237. Food as Medicine for Dogs: A Functional Nutrition Approach

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Hey there, it's Jess.
If you're new here, I'm a

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certified professional canine
nutritionist, raw nutrition

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certified for dogs and cats, a
holistic pet health coach, the

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founder of Wild Wellness Pet,
and the host of the Pet

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something better, a better way
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to the pet parenting reset.
Welcome back, pet parent.

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So today is so near and dear to
my heart because there is a

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shift happening in the
veterinary industry and there is

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There's a lot of fight, there's
a lot of pushback to what is

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happening, which is completely
understandable.

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Change is hard, but I'm here for
it because I feel like yes, with

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everything there's good and bad,
but with this, I feel like

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there's so much more good than
there than there is bad.

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But people have a really hard
time with change and especially

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in this industry.
So I'm biased, obviously,

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because this is what I do for a
living as well.

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Like I, I, I do this podcast,
which is a labor of love.

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And what I really do is help pet
parents with their pets.

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And usually that means their
pets are really sick.

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And I work very like I, I am
very clear about I am not

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replacing your veterinarian.
Your veterinarian is still very

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important in in your animal's
care like and and I, I talk

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about this a lot where you as a
pet parent are like the leader.

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You are the CEO of your pet's
life and you need to hire and

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fire, you know, appropriately.
And there are a lot of

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veterinarians out there that are
just fighting so hard against

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change in their industry.
But the reality is, as far as I

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can tell and to with all of the
veterinarians I have talked to,

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which is a of small percentage,
change is needed.

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Change is needed for so many
reasons.

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Change is needed first and
foremost, because our pets are

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suffering the past 50-60 eighty.
I don't know how many years are

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dogs and cats lives like their
lifespans are shorter than they

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ever.
Their quality of life is worse

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than it has ever been.
And we just we need we need

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change.
And on the other hand, when we

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look at veterinarians, they have
the highest suicide rates.

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They don't want their own
practices.

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They don't want to manage
payroll.

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They don't want to manage
employees.

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So everything is being sold out
to mega corporations because

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they want to be employees.
They don't want to have their

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own businesses, and I understand
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They're overworked, they're
overstressed, they're

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overwhelmed, and something's got
to give.

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So my guest today is Amanda
Smith, and she is the founder of

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Canine Gut Solutions, and she
actually has spent 20 years in

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the veterinary industry and has
transitioned into being a

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functional canine nutritionist.
So welcome, Amanda Smith, how

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are you doing today?
I am doing lovely.

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How about yourself?
Good, I'm good.

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I'm really hoping that 2026 is
like the like the turning point

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because there's movement, like
there's been movement for a

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handful of years to where we're
bringing people in who maybe

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haven't actually been in the
veterinary industry before.

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But that doesn't mean that we
can't learn things.

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That doesn't mean that we can't
be helpful and provide services

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alongside what our veterinarians
are doing, especially in cases

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where our veterinarians just
don't have the bandwidth to deal

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with it.
And nutrition is one of those

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things.
So and gut health, Oh my

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goodness, Like I'm just going to
say this and get this out of the

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way because I feel like the
majority of what is actually

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done in a veterinarian's office
is counter to what we should be

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doing for gut health, right?
And it is so important because I

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mean, what 70 depending on where
you look, who are you talking

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to?
70 roughly percent the immune

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system is in the gut.
And so there's just so much

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going on.
So tell me first of all, like

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your history, your trajectory,
getting you from, well, you've

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done a lot and then going
through being a veterinary

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technician and now saying, you
know what, I actually want to

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help patients in a very
different way.

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I want to help these dogs in a
very different way.

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And so now you're a functional
canine nutritionist.

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I love, I love that term.
Yes, yeah.

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Gosh, being in the in the world
was a blessing because I learned

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so much, you know, starting out
in the exam room.

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I was in surgery and then
towards the end of my career I

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was doing physical therapy for
cats and dogs.

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So I think that's where I
started to branch out to.

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There are other ways to help our
animals than the traditional

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way.
And I feel like good old, Oh my

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gosh, I'm going to look at it.
The forever dog is kind of what

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opened my eyes.
And then checking out different,

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oh gosh, the words,
documentaries and opening your

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eyes and being open to what's
out there, what's available,

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different avenues to kind of go
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And I noticed it with my own
dog's health journey that what

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I'm feeding is not helping.
They're still having diarrhea.

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They're still so my one dog,
Izzy, she had pancreatitis and

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the veterinarian said, here's a
hydrolyzed dog food.

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This is what she can have and
that's it.

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And then I went back a couple
weeks later and I said, this

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isn't sustainable.
Like I can't financially keep up

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with this.
And she said find a lower fat

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dog food.
And my mind was blown just

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hearing that that's that's it.
This is your hope.

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This is all you can do for your
dog and what you were saying

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earlier that you know, hire and
fire.

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You have to be your own pets
advocate.

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You have to stand up for your
dog and even for yourself and

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your own healthcare journey.
And that's where it came that I

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was like, I'm going to dive into
nutrition and how I can help my

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dog holistically from the inside
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It all starts with the bowl.
It like there's so much you can

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do and that's kind of where
everything was born is getting

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to the root cause.
If we're not getting to the root

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cause, then we're going to keep
having these issues.

