232. Is Your Dog Missing THIS Ingredient for Optimal Health?

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Hey there, it's Jess.
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something better, a better way
to raise healthier pets, welcome

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to the pet parenting reset.
Welcome back, pet parent.

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This week's episode is so cool
because I might have mentioned

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in the past, especially if you
listen to the episodes around

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Super Zoo, which is such a fun
show to go to in Vegas in

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August, even though it's in
Vegas in August and there were

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only two products that came out
of Super Zoo as like, where have

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you been?
Thank you for this innovation

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because I feel like we've been
kind of stuck in this rut

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without a whole lot of
innovation.

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There is one company that we can
always count on innovation for,

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but outside of that, like
everybody else is just kind of

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following the same brick road.
And so I have been adding these

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two products to my dog's
regimen.

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And I will say since I have
started adding Totonics and one

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other product, but I, you know,
I think they're both working

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really well for her.
She has been I don't she's just

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more vital like she just has
more energy and y'all know that

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she I just celebrated her 12th
birthday.

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So I'm definitely doing
everything I can right now to

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kind of keep her as young as I
possibly can at heart at least.

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So with that, today's guest is
Jeff Bowers.

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He is the founder of Totonics
and Teutonics is one of those

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two products and companies that
we found.

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We meaning me and my friends at
Super Zoo this year that we were

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like, yes, thank you for
bringing something new to the

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pet market.
So Jeff, welcome to the pet

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parenting reset.
Thank you for being here.

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How are you doing today?
Thank you, Jessica.

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Yeah, really excited to be here
and then to be able to speak at

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this forum.
Yeah, I know you're well

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respected and it's really nice
to have a chance to explain to

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your customers as to why.
Thank you.

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Yeah.
So I, I think first of all,

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obviously we want to talk about
totonics like this is so new.

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So like nobody else is doing
this.

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Hardly anybody is using this
type of product.

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I mean almost no one and it has
made a huge, I feel like it has

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already made a huge difference
in Kims vitality.

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Kim is my dog and so I
definitely want to talk about

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this incredible product.
But before we do, I'd love for

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you to just give people a little
bit of background because you

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have a long history not only in
the pet space but working with

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dogs in general.
Thank you.

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All right, yes, and I have been
extremely fortunate.

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I can honestly say I felt I've
never worked a day in my life.

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I've had an amazing journey.
First part of that was 12 years

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with the British military and
obviously taught me about

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teamwork and something I hold
dear.

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And you know, without a the
team, it's not all about me,

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It's about having a great team
around you.

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And that taught me that from day
one.

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And I went to join another team
after that 12 years.

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And it was the police in the UK
spent 12 years in the police and

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I got the option of firearms or
dogs and I, I took dogs

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immediately.
Yeah, I've always had dogs

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growing up and love dogs.
And so a chance to work with

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them was just unbelievably
amazing.

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And that taught me an even
greater respect of what they can

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do and their ability and and
their loyalty.

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I mean, we all talk about their
loyalty.

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And I can guarantee this for any
listener that's out there, your

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dog will defend you to the
death.

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I do not have to teach that.
I thought I did.

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And it's for a very specific
reason.

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They know that you provide them
food, shelter and protection

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every day of their life and
without you, the most important

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part of that is the food.
They would die and it is an

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innate fact that they understand
fully that if anything happened

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to you, they have no chance of
surviving.

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So it is why the loyalty comes
from I.

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I believe they did it because I
taught them and I've quickly

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learned that wasn't the case.
And it's an amazing thing to

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understand that their their
dedication is literally their

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life.
I was unfortunate to lose some

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during the course of my work
with them and part of that and

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part of this is that payback.
I vowed I would pay them back

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and so Totonics is part of that
journey.

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I left the police in the UK and
was recruited for the police in

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New Zealand, which is where I am
now.

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I call it paradise because it
provides the best food on the

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planet for our dogs.
Yeah, and it was one of the

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reasons I came here.
I didn't tell the police that

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initially I was working with the
dogs here in New Zealand, but I

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wanted to get to the food.
So New Zealand's very fortunate.

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Everything is grass fed.
We can feed 20 times our

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population here, so we produce
an awful lot of food and it's

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all grass fed.
It's hormone free.

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We literally do live in a very
special place.

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And so I realized I could
produce a food.

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Would you believe first that
everybody, a lot of people know

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about that food?
It's cocaine and natural.

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That was my first venture into
the business.

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I became disappointed, Would you
believe, when I realized even

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with all the sheep in New
Zealand and the cattle, we

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didn't have enough food, real
food I call it.

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So raw diets to feed dogs around
the world.

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I came away from there knowing
that I started a really nice

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trend and lots of people have
made it available for more

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people.
But I wanted to get back to

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training dogs.
And so I, I studied hard, you

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know, I'd trained dogs in the
police, but I wanted to learn

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their true ability.
And so that took me on another

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journey where I ended up
training dogs to detect Chilean

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needle grass oxygen levels.
So medical alert dogs, you name

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it, I started to teach those
people what their dogs could do

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for them.
So during that time, Shane, who

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was my head of sales at Canine
Natural, tapped me on the

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shoulder and said, Jeff, you've
got to come back into the

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industry.
There's been nothing new out

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there for 15 years since you
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He said you've got to come back
and develop something new.

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So I said sure.
I, you know, done lots of

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things.
Why not let's come up with

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something.
And hence totonics emerge from

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what do you believe about two
days of thinking long and hard

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about what could be best for
dogs?

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So Totonics came about from the
fact that I knew when I made

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Canine Natural, the most
important aspect of that diet

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was pouring blood.
So they go through the slaughter

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process we don't need to talk
about in depth.

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And that blood is normally
wasted.

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It's normally thrown away down
the drain and it goes untreated

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around the planet.
The more research I did for

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totonics, the more I understood
how bad that was.

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So the name Totonix, if you're
wondering why it's Totonic, Toto

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obviously is a famous dog that
we all know about.

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The Wizard of Oz tonics is a a
drink.

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But Toto is Maori, which is the
language in New Zealand for

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blood.
So I thought I'd factor it into

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the name because that's where
the blood is coming from in

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Totonix.
So and that set us off on a

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journey.
I knew blood contained every

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vitamin, mineral, protein that
keeps us alive.

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It transports it around the
system and we get the benefits

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of it.
So I knew it was the best thing

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I could give them, but I wanted
to get one step better.

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So I thought is there any
difference between different

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types of blood and what do you
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So as I was doing my research,
it took me to Chinese medicine

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and Chinese medicine relies
heavily on on deer products.

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So deer velvet, deer antlers and
deer blood.

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Would you believe?
And the more research I read,

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the more we discovered that the
reason deer can grow antlers

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every 12 months is something
called IGF one.

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It's a peptide that flows
through their body and ours.

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Would you believe when we're
younger and helps grow every

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living cell for deer, they
maintain the levels and

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throughout their life, whereas
as humans, we ours reduce as we

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get older and same for dogs.
So, you know, I thought if I

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could use this, then I'm on to
a, you know, absolute winner for

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the dog.
So hydration I knew is a really

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big factor.
And I can explain that from a

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police dog's perspective, but
also from everybody that owns a

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dog.
We used to feed kibble until I

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started feeding mine raw and
from a kibble diet.

