245. Before You Buy That Supplement: Listening to the Animal in Front of You

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Welcome back pet parent.
Today is today's going to be

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just us talking today because I
woke up with something on my

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heart that I just, I've been
thinking about it all week and I

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said this morning when I woke
up, you know what?

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We're going to talk about it
because one of the things that I

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have hoped to do with this
podcast is to help educate pet

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parents, to help show pet
parents that there is another

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way outside of conventional
veterinary medicine, sometimes

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alongside conventional
veterinary medicine.

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I have tried to have as many
veterinarians on as I can to

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kind of show that no, I am
absolutely not against

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veterinarians.
But yes, Kim is confirming I am

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not against veterinarian, but
that is actually not the point

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of today's episode.
I have intended this podcast to

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be educational for myself as
much as everybody else.

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And what has been heavy on my
heart lately is that I know with

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the vast amount of information
that there is to be consumed

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that it is still really
overwhelming and really

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confusing.
And I never intended to be part

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of that problem.
Hey there, it's Jess.

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If you're new here, I'm a
certified professional canine

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nutritionist, raw nutrition
certified for dogs and cats, a

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holistic pet health coach, the
founder of Wild Wellness Pet,

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and the host of the Pet
Parenting Reset podcast that

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you're listening to right now,
where every pet deserves the

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dogs and cats.
If you've been feeling like

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there has to be something more,
something better, a better way

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to raise healthier pets, welcome
to the Pet Parenting Reset.

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I have intended this podcast to
be educational for myself as

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much as everybody else.
And what has been heavy on my

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heart lately is that I know with
the vast amount of information

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that there is to be consumed
that it is still really

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overwhelming and really
confusing.

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And I never intended to be part
of that problem.

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And so I want to.
Well, we're going to talk about

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a few things today.
And I realize that that is

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probably breaking.
That is probably breaking rule

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#1 we should only have like 1
singular focus when we're

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communicating.
But that's just not the case

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today.
So I know how confusing it can

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be because honestly, sometimes I
still get confused.

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Sometimes I still get
overwhelmed with just the sheer

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number of foods and supplements
and opinions that do not line

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up.
And I think it is good practice

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for me to have people on whose
opinions may not line up because

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then we get to see both sides of
the coin.

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Sometimes there are more than
two sides, but at least both

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sides of the coin.
And we get to make those

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decisions for ourselves as to
what we feel is going to be

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right for our individual animal
sitting in front of us right

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now.
And that's kind of the point of

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all of this, is to make the best
decisions we possibly can for

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the animal sitting in front of
us.

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And so to me, having more
information is power.

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Knowledge is power.
And it gives me a place to sit

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back and say, you know what?
I know this, know so many

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different things.
And I can put the pieces

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together and I can make my pets
life better.

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I can make my life better
because I I have taken the time

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to learn so much, just like you
are doing right now by listening

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to this podcast.
You're taking the time out of

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your busy day to educate
yourself on something and

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something more than maybe you
knew before, or maybe you're

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listening to something that is
reminding you of something you

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already knew, which is probably
what today's episode is all

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about.
And so it was never my intention

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to add to the overwhelm.
And I want to put this out into

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the universe and for you to
listen to, to hopefully help

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some people understand that yes,
there is a lot of information on

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this podcast.
And if you go back to the

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beginning, there is a a whole
load of information on this

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podcast and none of it is meant
to be overwhelming for you.

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And yes, every person, every
brand, every sales Rep, every

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whoever that comes on any
podcast has their own bias, a

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lot of times their own agenda.
And I think for the most part, a

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lot of the guests I have had on,
well, yes, they have a brand or

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they have a product that they
are talking about.

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Generally speaking, you know, we
try to keep the topic of

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conversation generalized around
what about that product is

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actually good for certain pets.
And so that we can then take

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that information and say, is
this or is this not going to be

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something that is going to
benefit my pet right now or

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maybe not right now, maybe in
the future?

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And all of that to say that I
understand that the landscape of

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food and treats and supplements
is overwhelming.

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And it is never my intention for
you to buy and try every single

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thing that we talked about on
this podcast.

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And I know that can be hard.
We wind up with these supplement

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graveyards, right?
And I have been there.