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Talking to a client last night,
you know that they have itchy

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skin.
The doctor veterinarian said

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give them Benadryl.
That's not going to solve your

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problems.
That's a Band-Aid and I went off

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on a tangent, but being a
functional canine nutritionist,

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I'm helping my canine guardians
get to the root cause.

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And a holistic health journey is
not linear.

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It's not that quick fix.
It's it's the long game, but

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it's the long game that's going
to get you where you want to go

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and have little successes along
the way.

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So it's it's a lot of fun.
Well, yeah, and I actually it

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just for whatever reason, like a
light bulb went off in my head

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cuz I'm like most of the time.
Well, number one, people

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constantly have to remind me
that not everybody knows what I

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know.
So I like skip over so many

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steps.
I don't say so many things, but

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I, it, it like baffles me that
people aren't out there looking

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for better, that people aren't
out there saying this, this is a

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Band-Aid.
Like I actually want to get to

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the root cause.
But the reality is that there,

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there are people out there that
are happy with a Band-Aid.

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They're like, for the, for the
time being at least, they're

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happy with the Band-Aid.
They're like, OK, give me

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whatever drug I need to make my
dog stop itching.

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And end of day, that's like the
end of story.

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We're going, we're going to bed
and we're actually going to be

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able to sleep tonight.
And they're happy with that.

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But then there are other people
who are like, OK, I put my dog

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on this medication and a year
later, now I've got this tumor

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that's popped up, right?
And and so it's usually

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something that's like really
horrible that happens that send

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people down this like rabbit
hole of, oh, crap, what should I

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actually be doing?
Because all that's happening

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when I go to the veterinarian,
again, no offense to

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veterinarians, because what they
do, what they're trained to do,

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like is so important.
We need them.

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Please.
You know, we need to figure, we

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need to figure something out so
that they're not burned out, so

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that they're not overwhelmed, so
that they're not overworked, so

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that they don't have the highest
suicide rate because we need

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these people.
But what they, when people

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actually realize, like there's
so much more I could be doing

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for my pet to actually get to
the root cause of what's going

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on and reverse it.
So or, or at least support the

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type of boarding that I have to
use because I'm not a

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veterinarian.
Support the body to bring it

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back into a a state of
homeostasis Is is the goal.

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What is it?
So OK, it was a pancreatitis

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with your dog.
I actually know a lot of people

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who it's pancreatitis.
They're like, I don't understand

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why this is the only option.
And I also don't understand.

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I think not me these, you know,
people whose whose dogs wind up

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a pancreatitis.
I also don't understand why,

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like, fat is so villainized.
I'm glad when people get to that

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point because that's a whole
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I was actually just, that's so
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I was explaining that to a
client last night.

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She was like, there's, you know,
I cooked this Turkey and there's

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all this fat.
And I'm like, OK, let's talk

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about this really quickly.
I'm like, OK, let's talk about

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the Turkey.
And let's talk about the

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carbohydrates your dog was
eating for a very, very long

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time.
So what happened on your journey

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with your dog and the
pancreatitis?

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She so she started out with
just, she was on kibble and

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that's where it all started
feeding her different foods and

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it was just the constant
vomiting and then just after

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another after another.
And then we go to the vet and

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then we're put on different
medications and then we do an

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ultrasound and we're seeing how
things are inflamed in there.

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And then that's kind of where it
came down to what's

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pancreatitis.
So on that journey it was OK,

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here's this food, feed her this
and then we move over to I don't

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feel like that's it.
So then I started making her own

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food.
I use animal diet formulator

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because I like to know the
ingredients and what's going

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into her bowl.
And it's even trial and error

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for her food bowl and knowing
what's sensitive, what's a good,

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what's going to support her and
not 'cause more inflammation and

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having a dog food journal.
So journaling what's what's

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triggering her?
What's not triggering her?

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What's, you know, my poor
husband, he's like, what are you

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doing now?
I said, I got to go see her

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poop.
I got to see what her poop looks

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like.
Is she doing good?

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Is she not like my kids?
They're like, mom, what are you

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doing?
Paying attention to their poop

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and seeing what that's telling
you.

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And that's again, only part of
the puzzle.

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So making her food and
constantly going back and forth.

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So we ended up again, just
feeding whole fresh foods and

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rebuilding her gut microbiome to
a healthier state.

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So that's kind of kind of her
journey.

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So what are some of the
principles you use?

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Obviously every dog is
different, every situation is

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different.
You don't know what you're

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starting with all the time, but
what are some of like the

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foundational principles that you
have for rebuilding a gut

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microbiome so for.
Me, if someone's coming to me

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and they're saying my dog has a
messed up gut and we need to

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figure it out, I use tools.
So I use test.

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Don't guess You have a lovely
test.

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I use animal Biome.
They help get to the gut

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microbiome.
What's going on inside the dog

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and seeing what the imbalances
are, you know, like you had

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said, 70 to 80% depending on
where you're reading, the immune

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system lives in there.
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aggravated, we got to get to
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figuring out what's going on,
seeing what their

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recommendations are.
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of how to become the gut, how do
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state and creating a recipe
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and not constantly fight against
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direction.
So that's kind of where I start

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when I'm working with my clients
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successful in the sense of what
can we, I don't want to say

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afford to do, but what's
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What can we do for your dog?
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can do if they only knew.
And that is what really kick

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started my business because
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there were so many things that
they would come into the Animal

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Hospital for.
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like you could have avoided the
situation.

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You could have, you know, not
gone to the point.

