats are
great.

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We make great treats as well.
But we wanted to create

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different delivery systems,
whether that's, you know, an

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encapsulation or a liposomal
form to make it more absorbable

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and pass the digestive tract or
you know, a faster acting form

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of CBD that is in distilled
water that works a little bit

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faster and absorbs
transmucosaline.

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All that to say is like, we, we
want to make products that work

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effectively and we know that
every pet is so different and

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every pet is a individual.
So we're not saying there's a

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one-size-fits-all.
And we want to make a a number

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of different products that
address, you know, the main

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things that we see, like, you
know, stress is the biggest one,

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but also, you know, achy joints,
gut health, you know, digestive

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upset, all the things that we
typically see with pets.

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We want to make something for
them in a number of ways,

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whether it's a pill, powder, oil
or treat.

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I appreciate that actually
because I think treats are very

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popular but I for a year I can't
get my dog to eat ACBD treat.

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I can't do it.
I've tried so many different

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companies but my initial thought
was like well she just doesn't

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want it because it's not meat
flavored like she likes.

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She likes meat.
She's not eating.

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If I, I have to hide her veggies
and her food, she will not just

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eat a vegetable.
She will not like.

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It just doesn't happen.
Sometimes she'll eat cheese.

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She wants meat all the time and
but even the ones that have come

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out that are like meat flavored
or whatever, no, she doesn't

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want that.
I don't know what it is with

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her.
She's like, no, I don't.

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I don't want those.
It's funny you say.

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And it just speaks to the
individuality of of us and our

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pets.
And one of the things we saw

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with Kiva when we started the
company was she wasn't eating

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her food.
And I was like, I was putting

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down stuff that was like the
best food on the market in 2015.

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You know, like literally raw
meat or even cooked food.

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She wouldn't touch it.
And one of the reasons why we

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started with our CBD treats in a
biscuit form was we were using

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real blueberries and real Whole
Foods and just simple

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ingredients like limited
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And she would eat our blueberry
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And I don't know what it was
about the blueberry treats

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specifically, but that was one
of our like, first products that

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I was like, Oh my gosh, she's
actually eating.

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And that actually stimulated her
appetite enough to get the food

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in her.
And I really think, you know,

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CBD was a big factor in helping
her.

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I really think that just
stimulating her appetite and

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getting the foods in her was
really the catalyst to keep her

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around as long as we did.
Yeah, I think that's one of the,

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you know, big things we look
for.

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Well, we did an episode a while
back that was all about senior

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dogs and I I know we talked
about a lot of this in that

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episode.
So I don't want to rehash things

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that we've already talked about
too terribly much.

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I mean, I just, I do want people
listening to know that, you

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know, there aren't a whole lot
of CBD or even mushroom brands

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that I recommend that I would
use myself.

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And so when I do find brands
that I am comfortable, like I'm

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like, no, this is I would give
this to my pets.

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Then, you know, I want to make
sure that I'm highlighting you

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guys and bringing you on and,
and giving you a space to talk

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to anybody who decides they for
whatever reason, want to listen

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to me.
Who knows why, but you know,

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doing it the right way, making
sure that they, the products

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that are coming off of your
shelves are actually clean and

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they aren't full of heavy metals
and toxins.

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And because that's, that's a big
deal with both CBD or, you know,

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hemp and, and mushrooms.
So what you've had other

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products like you've had
colostrum, you've had a

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glutathione product, but this
new glutathione product is

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formulated differently.
What's it done?

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Why did you venture out of hemp
and mushrooms?

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And then what did you do
differently?

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Yeah.
Well, I mean, anytime you think

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about just health in general
with our pets, we, we took a

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step back and we said like, what
are, what are the main things?

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Well, our soft spot is, is
senior dogs like you mentioned

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and we talked about that.
But we're, we're looking at, you

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know, what are the, the common
issues we see?

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And there's a number of ways we
can tackle these issues, but

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like what are the pathways and
what are different ways we can

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address them?
And when you really get down to

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just overall longevity and
health of animals, we looked at

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cellular health and when it
comes to glutathione and, and

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just kind of addressing what we
see is like in today's world, we

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are exposed to so many different
toxins.

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And when we say toxins, I'm
talking about the air pollution,

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what's in our water in terms of
heavy metals and things like

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that.
And, and treatments in our

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water, our food is pretty loaded
with heavy metals as well.

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And it's hard to kind of like
tackle all these things with a

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million different things.
So when we took a step back and

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looked at that, it's like, you
know, when you look at oxidative

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stress, which is just like
aging, that happens naturally as

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we age.
And when you look at pets, they

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age so much faster.
What is the pathway we can

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address that we haven't thought
about yet?

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And during COVID, we, we saw
that a lot of people, you know,

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we were worried about getting
sick and trying to get over

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those colds sometimes.
Sometimes people were getting

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sick for a long time.
And so our chemist was using

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glutathione as a way to kind of
help with those those colds,

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those common colds and things
that we see typically in humans.

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Simultaneously, we had a dog on
the farm named Max and Max was

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16 and you know, he was every
bit of 16.

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He was had achy joints and
things like that.

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And what we saw is like giving
him a ton of CBD would help with

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his achy joints and just like
his discomfort as a 16 year old

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Jack Russell that's been on a
farm, you know, hunting and, you

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know, scavenging, finding dead
rabbits and stuff like that.

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But it would also, like, sedate
him pretty heavily.

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And I don't think that was the
right answer.

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And So what Jeremy started doing
was he started giving him the

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glutathione, and it really
changed how he was absorbing his

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food.
You know, how he's digesting

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things and just his overall
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And so simultaneously, my soul
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either.
And he had a form of cancer.

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fast.
And so I had at that time, I

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thought days with him and I was
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And as most of us get to the
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get older is like, I'll do
anything to say goodbye to them

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a little bit longer.
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can't hurt.
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the glutathione combined with
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CBDA and we saw a huge
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He started eating food again and
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again.
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three months because of that
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product, came in.
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Let me, let me stop you really
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glutathione?
Why?

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Why are we reaching for it?
What does it do in the body?

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So yeah, that's a great, Yeah,
I'm glad you interrupted that.

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So, so let's just back up.
So glutathione is the master

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antioxidant in the body.
It is literally in every cell of

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our body.
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phase one and phase two,
detoxification.

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So it helps to capture and
neutralize toxins in your body

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that we encounter in our food.
And just, you know, household

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cleaners, things like that and
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our body.
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antioxidants in the body like
vitamin C and vitamin E, which

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are super important.
But you know, the thing about

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that is with such a big toxic
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they get older, they don't
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So glutathione is primarily
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It's manufactured in the liver.
And when we started looking at

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Max Life, we were like, OK, this
is a pretty complicated product

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and it's got a pretty low dose
of glutathione and the aminos

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that are the building blocks of
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So what glutathione is, is it
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And it could be a protein.
It's not a protein.