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I know what that is like, and I
know how hard it is to get out

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of it because you spent so much
money on all of it.

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It's even hard to throw away
when it hits that expiration

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date.
I know I've been there.

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So I want to acknowledge first
of all, that there is a

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possibility that I have added to
the overwhelming confusion and

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and that was never my intention.
And I hope that I have created a

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community where you know that
you can send Adm to me on

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Instagram or send a message
through my website if a pet

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parenting reset or if you're
ready to even book a one-on-one

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consultation with me and we can
clarify and pull back probably a

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lot of what you're currently
doing with your pet.

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That is it.
And I think the reason that this

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has been so heavy on my heart is
because that is one of the

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things that I tend to do a lot
with my one-on-one clients is

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actually looking at everything
that's being done and stripping

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it all the way and kind of going
back to the basics.

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And that's one of the things
that I have been trying to do in

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the recordings that I've been
doing lately is figuring out

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those basics again, right?
Water, clean, fresh water,

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light.
That's something that I'm

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starting to realize the
importance of as well.

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You know, our windows are
blocking a lot of the UV rays

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and sunscreen out.
All of the things like actually

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getting the full spectrum of
light is so important to our

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bodies, to our pets bodies,
clean, healthy soil to ground.

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And there's so many things that
we can do for free that are

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truly bringing us back to
nature, cleaning up our

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environment that I, I really
want and hope to, especially

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with my own like one-on-one
clients, kind of bring everybody

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back to basics and start from
there.

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Is that to say we would never
use a supplement?

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Absolutely not.
There are incredible supplements

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out there.
And and I do think that in some

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instances we do need to
supplement just because we live

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in a toxic world and our food
doesn't provide the nutrients

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that it should or that it used
to.

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And like there are so many, so
many things that yes, I do think

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we are ultimately going to wind
up supplementing.

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But I really wanted to put this
out to you, to anybody who might

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hear it, to the universe that it
is my intention to help people

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understand that we need to get
back to nature, that we need to

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get back to the basics.
And I'm saying this to myself as

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well.
This is not just for you, just

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for your benefit.
This is also for my benefit that

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bringing everything back to
basic foundational how are we

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supposed to live and harmonize
with nature, including what is a

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species appropriate diet for us
and for our pets.

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Those are two different things
and even somewhat different for

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our dogs and cats.
Dogs being facultative

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carnivores, cats being obligate
carnivores, we have to be even

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stricter with what we're feeding
our cats and getting back to how

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can we best harmonize with
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And yes, there are a lot of
freeways to do that.

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And in some instances, if we're
not able to do that, there are

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some great devices and
supplements that are going to

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help us kind of bring that back
without bringing that back.

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If that's, I don't know, that
makes sense in my head.

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So, and maybe also I have been
building at Wild Wellness Pet

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dot com.
I have been building an

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apothecary that is very strict.
Like I am not putting things

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there that I would not give my
own pets.

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And the whole goal to be get
like the reason that I started

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this, my goal was to provide
like as much as I can, a one

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stop shop for the things that
I'm recommending to my

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one-on-one clients.
Because you know what, you've,

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you know, you're going to 10
different places to get 10

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different things because nobody
has it all.

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And so that's been my goal all
along.

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And then I'm realizing as I'm
building this that, well, one,

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I'm hopeful that it can help
people outside of my one-on-one

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clients understand that only
things that I actually would

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give my own pets are going to be
in this store.

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And it's not done yet, by the
way, if you go there right now,

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I am slowly adding products
there.

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But it true truly is something
that I think we all struggle

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with, with shiny object syndrome
with, you know, Oh my gosh, the

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the testimonials that this
company is putting out are

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amazing.
And I want that for my pets too.

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Being able to take in all of
this information and actually

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step back and say that's
amazing.

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Will it actually benefit my
animal right now today?

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Sometimes that answer is yes and
sometimes that answer might be

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no.
And so that has just been

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really, really heavy on my heart
that I wanted to get out and

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across to you today because I
understand that overwhelm

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because I still get it
sometimes.

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And I have been getting it
building out the online store

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for you and wanting to make sure
that I am not putting products

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out just because the product
exists.