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euthanasia's due to financial

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issues.
For example spaying and

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neutering is controversial.
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female dog is not spayed and
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knowing she can get a pyometra.
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surgery and the dog gets
euthanized.

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I'm like, there's, you know, if

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they only knew, you know, maybe
if they only knew that they

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could have pet insurance.
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have covered it anyway.
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And that's even hard too.
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do so much we also can do with
their food, with what's going in

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their mouths, what's helping
heal them not.

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controversial word as well.

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What's helping their body thrive
is really it.

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Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot.

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is different, like there is.
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one of the thing, the two big
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There are so many things, but
the two big things that I

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really, really wish we could
unwind in pet food marketing is

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feeding the same thing for their
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Not having any sort of rotation.
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formulation is going to work for
every animal, all breeds, all

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species.
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species, all breeds, all ages.
I mean, yes, we have veterinary

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diets.
I hate, I hate, I hate them so

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much, but I hate them so much.
I mean, they're band aids, but

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they're not used as band aids.
Like if they were used as band

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aids, I don't think I would hate
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But I mean, I've done episodes
where like I literally taken a

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label from the same pet food
manufacturer from for the same

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like type of whatever protein
food from the like regular bag

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of food that you would buy
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formulation of that food that
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the veterinary diet are so much
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There's so much less meat, which
should be the most expensive

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ingredient, and yet the
veterinary diet is twice, three

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times the price, right?
Like it's, it drives me

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absolutely insane.
I hate it so much.

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Yeah.
But those are the things like

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feeding the same thing for your
whole dog's life, like their

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their whole life that that just
blows my mind and then wondering

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why when you feed them anything
new, they have digestive upset

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and then that that one
formulation is good for

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everyone.
Like what are your thoughts?

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I've given my thoughts,
obviously.

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What are your?
Thoughts.

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No.
And that's what we were all led

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to believe.
We were all led to believe that

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this is what you're supposed to
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You know, pick a food and stick
with it and that's it.

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And the, the idea of bringing in
a new food and rotating was

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scary and intimidating and like,
why would I do that?

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My dog likes this food.
They're doing good on this food

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and what I've also come to know
that when you're feeding your

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dog whole fresh foods, how much
they adapt quickly and talking

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about like a healthy dog, you
know, not a dog that has issues

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switching them to whole fresh
foods can be a little bit more

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time consuming and more aware of
how to do that.

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A healthy dog switching to whole
fresh foods will blossom like,

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you know, that you're, you're
scared into this theory of don't

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switch up their foods.
They're going to get diarrhea.

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They're going to get, you know,
pancreatitis.

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But that's not the case
typically with a healthy dog you

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give them and you know, talking
about poop, apparently poop is a

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big thing for me, how small
their poops are when they eat

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fresh food and their body is
absorbing all the nutrients from

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this fresh food.
But then when you have a Kimble

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fed dog, how stinky and massive
a Chihuahua could poop

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sometimes.
So yeah, it's it's unfortunate

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that that's what we were all led
to believe that you pick a food

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and you stick with one.
And now, now that social media

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has been able to open people's
eyes to what's possible, what is

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OK?
Because if you go to the same

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veterinarian for, you know, your
whole life, oh, well, my mom

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went to this veterinarian, so
I'm going to go to this

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veterinarian, then your
viewpoint is never going to

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change.
But now what?

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Again, with the social media
platforms, you get to hear

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different viewpoints.
You get to know, OK, this is

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possible.
This is good for my dog.

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And that's when the gates start
to open.

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And the other thing too, is to
be mindful of who you're getting

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your information from.
Not every Joe Schmo out there

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knows 100% what they're talking
about.

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So if something sounds
interesting to you, take it and

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look it up.
Do your own homework on it.

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Don't take their, you know,
their information, 100% value

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because that could just be their
story.

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That could just be their
patients story, not necessarily

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your dogs.
So.

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I, you know, having this podcast
and being able to get to more

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people, more people want to
learn about their dogs.

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And you know, thank you for
giving me this opportunity to be

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here because more people want to
learn.

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They want to do better for their
dogs and I'm here for it.

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Yeah, well, there are so many
things to unpack in there.

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Like 1.
I like, it is so hard for me to

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like even wrap my head around
the idea of being like, I can

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call, I can easily call myself a
content creator because that's

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what I do.
I feel confident and that's what

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I do.
But anytime somebody calls me

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like an influencer, I have a
hard time with that.

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Not because I don't think I am.
I think just having a presence

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on social media.
You are an influencer whether

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you want to be or not.
But like, I think we've have

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such a negative connotation to
that word anymore.

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And some of us are actually
trying to, to, to like really be

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good influencers and like almost
D influence.

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Like I don't want you buying 100
different supplements.

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I don't want you creating this
like supplement graveyard

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because I've been there and I
like even even at the point

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where I realized I had a
supplement graveyard, I still

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had a hard time partying with it
because I'm like, I spent so

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much money on this stuff, right?
I have a hard time partying with

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it.
But like, it is what it is.

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We, I think we have to like
embrace the fact that if you

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have a social media presence,
just by default, you're going to

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be an influencer in one way
shape or form.

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But I think I don't think like
that burden should fall 100% on

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us because I feel like as a
consumer, you have a

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responsibility to understand
that while yes, this may be an

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incredible product that is
formulated amazing with the best

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quality ingredients and blah,
blah, blah.