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There's that's a whole different
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But basically we wanted to take
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glutathione in the amino acid
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glutamate and alpha lipoic acid
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These are all things that you
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natural production.
And we wanted to combine those

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with glutathione.
So glutathione, regardless if

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it's absorbed or not, passes
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supplementally pretty quick.
So if you go get an IV for it,

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it'll help you feel really good.
Like for people, if they drink

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too much alcohol, you can go get
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clean that up really quick and
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But it, you basically pass that
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So what we wanted to do is
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that addresses not only giving
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glutathione on the front end
that's going to be absorbable in

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a form which is encapsulated
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gives you that dose of
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amino acids that encourage your
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So we're not just like, here's a
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through and then you're kind of
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being able to remove these
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with.
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product in our liposomal
liposomal glutathione was to

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have like a liver detox system
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glutathione, but also a bigger
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encourage that natural
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So then when you're having these
issues like, you know, the itchy

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scratchies that you just can't
figure out, constant paw

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licking, you know, eye
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wormhole of a million different
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People are just throwing stuff
at a wall a lot of times and we

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and we didn't want them to have
to keep doing that with these

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expensive products.
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glutathione is that it knocks a
lot of these things out really

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quickly or at least gets their
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they're not as irritated by
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And so obviously the pinnacle of
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production or your pets
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is diet.
So fruits and vegetables are

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going to have plenty of
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building blocks to help
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production.
But again, as pets age, they're

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just not able to produce it as
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So we wanted to create something
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supplements that and gives them
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encourages the natural
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OK, I want to keep talking about
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little heavy.
It's a little heavy for people.

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So I want to take a break.
I want to pause that discussion

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and kind of free route a little
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and we'll come back to the study
because I think it is really

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important.
But something else that is also

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important you touched on it is
that like we have really, really

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heavy toxic loads even when we
try to do our best, like we're

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actually aware, which a lot of
people aren't aware of the toxic

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loads on them, much less their
pets.

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Because we are bigger, we can
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We go outside and we off gas,
like our cats especially aren't

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really doing that.
But the world we live in, what

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we have created, what we've done
to it is just so toxic.

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Like you said, our air, our
water, that doesn't even include

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cleaners and fabric softeners
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and beauty products and all of
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Like, I know I have one client
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working together, one of the
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was, you know, she's just that
age where I had to ask her the

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question, do you have any sort
of like topical cream for

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hormone therapy?
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that's not being transferred to
your dog when you're petting

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that.
Like there are so many things we

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don't think about and it is a
just a really, really toxic

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world.
That being said, there are also,

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oh, many supplements out there
for pets.

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I mean, not even getting into
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for pets.
It's really, really highly

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unregulated, which is a good
thing and a bad thing in some

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ways, depending on how you look
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regulatory bodies can also suck,
which we were talking about

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before we started recording.
Why, why do why do people trust

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earth buddy for supplements for
their pets?

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When we, when we look at it this
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the shiny objects out there,
there are so many supplements,

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what do we choose?
This one's cheaper.

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I can get it at Target.
Why shouldn't I just get this

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one?
Why do people trust Earth Buddy

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in this kind of context?
Of yeah, I think it's.

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I think it's an important note.
So I think one of the things

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that we really tried to do even
prior to having third party

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certifications or any of that
for this, for the category that

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we're in of you know, primarily
CBD mushrooms and just natural

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supplements is we found that
nobody was sharing third party

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lab tests and.
When we started looking at that,

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we said, well, well, how does
the cannabis industry do it?

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And so in Colorado, if you're a
manufacturer here in Colorado,

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there's a certain requirements
that you have to test for with

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finished products, but also just
with us partnering with a farm

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and having kind of full
transparency and traceability of

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the product, we want to test,
you know, at the plant level.

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And so we're required to test in
multiple ways and have licensing

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to do so.
So we when we were creating

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that, we're like, OK, with any
of our suppliers, we should have

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third party testing.
So with all of our products, we

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have QR codes, regardless if
it's ACBD product or not that

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they can go and scan and go to
our third party lab tests on our

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website and we share that by
lock code and everything.

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So full transparency is such a
big deal because you want to

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know what you're buying.
If something says, you know, 100

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milligrams on it, I want to see
that they have a third party lab

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test that has no association
with that company that they paid

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for a lab test.
And you know, I think it's a

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really big deal now, not as much
as we'd like, but you know, I

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think more companies are doing
that.

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But we wanted to take that a
step further and say, OK, we're

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not just going to do that with
CBD.

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We're going to do that with
mushrooms.

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We're going to show the potency
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And that just doesn't mean
saying like, oh, there's 100

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milligrams of lines mean in this
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We want to say, OK, what are the
active compounds in there?

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And we want to test for those
and we want to show that those

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are in there.
So you know, the the active

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compounds that are primarily
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instance, is beta glucans, which
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compounds that help with a
number of different things.

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There's also ergathionine, which
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in mushrooms.
And then the really cool 1 is

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that mushrooms contain
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So we are now testing for those.
I think, you know, when it comes

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to quality and trust, I think
the first step is, you know,

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with any ingredient, not just
CBD or cannabis or hemp, is to

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do they have lab tests that
show, you know, that it is what

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you're buying?
And do they have tests that show

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that there it's free of heavy
metals, chemical pesticides,

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mycotoxins, that there's a
million things that we should be

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testing for and we can trace all
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So it's, it's important to start
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On the glutathione side, we
actually had to create because

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we, we neighbor next to a, a
testing lab, we had to create an

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assay to create the glutathione
test to find out like, OK, we

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want to say there's this much
glutathione in there and this

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is, you know how much you're
getting when you're, you're

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using this product.
So that was a whole fun road to

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go down because in part of that
testing we had to give a lot of

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different samples and we used
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And we're like, I had no idea
that glutathione just naturally

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occurs in mushrooms.
So, yeah, really cool ways of

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finding out what's actually in
the product and the active

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ingredients that we're putting
on the label.

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That's so interesting.
Great.

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And I still have questions about
this.

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What I mean not question some,
some questions maybe, but I have

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definitely come into contact
with companies, especially

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companies that are putting out
products for humans.

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Like, just the other day,
somebody asked me about this

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like mushroom coffee thing,
which obviously is for humans,

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not, not for pets.
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said.
I was like, I'm looking at the

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website.
I don't see a COAI, don't know

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if they're testing for, you
know, the efficacy of the

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mushrooms.
I don't know, they're testing

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the heavy metals.
I don't know, like, and what was

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interesting was that they
contacted the company and asked

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for it.
And they were like, yeah, here

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it is.
But like, why aren't you putting

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it on the website?
Why are you making so people

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jump through like that is
bothersome to me.

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And speak to that a little bit.
And, and there's a lot of, I

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don't want to say there's a lot
of like lack of information and

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understanding like what's
important in the mushroom world.

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So in the world right now, we
know there's, there's compounds

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that have been studied and show
benefits for XYZ.