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Like that's not the goal.
The goal is to create an

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environment where if you find
this, you know, if you find a

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product on my website, you know
that I think it's the best of

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the best.
But also I want you to ask

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yourself, is this actually
something that's going to

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benefit my pet or am I just
buying something shiny and

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pretty because of it could help
some pet?

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Is it going to help your pet?
So that's kind of one of one of

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the things I really wanted to
talk to you about is just having

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that discernment for Yeah, it's
an amazing product.

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Is it going to be amazing for
your animal?

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And that answer might be yes.
And that answer might be no.

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And also, is it the best use of
your funds?

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Because that's the reality we
live in today.

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I often have people asking me,
you know, saying I, I have, I

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have limited resources and I
want to use them to the best of

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my ability to help my pet the
best I can.

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And I just had a conversation
with somebody on DMS the other

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day who was like, I think I want
to buy your test.

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Well, OK, let's talk more about
this because you're telling me

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that your resources are running
thin.

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You've spent so much money at
the veterinarian's office.

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As much as I would love to sell
you a test and I, you know, I

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know there's benefit to it.
Is it the right thing for you

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right now?
Maybe, maybe not, right?

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That's that's something that I
want you to think about before

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you buy anything else.
We live in such a consumer

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driven society and I am right
there with everybody else.

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I am just as guilty as everybody
else.

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I am actively trying to change
that about myself because I have

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too many things.
I know I have too many things.

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I don't need all these things.
And so many of the things I buy.

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I don't eat for my pets even.
I don't even use.

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I say thank you, no thank you to
so many brands offering to send

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me things because I know I'm not
going to use it.

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And I didn't used to be that
way.

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I used to be like, yeah, I'd
love to check it out.

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And I'm not like that anymore
because I just, I can't use it

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all and I want to make sure that
whatever I'm putting in and on

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my pets bodies is actually
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benefit them and not because it
was some shiny new object in

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front of me.
So as a business owner, this may

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be the worst thing I could say
to you.

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I don't know, but it's the
truth.

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It is.
It is my truth that it is not my

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intention to just put products
out there and say buy them, buy

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them, buy them.
It is I'm trying to be very

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intentional about building this
website, about building the

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storefront, about educating as
many people as I can to buy what

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is you feel is going to be best
for your pet based on the

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information you have?
If I can provide you information

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on why that might or might not,
maybe another product would be

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better for your animal.
I would love to do that because

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I hate when we try a product.
It wasn't the right product for

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our animal at that time.
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good product.
That may not be the case.

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It may be an amazing product and
it may not have been what your

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pet needed at that time.
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traditional Chinese medicine,
traditional Chinese veterinary

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medicine, the more I am
realizing that there are so many

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subtle nuances that most of us
are not taking into account.

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For example, as much as I love
totonics and I recommend it to a

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lot of people, it is venison and
blood, which means it is warm on

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the energetic scale and if you
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that may not be best for your
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things ever.
It is damp and it is cooling.

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the best thing for them.
So that is true of so many

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things, so many things.
And we could go on and on and on

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about probiotics, but I actually
think I'm going to bring a guest

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on to talk to you about
probiotics because I am no

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longer as enamored with them as
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There are very few that I would
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human or otherwise, needs them

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all the time, every day.
I think we need to be more

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discerning with a lot of the
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and giving to our pets.
So that is kind of my thank you

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for coming to my Ted Talk today.
And to make this not all about

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me, I decided that what I'm
going to do for the rest of

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today's episode is to give you a
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Kim says yes.
A clip from a recent recording

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that I did for Pet Health
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This is not the full episode
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were talking to Mary Beth from
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We were just talking about her
dog and kind of discussing.

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I was very hesitant at first to
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professional or otherwise, but
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her pup, in different ways from
what she had been thinking in

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the past.
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very relevant to a lot of people
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the marketing that we have been
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food and never change it.
And, you know, we are afraid of

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GI distress.
And you know what, In some

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cases, yes.
And in some cases, you know, we

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have to remember that we don't
go to the doctor every time we

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have diarrhea.
Sometimes the body just needs to

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get something out that shouldn't
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upset tummy and other times it

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is more serious.
Exactly.

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Kim says.
So with that, I'm going to.

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So with that, I'm going to give
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clip from the episode from Pet
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You'll be able to find the full
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and listen to it on the stream
for Pet Health Junkies.