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And all the things that still
may not be the right product for

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your individual animal.
And I don't think that like, and

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I think that's why so many
influencers have like this

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negative connotation.
They're like, no, this actually

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really is a great product.
I just don't, I can't tell you

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like I'm putting out a video for
the population, you know,

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millions of people potentially
to see, I don't know what's

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going on with your individual
animal.

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I can tell you that like, yeah,
I do consultations if you want

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to talk about your individual
animal.

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But I do think there's like this
responsibility of the consumer

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that we overlook a lot of times.
And I feel like that's one of

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the things that I love about
doing this podcast so much is

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that I feel like I am giving the
people that are consuming this

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content, the consumers a better
understanding of like how to

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evaluate these things when
they're looking at them.

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At least that's my hope.
I don't know, it's your

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intention, the intention, right?
But OK, I want to talk about

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poop too, because like it was
funny when I, when I first

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started dating my boyfriend, I
was like, certain words kept

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coming up and he was like, I
have never in my life.

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Like we talked about.
I'm like, you're going to hear

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the word poop so much.
And then for a little while all

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we talked about was placentas.
And then, and then like right

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now his thing is I, I'm just,
he's struggling so much with the

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fact that our kitten is obsessed
with rabbit's feet and little

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quail, like dehydrated quail
chicks.

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And I, I'm like, they're,
they're all over the house and

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he bats them everywhere.
And he literally will like put

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them in his mouth and walk
around and do like his trills

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and he'll like toss them and
throw them and go chase them.

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And he's like, how is my house
full of dead animal park?

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I'm like, wow, let me explain to
you.

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I told you this a long time ago.
So anyway, back to poop.

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I I actually that this is
another thing that I have a hard

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time with.
I don't wanna.

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Yeah, I do.
I do have a hard time with it

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because every single one of my
clients, they feel like diarrhea

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should never happen.
And I'm like, OK, I get that.

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Chronic diarrhea, an extended
episode of diarrhea like this is

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something that we do want to
make sure doesn't happen.

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But diarrhea in and of itself
like that is a symptom.

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It is giving us clues.
It is giving us information of

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what is going on.
And there are times like you

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were talking about when we're
transitioning foods, if we're

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doing a detox, if there are
Paris, like there are, there are

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instances in which we, for me at
least, unless I'm dealing with a

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puppy or a senior or really,
really sick dog, I'm like, I

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actually want to see a little
bit of diarrhea because the body

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needs to purge, right?
And that for some people, I feel

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like is really hard.
So how do you handle diarrhea?

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Yes, Oh my goodness.
And it is so interesting that,

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you know, their first go to is
go to the vet, go to the vet, go

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to.
The vet and stop it.

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I mean, like, listen, we get it,
your dog probably pooped all

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over your house and you wanted
to stop right now.

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But yeah, OK, so then you stop
it and then you still don't know

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why it happened.
That's a problem because sure,

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it could just be a fluke thing.
It happened and then it done,

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you know, you're done.
You do your antibiotics, that's

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another story.
So diarrhea, I, I was going to

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say I love, I love A to use
marshmallow roots and slippery

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Elm in my toolbox.
That something you can get over

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the counter that will help
soothe the GI tract.

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I personally for my households
will do for my dogs.

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I will do ground Turkey and
pumpkin and sometimes sweet

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potato to help the stomach get
back to a calm state.

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And even before that, it could
be be a 24 hour fast to

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completely reset the gut and get
it back to a happy state.

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And throughout all this, you
know, letting your dog drink

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some water, maybe some bone
broth, depending on how well

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they're doing and keeping an eye
on it.

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But a lot of my clients do
panic, do lose their marbles,

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and that's not necessarily
because of the switch in the

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transition.
It's more so problems they had

447
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,280
coming into me and my, you know,
my support that Ioffer and

448
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,320
telling them so my one client
did use marshmallow root and

449
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,600
she's like, I'm telling
everybody about it.

450
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,200
Like it just worked so well and
I'm happy, I'm happy and

451
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,120
thankful that, you know, this
type of information can get out

452
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,680
to people and they can look up
the resources and see what it

453
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920
can do and the science behind
it.

454
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760
And the, you know, it doesn't
always have to be a vet visit.

455
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,960
I feel like I want to stress
that it doesn't always have to

456
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,680
be.
You can evaluate, see what's

457
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,440
going on.
If your dog is lethargic, if

458
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,840
your dog is not eating, if your
dog is not itself.

459
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Yes, please, please, please,
please a healthy dog.

460
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520
That's what we're talking about.
Healthy dogs got the poops still

461
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,760
wagging its tail, still being a
little nut job.

462
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Then 24 hour fast, see how it
goes, see what's going on.

463
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,720
Give them a little bit of food
and small frequent meals could

464
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,160
be helpful.
And you know, we keep saying

465
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
throughout this podcast, every
dog is an individual.

466
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Every dog is its own dog.
So treat it as such.

467
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,520
You know, if you see online that
it says do XY and Z, that works

468
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440
for majority doesn't necessarily
it's going to mean it's going to

469
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
fix your dog.
So being mindful to that too.

470
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,520
You know, there's so many rabbit
holes and avenues you can go

471
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,640
down.
Speaking of rabbit holes, I'm

472
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,560
going to take a little tangent
here because I know my listeners

473
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,480
love when I do this.
Yes, like we've been talking

474
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,800
about how most everything we
read, most everything we see,

475
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,760
most like data in general is
based on averages.