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The dosage of them is really
confusing because we're like,

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well, we're not isolating that
one compound.

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We're using a whole mushroom.
And in our case, we're using the

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fruit body and the mycelium.
And there's compounds in both

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that are really if beneficial.
And so really what most, you

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know, I'm kind of sticking up
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There's a synergistic effect
that you cannot sit there and

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say it has that one compound, so
therefore it's better because

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there might be some other
synergistic compounds that even

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though it's not in a big level,
that compound you're looking

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for, it works synergistically
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That, that's why a lot of
companies I think are not

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sharing those things.
And I, I think that's not the

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end of the world.
I think more importantly is just

441
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,000
knowing that it's safe because
we have to start there is, is

442
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960
knowing that the companies are
doing that and that that company

443
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,720
was willing to share that.
So I think there's a lot of kind

444
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,400
of, I guess controversy a little
bit, but like of like what is

445
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,560
the efficacious level of, you
know, beta glucans or

446
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,680
cortiscepin and Cordyceps or
erinacines and lion's mane, like

447
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,080
all these different really
complicated compounds.

448
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,960
But ultimately what we think is
there needs to be a synergistic

449
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,720
effect when you talk about a
natural supplement and the goal

450
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,120
for earth body is to keep it as
natural as it was when it was

451
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:10,760
growing in the wild or in the
ground as possible because we

452
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,080
feel like that that synergistic
effect is more important.

453
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,160
The idea behind that or the
entourage effect when we talk

454
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,680
about cannabis or hemp is the
idea of we want the minimal

455
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,080
effective dose to achieve the
desired response without side

456
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,520
effects with like, we don't want
you to have to use a lot.

457
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840
And this is a conversation I
have all the time with my

458
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760
parents is like with any of our
supplements, we'd rather you

459
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,080
start much, much lower and get
the desired effect you're

460
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
looking for.
And then that product lasts

461
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,800
longer rather than thinking more
is better.

462
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,880
And that's more of that Western
drug or pharmaceutical mentality

463
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,440
or western medicine mentality of
like, you know, more is better.

464
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,200
We got to load the dose on the
front end, those kind of things.

465
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720
We're not talking about a build
up either.

466
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800
I, I, I hear that phrase a lot.
It's like, oh, I got to build it

467
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,160
up.
Yes and no.

468
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,600
What we say is it's more you're
training their, their system or

469
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,640
whatever pathway you're trying
to work on your training that to

470
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,520
operate a little bit more
efficiently.

471
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,920
So in the case of cannabis,
we're like, OK, we're using CBD

472
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,840
or, you know, a CBDA, we want to
engage their cannabinoid system

473
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,840
to start responding more
efficiently or inactivating more

474
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,160
efficiently than it was, whether
it's dealing with stress or achy

475
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320
joints.
In the glutathione case, it's

476
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,000
like, hey, your pet is getting
older, they're starting to slow

477
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,120
down.
Their personality is starting

478
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,640
to, you know, they're being more
tired or lethargic.

479
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,360
If we can load their body with
antioxidants and then signal to

480
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,000
their their antioxidant
production pathways, well,

481
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,960
that's going to help them feel
better and be a little bit more

482
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,480
rambunctious.
So I think when we talk about

483
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,000
natural supplements, it's so
easy to kind of relate it to

484
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,880
drugs, and I think that's the
wrong way.

485
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,640
I think we're using a supplement
to actually add to their diet

486
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,520
and the natural things they're
doing.

487
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,680
So, OK, let's jump back over to
the glutathione.

488
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,760
I I had one person that I was
working with.

489
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,280
She was actually a veterinarian
and she had been working with

490
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,800
her dogs for quite a while.
They were both really itchy, had

491
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,840
tons of environmental and food
sensitivities.

492
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,120
She did a lot over the course of
the few months that I knew,

493
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,600
like, we were working together
and switching their foods and

494
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
trialing different food, doing
all kinds of things, onboarding

495
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,880
different supplements.
And she did like, she got them

496
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,480
to a point where she was like,
OK, like, yes, they're still a

497
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200
little bit itchy, but it's so
much more manageable.

498
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,000
They're not like, bleeding.
They're not killing themselves

499
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,280
over it anymore.
And as soon as this new

500
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,080
glutathione product came up on
the website, she ordered it.

501
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,600
And within about a week she was
like, this was this what we

502
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,360
needed to get over that hump?
They're not itching anymore.

503
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,120
So that has been like one of the
biggest like, Oh my gosh, this

504
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840
was this was amazing.
Thank you for having me add this

505
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,200
into my pets routine stories
that I've had.

506
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,600
But what did you do?
Like what was the study for?

507
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,480
What were you studying?
How did you study it?

508
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Like tell me about.
That the study is not underway

509
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,280
yet.
Actually, we're.

510
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,400
OK.
We're going to start enrolling

511
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320
people and I'm glad you brought
it up because I need to promote

512
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,960
it as much as possible for the
idea behind it is so many dogs

513
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:49,560
coming to the vet practice and
have elevated liver enzymes.

514
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,240
And what we see in our world,
especially a CBD company that

515
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,280
makes different hemp
supplements, we see dogs that

516
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,320
use CBD consistently are almost
always going to have elevated

517
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,880
liver enzymes.
And so that's not necessarily a

518
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,880
bad thing, but some enzymes can
be a indicator of other issues

519
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
going on.
So what we would like to see is

520
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:22,120
that these dogs with chronically
elevated liver enzymes can see a

521
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,960
lowering of those enzymes in a
30 day period.

522
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,640
So we want to get pet owners
that have these consistent

523
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,760
issues, have a recent liver
panel that shows that their

524
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000
enzymes are elevated and then we
want to get them on the

525
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,240
glutathione and see over that 30
day period when we test again

526
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,000
that those enzymes have gone
down.

527
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,160
So we'll be enrolling in that
probably we'll probably start

528
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,800
promoting it in the next week or
two.

529
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,760
So I don't know when this is
going to come out.

530
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,040
So hopefully by then we can
really promote that because

531
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,520
ideally we want 30 dogs.
We're not going to have dogs

532
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,000
that are, you know, like have
liver disease or anything.

533
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,200
We want a relatively healthy
pets to kind of conduct this

534
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
pilot study because what we
really want to do is this is a

535
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,680
pilot study to just kind of show
here's our here's our take and

536
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,320
here's what we think it can do.
And if it does, that should lead

537
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,240
to bigger studies in
supplementing not only

538
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,480
glutathione, but these amino
acids to dogs that have these

539
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,800
liver issues.
And we can do a much broader

540
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,880
study across a bigger population
and really get some good data to

541
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,960
support what we're talking about
here.

542
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:43,160
So to meet like I know with my
dog Kim, she's a smaller dog and

543
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,840
the first time I ever did blood
work on her, which was about

544
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,400
three years ago, which was
crazy.