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Dogs are obviously eating good
dry food and so they've got to

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consume large amounts of water.
We know consuming large amounts

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of water strips and vitamins and
minerals from us.

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So we have drinks now Dior like
solutions and things to add back

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those vitamins and minerals.
So I was thinking how does that

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affect working dogs?
So when I was still in the

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police over here, I did a trial
at Massey University, well

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respected professor Nick Cave
and I sent him the two diets and

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I said why are dogs performing
so much better on the moist diet

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than the dry diet?
And he came back with a simple

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answer.
So the dog's olfactory system

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relies heavily on it being
moist.

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So it is literally 80% more
efficient if their noses are

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moist compared to if they're
dry. 80% more efficiency of

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catching their next meal in
nature.

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But also fluid is something we
all need and what a way to drink

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it.
They are DNA wide to consume it.

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So why not give it to them?
But of course, the benefits of

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blood that contains very high
levels of protein, it contains

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obviously iron, which we all
need and it's difficult to

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supplement, contains the
calcium, contains the vitamins

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and the minerals.
So we end up with absolute

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powerhouse of a food, if you
like, or a drink in this case

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that a dog will consume readily.
As you're seeing Jessica with

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them, Kim, Obviously they love
to eat it, but the results speak

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for themselves.
And why the results?

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Blood is liquid, we ask you.
It comes in a powder format, but

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we ask you to rehydrate it for
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Our mouth absorbs very quickly
nutrients.

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So the mouth is a place where we
can gain the most nutrients.

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I can give you an analogy of
that.

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If you haven't, forbid ever had
a heart attack, somebody needs

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to pop an aspirin under your
tongue, not for you to swallow

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under your tongue.
You absorb it much faster.

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And it's the same for fluids.
We're not only giving them a

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super drink, we're giving them
very bioavailable drink too, and

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one that hits the spot really
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So that that's what started it.
Venison.

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Why did I push venison?
Because I know there are dogs

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out there that some have
intolerances to chicken and beef

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and lamb.
They're intolerances.

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Everyone says it's an algae.
If it was an algae, we'd be

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giving them an EpiPen.
It's an intolerance.

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So they start to itch, they
start to get uncomfortable.

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So I thought if I can come up
with a novel protein, which I

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can, is venison, then away we
go.

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And the beauty of New Zealand is
it has the largest herds in the

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world, 1.2 million deer here.
Compare that to the second

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largest of 100,000.
And so we have plenty of supply

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and we're doing the planet a
favour too.

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That was the other big thing for
me.

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I've got grandchildren now.
I wanna make sure that, you

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know, we're not wasting things
into the water, you know, and

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we're reusing it and using it to
the benefit of dogs.

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So for me, it was a real win
win.

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And I think, yeah, I wanted to
make it simple.

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And, you know, Jessica's been
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testify to that.
The fact that it's it's usable,

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it's easy enough to use.
So that's where it came from.

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As I said at the start, my whole
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those dogs that gave their life
for me.

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So yeah, it's I am dedicated to
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And so yeah, I want this to get
to every dog that eats biscuits

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as a minimum, or kibble, shall I
say.

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Well my dog does not eat kibble
she is fresh fed and she has

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been since the day I adopted her
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But I am still seeing these
improvements because blood

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hasn't been a part of her diet
and because I have been feeding

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commercial foods.
I just don't have the time.

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I wish I had the time to DIY all
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And I will say, like, I am, I am
that person that would be like,

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yeah, blood, give it to me.
I'll buy a whole jar of it, like

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give it to me.
But I get that most people are

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not that.
And they're like, yeah, I can do

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with the powder.
Perfect.

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Maybe I can do with the powder
and it I will say like it

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doesn't smell.
It doesn't have like a strong

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smell.
I mean, it smells, but it

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doesn't have like a strong smell
to it.

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And what I have been doing is
actually warming it up a bit to

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and, and pouring it over her
food to help warm her food as

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well, because I'm also really
big into not feeding cold food.

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Another traditional Chinese
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Perfect theory where, you know,
feeding, feeding cold food

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stagnates the digestive tract.
I don't want to do that with

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her.
And you know, cold treats every

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now and then, no big deal.
But like constant everything

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they're eating is cold is is not
good.

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So that's how I've been doing
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And I will say the first time I
gave it to her, I was like, I

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don't know if she's going to
like this.

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It's making like it didn't make
a a mess by any means, but like,

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it definitely was like I felt
like I was feeding her Stew

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versus, you know what I mean?
It was just so much more liquidy

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than what I would normally feed
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Not that that's a bad thing at
all, but I was like, how is she

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going to be with this different
texture?

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And she was like, she licks the
plate clean.

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She's always been a good eater,
but she licks the plate clean.

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She's she loves it.
So yeah, happy about.

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That look and yeah, you're
right, it can be fed to any dog

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and should you know, we, they
don't drink enough because yes,

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they they would never look for
water buckets in nature, would

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you believe?
So I studied with them.

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I got to Dolan Harmon over in
Alaska back in then is and he

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explained, you know, it was back
then I was, it was middle of

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winter, obviously north of Mount
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There are no lakes.
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always from the kill.
And obviously that moisture is

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blood, you know, so they
understand that water isn't the

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ideal drink.
Humans.

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There's a professor from South
Africa, Professor Burns, and he

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looked at marathon runners dying
from over use of water.

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There was lots of research came
out and the 2000s that said,

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yeah, we're not drinking enough.
And so, you know, they set a

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limit I think of something like
4 litres, which is, you know, an

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awful lot of water.
And of course on marathons they

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had lots of drink stations and
people were taking too much

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fluid and obviously collapsing.
Yeah, it's very difficult to

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know how much you need.
But the dogs will self regulate,

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they will stop if they've had
enough.

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You know, they're very intuitive
at how much they should drink.

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So if they're slipping it up,
you know, they needed it.

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Unlike us, you know, we'll,
we'll carry on drinking because

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we think we need it rather than
because we do.

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So they have very, very good
switches, but dogs and cats

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certainly don't have those
switches like humans do.

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If we're feeling thirsty, then
we will go to the cupboard and

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get a drink.
Cats suffer worse than dogs, but

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dogs still don't hydrate fully
enough, you know.

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So most dogs out there are under
hydrated and that causes the

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same problem that just for
humans and bladder infections,

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urine infections, you know,
kidneys, all those things.

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So yeah, so this will fix all of
those issues so the human

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doesn't have to worry.
Is my dog not getting enough to

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drink?
You're pouring it on there.

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And they will decide, you know,
which is fantastic.

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And they decide because their
DNA wired to choose which is

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amazing so but good points.
Well, I think if I remember

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correctly, and I don't even know
how we figured this out.

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I don't remember, but if I think
somewhere that I saw or read

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that it takes roughly 4 cups of
water for a dog to be able to

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digest 1 cup of kibble because
it needs that liquid for

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digestion.
And if they, if they don't have

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that, which they don't generally
speaking, then they're, you

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know, they're pulling moisture
from their organ systems to be

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able to digest that kibble.
But like you just said, if we

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were delicious, assume that we
could get a dog to drink 4 cups

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of water to every One Cup of
kibble they were eating.