476
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,280
And I was just watching
something the other day that I'm

477
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,080
so interested.
Like my primary degree is in

478
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,360
psychology.
I'm so interested in psychology.

479
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,080
And so anytime like something
comes up in my feed, I'm like, I

480
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680
need to do it.
Like I will get very interested

481
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,120
in like start doing a deep dive
on these different things that

482
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600
that I hear people talk about,
especially if it's like, you

483
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480
know, a doctor on a podcast or
something.

484
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,880
And whoever it was, I don't
remember who it was, was talking

485
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:31,360
about how so much of what we're
seeing now, because it's very it

486
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,440
became very popular with like
the whole like sexual harassment

487
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,080
me too thing where all of a
sudden in the past, like 5-6, I

488
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,560
don't know how many years we
have to say not all right.

489
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Like before, I feel like it was
kind of just implied that

490
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,880
anytime we are giving
information, it's a

491
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,360
generalization.
And now people don't understand

492
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,880
generalizations.
And it actually is a form of

493
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:10,240
cognitive dissonance where
people get hung up on their one

494
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,440
individual experience.
And I, I heard somebody say this

495
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080
the other day with, it might
have actually been something

496
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,360
that BC wrote BC henshin where,
you know, somebody will say,

497
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,360
well, when I was a kid, my dog
lived on pedigree and they lived

498
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480
20 years and they were fine.
So it's fine for my dog now.

499
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,840
And so they have this like 1
instance, which by the way was

500
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,400
how long ago and how much has
changed since then, right?

501
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Like how much more toxic is our
world?

502
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,360
How much more, how much more
worse really, are the

503
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,920
ingredients in that pet food?
But anyway, like they get so

504
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,920
hung up on the one that they
refuse to recognize the many.

505
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,080
And I like that.
That really hit a chord with me

506
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,040
because I feel stuck in this box
where anytime I make any sort of

507
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,440
content, I have to be really
careful to say not all because

508
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,480
people are like so quick to be
like, not because 20 years ago

509
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
when I was a teenager, I
remember my cousin's best

510
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600
friend's mom did XY is right.
I don't.

511
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,160
And it actually is a form of
cognitive, cognitive dissonance

512
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680
that that so many people have
today.

513
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000
So that's my little Ted talk and
tangent.

514
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,600
So thank you very much for
listening.

515
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:37,000
But I'm I'm just stuck on on the
fact that we now have to say not

516
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,280
all to everything we're talking
about.

517
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,400
I think I don't know if it's you
or me that is OK.

518
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360
She's having some technical
issues.

519
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Yeah, yeah, I did.
See it.

520
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,520
I figured it out.
Yeah, I'm glad.

521
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Thank you.
Yeah, of course.

522
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,120
OK.
Thank you.

523
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,240
I think we're good.
OK, good.

524
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600
My goodness.
OK, I hope.

525
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,280
OK.
Hopefully we're good.

526
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Hopefully we didn't lose all
that.

527
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,840
We'll see.
OK, So I don't know how much of

528
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,760
my Ted talk you heard, but
basically it's it's it's a form

529
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,240
of cognitive dissonance that
people can't see past the one to

530
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,400
acknowledge the many, basically.
And so for me, I feel like that

531
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,000
makes it difficult to make to
make content and to and because

532
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
all you get are trolls and
people talking about how you

533
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360
know this one time at band camp,
right?

534
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Like it's just like they can't,
right?

535
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Like they can't.
And so anytime I'm making

536
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:57,040
content, I always feel the need
to be like not all because feel

537
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,480
like we have to say that anymore
and it's true, but also like I

538
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,200
think it just it keeps a lot of
content maybe stunted.

539
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,840
A little bit not, I don't want
to say not authentic.

540
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,320
It's it does keep away some of
the real stuff because you do

541
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,600
have to think of the backlash.
You do have to think about, you

542
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:28,120
know, you know, how well do I
feel to take to take on others

543
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,400
opinions absorb how people are
going to perceive this.

544
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,600
So I say that in a kind of like,
because it also takes a certain

545
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,040
type of person to not care to
know that it's them.

546
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:48,280
It's not you, it's them fighting
their own battles and pretty

547
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,440
much pushing off their own
feelings onto you.

548
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,840
And it has nothing to do with
you, which was something

549
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,440
honestly hard for me to
understand being in business.

550
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440
It's, you know, someone being
upset for something.

551
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,640
And of course, I have no problem
taking the faults if I did

552
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120
something wrong because that's
human being.

553
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,800
But knowing if someone's mad at
me, if someone's upset with me,

554
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,239
what's going on with them?
What are they going through that

555
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,199
they are backlashing or getting
upset.

556
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960
You know, if someone says I
don't agree with your post,

557
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,679
Jessica, well, what happened to
their dog?

558
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,840
Because they said pedigree, you
know, I don't agree.

559
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,480
I don't do this, I don't do
that.

560
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,800
How dare you?
It's because it triggered

561
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,639
something in themselves.
But it does.

562
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,520
You have to think I made a post
about again about a pyometra and

563
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360
on TikTok and people came for
me.

564
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,960
This woman's telling you not to
spay your dog and like just

565
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600
going at me and I posted another
video.

566
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,080
I said you guys heard what you
wanted to hear.

567
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,000
That's exactly what you're
projecting on to me because

568
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200
that's not what I said.
That's not how I said it.