545
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
I don't know what happened, why
I didn't have blood work done on

546
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
her.
I think it's just because a lot

547
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,600
of veterinarians are like your
dogs healthy.

548
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,520
We don't need to do blood work
on them.

549
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
And until they're like getting
into their senior years and then

550
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920
they're always going to be like,
Oh yeah, we just need to do

551
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560
routine blood work.
But she had elevated liver

552
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,360
enzymes.
And what was interesting was

553
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,680
that I did start her on a full
spectrum hemp and the, gosh, I

554
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,800
hope I don't get this wrong.
It was her ALT that was elevated

555
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,960
and the CBD decreased her ALT
but increased her ALPI believe

556
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,320
it was.
And I was like, well, OK, I'm OK

557
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520
with that.
Like I was expecting that at

558
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
least.
And I was like, OK, great.

559
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:34,080
We got her liver enzymes down.
So to me, I'm like, OK, that

560
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440
might be the kind of dog you
were you're thinking of.

561
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Like she's just she's healthy,
she's getting along just fine.

562
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,680
But like her liver enzymes were
were elevated and you're like

563
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840
well, glutathione can help with
but.

564
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Yeah.
So the idea is like for in in

565
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,520
that case is like we we don't
necessarily know what the issue

566
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,640
is and and necessarily be an
issue, but we want to see that

567
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,760
those enzymes can go down
because it doesn't always mean

568
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,360
something bad.
So that might prevent, you know,

569
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,120
like significant cost and going
to the vet and having these

570
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,560
further tests and biopsies and
all kinds of really like

571
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,600
stressful things on the pet,
especially as they're getting

572
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880
older.
If you don't mind, I'd like to

573
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
back up a little bit because
when we talk about glutathione,

574
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,760
I think it's very important that
we address just like main

575
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,400
pillars of health and know you
do this with everybody.

576
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,200
But I think if we just take a
step back when we talk about

577
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,240
just aging in our pets and
ourselves, some basic levers

578
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,240
that we can pull are, you know,
exercise and not over exercising

579
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,000
because over exercising can tax
glutathione production and in

580
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,120
stores.
So I think regular exercise,

581
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:56,720
good quality exercise, I think
avoiding ultra processed foods

582
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,840
and this is all I know, but I, I
think it, it's so important to

583
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,480
say because I think when you say
glutathione one, it's a mouthful

584
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,480
of a word.
People, you know, even people I

585
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,239
really respect in the veterinary
and just overall health

586
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,679
community barely know what it is
still.

587
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,560
So when we talk about
glutathione, it's like if we're

588
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,600
eating too much ultra processed
food, we're not exercising

589
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,199
enough, we're in a house that
we're using household chemicals

590
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:34,520
or we're on the other side of it
is we're we're on a number of

591
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,679
pharmaceuticals that can really
tax the liver as well and

592
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,080
decrease that glutathione
production.

593
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,360
This is the master antioxidant
of the body.

594
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:50,360
It is completely vital at the
cellular level in every person

595
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,320
and pet that we're talking about
today.

596
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,239
So it is such an important
antioxidant that we need.

597
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,480
And when we start to diminish it
or, you know, tax the liver and

598
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880
its ability to produce that we
are going to age faster.

599
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,480
That's, I mean, that's the
bottom line.

600
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,320
So I, I just wanted to back up
and, and just address that

601
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,800
because I think with just
regular, you know, exercise and

602
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,760
avoiding ultra processed foods,
we can really help maintain that

603
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,720
natural production.
But then, you know, as we get

604
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,800
older, I think there's nothing
wrong with supplementing it.

605
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000
And, and that's where we can
step in.

606
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Like the story you shared, I
think that's typically what

607
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640
we're hearing across the board
because we knew Max Life was

608
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,720
already kind of doing this, but
it had a lot of other

609
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,760
antioxidants like vitamin C.
It had flavonoids that like

610
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,760
quercetin, which is like, you
know, nature's Benadryl, I've

611
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
heard it called.
It has things like elderberry,

612
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,800
which contains quercetin and has
a ton of vitamin C in it.

613
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,200
We, we have a very complicated
product in Max Life.

614
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,360
We're like people don't really
understand what Max Life is and

615
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,000
it's a lower dose and it's a
more like just antioxidant

616
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,240
flush.
Let's create an actual like

617
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:13,080
detox system that we think is
going to be a little bit more

618
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160
comprehensive and a little bit
stronger when you have the

619
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680
issues like the vet that you're
working with.

620
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,960
And so many pet owners that I
talked to in kind of the pre

621
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,200
launch of the product was like,
hey, my dog has this thing on

622
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,680
their ear and they just itch it
to death in certain times of the

623
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160
year, like in the fall when they
start fertilizing all the lawns,

624
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,800
especially if you live in an
apartment, they are treating all

625
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,280
the lawns across the country and
dogs are itchy and scratchy like

626
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,720
crazy.
This is something that we can

627
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,760
use to kind of help them be less
irritated during that time.

628
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
And, you know, we're really
thinking this is probably going

629
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,280
to be a supplement that you can
use, you know, in certain times

630
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,600
of the year or to kind of
knockout an issue and then get

631
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,320
the other supplements or other,
you know, whole food additives

632
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,320
that you can add into the diet
that are really beneficial and

633
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,760
they'll absorb them better.
So two things.

634
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,600
One, I think what you just said,
or at least how I put it

635
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,560
together, was that the liposomal
glutathione product is going to

636
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:22,320
be like a we need something big.
Let's get in here, get these

637
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,600
this detox going.
Really help the body supported

638
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,360
with the glutathione with with
the everything to support the

639
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
body's own natural production of
glutathione like like a cute we

640
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,680
need to get this done and then
maybe supporting that system

641
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,800
afterwards with the Max life.
Yeah, and I think it's yes.

642
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,800
And, and I'm glad you heard it
that way because really what

643
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,040
we're thinking because again, we
don't know your pet, you know

644
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,800
your pet better than us.
And So what we're trying to say

645
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,160
is like, hey, if there's
something like really

646
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,720
challenging that you cannot
figure out and you're spinning

647
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,160
your wheels, I have them on
Apoquel.

648
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160
I have them on site a point
whatever cuz they're scratching

649
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440
their face off.
I don't shame people for having

650
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,080
to use pharmaceuticals.
They are necessary.

651
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,240
They work cuz they're drugs and
they pay a lot of money to study

652
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,040
them and prove their efficacy.
I understand that.

653
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:21,040
However that's not something 99%
of pet parents want to be on for

654
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,960
the rest of their the animal's
life.

655
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,240
And a lot of times when you
constantly have to use those

656
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,960
pharmaceuticals, it does tax
other things.

657
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,800
There's always trade-offs with
this stuff.