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We're fleshing out all the
electrolytes in the body.

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So that in in itself is
detrimental.

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Because I think like you were
just saying with like runners,

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that's why I don't know if it's
salt maybe that they add to the

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water and they probably, you
know, they do that with like

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Gatorades and stuff now that
have all these sweeteners in

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them that aren't good for you,
but they're trying to get these,

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the electrolytes back into your
body.

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Or a lot of the like biohackers
are saying, just sprinkle some

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salt into your water and you'll
be good.

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You're actually going to hydrate
yourself that way.

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It is, it is a mineral, but it's
not the only one that you need.

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And my my belief has always been
this nature gets it right.

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Humans break it.
OK.

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So whatever we do to nature, we
end up destroying some part of

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it.
Yeah.

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So the guy that I was studying
with to go on hard and said, you

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know, calcium, for example, how
much calcium do you give your

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dog?
And I'm going past, you know,

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because back then I was feeding
kibble.

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I said, you know, I think it's
in a ratio of 2 to 1.

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He goes, why is it in that
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We come to answer those
questions, obviously.

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So I said, don't really know.
He said, OK, so he said what is

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calcium?
And calcium is 1 ion on the

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periodic table removed from a
metal.

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But we need, it's called a
micronutrients.

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We need micronutrients of it.
So here's what happened.

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So somebody decided that humans
lacked calcium.

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So we will add it, we'll fortify
it into cereals, into yoghurts,

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into you name it.
So calcium is bone.

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That is the only way humans
can't make calcium.

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All right, it's bone.
And so we ended up, and it was a

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study, it was done in New
Zealand, two scientists in New

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Zealand.
I can send you a copy of this

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study so you can post it for the
for your audience.

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And they determined that, whoa,
hang on, calcium supplements are

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seriously killing people.
And they looked at it and went,

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whoa, the deposits around the
heart and calcified arteries we

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thought were fat deposits,
nothing to do with fat, to do

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with calcium.
OK.

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So they realized doing these
studies that, whoa, we need to

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stop.
OK, So doctors around the world

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have stopped subscribing,
prescribing calcium supplements,

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tablets for those reasons.
The way I explained it, or I

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used to when I was talking about
raw food vets, because they

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would say how much calcium in
there.

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And I said whatever nature
decided, all right, because it

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would ask me constantly.
I knew what the ratios were, but

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I knew it wasn't technically
what AFCO was selling.

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So I would answer them that way
and and then I'd go on to my

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discussion and say, OK, so can
you tell me how a cow grows to

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the size of a cow eating grass?
And they'd look at me, you know,

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or an elephant or a giraffe,
tallest, biggest skeletal being

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on the planet apart from the
whale.

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How can it grow to that size
when it eats an Acacia Bush?

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How much calcium's in that?
And they were like, you know.

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They didn't know what to say and
I said it's because it is and I

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would, I'd been taught that then
and researchers back, they're up

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now.
But it's a micronutrient, you

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know, so we, we have to be
extremely careful.

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So the way it works in dog food,
they crushed bone, right?

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Well, how much does that dog
need?

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So it needs it in a format
whereby they can absorb it if

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they need it or get rid of it if
they don't.

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OK, well, we can't do it.
So blood carries calcium, the

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others calcium in in the blood,
but it's in a format whereby it

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can be absorbed or easily let go
of.

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So, you know, again, nature gets
it right.

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Humans tend to break these
things, you know.

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So I am ultra, ultra cautious
about adding anything or, you

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know, taking anything away
because it was put there for a

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reason.
Yeah.

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And that reason was to make our
dogs extremely healthy.

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You know, the mammals that they
were created to eat would do

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that.
You know, I always used to say

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if it's warm, covered in firm
running past your dog's nose,

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then that's suitable for them to
eat.

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And I don't mean cats.
I don't mean it's like that.

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I'm talking about, you know, a
rabbit or something and not your

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pet ones, but something of that
size.

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So, you know, and that's where
we've gone completely right.

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And I understand why.
And I understand we cannot get

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away from, you know, feeding
kibble.

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But with this, people will see a
massive difference in their dog.

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You know, it's 60% protein in a
small sachet.

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OK, That's telling you
something.

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Protein grows every living cell
in our body.

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It's the most expensive part of
any diet, OK.

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It's the most expensive part of
the kibble.

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It's the most expensive part of
the raw diets.

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Is the protein side of it.
Yeah, big.

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And yet we are wasting millions
and millions of gallons.

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We are pouring it down the
drain.

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OK.
The good news is in New Zealand,

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for me to export to anywhere in
the world, it has to be health

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food or greater quality.
It has to be tested beyond every

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single diet.
So I can walk in the supermarket

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here, buy a chicken and it
hasn't gone through a test.

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We know we don't have the issue
with salmonella and chickens

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over here and they don't use
antibiotics for that reason

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because they don't have to.
But anywhere else in the world

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when I lived in UK, if I was
eating a chicken potentially

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could have salmonella, I
wouldn't know because not every

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chicken's tested for my product
to leave.

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All right, every batch is tested
every single batch for

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salmonella E cola and it has to
pass.

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And then I have to take away 5
of that one batch and send them

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off for retesting and they go
with health certificates, right?

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So it's collected above food
grade and then I can, I'm

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allowed to sell it offshore.
And the reason for that is if

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there was a recall, it would
look good on the New Zealand,

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look bad on the New Zealand
government.

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And so they set this, the bar
really, really high, which is

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fantastic for me because I
wouldn't want anything less for

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my dog.
So, you know, we have brilliant

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standards in place.
And it's why if you see me at a

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show or something, I'll drink it
happily, You know, I know it's

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safer than anything I consume
normally.

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So, you know, it's yeah in that
respect.

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But what does it taste?
Like it's really I I thoroughly

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enjoy it, to be honest.
Depends which one we do before.

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So if you're taking the one for
hip and joint, OK, you'll taste

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green like muscle and so that
one's fishy.

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But the others, no, they're
fine.

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So we do one that's coming out
for you guys soon as a

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performance.
That's our last line.

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So there'll be 4 in the US soon
and the performance is a Dior

449
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,480
like solution.
Would you believe so?

450
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,440
It's a real hit with our Husky
teams and the agility people and

451
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,680
those that do, you know, the
obedience work because they find

452
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,680
it difficult for dogs to have
enough fluid for these events.

453
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320
All right, they're doing for
four races or whatever.

454
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,120
And so I made one.
We call it the Diorite solution.

455
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,720
It's just venison blood and
manuka honey.

456
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800
So the manuka honey is known
around the world for its healing

457
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,200
properties and antibacterial
properties, but I'm using it as

458
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,760
the sugar.
Terrible, isn't it?

459
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,280
All right.
But sugar, it's natural sugar

460
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,720
opens up the vilii in the
stomach.

461
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280
And so the dogs, if they haven't
got it all through the mouth,

462
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,760
they will get it faster into
their system through the

463
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,560
stomach.
And that's what Darlites have

464
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,120
sugar in them for that reason.
So.