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And yeah, with that, I'm going
to go ahead and sign off, give

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you the rest of that episode and
say to give your pets an extra

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love for me this week.
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And I have a another question
and then I'll shut up and let

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Pam and Jim because say
something.

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But what did you?
And you don't have to talk about

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if you don't want to, but did
you change Teddy's diet along

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the way?
Well, yeah, so I never really

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fed him much of much kibble.
It was always rice and not table

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scraps.
It was chicken.

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It was ground chicken.
And Teddy would eat anything.

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Unfortunately, my my sweet
little cubby is allergic to a

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lot, so we're very, very, very
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So we're pretty much ground
Turkey, blueberries in the

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morning, lentils or rice.
And then at night the same thing

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but with carrots or peas.
I, you know, I was giving them

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lamb salmon.
We had them tested twice and

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he's allergic to lamb and
salmon, if you can believe that.

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He's allergic to sweet potatoes.
I've never met a dog that's

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allergic to so much.
So I'm not against kibble

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because I was giving Teddy or
both Teddy and Cubby a little

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bit of kibble.
Just round up just for extra

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vitamins, especially for Cubby
because he is so limited in what

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he can get.
But if you have any advice, and

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I know that you have your own
health food store, pet store,

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I'd love to know.
Yes, yes, I love it.

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Yeah.
I was going to say I'm happy to.

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I'm happy to help.
I deal with dogs that have tons

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of food sensitivities all the
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Really.
And, and yeah, just helping with

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the gut permeability and
getting, getting that back on

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track.
So, yeah.

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But it, it is interesting how
many dogs today have tons of

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food sensitivities because we
should be able, and we talk

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about this all the time.
You know, we don't get sick when

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we change.
If we eat fish one night and

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beef the next night, we don't
get sick.

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Why our dog shouldn't either.
So it's, it's, yeah.

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We that's one of the, like, the
biggest myths that the pet food

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industry has been very
successful at telling consumers

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is, is find a food that works
and don't ever change it.

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And that's like the worst thing
we can do.

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Yeah.
I agree.

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For our pets, but I love the
ingredients that you're using.

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I know all like the turmeric,
the cinnamon, the ginger, these

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are in Chinese medicine.
These are all also resolving

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stagnation, which is it is very
interesting for I mean a lot of

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animals, but certainly cancer.
Any, anything phlegm, any, any

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nodules, any lipomas, any like
we that these are, this is

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stagnation in the body.
We have to move the lymph.

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We have to move things through
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otherwise everything is just
staying right there in the body.

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Like our toxins are building up
and it it's it's really damaging

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to us, to our pets.
And so, yeah, I'm just, I'll

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just throw that in there, but
I'm curious, Pam.

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The only thing that I know and I
have not tried this, but I

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learned it from somebody who has
been a pet health coach for 30

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some odd years before anybody
ever even thought about pet

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health coaching.
And she's very holistic and and

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knows so much about Chinese
medicine.

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And she says that anytime she
has to give cats anything that

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they otherwise would not eat or
touch powders, she will usually

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put it in ghee.
And I'm wondering, Pam, if you

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have any suggestions since you
are our resident cat expert.

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Well, it is that's that's a very
good idea.

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Like butter, ghee cream.
Yeah.

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It depends on the kind of diet
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Like if you're, if you're fixing
a bowl of if you're warming up a

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bowl of raw food and it's just,
you know, a big old mixture,

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like we have 6 so we're two big
bowls and I can pour supplements

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in there good size amount from
the scoops and mix them all in

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and they don't know it's there.
So I would, you know, depends on

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what they're eating.
And I would just start with a

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very tiny amount and it sardine
juice, you know, tuna are, you

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know, something super stinky
that cats really like.

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And every cat can be different.
So I would say to the people

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that have tried it with their
cats and weren't successful, I

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would say try a different
method.

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I would, you know, try the tuna
water, try the sardine juice,

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try, try literally a pinch and
mix it into their entire food.

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And, and it's not overwhelming,
you know, as a full dose or

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whatever, just to kind of
introduce it, kind of sneak it

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in there and introduce it and
then get them used to that.

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And it might, they might, they
may or may not even sense the

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taste of it.
After a while, right?