658
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,760
So what we are thinking is like,
hey, if there's something that

659
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,040
you just cannot figure out and
things aren't working, this is a

660
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,440
really great option that at
minimum can flood their body

661
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,160
with antioxidants to start the
detoxification process, remove

662
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,120
those bad thing, capture and
neutralize those those toxins.

663
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,480
And now they're in a better
place that some of these things

664
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
that they're already doing or
have already considered doing

665
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
will really take effect a lot
better.

666
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080
To that point, what you said is
yes, if it's something that we

667
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880
need to address right on the
nose, let's get them on the

668
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,840
higher dose liver detox system.
And then once they're through

669
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,520
that, transitioning to a more
maintenance with the Max life

670
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,160
would be an amazing option.
What we found since we've had

671
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,320
Max lifeout for almost five
years now, what we found is

672
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,960
people can stay on that pretty
consistently without issue.

673
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,800
What I see, you know, kind of on
the initial launch since we've

674
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:38,080
launched at Superzu in Las Vegas
is if they knock out that issue

675
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,240
with the the new product of
liposomal glutathione in a

676
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,640
higher dose, they don't
necessarily need to stay on it.

677
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,400
And I think, you know, again,
some, some parents can think

678
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,880
more is better.
And so if you use too much, you

679
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,800
might cause some digestive upset
just like any supplement.

680
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,680
And I think they can actually
start reducing that dosage and

681
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,280
just kind of create a
maintenance.

682
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,560
Level dose and so even just
using the new product, even

683
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
though it's a higher dose, you
can just reduce the dosage and

684
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,720
still kind of signal to that
glutathione production to

685
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:17,480
produce more naturally.
The second thing was I wanted to

686
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960
maybe put a little bit more
context around what you were

687
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,360
saying about diet and exercise,
and maybe you can help fill in

688
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,760
the blanks for me if I have any
in this.

689
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,480
I don't even know who I'm like
pulling this reference from

690
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,640
because I feel like I've heard
so many different people say it

691
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,400
in so many different contexts.
But if we look at like our dog's

692
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,040
body or even just specifically
their liver as like a glass,

693
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,600
like a that you would drink out
of, like a glass that you would

694
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,360
drink out of.
And all of the things that the

695
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,800
liver has to do, the liver has
to process.

696
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,040
So the cleaner that you used on
the floor last night, the air

697
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,240
freshener that you have plugged
into the wall, the chemicals

698
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,480
that are sprayed on the lawn,
the vaccine that they got 6810

699
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,400
months ago.
The like all of the things are

700
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,720
adding into that cup that the
liver is having to deal with

701
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:16,440
the, the AG ES and all of the
oxidated fats or whatever in the

702
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,680
kibble that you're feeding them,
the ultra processed foods, the

703
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,960
like everything is just adding
and adding and adding to where

704
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,000
the liver is like so
overwhelmed.

705
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,360
And so yes, a product in the way
I'm seeing it, a product like

706
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,320
the liposomal glutathione was
going to help, especially the,

707
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,800
the higher dose one that we're
talking about today is going to

708
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080
help and knock those things
down.

709
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,000
But you also need to be working
on reducing those things for

710
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,280
them as well to to kind of keep
their liver at a point where

711
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,360
they can actually manage it
better.

712
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,320
Yeah.
Does that is that?

713
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,400
That's a great way to put it.
And so when you think about the

714
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,080
toxic burden that our liver is
already undergoing as just

715
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,360
living in on earth, you know,
and, and living in America and,

716
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,640
you know, the, the lack of
regulation on certain things and

717
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,320
the over prescribing of certain
medications, specifically ones

718
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,000
that, you know, the liver has to
process.

719
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,520
I think it's important that we
address that filter that

720
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,160
literally cleans our blood and
then reintroduces glutathione

721
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,680
back into the body so it can
fight off these common colds

722
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,560
and, you know, these typical
things that we encounter and in

723
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,840
our daily life.
I think you have to address

724
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,040
that, you know, in your home
first.

725
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240
But you know, I, I say this all
the time and I, I'll relate it

726
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,440
back to CBD.
It's like CBD is amazing at

727
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,680
calming pets and it acts on
certain pathways like our

728
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160
serotonin pathway and, and
things like that.

729
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,520
It helps engage the cannabinoid
system to help, you know,

730
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400
balance mood and things like
that.

731
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,080
However, if your pet is
overweight, they are eating

732
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,360
ultra processed food, you are in
the house and you might not be

733
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,400
getting along with your spouse
and you're yelling all the time

734
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,560
and there's stress and there's
the job.

735
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,800
And it's like, how many things
does CBD have to lift up to to

736
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,640
fix all those things?
So I think, yeah, it's always

737
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,480
important to point out like, you
know, you got to look at your

738
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,360
lifestyle a little bit and
really start making those

739
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120
choices for yourself.
And I think it's it's our duty

740
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,080
as pet owners to take care of
ourself just as much because if

741
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,640
we're not healthy, how can they
be?

742
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,520
I talked a lot about this and I
know you just talked to her too,

743
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,000
a doctor, Barry Sands.
And, you know, she is really

744
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,240
changed my whole perspective on
how we interact with our pets

745
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,280
and just in general, our
relationships and how much

746
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:58,000
affect our our mind and our
heart can really change the way

747
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,760
we interact with other people
and other beings for that

748
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,440
matter.
So I think, you know, this is

749
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,120
the holistic way of like we're
not just addressing the whole

750
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,000
body, we're addressing the world
around us and how we interact

751
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,800
with it.
And I think that's a better way

752
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,960
to kind of explain holistic
health is like, it is so much

753
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,720
more than just like supplements
and diet.

754
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:27,040
It is, you know, how we are,
our, our relationships are and

755
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,760
how we're treating people.
I think that's a bigger topic

756
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,440
than we're discussing today.
But I think it's worth noting

757
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,760
because I, I think sometimes we
want to just have a pill for

758
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,320
something and, and cross our
fingers and hope it works.

759
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,360
But I think, you know, I, the
idea behind taking this holistic

760
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,800
approach is to, yes, let's use
supplements, let's feed better

761
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,800
food, but let's work on
ourselves.

762
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,000
Let's work on how we feel, how,
you know, our breath work and,

763
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,480
and all those different things.
Because especially with our

764
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,080
pets, they are so in tune with
their world and we are their

765
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,840
world and they rely on us to
manage their mood a lot of times

766
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,640
and we don't realize it.
And so making sure our mood is

767
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,200
in a calm state and we're taking
care of ourselves will really

768
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040
help their overall health as
well.

769
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,000
Between yesterday and today,
everything is making me want to

770
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,720
cry.
I'm like tearing up over here.

771
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,960
But I also think that just every
time I'm in the presence of

772
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Doctor Barry Sands, I'm like she
is such a safe energy that she

773
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,040
and Pam camera cell.
They I literally like I get in

774
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,000
their energy field and my body
is like I'm going to cry now.

775
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,600
I don't know what it is, but
yeah, no, she, she's amazing.