465
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,120
But I, yeah, I won't use
unnatural sugar.

466
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,560
You'll only get real stuff with
me.

467
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,000
So hence, you know, the green
lip muscle for the hip and joint

468
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,200
and the gut health is big bone
broth.

469
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840
It's anti-inflammatory with a
small amount of the Greenland

470
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,360
muscle in it.
So again, all of the products

471
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,880
from New Zealand.
So we don't have the issue with

472
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,560
hormones and all of those things
that yeah, unfortunately around

473
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,400
the world they've got to use.
We don't here.

474
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,960
So we're very lucky it's as
green as we can make it.

475
00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:01,600
So since you brought up calcium
specifically and you have a

476
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,360
background in pet food
manufacturing, so Doctor

477
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,600
Billinghurst, so I know
everybody is very familiar with

478
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,200
with doctor.
Billing professor Tom Lonsdale.

479
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,800
And yes, well, he says that we
have the most science for

480
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,800
feeding humans, dogs and cats
out of every species there is on

481
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,840
this planet.
And humans, dogs and cats are

482
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,320
also the sickest animals on this
planet.

483
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,600
So that kind of takes me back to
what you were saying about you

484
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,640
want it to be as as close to as
what they what they would do,

485
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,640
what they would get in nature as
possible.

486
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:43,080
So how do you feel like you kind
of touched on this, but I know

487
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,840
like with AFCO, you brought up
each one of those nutrient

488
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,280
profiles that they have created
that they said this is what a

489
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,960
dog needs, this is what a cat
needs.

490
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,480
They tested each one in a
vacuum.

491
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,080
And that's not how our bodies
are designed to work.

492
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800
You know, we eat or a dog would
eat a whole prey animal.

493
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,200
A cat would eat a whole prey
animal.

494
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,320
They're not consuming one thing
like like you said, calcium or

495
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,880
phosphorus or manganese or
whatever it is.

496
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120
They're not consuming just one
thing.

497
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,400
So how do you see that kind of
separate from Teutonics?

498
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,360
How do you see that playing out
in like in my, I'm just going to

499
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,880
be honest, like in my opinion, I
feel like kibble is a failed

500
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,600
experiment, but we're not.
I don't think we're at a point

501
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,040
where enough people are are
admitting that.

502
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,200
Sure.
And look, the, the reason it was

503
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520
brought in, I'm sure, you know,
all this is, but the reason

504
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,920
they, they introduced biscuits
to dogs was the Brits to put

505
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,920
dogs on board ships.
OK.

506
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,120
Because so that we could travel
around the world and conquer it.

507
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,680
So, yeah, my, my past
generations have an awful lot to

508
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,560
answer for.
Back then, though, those

509
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760
biscuits that they made were
meat based and they dehydrated

510
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,640
them.
All right.

511
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,840
What happened in the early 70s,
we decided that convenience was

512
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,800
essential.
You know, fortunately, more

513
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,360
people had to work because they
were getting less pay, you know,

514
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,280
So, yeah, families started to
have, you know, both sides of

515
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,240
parents had to go to work.
And so the convenience kicked

516
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800
in.
And that's when the kibble

517
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,000
manufacturers really took off.
You know, made huge mistakes at

518
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,760
the beginning, obviously,
because my, the easiest way to

519
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,760
explain why should we feed raw?
Why should we feed kibble?

520
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,880
Well, I will feed kibble to my
dogs if I ever see them cook

521
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,920
their food.
All right, Simple as that.

522
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000
The day a dog turns up to my
side and they're capable of

523
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,880
doing this is don't have
opposing thumbs, but the day a

524
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,440
dog comes to me and says, hey
dad, cook my dinner, then I will

525
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,320
cook it.
The chances of that are pretty

526
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680
slim.
All right, so cooking we know

527
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,920
destroys most things.
So then they add in vitamins,

528
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,320
minerals, but even in AFCO, most
of those don't have limits,

529
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,160
right?
They set the minimums, but most

530
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,920
of them they don't set the
maximum.

531
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,240
So how do I know what Kim's
going to do today, right?

532
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,720
This is how I work it out.
I have no clue what Kim is going

533
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,440
to do today.
She might do a A5 mile walk, she

534
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,360
might do one mile, she might
just lie by the fire.

535
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,120
So Kimmy's going to need a
different set of food or a

536
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,560
different intake requirement
than my dogs, for example.

537
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,760
So I've got 5 rescues at the
moment, 5 rescue Griffins.

538
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,440
I'll send you some pictures.
You'll laugh.

539
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,760
But they climb mountains here. 2
days ago we went to Mount

540
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,560
Isabel, which is, yeah, it was
18 kilometers, so probably 14

541
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560
miles.
And these are, you know, dogs

542
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,280
this big.
Yeah, they're they're tiny.

543
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,360
Yeah, but they're on totonics,
right?

544
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,040
And one of them has completely
no hips.

545
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,520
We can move them out to the
side.

546
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160
And the vets were like, well,
that's going to need serious

547
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,320
surgery.
However, we've got a vet who's a

548
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,800
physio.
And so we rescued this guy, put

549
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,200
him on totonics on the hip and
joint, and within three weeks,

550
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480
his muscle mass around his back
legs went from 12 centimeters to

551
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,120
24.
That's with the help of the

552
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,200
physio as well.
You know, that is massive muscle

553
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,800
growth in a very short space of
time, which now support his hip.

554
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,360
So he runs up the mountains with
us.

555
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,600
All right, so some I never know
when I was making canine actual,

556
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600
I never knew what those dogs
were going to do.

557
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,560
And so I came up with a what I
thought was an easy answer,

558
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080
right.
If your dog's losing weight,

559
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,400
feed them a bit more.
This is on raw.

560
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,200
If they gain weight, feed them a
bit less.

561
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Now what is a raw diet?
In my view?

562
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040
I recreated the lamb.
So if you were eating canine

563
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,480
natural when I was producing it,
all right, you were eating the

564
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,720
lamb in, in the format 2% liver,
you know, 1% kidney.

565
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,800
So it was in there in the
quantities that would recreate

566
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,080
that animal bone very little,
OK, because they wouldn't eat

567
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960
larger bones, certainly on beef
and things like that.

568
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,840
They hardly touch it.
They will only take a mouthful

569
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960
of bone if they need a bit of
calcium.

570
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240
You know, it's not, they don't
know on it constantly, you know,

571
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,320
so all of these myths that came
about or the stomach content was

572
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,320
a great one.
You know, they say, oh, you need

573
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,440
to put in lots of some.
I'm like, no, that if a wolf

574
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,840
kills something or any animal
for that matter, they RIP the

575
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720
stomach out first.
They go in through the rib cage

576
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,120
underneath.
Now they've got the stomach out

577
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080
of the way and they would take
the heart.

578
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,480
And if you'd look at any
analysis, the heart, apart from

579
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,120
the blood is the most nutritious
part of the animal because it

580
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520
contains all the blood and it's
lean muscle.

581
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
All right, So they know what
they're supposed to eat.

582
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,320
Trouble is, humans think we
know.

