Canine Cancer Awareness, Part 2 on The Weekly Pet Roundup

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But it's such a big topic.
And hi, Kara.

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Hi everybody on Facebook and
YouTube.

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Welcome to the weekly Pet
Roundup.

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Welcome, welcome.
So yes, we are continuing the

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talk from last week about canine
cancer awareness wrapping,

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wrapping up the month because it
was canine cancer for awareness

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month in November.
And I don't know, do you want to

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do like a recap of last week and
then jump into what we didn't

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get to or how do you I don't
know.

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Yeah.
Well, last week we mostly talked

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about how lifestyle impacts the
risk factors, right.

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So we talked about how, yes,
genetics plays a part, but if we

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do some really if we take some
steps, we can reduce our pets

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risk.
So really not putting onus on

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you in the sense that if you've
had a pet with cancer, it's all

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your fault.
That's not what we're saying.

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But as we know more and as pet
cancer diagnosis rates rise, we

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are now learning how much of our
lifestyle impacts their risks

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factors.
So like we talked about

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environmental risks inside and
outside the home.

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We talked about obesity and how
it plays a huge role in lifting,

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like raising your pets risk.
We talked about just like the

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lack of exercise, how that can
also impact your pets immune

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system.
We talked about a lot of things

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that really were, you know,
important for us to kind of

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maybe make one or two a
priority.

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Yeah, So Diane Echo says I've
had two cats die with cancer

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since January 2022.
I don't use perfumes, no smoke,

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no air fresheners.
So those are some of the things

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that we talked about.
And yes, I I agree with you.

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Like I haven't used any of those
in a long, long time.

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But it's like we can only
control so much of what our pets

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are exposed to.
So what we talked about was the

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things that we can control
second and third hand smoke.

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You don't know what third hand
smoke is.

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That was an interesting one for
me when I became a parent

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because like, even if somebody's
not smoking, but there's like a

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car where somebody smoked at
some point, that's third hand

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smoke.
So it's not like you're not

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smoking, nobody smoking next to
you.

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But the, the, the chemicals are
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upholstery you're sitting on or
in the vehicle you're riding in.

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So third hand smoke, those
things really do impact your

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exposure, right?
Like, I mean, and it's really

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sucks because we can control if
we're at the airport, you know,

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waiting for somebody to pick us
up, somebody smoking, we can

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move away from them.
But like if we get in like a

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hotel room where they used to
smoke, even if you don't smell

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it, but you're still being
exposed to these things.

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So that's what third hand smoke
is.

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But also perfumes, dyes, things
like that.

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Those are only part of the
equation.

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So there are also medications
that we talked about that could

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that have like, you know, they
have like the potential side

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effect in studies in rats, this
accelerated growth XYZ.

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So keeping our pets healthy is a
really good way like an off of

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medications for chronic
illnesses is a really good way

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to reduce their risk.
And of course, because Jessica

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is a nutritionist for dogs and
cats, she has, that's what she

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does.
She talked about the importance

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of food.
And that's kind of what we're

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doing now is we're discussing
again, diet and its impact, but

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also how the body reacts to what
we feed it.

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So I don't believe you take over
from here.

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Well, yeah, we did.
We talked about so many things

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and so many other things popped
into my head as you were like

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running down the list of things
that we talked about because

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like we could go in so many
different tangents and it is

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hard.
Like I, I share, I don't know if

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I shared this reel on my
Instagram or not, but I remember

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I know I sent it to a friend of
mine and it was like, I think I

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did share it.
It was kind of, you know, just

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sarcastically this guy on on a
health podcast.

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So he was a guest on a health
podcast.

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So it was kind of sarcastic in
his like approach, but he was

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like, there's literally
everything around us is killing

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us.
And we are so overwhelmed with

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the learning, with that doing,
with the trying to put

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everything into place that we
are learning because every time

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we turn around, there is
something else that's killing

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us.
And I mean, that's just a sad

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reality of our world today.
And hopefully, hopefully, you

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know, with enough people waking
up to that fact, we can start to

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change that because it is
consumer demand, All of it is

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consumer demand.
And if we stop by,

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interestingly, I, I just saw
another TikTok earlier today and

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it was kind of these two women.
And it was, they were, you know,

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a pre like memorized speech
where they were going back and

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forth and talking about.
But they said that studies have

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shown that if women stop buying
cosmetic products, the entire

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economy would collapse.
Hey, Bronwyn.