776
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:56,680
And I think that one thing you
said to, to kind of pull me out

777
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,760
of this little emotional state
that I'm in that bothers me so

778
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,760
much.
And I talk to people about this

779
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:10,320
a lot, especially the people
that I'm mentoring through a

780
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,840
certification program that, that
I, that I work with is that that

781
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,720
is one of the things that we
really have to train ourselves

782
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,760
to do is to get out of that
idea.

783
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,360
Like the idea that there is a
pill for every I'll.

784
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,520
So instead of OK, this is what's
going on with this dog.

785
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,600
What can I give them?
Which is always the first

786
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,960
question out of almost
everybody's mouth.

787
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,280
I want like I try to teach
people to say, OK, what do we

788
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,000
need to do to support this dog
in a more holistic way, which to

789
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,880
me means addressing their
environment, addressing the

790
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,960
energy in the home.
Like there's so many things that

791
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,280
we can affect change on before
we ever reach for a supplement.

792
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Not to say that we don't need
supplements because like I just

793
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,120
said before, we live in a very
toxic world and we can do the

794
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,080
absolute best we can to feed the
best diet and, you know, even

795
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,520
try to source regeneratively
farmed and ranched plants and

796
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,600
animals and do all the things.
But like our soil doesn't have

797
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,480
the same nutrient level that it
did 100 years.

798
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Like our air and our water, you
know, glyphosate is ubiquitous.

799
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,320
Like it's falling in the rain
and even on the organic crops,

800
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,960
like the rain is full of like
there are still things that we

801
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,440
are going to have to do.
And we do have to,

802
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,920
unfortunately, I think reach for
supplements in a lot of cases.

803
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,240
But yeah.
So that's my Ted Talk.

804
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:39,560
Thank you for coming.
No, I think there's a couple

805
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,480
things there.
You can't, you know, the typical

806
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,960
saying I've heard, you know on
the human side especially is you

807
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,240
can't out supplement a bad diet.
Yeah.

808
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
But I would even argue a step
further, you can out supplement

809
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,960
a toxic environment.
Yeah.

810
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,800
And, and that that goes to like,
you know, your living situation,

811
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,080
what it's like in the home and,
and you know, if it's just

812
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,240
constant stress and, and I'll
just be totally honest, I think

813
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:09,440
with my soul dog Tito, you know,
one of the biggest things that I

814
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,400
learned from him, because we
always say this in every podcast

815
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,160
I've ever done, is like, they
are our best teachers.

816
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,640
And what I learned from him and
what I think he did for me is I

817
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,080
was going to a really tough time
and I put him under a lot of

818
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,400
stress.
I moved during COVID.

819
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Like, you know, I changed my
living situation.

820
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,440
I brought in a dog six months
prior that was blind and deaf.

821
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,880
You know, that's my Iggy girl,
you know, like all these things

822
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,200
I stacked on him.
And I think he just took it on

823
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,320
for me because they love us so
much and they go, I'll take this

824
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,320
for you.
And it breaks my heart to talk

825
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,840
about it.
Sorry to bring it back to the

826
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,000
emotional level, but the point
is, is like, I think we, we kind

827
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,640
of discount, you know, our, our
current situation.

828
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,240
Sometimes the other side of it
is, I think when we do

829
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,120
supplement things, if you really
want to understand how a

830
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,880
supplement works and you want
to, you know, you've already

831
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,520
done the due diligence of making
sure it's a quality product and

832
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,240
there's third party lab testing
and all that good stuff.

833
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,600
I think it's important to
mention to, I can't discount

834
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:22,960
enough to journal and journaling
can be in the form of a couple

835
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,240
things.
It could literally be a note in

836
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,600
your phone.
It can literally be on a scratch

837
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,320
piece of paper with the date and
something that you can

838
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,840
reference.
And that could be like starting

839
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,360
on our glutathione on day one to
day 30.

840
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,280
And just looking back, because a
lot of times if you can bring

841
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,920
that to even your traditional
vet and say I journaled about

842
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,520
this and this is what I saw,
they can probably gain a lot of

843
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,320
insight into the living
situation and how to address the

844
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,600
pet in front of them.
Which is what the best bets I've

845
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,120
worked with do is they don't
address just across the board

846
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,680
broad stroke.
Every pet needs this or I do

847
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,400
this for every pet with this
issue.

848
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,800
I think it's important to
journal because you can give

849
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,480
that veterinarian some really
great insight into what's going

850
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,040
on on a day-to-day basis.
So it also kind of tells you

851
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,160
what's going on at home too,
because if you can look back and

852
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400
go, oh, they had a really bad
day that day.

853
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,920
What was going on with me?
And then you think about it and

854
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,560
you're like, Oh yeah, that that
that's usually can help you just

855
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120
as much as the veterinarian, if
not more.

856
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,280
Help the pet owner kind of
understand what's working and

857
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,280
what isn't.
So this might be the hardest

858
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440
question of the whole whole
interview.

859
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,000
We've, OK, I think we've
established how important

860
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,360
glutathione is in the body.
Yes, the body makes it on its

861
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:59,360
own, but sometimes, a lot of
times, there's just not enough

862
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,360
to go around for everything that
it needs to be doing, and as we

863
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,360
age, we naturally produce less
of it.

864
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,240
That being said, even though I
know this and I have known this

865
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,840
for many years because I was
trained on it, I still haven't

866
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,480
reached for it a lot prior to
this product at least because I

867
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,440
just kept hearing it's nasty my
dog won't take it right?

868
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,160
And then I feel like I'm
recommending A supplement that

869
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,120
somebody wasted their money on
cuz I can't even get get it in

870
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,080
their dog.
Talk to me about how we get this

871
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,280
product into our dogs.
Yeah.

872
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,120
I mean, with everything we make,
we have concentrated forms that

873
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,560
are not going to be a, a animal
that primarily needs meat

874
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
protein.
And also like, you know, feeding

875
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,920
a sufficient amount of protein
to your animal is a great way to

876
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,400
improve glutathione production.
However, again, as they age,

877
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,840
it's it's tough and as they age,
they do get pickier sometimes,

878
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080
especially if they're really
feeling crappy.

879
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:06,480
So our whole thing is make the
experience enjoyable and that's

880
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,520
anywhere from the hemp side to
the mushroom side and to, you

881
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,560
know, colostrum and glutathione.
We want to make palatable

882
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,320
options.
We want to make treat forms.

883
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,520
That's easy delivery mechanism.
But like you said with your pet,

884
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
she won't eat treats that and we
understand that.

885
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,520
So I think in my opinion, having
a capsule in a powder form and

886
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,320
then having a glutathione that's
encapsulated, you can easily mix

887
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,240
it in something yummy.
There are so many products out

888
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:40,880
there that are really palatable
and stinky enough that the pet

889
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,400
owner knows the favorite treat
that they can sneak this in.