583
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,320
And so it's very difficult to
say your dog needs this, your

584
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,040
dog needs this.
And so I don't know how those

585
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,760
manufacturers come up with those
recipes because, you know,

586
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,000
certainly when they add the
carbs in, humans struggle to get

587
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320
rid of carbs.
All right, We, we struggle to

588
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,560
burn off carbohydrates, right?
Protein grows every living cell.

589
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,480
Carbohydrates don't they grow
the fat cells, which things we

590
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840
don't really want, right?
So what do we do?

591
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760
The experiment failed.
So we then did it to our dogs,

592
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,400
didn't we?
We gave them the food.

593
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Oh, here you go, this will be
good for you.

594
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,600
And then we wonder why dogs are
becoming obese.

595
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,480
Well, I think I might have an
answer there.

596
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,920
So it is extremely difficult as
an owner to know how much to

597
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,160
feed, but that rule was taught
to me.

598
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,760
It was a breeze that I was
asking the police dogs to be

599
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,640
bred from.
And I said, look, you know, I

600
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,000
want these athletes.
I'm feeding minor raw Dutch.

601
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,880
No, I've always fed my pups raw.
I'm like, wow, I thought it was

602
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,240
a revolution.
This was back in 1990.

603
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480
I was like, wow, that's that's
amazing.

604
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
She's like, don't be stupid.
That's what we always feed.

605
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,280
OK, I said.
I said I have a big question.

606
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,400
How much do I feed?
And she went, well, if it's

607
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,040
gaining weight, feed him a bit
less, and if it's losing weight,

608
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,600
feed him a bit more.
And I'm like, seriously, was I

609
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,320
that silly?
But no, we now have charts,

610
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,240
don't we?
Right.

611
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640
You get a bag of dog food and
it'll say, if your dog weighs

612
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
this, give it 4 cups.
If it weighs it, well, how did

613
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,680
they work that out?
They're supposed to be

614
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,720
scientists, right?
If my dog's lying in front of

615
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120
the fire all day and I give it 4
cups of kibble, it's just going

616
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,480
to get larger.
If it's running up a mountain

617
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440
and I give it 4 cups of kibble,
probably not going to make it.

618
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Well, I wouldn't do that.
You know, all my raw fed

619
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,680
obviously, you know, so it's
honestly, it's called common

620
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,560
sense.
And unfortunately, you know,

621
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,840
science has sort of removed that
from us as a human race.

622
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,480
You know, my brother is one of
the world's leading scientists.

623
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,240
He's a retired now amazing guy.
And you know, and he was very

624
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
practical in the way he spoke
and thought.

625
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840
He said, you know, science is
only understanding what nature

626
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080
already knows.
And I don't think there's a true

627
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
common than that is that, you
know, science is only just

628
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240
catching up with what nature
already understands.

629
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,680
You know, we're making a huge
hullabalar about DNA.

630
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Science has discovered it.
No, nature knew it.

631
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Science, yes, has now
understanding it, but it's been

632
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,680
there a lot longer than science.
So and I think that's where

633
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,920
easily LED.
We are concerned for our dogs

634
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200
because it's our responsibility
to look after them.

635
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,920
You know, they are our children
no matter what anyone says.

636
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,120
And people say, oh, you can't
say that.

637
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,080
Well, yes, you can.
And, you know, in my view, you

638
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,000
should.
We're there to care for these.

639
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,840
We're supposed to be the
intelligence species.

640
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,160
My question that daily, you
know, when I face, you know,

641
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920
situations where people say,
well, you know, how much do I

642
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400
give them?
Well, the dog will stop if it's

643
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,880
had enough, right?
And if it's looking for more

644
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
than I suggest you give it
somewhere and it's certainly in

645
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,000
the blood formula, OK?
They won't overdose themselves

646
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,600
on it.
There's nothing in there that's

647
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,840
going to harm them, all right.
And if anything, you know, if

648
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
your dog's dehydrated, it's
going to do them the world of

649
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,360
good.
They'll feel so much better.

650
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,360
I can remember my first police
dogs because we were feeding

651
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,200
them what we thought was a
brilliant food.

652
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480
I mean, I won't name what it
was, but it was the best

653
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,720
recognizer, being a best on the
market at the time.

654
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,280
And they constantly had cracked
noses.

655
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,480
They were constantly panting,
you know, they within three days

656
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,080
of put them on a raw diet, I had
new dogs, right?

657
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640
I had athletes.
I just couldn't believe it, you

658
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,200
know?
And I was adding in tons of

659
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720
heart to those meals.
And, yeah, they stopped drinking

660
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,320
the water, bought bowls, you
know.

661
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Whoa.
What happened?

662
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,120
Funny that.
And so, yeah, I think what, what

663
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,000
I'm trying to do here is say
that.

664
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Yeah, there's, there's lots of
better ways that we can do what

665
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
we're doing.
I think we need to trust our

666
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
instincts, trust what you're
seeing.

667
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Listen to your dog, all right?
They'll soon tell you if they

668
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,920
don't need it.
You know, if you put that in a

669
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,880
bowl and they devour it, there's
a reason.

670
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,920
And it's simple.
They're like, thank you.

671
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,520
All right.
Where have you been?

672
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,760
All my life?
My, my, my goal was I would

673
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320
never harm them, ever.
I owe them too much.

674
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,159
So I think, yeah, it's been my
life's ambition to produce

675
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,120
things for them.
And I'm going to have to stop at

676
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,840
this and a little bit of lesson
because I've recreated the diet

677
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,159
and now, you know, for those
dogs that can't get what they

678
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,000
need from that diet, then I've
come up with four toppers but

679
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,840
with all functional benefits.
So, you know, your hip and

680
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,440
joint, you got health, you know,
which is working with dogs that

681
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,720
have got gas and all of those
things which, you know, people

682
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,480
think is normal.
Unbelievable, you know?

683
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,800
And yeah, the hip and joint is
really, really taken off.

684
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,680
And one I've called Forceda for
those dogs that don't want to

685
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,920
eat that cable every day, they
devour it now.

686
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,960
So using it for dogs that are on
the hypoallergenic diets and

687
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,320
after surgeries.
One dog was under cancer

688
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120
treatment, so it was extremely
anemic.

689
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,120
And these stories are coming out
now because we're getting to

690
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,080
more and more people and we turn
that dog around in 24 hours,

691
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,440
anemia gone.
Doesn't surprise me because it's

692
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,920
full of iron, right?
The dog can absorb it too.

693
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920
I know one of my daughter's, she
was always low in iron and so

694
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,960
she ended up on iron tablets.
And my brother said, we get it,

695
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,800
if she's not taking them with
vitamin C, they're useless

696
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,800
anyway, he said, but get us some
steak and some heart.

697
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,600
And so we did that within three
days.

698
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Yeah, I should have known this
shouldn't.

699
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,280
I was feeding raw to my dogs.
But yeah, that's the human for

700
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
you.
So yeah, you just don't.

701
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,520
How bad is that?
I think better about what my dog

702
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,880
should eat than my kids.
But no, they're fine now.

703
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,320
But it is yet common sense.
Yeah.