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Hi Bronwyn, OMG if women stopped
buying.

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Cosmetic cosmetics.
So like lotions and skin care

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and makeup, you know, perfumes
and like all of it, even the

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toxic, you know, we're putting
toxic chemicals inside of us

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when we are are menstruate.
You know what I mean?

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Like all of the things.
And if we just step up, the

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economy would very likely
collapse because it's such a big

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industry and we are sold as
women.

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And I think this is an important
conversation to have around even

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though we're talking about pet
cancer, there is so much of an

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overlap.
And even, and I will say this

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going in, I have even talked to
pet parent clients of mine like

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who are interested in getting
nitty gritty.

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I'm talking to them about the
lotions that they're putting on

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the are you on like a cream
hormone replacement therapy?

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Because if that transfers and
gets on to your pet.

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So like we can get really nitty
gritty and it all matters.

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And but women we are marketed to
and this is they're marketing to

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us in the pet industry as well.
Make no doubt about it, our pets

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are not, not the ones looking at
the food dyes on the kibble bag

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and, and saying, yes, that's
what I want you to buy for me,

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right?
So women are the ones that are

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being marketed to for all of the
cosmetics, for all of it.

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We're constantly being told that
we're not enough, that we're not

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pretty enough, that we're not
smart enough, that our eyelashes

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are not long enough, that our
cheeks aren't Bony enough, that

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our lips aren't full enough,
that are, I mean, literally

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everything.
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difference if we just stand up
and say, no, I am enough and

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it's OK.
And then you don't have to buy

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all these things.
And then you're not bringing all

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of these toxins into your home.
And I got on a tangent there,

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but.
It is.

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Wow, no, Oh, no, it's true.
And actually Bronwyn is saying

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if your pets are being diagnosed
with cancer, we need to be

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looking at you too.
Like, yes, if there is cancer in

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our home, anybody we need to
consider.

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And of course, like, there's no
way to know what started that

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process in our bodies, right?
Like there is no way to

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pinpoint, but there is an
opportunity there to kind of

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start looking at it a little bit
more carefully at what we're

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being exposed to, what is
happening in our home that may

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be putting us at risk too.
So yes, Dianco says my cat, my

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first cat had bowel cancer and
my second had a mass in the

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liver, a sarcoma.
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organs that is most taxed on all
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our pets, just everybody.
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organ.
And if all we're doing is taking

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on, you know, toxins, whether in
our food and our medications, of

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course our liver is going to
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Guessing from fire retardant
furniture.

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Yes, like I learned that so much
when I was when I became a mom.

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And I'm I'm shopping for car
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And did you know that car seats
are like doused in fire

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retardant furniture in in like
that chemical by the time that

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the car seat is enveloped in
flames, your child is gone.

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So really we need to be asking
ourselves like, did that car

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seat really need that?
Because there's no way that

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that's going to help my child.
But it is exposing them every

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single time I put them in that
car seat to chemicals that could

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that are known endocrine
disruptors and potential

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carcinogens.
So I went with a brand that did

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not have that because it's not
required.

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Somebody just used it as a
marketing ploy sometime in the

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past and it just kind of caught
on in the industry And it's just

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there.
And like it's a fire retardant

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furniture.
Like, I mean, if I'm sitting in

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in my furniture and I see that
there's a fire, by the time that

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the fire retardant on my couch
helps me, I'm, I'm not doused in

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fire retardant, right?
So like it protects the couch,

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but not me.
So what's the point?

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I mean, it doesn't make any
sense, but we keep using these

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things just like the pajamas
that they like baby pajamas.

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And now they have to in the, I
think it was the 1970s that

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they, because people were
falling asleep with their

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cigarettes and their babies and
babies were getting burned.