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You know what I mean?
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That's a good idea.
Increase.

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I mean, that's what a lot of
people have to do when it comes

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to introducing supplements to
cats because cats are neophobic.

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They don't like new things.
So it could be just an energetic

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block to something different and
new that they're not familiar

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with.
But if you can get them to to if

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you can mask it and hide it in
food in very tiny pinches to

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start with, then they probably,
you could slowly increase that.

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I mean, they're not even going
to be phased because they get

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used to it as they go.
So that would be.

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Suggestion.
That's.

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A great idea.
Yeah, that's great.

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Yep.
Especially in the stinky sardine

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or tuna, they're not going to
notice it.

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Yeah.
You know, mix it in really good

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and I think so many times
people, people start with the

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full dose if they have a cat
that's super picky, you know,

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and it's not that the cat's
necessarily picky.

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It's their survival instinct,
trying new things because

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they're not sure if it's safe.
So it's it's more of an

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instinctual self preservation
mode, I guess, if you will, you

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know, super.
They get imprinted on their feet

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when you're Yeah.
So if that's another reason why

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it's so important to rotate and
mix the diets, because some cats

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or even dogs can just get so
hyper focused on one thing and

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then when you try to change
that, they're very super

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resistant.
So yeah, that would be my

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suggestion.
I love that idea and I feel

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terrible that I only feed cubby
a certain, you know, the ground

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Turkey.
But I've tried everything.

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I've tried the lamb, I've tried
the salmon.

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The only thing I haven't tried
yet is whitefish because I'm not

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sure where to get it really.
But there's we can't do pork.

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You can't even do beef.
But then when I got I did a

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second allergy test, they did
say salmon meal but not salmon.

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So I don't, I know what salmon
meal is, but I don't know if I

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want to do that because the
first one said he was allergic.

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I did two different tests.
So what would you all suggest

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with that you're?
Going to have to test probably

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every six months when you
really.

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Yeah.
And just because I think I want

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to throw this out there for you,
but also our listeners, just

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because there's one test that
says that Teddy is allergic to

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ABCD or or in this case Cubby is
allergic to ABCDEF, that does

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not mean that that is forever
and that the biggest mistakes

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that people.
Well.

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That we hear.
Yeah, because there there is a

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big difference in an allergy and
a sensitivity.

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And so an allergy test is
something that you're going to

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do through your veterinarian.
It's usually a blood test and

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that very, very, very few true
allergies actually exist in

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animals.
But it's a sensitivity

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absolutely will change.
And this is actually something

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that I'm super, super passionate
about because Bioenergetics is

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technology and it's relatively
new.

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Most veterinarians don't believe
in it or trust it.

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And I don't necessarily fault
them for it because it's

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technology and every company has
different technology.

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So you're going to get different
results from each company.

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So I've vetted a bunch.
I have vetted a bunch of them.

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None of them are 100%.
But again, we're dealing with

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energetic sensitivities and not
allergies.

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They change a lot.
And I, I actually, the one I

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use, I not only look at food and
environmental sensitivities, but

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nutritional imbalances, hormonal
imbalances and organ system

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stressors.
So I use a lot of Chinese

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medicine in the interpretation
of the, of the testing, but it

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is, it's, it's interesting.
We do have to work on gut and

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immune health, and those
sensitivities will diminish over

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00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,120
time.
I love that.

450
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Yeah, that's an important thing
to remember because some people

451
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,040
forget to go back and retest
after they've done 6 to 8 months

452
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,000
worth of gut health work and
working on gut lining and and

453
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,720
all that.
And then you can go back and you

454
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,520
can retest.
But if you fix the if, if you've

455
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,800
plugged all the holes in the gut
and you've got all the

456
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,000
inflammation, then the body
shouldn't continue to be

457
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,080
reactive to something.
So.

458
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040
Give it some time and then go
back and check, you know, and

459
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,280
then start reintroducing after
four to six months, you know,

460
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080
and tiny mounts and see how they
do.

461
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040
That's a great idea.
I have been trying to

462
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,520
reintroduce a little bit.
He's got such a sensitive

463
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,480
stomach and so I, I, but again,
I think I, it is probably a good

464
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,800
idea to get him tested again
just to see.