704
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,280
Well, and I don't think if, if,
if we look at various food

705
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,760
toppers, even supplements that
are on the market that, you

706
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,160
know, I don't, I don't see
generally speaking in most

707
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840
things.
Like things can work, but I

708
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,440
don't feel like they work as
well when we continue to keep a

709
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,040
dog or cat on a kibble diet.
But there are a couple of

710
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,400
things.
Eggs and sardines in the past

711
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,240
have been like, really?
They're going to really hit home

712
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,800
for even a dog that's being like
this.

713
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,720
I feel like there's even more.
Yeah, go ahead.

714
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,120
No.
No, no, you're right.

715
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,640
So egg protein 100%.
Yeah.

716
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Doesn't get better.
OK, fish to the omegas.

717
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,120
And those are the reasons.
Yeah.

718
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,480
But blood?
This is the easiest way to

719
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,840
describe the benefits.
It is the elixir of life.

720
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,000
Nothing survives as mammalians
without it, right?

721
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,120
We don't exist.
It keeps us healthy.

722
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,200
It keeps us alive.
And yet we're only just waking

723
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,280
up to that fact, which is, I
mean, we realize if we cut

724
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,960
ourselves and we bleed, then
we're in trouble, right?

725
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320
We're in trouble because it
provides all the oxygen and and

726
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120
every nutrient that we need to
survive.

727
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,280
So why do we throw it away?
Why are we and we literally one

728
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,240
of the studies that I'll send
you, it's pretty horrific.

729
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,360
It was done in 2021 in the US
Looked at the wastage around the

730
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,560
globe of blood products and I
only discovered these when I was

731
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,880
researching for Totonics and one
back in 2015.

732
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,000
But that latest one in 2021
predicted that if we don't get

733
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,960
on top of the billions of
gallons of blood around the

734
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,360
globe that have been poured down
the drain untreated by 20-30,

735
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,600
that's enough to kill the
planet.

736
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,200
The reason they were doing the
study?

737
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Wait for this, right?
Was because they realize it's

738
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
one of the best proteins that
people could use.

739
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,880
OK, It's absolutely the best
minerals, vitamins, everything

740
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,040
you could have, right?
So they looked at how they could

741
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,640
introduce it back into food.
In other words, give the food

742
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,960
something that it really misses,
which is bioavailable proteins

743
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,720
and stuff.
But they tried and it failed

744
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,680
because of the heme, because of
the iron.

745
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,920
People could taste the iron and
not put them off.

746
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,760
I mean, yeah, I must have
Scottish heritage.

747
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,960
I don't know.
I don't think I did.

748
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,440
But I'm certainly Viking.
But they certainly, I love black

749
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,320
puddings, right?
And people are going, no, no

750
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,600
black puddings, right?
But there's a reason for that.

751
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,840
It's made with blood.
OK, that's it.

752
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,280
I think that's one of the few
meals out there that in the West

753
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,920
that they will eat, and it's
made with blood.

754
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
But go back to China.
And when I was doing my

755
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,560
research, so it turned out that
emperor's had their own herds of

756
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,360
venison, only the emperor's,
right.

757
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
And they drank their blood from
those day, every day.

758
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Emperors were living to 95 years
of age, right?

759
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,960
And yeah, they had the
healthcare and stuff.

760
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,480
But compare that to, you know,
the people that are herding the

761
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,320
deer and looking after them, you
know, 4550.

762
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,280
So in China at the moment, if
you want to drink venison blood,

763
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,000
you'll be paying over $500 USI
know.

764
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,760
And you can have it for that.
They understand the benefits of

765
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,040
the vitamins, the minerals, the
iron, everything.

766
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,280
But IGF one, it's.
Yeah, so much so wait for it.

767
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,880
This is what humans decided to
do once we discovered IGF.

768
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,920
What?
We decided to replicate it,

769
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,920
didn't we?
And make a synthetic version so

770
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,840
that athletes could win races.
So they spray in the mouth

771
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,080
absorption.
Great.

772
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,800
So that's banned in sport.
Now you've got it.

773
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
You have to seriously question
humans, don't you?

774
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Well, every day.
Yeah, only every day.

775
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200
Only every day, but in its
natural format.

776
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Why wouldn't you?
I'm 360.

777
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,760
I've been drinking venison
blood.

778
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600
No, I'm not.
I'm only kidding, all right?

779
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,800
But yeah, I certainly drink
venison blood.

780
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Oh my goodness, well I I mean
like I said I've only in the

781
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120
past like 2 weeks have started
giving it to Kim.

782
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080
I feel like I noticed a
difference even though like I

783
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,840
didn't know what I was going to
be looking for.

784
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,800
I did know that she started to
slow down this year.

785
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Like she I just celebrated her
12th birthday with her and she

786
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,800
has been a puppy.
She has acted and looked like a

787
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,840
puppy up until this year and all
of a sudden it was like she's

788
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,360
getting older and slowing down
and I'm like Nope, I need, I

789
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,400
need to do something.
I need to get on top of this.

790
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,280
And I did use sent me the gut
one because I am working on her

791
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,120
gut health and which was great.
Also again, until this year,

792
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880
this year it it's it's kind of
declined.

793
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,440
So we're working on it.
But I have definitely noticed

794
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,920
like just more vitality.
You got it in her overall.

795
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,840
It had been months since she
initiated playtime and she's

796
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,800
initiating playtime again.
So it's just those little

797
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,400
things.
And that it's a real boost to

798
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,960
their system.
So we are the IGF one is

799
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,240
literally regrowing cells,
right?

800
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,280
Cells that wouldn't normally
regrow.

801
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,280
It's it's called a performance
enhancer for a reason.

802
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,120
And you know, the dog way better
for it.

803
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:22,320
And there's lots of different
reasons.

804
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560
You know, a bit more fluid,
obviously the iron, all of the

805
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,440
all of those are the building
blocks of life cannot be

806
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
replicated by humans.
Doesn't matter how good we think

807
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520
we are, we don't come up with
the synthetic blood, the trying

808
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,720
like the synthetic meats, right.
You won't be finding me eating

809
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,360
them to past that.
But does that make sense?

810
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,600
It they are.
Yeah.

811
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,280
For some reason we think we know
better.

812
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,200
And I still don't know what that
reason is.

813
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Well, that reason is killing the
planet in so many different

814
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,360
ways.
OK, the arrogance of humans,

815
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,240
right.
But if you.

816
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,080
What I say is if you look at
nature, you will get your

817
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,280
answers.
You will see this work really

818
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,320
quickly and.
And it staggered me.

819
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,280
I trialled it on some of my with
best friends and one of them as

820
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,000
a groomer and she has a dog that
was 9 and serious hip problems.

821
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,240
And I said, look, you know what
we've done to little Elmo And

822
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960
she goes, it's unbelievable.
And I said, well, here you go.

823
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,360
If you wouldn't mind being a try
and get.

824
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,600
So look, Jeff, you know, we
freed roar.

825
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,720
We're into it.
Let's do it.

826
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:21,600
So needs to say she phones her
back in 24 hours later in tears

827
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,640
and I'm well, I said, what
happened?