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So they started putting fire
retardant on pajamas for a

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certain age.
I can't remember what age it

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goes up to, but infants mostly.
And so now when I buy pajamas, I

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look for the label that says
does not have fire retardant on

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it because I have to look for
what it doesn't have because the

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industry standard is the fire
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And when you don't know, now
you're thinking, oh, oh, this is

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dangerous because it doesn't
have fire retardant.

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When you're not thinking, like
by the time that my kid is

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enveloped in like engulfed in
flames, like the pyjamas not

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doing anything.
Yeah, yes.

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So, and that's probably a good
place to start.

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So we talked a lot about the
statistics and all of the things

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going wrong in the environment
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So I think this week maybe, I
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what's going wrong, but kind of
in a prevention aspect of of how

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we can be more preventative in
our everyday lives.

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So if you start one of the
things you just said, you're

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looking for what's not in there.
And that is something that we

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all have to retrain ourselves to
do with literally everything

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we're buying.
And one of the biggest things

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that I think of outside of food,
because ideally I don't want any

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synthetics in my food.
And we can talk about that in a

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minute.
But with our supplements, there

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are so many supplements on the
market, not just for humans, but

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for pets.
So if we just stick with pets

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that I think the pet industry is
even worse than the human

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industry in a lot of cases,
certainly in food.

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And so we need to be not just
looking at, OK, what are the

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active ingredients?
Are these things in alignment

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with what I actually am buying
the supplement for?

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But we need to look at those
inactive ingredients and we also

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need to be paying attention to,
especially with things like

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bioaccumulators, the certificate
of analysis showing that it, it

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isn't loaded with heavy metals,
it isn't toxic, It it doesn't

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have what depends on on the
product, but we don't want to

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see a lot of fillers.
There's no, no need for them.

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You're buying, you're paying for
fillers.

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So I'm sorry I'm I'm blurry as
what people are saying.

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It's probably probably my
Internet because I've been

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having some problems with
Internet today, so I apologize.

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Same here.
So same here.

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I think it's all of Texas.
We're all like having issues.

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With our Internet, well, Mercury
went retrograde today, so.

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It's going retrograde right now.
Like, literally right now.

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Like right now, today going
retrograde.

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So we do need to be paying
paying as much attention to what

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is not in the products as what
is in the product.

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So for example, if I'm looking
at a product because I don't

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know, I'm looking for joint
support, so I'm looking for like

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collagen and chondroitin.
It may be some, you know, green

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lip muscle that would be
wonderful.

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Those are all wonderful things.
But look at all the fillers,

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look at all the inactive
ingredients, like why do I

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certainly don't want to see like
what pulp?

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I don't want to see a lot of
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Like why you're paying for that?
So we can be a lot more picky

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about the type of product we're
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We can also use food in a lot of
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So you're looking for joint
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I mentioned green lip mussels,
bone broth and green lip

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mussels.
Put those together, you've got

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amazing joint support in that.
I'm hearing myself echoing.

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So I don't know if anybody else
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I just am throwing that out
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And then we started talking a
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Well before I, before I jump
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our vets not speak more about
our lymphatic system in regards

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to pet cancers?
I don't know.

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I think our lymphatic system is
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as well.
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we do talk about with detoxing
because we don't want to detox

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if our drainage pathways aren't
open, we can cause more problems

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than what we originally started
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And I think that is certainly
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cancer protocol is detoxing.
And so we do want our, I mean,

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we have what are the five
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We've got the skin, the lung.
I was, I don't even remember all

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of the five detox pathways off
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The skin, the lungs, the, I
don't know, urine.

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They're they're in urine.
Right.

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Would it be urine?
They're in my head or somewhere.

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The colon, the.
Let me.

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I know that for women, really
women and for for any moms,

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whether whatever mammal a detox
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and our or mammary glands too.
So like we're detoxing into

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these babies, which is terrible.
Oh, Oh, absolutely.

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OK, So liver.
Oh, my Internet is so slow.

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I can look it up.
Liver, kidneys, skin, lungs.