569
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,920
But there's only, you know, how
much can you play that game of,

570
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,240
you know, that's not what I
said.

571
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,600
This is how I said it.
It is what it is, and if you

572
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,440
have all the right intentions of
helping people, then what does

573
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840
it really matter?
Yeah, it does take some thick

574
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,680
skin.
I know some friends, colleagues

575
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,200
who regularly are like, they
just want to give up, you know?

576
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,320
They're like, I don't know if I
can handle this.

577
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920
And I'm like, I've been there.
Definitely been there.

578
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,840
I've had literal death threats
against me and my animals.

579
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120
I've been there.
Like it's hard.

580
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840
You just have to either say this
isn't for me.

581
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160
I don't, I don't want this kind
of negativity in my life and I'm

582
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,760
just going to leave it behind or
say, you know, I believe in what

583
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,760
I'm doing and I'm going to keep
telling my truth.

584
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,080
Whatever.
My truth may be, and again, that

585
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,440
comes back to, I think the
responsibility that the consumer

586
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,360
has that they often don't want
to believe they have, but they

587
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:17,640
do in in assessing the content
that they're consuming and, you

588
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920
know, figuring out who aligns
with them and who doesn't.

589
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:27,160
And I will be the first one to
admit like I am so easily

590
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560
influenced on a TikTok shop
item.

591
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,760
I am an easy sell if it is on
TikTok shop.

592
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,760
I don't know what it is, but I
understand that every once in a

593
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,920
while I get a dud of an item and
I take on that responsibility

594
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,320
and then I go I may not trust.
That influencer, Yes, Life

595
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,360
lessons.
Life lessons.

596
00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,400
Right, I know like this is, you
know, but anyway, it it, it just

597
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,360
is what it is.
That's the world we live in.

598
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,960
I think we have to be smarter
about it.

599
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,240
But OK, so you do have a
community of people you are

600
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,240
helping educate.
How do like talk to me about

601
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,200
your business, what you do, how
you reach people, how people can

602
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,200
find you, all the things.
Yeah, yeah.

603
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,360
So Canine gunsolutions.com is my
website and I currently offer

604
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960
free consultations.
So the free consultation is to

605
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,240
let's have a conversation.
What's going on with your dog?

606
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,200
How can I help you?
And well, that results in, you

607
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600
know, us working together or
will it result in here are some

608
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,040
free resources because I had
someone say to me, wow, that's

609
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,040
you know, how, how do you do
free consultations?

610
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
And I'm like, well, I have a
schedule.

611
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040
So you, if you see on my
schedule that it aligns with

612
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080
you, then join my schedule.
If it doesn't, then it doesn't.

613
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,320
But I want to help as many
people as possible.

614
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,320
And again, if it's just the free
consult and I'm telling you,

615
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,640
hey, I can't afford to do, you
know, fresh food right now.

616
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Can I do half kibble and half
fresh food?

617
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,960
What does that look like,
Amanda?

618
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,840
OK, let's add some sardines,
blueberries and eggs.

619
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,960
You know, there's so much they
can do to help them, just to

620
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,880
help them go down the right path
to help their dog because that's

621
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,280
all we're here for.
We're here to do the best that

622
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,480
we can.
And if I can help them just do a

623
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,320
little bit good, then their dogs
going to do so much better.

624
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,040
I have an online community as
well.

625
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,920
It's a private community, a paid
community where you're being

626
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800
guided and supported by a
functional canine nutritionist.

627
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,960
I have experts join my community
each month to go over different

628
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,680
topics on ways to help your dog
live longer.

629
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,240
And it kind of selfishly made
for myself because I love to

630
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,880
learn new ways to help my dog
live longer.

631
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,240
What's the latest trick?
What's the latest thing?

632
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Everyday I'm learning something
new.

633
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,720
And I think that's something
that parents can think about

634
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:16,040
too, is each day how can I do
better?

635
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,640
And I don't want to make that
into an overwhelming thing, but

636
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,760
just to pick one thing and to
learn about it and to dive into

637
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000
it.
So inside the community, there's

638
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440
that, there's the support,
there's discounts on my services

639
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,320
as well.
I'm mostly on Instagram where I

640
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:44,000
share a lot of my content and
you'll see more of Dobby and

641
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Stella's behind me sleeping.
We got Kipper in the cage and

642
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,320
Scarlet Joe, so you'll see all
of us there.

643
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,720
But if we decide to work
together, then that is a custom,

644
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,360
complete and balanced recipe
where I use Animal Diet

645
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,960
Formulator where I'm formulating
those recipes.

646
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
We work together over a month's
time to help you make that

647
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,600
transition to whole fresh foods.
Trial and error, Amanda, this

648
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,800
doesn't work for Fluffy.
This works better.

649
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,960
Let's try this.
And giving us that month is to

650
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,640
help us ensure your success to
ensure you're going to be

651
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,600
consistent with your dog's
health journey.

652
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,520
And that's kind of where my
membership came to life because

653
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,680
my clients would say, well, what
do I do from here?

654
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,320
You know, we worked together for
a month.

655
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,800
I want continued support.
Then my community was born.

656
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,440
And then this year, I am now
starting three recipes that are

657
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,600
complete, complete and balanced
over the recipes.

658
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,560
So it's not one complete and
balanced recipe and one it's

659
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,080
balanced over time.
It's really to help the dynamic

660
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,200
of people, people that want to
throw recipes together on the

661
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,040
fly instead of bulk preparing
the recipes.