828
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,400
I think, you know, she goes for
the last two years.

829
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,200
He couldn't jump into the car.
What did you put in it?

830
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,280
She said, I know you're amazing,
but because I didn't tell her

831
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640
what it was, I just said try it.
And she said, what have you

832
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,600
done?
I went.

833
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,920
I haven't done anything.
So your dog jumped into the car

834
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,800
with literally 24 hours, right?
So how does that happen?

835
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,280
The dog felt so much better for
whatever reason.

836
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,960
You know, I'm not saying it was
a total tonic fluke, but

837
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,280
seriously, it's not the first
thing we're hearing now.

838
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,440
There's numerous stories coming
across that I'm going, yeah, I

839
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,480
love nature, right?
It isn't me.

840
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,600
I didn't.
I didn't do this.

841
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640
I'd love to say my idea.
No, I stole it.

842
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600
I stole it from nature and it's
the only place I would steal

843
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560
anything so.
Yeah, but nobody else, nobody

844
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,080
else is.
I don't know where else we can

845
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,080
get this.
I mean, I guess if you're a

846
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,400
hunter or if you know a hunter,
you could, you know, but.

847
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Absolutely.
Well, you know, that's, that's

848
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,680
a, that's a pretty small
percentage of us in the US,

849
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,160
unfortunately.
Like we just don't.

850
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,320
Yeah.
Unless, I mean.

851
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,040
You're right.
And with that, I say, yes, do

852
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,280
it.
You've got to know the animals

853
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,880
sort of free of TB and, and you
know those, whereas we can say

854
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,640
if that is the case here, you
know, it's not, please don't go

855
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,800
out shooting the neighbors,
dear.

856
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:42,200
You'll get me shot.
But you know, and I know there

857
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120
is a disease, I think in in the
American herds, they're calling

858
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,400
it the zombie disease.
But so, yeah.

859
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,680
But again, that's, yeah, that's
not the fault of America.

860
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,960
That's unfortunately, yeah.
Just I mean, I grew up eating

861
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
venison a lot because my stepdad
is a hunter.

862
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:03,040
So you know, I that's.
Why?

863
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,440
You look like you're 21, right?
Well, I do not but think like I

864
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,680
really do though look back and
I'm like, I would love to eat

865
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
like that again.
I, you know, he's old enough

866
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,360
that he doesn't really go
hunting anymore.

867
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,760
And I don't have anybody else
that does in my life that does

868
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,880
go hunting.
And I am not going to do it.

869
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Like I appreciate very much the
people that do do it for food,

870
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,560
not necessarily for sport, but
for food.

871
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,720
And but I just don't think I
could be the one to do that,

872
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:36,040
whether it is, you know.
Yeah.

873
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Letting that arrow go or
whatever.

874
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,960
I don't think I could do that,
but I definitely miss eating

875
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040
that way.
I have recently decided I'm

876
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,960
going to try to figure out how
to get elk in my diet because I

877
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,280
really like that.
But I do think that there is

878
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,200
something to be said for even
like for us humans, but also

879
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,480
even if we are DIY feeding our
dogs, like finding foods that

880
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,320
are not in the grocery store.
100% I think there's something

881
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,200
honestly, if if they can't find
anything else, just find this

882
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,840
blood honestly, just please.
I we are seeing massive, much

883
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,520
bigger differences.
Obviously, as you can imagine in

884
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,520
the kibble fed dogs, you know,
huge changes in them.

885
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,400
Things like, you know, that dry
nose, for example, is, you know,

886
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,800
they give it creams and also
it's never going to fix it,

887
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,000
right.
The dogs dehydrated.

888
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,120
It's that's the reason it's got
a dry nose.

889
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,800
You know, dandruff, all, all of
the conditions that dogs are

890
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,880
showing, terrible skin, you
know, terrible fur.

891
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Yeah.
Is it can be easily fixed with

892
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
something added, you know, and
I, and I get it, it's, it's

893
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,440
another thing to do.
But trust me, your dog will love

894
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,680
you more than they already do.
And they love us, the ends of

895
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,640
the earth.
Yeah, I'm really glad that you

896
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,520
have been able to get Totonics
into the US and that it is now

897
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,800
available.
Where can people find it?

898
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,920
All they need to do is go on
totonics.com and we're listing

899
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,400
all of the stores that are
starting to stock it in the US

900
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,880
and you can buy it online and
through Amazon now and through

901
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,440
our own website.
So there's plenty of places that

902
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,080
you can get hold of this product
now.

903
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,720
So yeah, please, please make
make my day and give dogs

904
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,840
something, Yeah, that nature
gave to me, really, to help

905
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,160
them.
And that's the key.

906
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,880
So you will do me a great favor
and I really appreciate you

907
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,560
having me on this podcast,
Jessica, so that I can let

908
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,400
people know.
Of course, of course.

909
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,120
I mean, I'm just, I'm impressed
with it.

910
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:39,640
I'm for not just what I've seen
in Kim, but also just that it's

911
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,160
new and different and innovative
and and that has been lacking a

912
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,920
lot.
And as you said, it really has

913
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,720
been lacking.
Like we're, we're just kind of

914
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,920
even even food companies are for
the most part just OK doing the

915
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,520
same thing over and over and
over again.

916
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880
There, there isn't a whole heck
of a lot of it outside of one

917
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,520
company that I know of.
There just isn't a whole lot of

918
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,720
innovation and.
And it's sad because there's so

919
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,480
much.
I know I was.

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,960
I can honestly say I was
horrified because Shane dragged

921
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,280
me out of, so I say semi
retirement.

922
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,240
I was training dogs and loving
what I do and that's something

923
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:24,560
else with Totonics.
If you buy anything above $35 or

924
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,400
that's starter pack or Sasha box
or anything, if you buy that,

925
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,640
you get access to free online
training that I developed with

926
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
the help of Professor Burns.
So it's neurological training.

927
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,200
You will be able to speak to
your dog for the first time

928
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,600
ever.
Their language you will be

929
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,720
blown.
I'm giving that away free.

930
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,120
It's something I didn't made
money on.

931
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,800
But for those people that back
to tonics, they're going to get

932
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,560
it for free because I want not
just the obviously their health

933
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,720
and vitality to improve.
I want their welfare to improve.

934
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,400
You'll never need to shout at
your dog.

935
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,120
You will communicate 100% with
them, which is for me is just

936
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,240
staggering.
I've struggled to do that for so

937
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,880
many years, but thanks to one of
your professors over in the US

938
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,160
who broke away and opened up a
university wing of a university

939
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,960
in Durham, NC, to study the
intelligence of dogs.

940
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,320
Thanks to him, we now have an
understanding of not just how

941
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,680
loyal they are, but how
intelligent are dogs, which is

942
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,320
kind of scary when.
So if you watch my videos, I do,

943
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,600
it's probably about an hour of
seminars.

944
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,680
They're broken up.
So I don't boy to death, But it

945
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,520
takes you into the brain of the
dog.

946
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
And.
Yeah, and you will understand

947
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,080
exactly how to communicate with
him, which is just phenomenal.

948
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,400
My dogs lock doors made-up.
Yeah, they'll do whatever.