465
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200
And he's getting older, so I'm
sure as it gets older that

466
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,240
changes.
I mean, we found out a couple

467
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,680
years ago he has a thyroid
issue.

468
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,440
You might want.
To talk to Jessica offline it

469
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,440
really I think that you would
she's a wealth of knowledge and

470
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,760
can help you.
And you know, one of two things

471
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
I'm so glad that the girls
brought up gut health, because

472
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,920
it has to be gut 1st and and
nutrition is is key.

473
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Keeping up toxins from the
environment or for flea, tick

474
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,880
and heartworm, you know, heavy
metals and shots.

475
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
I mean all of those create toxic
loads.

476
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,040
You have to support the critical
organs that are, you know,

477
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,040
they're, they receive this
barrage of toxins every day.

478
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,640
What are we doing to support,
you know, the body?

479
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,400
But going back to the gut, you
know, that would be, we often

480
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,560
times, I mean, and by often
times, I mean like almost always

481
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,400
there's no discussion about gut
health where, you know, pet

482
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,040
parents are being told, let's do
this, you know, $500 to $1000

483
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440
allergy test.
And again, no pork, no beef, no

484
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,560
chicken.
And, and, but we're putting band

485
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,280
aids on one things as opposed to
going really to the crux of the

486
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,680
matter and the source of the
matter.

487
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,840
And that's where, you know,
somebody like these two ladies

488
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,160
can help.
And you know, we help in my

489
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,680
store, but we don't do it to the
level that they do.

490
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,120
We often refer out, you know,
two people like Jessica and Pam

491
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360
and.
Wonderful.

492
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Just, but testing is critical
and it doesn't have to be super

493
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,240
expensive, you know, to
sensitivity test.

494
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,560
There are a lot of them and and
they're not cost prohibitive

495
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120
when you compare what you're
paying in clinic.

496
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,640
And then, but starting with the
gut is huge.

497
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,200
So just personally advice for
you, Mary Beth, is, you know, if

498
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,880
we're not doing something to
address Cubby's gut health, I

499
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,880
would 100% tell you to visit
that.

500
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
The I mean, the only thing that
I'm doing is the probiotic, of

501
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,360
course, and then he's.
And those are not all created

502
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720
equal.
I agree with you 100% because I

503
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,120
actually think he itches more
when he's on it so I'll stop it

504
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,920
and I'll try another one.
I mean I really haven't tried

505
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,160
another one.
Then I was doing the yogurt but

506
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,400
then when I got the the
sensitivity test back or the

507
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840
allergy test said he's allergic
to Greek yogurt.

508
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,600
I.
Met a loss none of the Greek

509
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
yogurt.
No, really.

510
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880
I mean, I I like it, but I'm
very.

511
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,240
There's better.
On which one to use, I mean,

512
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880
there's one that I will buy at
the health food store and I

513
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,480
don't use it often.
There are a lot of hidden sugars

514
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,840
and yogurts.
Agreed.

515
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
And when you're talking about
Korean probiotics, you want

516
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,080
multiple strains of bacteria and
you.

517
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,640
And just like when you're
talking about feeding an

518
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,960
appropriate diet, you know,
complete and balanced, you're

519
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480
talking about rotational
feeding.

520
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,280
So we don't eat chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken,

521
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680
chicken, chicken.
I mean, I bet if we did one day

522
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,040
we're going to be probably
sensitive to chicken.

523
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,200
But with, you know, going back
to pre and probiotics and and

524
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,560
the different strains, it's just
there's so many products on the

525
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,760
market that we even encourage
rotation there as well.

526
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
There's just not enough in
yogurt to make a significant

527
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
difference if you ask my
opinion.

528
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,199
I.
Agree, better things out there.

529
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,320
It's not going to I guess let me
say this, and it's not going to

530
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,800
fix the problem.
Right, right.

531
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Yeah.
But I'd love to get a pick your

532
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,679
brain about which probiotic I
should try next, because I, I

533
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,199
think he has a little
sensitivity to the one because

534
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,239
whenever I put him on it, he'll
itch and I take him off for a

535
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,600
couple days, the itch goes away.
And I've tried a couple.

536
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,400
So I just don't know where to go
with that either.