890
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,720
So I'll give you an example
because Tito, my little guy,

891
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:54,160
when he was going through his
cancer issues, he was not eating

892
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,120
anything.
I couldn't get anything in his

893
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,760
body.
So I had to have the most

894
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,760
elaborate way to get in his
body.

895
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,360
And what I did was I, you know,
and this is not ideal

896
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,760
nutritionally, but you know,
when your pet is basically

897
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,480
dying, you'll do anything to get
food in their body because

898
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,880
you're like, do you have to eat?
I need you.

899
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,400
And this is the selfish part of
Sean, the pet owner talking.

900
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,840
So what I did was I take, I took
a piece of ham lunch meat.

901
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,240
I put honey on the ham.
I, I sprinkled honey on the ham.

902
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,560
Then I would sprinkle most of
his supplements, primarily was

903
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,840
the Max life at that time with
the glutathione.

904
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,320
I'd sprinkle that on the honey
and then I would sprinkle cheese

905
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,240
all over the honey and I would
roll it up like in like a little

906
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,840
tube and I would break it off
and give it to him in chunks and

907
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,160
he would actually eat that.
That was the only way I can get

908
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,960
it in his body.
And that is like the most

909
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,920
extreme case, But you know, most
dogs, if you can just mix it in

910
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,840
their food, great, That's fine.
If you can just mix it in a

911
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,000
light snack with some like
freeze dried, you know, powder

912
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,320
that you can crumble from a
treat, great.

913
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,000
You know, whatever you got to do
to get it in their body, but

914
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,400
make the experience enjoyable.
What I don't want parents to

915
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,680
worry about is their stress
levels going up and giving it to

916
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,560
them so much.
Now their pet is stressed and

917
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,960
they know something's up and we
hear this a lot with like cat

918
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,960
owners and giving, you know, CBD
and the oil form to their cat

919
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,040
and it's like, I don't know, we
don't need to stress about this.

920
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,240
Make the experience enjoyable
and at worst with like a cat on

921
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,560
the hemp side, you know, even
putting it on their paw, maybe

922
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,400
they don't get the desired dose
you're going for, but them just

923
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,040
licking a little bit off well at
least engage their cannabinoid

924
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,080
system.
But for a pill or a powder, I

925
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,880
really think just finding sneaky
ways to put it in something

926
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,000
really yummy is better than not
getting anything in their body

927
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,920
or having to go further.
And you know, now you're, you're

928
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,760
so stressed, you got to take him
to the vet.

929
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Well, they're already stressed
because you're stressed and now

930
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,880
you're taking to the vet, which
I don't know any animals that

931
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,840
are pumped about going to the
vet unless you have a vet like

932
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,480
I've had in the past that like
is in a house and it's a little

933
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,800
bit more in setting, but those
are few and far between for most

934
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,240
people.
So I think finding that like

935
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:26,760
special treat and making it more
of a reward of like, Hey, I'm

936
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,440
going to give you that special
treat, but also I'm sneaking

937
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,400
this in on the back end is a
such a better way.

938
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,640
And then we also have a whole
host of YouTube videos and how

939
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,160
we show, we mix our supplements
in and we're not necessarily

940
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,320
using the new product in the
videos, but we are using our

941
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,440
mushroom capsules that have CBD
in them that it has a smell to

942
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,680
it.
It's pretty pungent.

943
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,920
Our colostrum or any of our
other products that we've used

944
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,560
in the videos where we're just
like, hey, this is how we mix it

945
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,200
in.
We use warm water to make it

946
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,920
bring out the smell of the the
freeze dried meat, but we have a

947
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,280
number of ways we can do that
and we have plenty of

948
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,520
information on the site as well.
But our YouTube is a really good

949
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,040
resource for like how to sneak
stuff in pets food without you

950
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,760
having to stress about it.
I like that a lot.

951
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,280
I need that in my life right
now.

952
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Because she is.
Yeah, I actually, most of her

953
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,880
supplements are not like that.
Most of her supplements are food

954
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,360
supplements, yeah.
But yeah, yeah, like that.

955
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,360
There's always times when you're
like, how am I going to get this

956
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,640
in my dog?
Yeah, I had that issue with with

957
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,040
pets that were on
pharmaceuticals.

958
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Like, yes, all the pills you get
are like really big and yeah,

959
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,880
like I can crush it up and put
it in powder and stuff like

960
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,920
that.
But it's like it's still gross.

961
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,160
It's not going to taste good to
them.

962
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,320
And eventually they're going to
get, they're going to get in the

963
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,280
habit of knowing it.
So, you know, you can make it

964
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,040
kind of fun for yourself and,
and if you feed like us, where

965
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,080
you're probably having like a
whole production about it, you

966
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,560
can make it a little bit more
extensive in the sense of like

967
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,440
you can create variety for them
and you can introduce new things

968
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,160
that, you know, hey, I haven't
tried.

969
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,240
Like, you know, we have a
company here in Colorado that

970
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,240
sells these giant anchovies and
I thought them they're frozen

971
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,080
when we get them, like they're
in big blocks and they're huge

972
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,080
anchovies.
And what I would do with Iggy is

973
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,480
I would just like smush those up
into like a fish mush.

974
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,480
And it was disgusting, but she
loved it.

975
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,360
And I can put anything in that
stuff.

976
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,640
She didn't care what it was.
She would.

977
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,720
So I think people sometimes just
kind of like overwhelm

978
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,600
themselves, which then, you
know, leeches on to our pets and

979
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,480
they sense that.
But I think there's so many good

980
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,800
products out there and whole
food, you know, meat sources

981
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,880
that we can give to animals and
sneak this stuff in.

982
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,200
And I don't want people to have
more stress than they're trying

983
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:02,400
to reduce and their pet.
Yes, we need stress reduction

984
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,080
for sure.
All right, well, I think I, you

985
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,400
know, I might could get this out
earlier so people can hear about

986
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,640
you needing participants for the
study and we can, we can make

987
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,960
that happen.
So how do people sign up for

988
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480
that or send you information for
that, or what are you looking

989
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,320
for?
Yeah, definitely, definitely

990
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,640
reach out to earthbuddypet.com.
You can just go to our contact

991
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,520
us page and just let us know
that you're interested.

992
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,960
Also, Doctor Ruth and her whole
community and the holistic pet

993
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,920
health coaches are going to be
really pushing this out there.

994
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,440
And then I'm going to be relying
on on people like yourself and

995
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,840
your community and all the
awesome people that we work with

996
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,560
to really get the word out
because we want as many

997
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,680
enrollments as possible.
We want as many people to be

998
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,560
involved as possible because
even if they don't get selected

999
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,480
for the actual study, we are
going to create some things to,

1000
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,960
you know, at least incentivize
or discount the product and they

1001
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,840
can actually follow along with
the study even if they're not

1002
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,040
selected because we want as much
feedback as possible.