949
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,640
They'll make the bed, They'll do
anything.

950
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,160
I ask the struggle because
they're a bit smaller now, but

951
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960
yeah, yeah, they'll do anything.
They just didn't get me beer out

952
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,440
of the fridge.
They are just, you'll see it on

953
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,320
the video.
They just.

954
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Yeah, I don't drink beer.
I'm only kidding.

955
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,960
They'll get me a bottle out the
fridge, but whatever else.

956
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:10,040
So yeah, your dogs are capable
of detecting oxygen levels,

957
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840
epilepsy, and these videos will
teach you how.

958
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,520
It's just phenomenal.
Teach you how to ask them.

959
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,040
They can already do it, right?
But you'll know how to ask.

960
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:25,600
So yeah, please fill your boots.
I'll send you the link, Jessica.

961
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,480
I haven't done it already.
Yeah, you know what, Shane might

962
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,280
have?
I went through the Teutonics

963
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,400
training.
He might have sent me another

964
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,840
one.
I'll go back in my emails and

965
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,720
let.
If not, just I'll flick it to

966
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:37,480
you.
But it's free.

967
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,480
Yeah, you've got Teutonics, so
you get it for free.

968
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,080
That's amazing.
That's amazing.

969
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,200
And I know, like, I feel like
this is a new staple in Kim's

970
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,760
diet.
I can't say enough about

971
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,280
hydrating our pets.
When somebody asks me like what

972
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600
is the hill I'm going to die on?
It's hydration.

973
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,640
She already like her morning
breakfast is raw goat's milk.

974
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,120
That's it.
Sometimes I'll put an egg yolk

975
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,600
in it, but that's like, that's
her breakfast.

976
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:14,280
And then being able to add the
blood at her because she only

977
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,880
really eats one meal a day in
the evening.

978
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,560
I I just, I feel like this is a
new staple in her diet.

979
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,480
So I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.

980
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,240
Yes.
I'll just give you a clue.

981
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,000
Cana thing that really tipped me
over the edge, Canine Natural

982
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,680
came out with a milk drink for
dogs and I can't think it was

983
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,280
cow's milk, but they're taking
out the lactose because

984
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,720
obviously dogs are lactose
intolerant and they put it on

985
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,640
the market and I just, I could
have cried, right?

986
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,280
It just broke my heart because
humans are still drinking milk

987
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,240
for what reason?
That's a growth hormone from a

988
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,680
cow, right?
It grows baby cows.

989
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,560
So it's full of growth hormone
that we don't really need and

990
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,200
it's definitely not species
appropriate.

991
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,600
I'm like, why would you do that?
I mean, dogs, mammals stop

992
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,040
drinking, you know, in nature
start drinking milk at the age

993
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,040
of 4 weeks and then they go on
to solids, which in dogs cases

994
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,480
is raw meat, you know,
regurgitate from the mum,

995
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,880
obviously.
But it's, it just baffles me

996
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,480
that we come up with, you know,
drinks that are the exact

997
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,760
opposite of what really they
should be having.

998
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,080
But we do.
I don't know why, but we do.

999
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,000
But eggs, yeah, you can't go
wrong with eggs.

1000
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480
You've got to be careful with
some dogs because they can

1001
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,480
become intolerant to the egg.
And that's because of the

1002
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,880
vaccine side of things.
You know, I mean, the new

1003
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,000
vaccines coming out, well, it
hasn't hit dogs yet.

1004
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,120
And the new vaccines aren't
drawn in embryos anymore, but

1005
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,760
the older vaccines were.
And so, you know, some of them

1006
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,320
are getting that, that
intolerance to them.

1007
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
But yeah, eggs are fantastic
food.

1008
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,920
You're dead right.
And pilchards, Yeah.

1009
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Any Omega threes?
Just steer clear of Omega sick

1010
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,080
as you know.
Well, yeah, as many as possible.

1011
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,040
I mean, I think what is the, the
ideal ratio is like 1 to 4 for a

1012
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,320
dog.
Is that right?

1013
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,120
No, you're like, no, no, Nope.
Just whatever.

1014
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,360
Whatever is in nature, whatever
is in that kind of meat, that's.

1015
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,280
Good.
And there's hardly any.

1016
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
In fact, it's a micronutrient
again in that at that level.

1017
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120
So we're never going to recreate
that unless you're feeding them

1018
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,560
raw.
If they're getting raw, then

1019
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,480
they're getting, they're getting
it and because it's in the

1020
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,000
blood, right.
So that's back to the where I

1021
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,920
am, you know, it's, it's
transported through that system.

1022
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,240
And if it's in there, then it's
it's required because otherwise

1023
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,040
they would get rid of it.
And that's the problem.

1024
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,760
They're getting so much that
they can't get rid of it, and

1025
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,200
that's what's causing the other
problems.

1026
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,880
Our dogs are dying younger and
younger, and there's a reason

1027
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,640
behind that.
So well, I am thankful for you

1028
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,520
bringing this new product line
to market and bringing it into

1029
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,720
the US for us to enjoy some
really amazing products out of

1030
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,400
New Zealand.
I, I feel like all the best

1031
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,480
products pretty much come out of
New Zealand for what you just,

1032
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,600
you know, said at the beginning
of this, like your standards are

1033
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,280
so high.
The animals are being raised the

1034
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,520
way nature intended.
And you know, that's not we, we,

1035
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,760
you know, there, there are some
ranches doing things right here,

1036
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,720
but it's a still a pretty small
percentage of our foods, our

1037
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:20,600
overall food supply in the US.
So it is much harder to find

1038
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,800
that kind of thing here.
So it is.

1039
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,560
Look, we're very fortunate.
We have very few people and huge

1040
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,040
lands, so and a climate that
allows us to do it, you know,

1041
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,880
and US isn't as fortunate as
that.

1042
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480
It hasn't, you know, it's got a
much higher population.

1043
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,520
So I understand the
difficulties.

1044
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,120
But yeah, it is.
Yeah, we are very fortunate.

1045
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,720
And it's just, for me, it was
meant to be.

1046
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,440
I was meant to come here and do
this and yeah, so that's what

1047
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,040
I'm doing with people like you
that can help me get it out

1048
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,400
there.
So.

1049
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Well, I very much appreciate it.
I appreciate you taking your

1050
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,160
time to come on and talk to all
of us about it.

1051
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,280
Guys, go check out Totonics,
TOTONIK s.com.

1052
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,920
That will be in the show notes.
So you can just click the link

1053
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,480
and go.
And yeah, I'm, I'm excited to

1054
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,640
hear you guys tell me like come
on Instagram, send me some DMS.

1055
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Let me know once you try this,
what you're seeing in your dogs,

1056
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,400
what changes you're seeing
Because I think, like I said,

1057
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,200
even with Kimberly being a fresh
fed dog, there are still

1058
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,800
benefits to be had.
So with that, thank you again

1059
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,280
and Jeff for being here guys,
have a fabulous rest of your

1060
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,680
week.
Please give your pets some extra

1061
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,200
love from me and from Jeff.
Yes please.

1062
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,120
And I will talk to you next.
Fantastic, Jessica.