662
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,040
And I see value in each of these
and I feel if people know how to

663
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,680
do it properly, they will do it
well.

664
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,880
And it's giving them that
guidance to do that and not feel

665
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,880
overwhelmed and exhausted and
thrown to Google, you know, your

666
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,520
nights away.
So that's what we do here.

667
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:35,480
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I love all
of that.

668
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,160
I do a lot of that myself.
And I have a lot of people ask

669
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,240
me why I still do free discovery
calls.

670
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,840
And I'm like I 1, I don't really
want somebody buying my services

671
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
if I haven't talked to them.
I don't like, I want to know

672
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680
what's going on with your pet.
And I want to make sure that I'm

673
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,880
the right person to help you
because maybe I'm, maybe I'm not

674
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,280
the right person to help you.
And I'm going to be the first to

675
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,360
tell you that if you have a dog
with an aggressive cancer, I may

676
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,640
not be the right person to help
you.

677
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,760
Like I probably could help you,
but I might know somebody better

678
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,000
that could help you.
And I, I refer a lot of people a

679
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,760
lot of times because I'm like,
you know, I, I, I have things

680
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,760
that I do so often that I know I
do them really well.

681
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,840
And then I have things that I'm
like, I could help you, but I

682
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,720
really feel like you're going to
get a better benefit if you go

683
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000
talk to this person.
And, and I think it's, I think

684
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,800
it's good for the client too, to
like get a sense of who you are

685
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,240
and what the process is going to
be like and what they're

686
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,520
actually getting for their
money.

687
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Because I know I, it seems like
I charge a lot, but what they

688
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,480
get over six months or 12 month
period of time, like it really

689
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,080
is not, it is less than what you
would be paying to see a

690
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,680
veterinarian for the same amount
of time.

691
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,800
But like an it's, it's an
upfront cost that people are

692
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,800
like, Oh my gosh, that's, that's
a lot of money.

693
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,560
I'm like, yeah, but you're
getting like, you're getting me

694
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,560
for a year.
Like, you know what I mean?

695
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,200
Like you're getting me for a
year.

696
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Let's, let's, let's be
realistic.

697
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,920
And so I want to make sure that
like people are comfortable and

698
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160
confident.
They are, and I am that we're

699
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,240
going to work together well and
that things are going to like

700
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560
mesh well.
But that's also why I like that

701
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,520
you have that community because
people can get a better sense of

702
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,000
like who you are and how you
work and really get a lot of

703
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,120
pointers if they're not really
ready to, to hire somebody

704
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520
one-on-one.
Because I've definitely talked

705
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
to people that I'm like, you
don't need me and you don't

706
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
really need anybody.
Like you're, you really don't

707
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480
need anybody like, unless you
just want somebody to be your

708
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,600
cheerleader.
If you want to pay for somebody

709
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,960
to be your cheerleader, that's
great.

710
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,320
You can do that, but you don't
need, you don't need anybody.

711
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,480
I've had that happen too, where
I'm like you really, I don't

712
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480
know what, like you just want to
spend money.

713
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
That's cool.
Sure, here for it.

714
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,280
Awesome.
Well, so Canine Gut

715
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080
solutions.com and they can get
any and everything that they can

716
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,240
get to your community, they can
get to your services.

717
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,320
I'm sure you have like probably
a blog and all the.

718
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,360
Things.
All the things.

719
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,240
Yep.
All the things, all the things.

720
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:19,200
And so it's monthly that you're
doing the you bring somebody in

721
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880
to to talk to them.
That's really cool too.

722
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,280
I like.
That this month on January is a

723
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,880
local friends in New Jersey that
does she's certified in canine

724
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,400
massage.
So she's going to do that.

725
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,160
And then each month there's just
somebody new.

726
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,160
We have Gussy's gut that'll be
coming in and then I believe

727
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:46,720
you're doing a you're doing
something with wolf with wolf,

728
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,320
yes, they're going to be coming
in in the new year in 2026.

729
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,200
So just to get different
viewpoints, you know, have

730
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,080
people learn different things
that they wouldn't necessarily

731
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,160
hear about, you know, in the
day-to-day life.

732
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,120
So that's what I like to bring
to the community.

733
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,320
Yeah, I like that.
Gussies Gut is one of my

734
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:14,040
favorites to talk to Rob.
He is because it's food like,

735
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,520
and that's what I do.
I'm like, OK, but so can we can

736
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640
we talk about what we can do
with food before we go anywhere

737
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,840
else?
Like, yeah, I have people ask me

738
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120
all the time, like what
supplement?

739
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,400
What supplement, what
supplement?

740
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,440
Which to me is just, it's like
this carryover from the

741
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,520
pharmaceutical mentality that
we've like has been driven into

742
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:40,720
us for the past hundred years or
whatever that X is wrong.

743
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480
So I need Y, right?
That's not.

744
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,440
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
Let's talk about the food and

745
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,960
let's talk about what we can
supplement with food before we

746
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,680
go.
And, and herbs fall into that

747
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,160
for me as well.
And Rob is very much like that.

748
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080
We had a really, really good
conversation.