1003
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,800
What we don't know about
glutathione and in the dosage

1004
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:22,480
side is like we have a very low
kind of starting dose on our

1005
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,200
product, but we want more
feedback in the way of like

1006
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,040
different size animals because
what we find with dogs is like

1007
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,000
one, there's just like they
could be the same size dog, but

1008
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,560
they might not need as big of a
dose.

1009
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,760
So we want to be very detailed
and how we explain the dosage of

1010
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,560
this product, just like CBD and
to him, there's different

1011
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,400
molecules, there's different
extracts that people use.

1012
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,960
We want to be as extensive as
possible and detailed as

1013
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,920
possible when we're explaining
dosage.

1014
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,480
There's probably not going to be
a one-size-fits-all because we

1015
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,880
don't know where your pets at.
Your pet could be young but just

1016
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,080
can be experiencing some itchy
scratchies.

1017
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,480
Or your pet could be 17 and
literally looking like they're

1018
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,200
on death's door and might need a
larger dose.

1019
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,560
We don't know this, so we want
to be very clear, like, hey,

1020
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,560
we're just starting low and
going slow as we typically do

1021
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,880
with all supplements.
But the feedback that we can get

1022
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,760
from this is incredible because
we can help so many other pet

1023
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,240
owners understand how to use
these products better.

1024
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,400
Awesome and that link to Earth
buddy will be in the show notes

1025
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,680
and also if you want to purchase
anything from Earth buddy can

1026
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:39,840
Sean was very, very gracious and
gave us a discount code TPPR so

1027
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,960
you can use that at
checkout@earthbuddy.earthbuddypet.com

1028
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,680
earthbuddypet.com Again, that
will be in the show notes for

1029
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,520
you guys.
I'm super excited for this

1030
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,520
because like, I just, I mean, I
work with so many dog, like just

1031
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,240
like you, I work with so many
dogs that they just need help,

1032
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,560
need support.
Like we live in a toxic world

1033
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,160
and you know, pet parents, they,
they learn something and then

1034
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,960
they, they beat themselves up
because they're like, I didn't

1035
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,240
know.
And it's like, OK, great, you

1036
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,200
do, now let's move forward.
Yeah, I, to that point, Jessica

1037
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:25,320
is like so often our community,
we want to help pets.

1038
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,480
We are, we are like, I want you
to have the experiences I've had

1039
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,320
with my animals where I, where I
can change your health and I can

1040
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,800
visibly see it and I give them
that quality of life.

1041
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,800
But so often we, we can
sometimes overwhelm pet owners,

1042
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,000
especially if they're coming
from I'm feeding ultra processed

1043
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,520
cable.
I, I have no concept that my

1044
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,800
lifestyle and living situation
is toxic or relationships that

1045
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,720
I'm having in front of that the
animals are, are leeching on to

1046
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,560
them and causing them more
stress, you know, and we

1047
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,040
overwhelm them.
And So what I, what I really

1048
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,200
think is important to point out
is like, I don't want to

1049
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,440
overwhelm anybody.
I want them to really, you know,

1050
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,480
if they're trying all these
things or they're, they're new

1051
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:17,240
to working with you.
I think even adding this in a

1052
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,640
small amount at a certain level
to start at minimum can really

1053
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,880
help their overall health.
At minimum, what we really want

1054
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,000
to see is that it's really kind
of clearing these things out.

1055
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,480
So all the good foods and all
the good practices that they're

1056
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,960
changing in the home of like,
you know, air fresheners and

1057
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,880
cleaners and all that stuff and
fertilizers on the lawn, they

1058
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,200
can start addressing those.
But like, I think at minimum,

1059
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,240
this can really kind of kick
start that and almost expedite

1060
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,560
it in a lot of ways for so many
pets that are just challenging

1061
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,040
and we can't figure out to the
study point.

1062
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,800
The other thing we're going to
be looking at is not just liver

1063
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,000
enzymes is we're going to be
asking them daily questions on,

1064
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,040
you know, what are you seeing in
your pet?

1065
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,880
What is their demeanor like, you
know, are they digesting food

1066
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,880
better?
And we also add milk Thistle in

1067
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,880
there.
So that's going to increase bile

1068
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,160
flow in production and help with
the elimination of these toxins.

1069
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,680
So I really think that we want
to understand not just, you

1070
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,280
know, seeing that the liver
enzymes go down as a baseline,

1071
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,280
but we want to see their overall
health improving throughout the

1072
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,840
process.
So I think it's going to be

1073
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,000
really exciting to see the
results of it.

1074
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,440
I have no doubt they're going to
be great, but I'm really curious

1075
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,320
on all the feedback we're going
to get from it because I think

1076
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,160
we're going to see some things
that we didn't expect and that's

1077
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,840
always the fun.
We've done some studies on the

1078
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,760
hemp side and we got some really
cool insights from it and so I

1079
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,840
have no doubt we're going to get
it from this as well.

1080
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,520
That's awesome.
Well, I think that's a great

1081
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,880
place to end.
Thank you so much for being here

1082
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,920
Sean, and for putting out such
amazing products for our pets

1083
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:05,360
and for caring to actually do
studies like this and see what's

1084
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,280
happening and just to know to do
better with like dosing and all

1085
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,920
of the things.
So thank you for that.

1086
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,800
And guys, I just want to say
thank you for being here for

1087
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,680
listening to the Pet Parenting
Reset podcast.

1088
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,840
I am just so grateful for you
and for what you are doing in

1089
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,680
affecting change in your pets
lives.

1090
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,320
Keep sharing it on social media
so more people can see it and

1091
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,040
sharing what you're doing so
that they know that it's it's,

1092
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,360
it's all the all the wonderful
natural things we have to be

1093
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,560
quiet about sometimes, but we
don't want to be quiet about it.

1094
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,520
So have a great rest of your
week.

1095
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,000
Please give your pets some extra
love from me and from Sean this

1096
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,480
week and I will talk to you next
week.

1097
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,560
Thanks, Jessica.
Thanks, Sean.

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Founder

After graduating from University of Northern Colorado, I started in the pet industry with one of the major pet food brands where I quickly learned a lot of science and "nutrition" behind kibble and canned pet food. From there I worked for a national pet distributor and interacted with almost every major pet food, brand, etc. This is where I saw the initial explosion in Colorado of Human & Pet CBD brands. Till this day there is a lot of misinformation and wild marketing around the natural supplement category, and is one of the main reasons I started Earth Buddy. In 2015, I adopted a dog named Keeva and in partnering with our farm, we were able to give to significantly reduce her seizures with natural remedies like cannabis & mushrooms, while taking a more whole food approach with her diet.
For almost 20 years, I have worked and learned from some of the best minds in animal wellness & pet longevity. We actively work with thought leading veterinarians, holistic practitioners, and PhD scientists that specialize in natural remedies for pets & humans. When it comes to pet longevity, our philosophy is to treat each animal individually and holistically, meaning their needs to be a multi-faceted approach.