537
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,120
I think for, you know,
listeners, you have to look at

538
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000
the ingredients and a lot of
products on the market have

539
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,040
fillers and it.
Right.

540
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,440
Yeah.
And here's a shocker.

541
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,240
Maybe he doesn't need a
probiotic.

542
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,400
I was going to say that.
So to be honest with you, I

543
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960
haven't had him on one in two
weeks and he hasn't been itching

544
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,880
so.
Maybe.

545
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,160
That's.
Good.

546
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,680
We can overdo things and create
SIBO if we're using the wrong

547
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,440
stuff.
So.

548
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,800
OK, yeah, so we're good to know.
Don't freak out.

549
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,840
That or worry that you're not
giving one.

550
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Just if his body is not reacting
now, then I think you're

551
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,920
probably better off.
Good.

552
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,800
Just good to know.
Very good to know.

553
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,240
Yeah.
Yeah, you, you ladies are a

554
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,040
wealth of information, that's
for sure.

555
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Well, more pets have taught us a
lot.

556
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,040
It's true.
It's very.

557
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
True for better for worse,
right?

558
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,840
So absolutely, absolutely all.
Done a lot of trial and error in

559
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,280
our time.
Yeah, sure, sure, absolutely.

560
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,240
And some things work, some
things don't.

561
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,080
So and you know, going back to
the all natural, I mean, I'm

562
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,400
absolutely all for all natural
options and it works with the

563
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,920
body better.
It just does, it works with the

564
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,640
body's healing processes.
And I'm not saying I'm not a

565
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,680
pharmacy.
I prefer to do natural and

566
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640
pharmaceutical, but there's
sometimes when you have to do

567
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,120
pharmaceutical and I understand
that, but why start with that?

568
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,240
Why that's that's my question
for any, any pet owner who's

569
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,840
faced with that.
So there's no side effects to

570
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320
anything natural.
Exactly.

571
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,800
Exactly.
So well, I, I love the

572
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,240
conversation.
Thank you, Mary Beth, for being

573
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,840
here with us today.
I think turmeric is definitely

574
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,800
underrated.
You know, I think a lot of food

575
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
I think is underrated in
general.

576
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:51,600
And so anytime we can talk about
it, then I think, you know, the

577
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,280
better.
Just reminding people like we,

578
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,400
we have shiny object syndrome
where, you know, there's a new

579
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040
supplement that this brand put
out and there's a new supplement

580
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,200
that this brand put out and
there's a new food that that

581
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,120
brand put out.
And we all want to try all these

582
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,880
things because they're new and
shiny and wonderful.

583
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,960
But the the the things that
nature provides us like that

584
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,560
often is is just going to be the
best.

585
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,160
I agree 100%. 100%, yeah.
Thank you so much for sharing

586
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,400
your product.
I can't wait to get some and try

587
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,320
it.
Please, yeah, send me if you can

588
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,400
send me your address.
Anybody would like to try it?

589
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480
If you want to try it, your cat
Pam, try it in the salmon or the

590
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,320
tuna oil.
Let me know.

591
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400
I'd love it so.
Yeah, that would that would be a

592
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680
great follow up to see if if she
can get a cat.

593
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,440
It.
Would be.

594
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,760
It really would be.
I'd love it.

595
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,880
So awesome, awesome.
Well guys, check out Teddy's

596
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,520
Turmeric Tamer and I'm sure any
of us that that try it will post

597
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
about it as well.
I'd love to hear your comments

598
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,680
and feedback on it or if you
have tried it.

599
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,360
That's amazing.
Let us know.

600
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Thank you so much for being here
with us today to talk about it.

601
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,120
And thank you, Mary Beth, for
joining us and for, you know, 1

602
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,240
And then just taking a step back
and saying, no, I can help my

603
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,840
dog when my veterinarian isn't
going to.

604
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,680
And for then taking that a step
further and saying this can help

605
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,000
other dogs as well.
So thank you so much.

606
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:31,960
For that, thank you.
Thank you.

607
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,720
Thank you.
So much thank you.

608
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Thank you ladies.
Thank you.

609
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Awesome.
Y'all have a great rest of your

610
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,880
day guys.
Thank you so much for listening.

611
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,320
Please give your pets some extra
love from all of us today and we

612
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,520
will talk to you next time.