749
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,520
I'm just going off on a tangent
again, probably a year and a

750
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,560
half ago now about probiotics.
And he was like, probiotics are

751
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,520
bullshit.
And I'm like, thank God somebody

752
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,800
else is is saying this.
And honestly, the only

753
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,760
probiotics I recommend that are
not food are the new green Juju

754
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,280
ones.
And that's because they are

755
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,800
food.
They're just extracted.

756
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,400
And I'm like, I just don't
recommend probiotics outside of

757
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,360
that.
What about you?

758
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Yeah, no.
And so it's just a rabbit hole.

759
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,280
It's a rabbit hole that is just
a concept.

760
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,640
You just blew so many people's
minds right now because what do

761
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,120
you mean?
Like it's a white powder that I

762
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,200
put on my dog's food maybe once
or twice a day, and you're

763
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,400
telling me it's food again?
It's just knowing what is in

764
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,640
your toolbox.
What what you know, you hear

765
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,080
something on the Internet, do
your homework, research it and

766
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,480
know where those resources are
coming from because there is so

767
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,720
much out there.
And I have this conversation

768
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,800
with my friends all the time.
I was like, we've been lied to

769
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,160
for so long.
And if you don't want to drink

770
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,880
the kool-aid anymore, you know,
you need to be open.

771
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,000
You need to be open to new ways
to do things to nourish your

772
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,880
body, nourish your dog's body.
And the other thing that I

773
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,680
learned, you know, recently with
my own dog is just because it's

774
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,560
a supplement, you still just
like food, need to take it slow,

775
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,840
introducing it slow because this
is the first time, you know,

776
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,960
they're seeing it, their bodies
seeing this new food probiotic

777
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,680
and you don't know how their
body is going to react.

778
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,160
They've never had such thing.
So, and now this just came to my

779
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,320
mind, detoxing.
When a dog goes from Kimmel to

780
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480
fresh food, their body does go
through a detox.

781
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,000
And that's scary to some people.
You know, the discharge from the

782
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,160
eyes, the access shedding, the
diarrhea because the body is

783
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,960
getting rid of it.
It's a sign, it's a signal.

784
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,360
It's beautiful, it's doing its
job and to help your dog get

785
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,880
through that to see them on the
other side is amazing.

786
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,440
And I encourage everybody to be
curious.

787
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,880
And that was the original name
kind of catch line for my

788
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,960
business was Curious Minds for
the healthy pet because it's you

789
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,360
have to be curious, you have to
wonder, you have to be open so.

790
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Yeah, yeah.
When that yeast die off, stops a

791
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,880
lot of people too.
They're like, no, this can't be

792
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,680
right.
Like you're handy.

793
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,480
Oh yeah.
It's going to get worse before

794
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,160
it gets better, I promise you.
And.

795
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Then that's what stops people
too.

796
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,520
And you know, being inside a
community and even having us to

797
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,120
guide you to hand hold you.
And that's what we want to do.

798
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,760
We want to hand hold you because
we want you to to see you get to

799
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,880
the other side and not stop
because of that scary, you know

800
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,920
these die off or goopy eyes.
Awesome.

801
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,720
Well, Amanda, thank you so much
for being here again.

802
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:32,480
People can find you at
caninegutsolutions.com and then

803
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,200
I will that also link to your
Instagram or is it just Canine

804
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Gut Solutions?
Canine Gut Solutions is my

805
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Instagram handle, but you'll be
able to find everything on my

806
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,760
website.
Awesome.

807
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,800
And it will also be LinkedIn,
the show notes, if you click on

808
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,960
the, what is it called, guest
profile through the show notes,

809
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,640
that will all be there as well.
So you can just click, click,

810
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520
click, click, click and go
straight to it.

811
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,320
So yeah, thank you so much for
being here, Amanda, I love what

812
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,440
you're doing.
Thank you so much for coming on

813
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,280
to talk to people about it
because I know like I said at

814
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,720
the very beginning of all of
this, it's new for a lot of

815
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:16,560
people to pay for services and
trust outside of their

816
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,000
veterinarian.
And again, like in no way

817
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,040
replacing veterinary care,
veterinary services, this is

818
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,400
different, but it is an
addition.

819
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,720
And I think people, people
definitely need to get used to

820
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,560
the fact that it is an addition
in addition to to veterinary

821
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,000
services, veterinary care, which
is so important.

822
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,320
In fact, if if your pet has not
had blood work done, please go

823
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,840
get their blood work done.
Love that by the way, make sure

824
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,720
you do that by the.
Way I know my boyfriend's cat is

825
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,000
like 8 or almost nine years old
and I was like, she I

826
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,040
transitioned her to wet food and
she's starting to eat some raw

827
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,840
food and she's like ravenous all
of a sudden and I'm like, oh

828
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,280
crap, let's go check her
thyroid.

829
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,600
And I was like, Hey, we're her,
her records.

830
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,400
And he's like, she's never been
to the vet.

831
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,960
Like, well, that's I mean I'm,
I'm, I'm good with that.

832
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,840
That's probably why she's so
healthy.

833
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,440
But but I have no baseline to go
off.

834
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,880
To the vet.
Yeah, no, no, it's OK.

835
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,440
It's OK.
Yeah.

836
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,240
So thank you again, Amanda.
Everybody check out Canine Gut

837
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:40,000
Solutions on Instagram,
caninegutsolutions.com and yeah,

838
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400
I'll see you guys next week.
Until then, please give your pet

839
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,600
some extra love from me and from
Amanda this week.

840
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,840
Thanks so much for being here,
Amanda.