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Yeah.
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The bladder, well the kidneys is
the is the the urine OK?

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And how about the digestive?
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telling me yeah, so the GI
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So all of that and I for me
personally, we may not see it in

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the same way with our pets, but
like for me personally, I, I

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notice it when like I take my
socks off and I have a ring, you

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know, around my skin like this
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I'm like, crap, I need to work
on my lymphatic.

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Lymphatic Drainage.
Yeah, for sure.

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But yeah, it is like so
acupuncture, massage maybe

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depending if your pet has
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careful with this.
Sometimes we can use pulsed

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electromagnetic frequency,
sometimes we can't, depending on

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the type of cancer.
Did I say massage massages?

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That's good.
Glutathione, which we can get

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is, you know, we can make if
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So again, going back to diet,
our diet is so important.

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And we talked a little bit about
like the last week about how

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sadly there's like this
asterisks around our food

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because we do feel so very
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organic, if we are able to eat
pasture raised.

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But those are actually really,
really important for any chronic

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disease state, cancer included,
because it can often be like

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that linchpin, that one thing
that makes the difference that

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you've done all these things.
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that like make or breaks your
protocol.

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But fasting is where we left off
last week.

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And that is such a big topic,
but it is also really, really

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beneficial and not only fasting.
So we were talking about putting

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our bodies in a state of
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Oh.
Bronwyn said.

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OK.
Liver, skin, gut, kidney, lung,

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colon.
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There we go. 2345 of it. 6.
I thought it was 5 at six.

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So Doctor Tandra Pope was
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Yes, ketogenic diets are
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she likes to pulse between
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diets.
And I think most of us who have

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done any extensive studying on
ketogenic diets have found at

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some point in time that like
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ketogenic diet may not be as
beneficial as we once thought.

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So pulsing and rotating between
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one, sometimes higher fat, but
at least a one to one ketogenic

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diet and then a higher protein
diet can be beneficial.

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Would you mind explaining the
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high protein please?
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So a ketogenic diet is going to
be at least a one to one ratio

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in the calorie content of
protein and fat.

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There is protein is my brain is
malfunctioning 4 calories per

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something I'm trying to remember
the measurement now I sound

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horrible.
I should know this off the top

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of my head. 4 calories per, I
don't know, maybe gram.

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I'm going to go with gram and
then I'm going to look it up and

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feel dumb.
Of food of protein, 4 calories,

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9 grams or I'm sorry, 9 calories
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So you're close to like 50% like
however much protein you're

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eating, you're like 50% roughly
of the amount of protein you're

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eating in fat.
So it's a pretty high fat diet.

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High fat, OK.
But sometimes, and some people,

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some ketogenic diets will go
above that greater than a one to

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one.
It can, it really can vary.

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And this is where we talk about,
you know, individualization is

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so important and knowing your
dog and tracking and journaling.

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But even if you're doing this
for yourself, tracking,

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journaling, knowing your body,
knowing how you feel, watching

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your dogs poop, we've talked
about this so many times.

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It's so important to know what's
going on in in their body.

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Yeah, so but basically the idea
and you and the reason why it's

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not so important to stick to,
like is it a one to one?

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Is it a one to 1.11 to 1.5?
Why that isn't as important?

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That's like a general guideline.
What's actually important is if

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the body is producing ketones.
So if the body is actually

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using.
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So Bronwyn is saying she so she
specializes in cancer in dogs

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and she is again talking about
how we are feeding the dog in

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front of us and she either does
a 1 to one or a one to two,

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depending on if they can handle
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And that is an important thing
because fat tolerance is

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something that not all dogs
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So a dog could potentially have
had, you know, chronic

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pancreatitis its whole life and,
and, and never been properly

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treated for it and may not be as
fat adept.

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And so it is more difficult with
some dogs.

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But again, you're working with a
dog in front of you, what's

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important.
And you can actually test this

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through like a simple blood
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It's similar to like a blood
glucose monitor, but it's a

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ketone monitor where you do like
a little pin pinprick and get a

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little bit of blood and test the
ketones in the blood.

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So if you're super, super
dedicated pet parent, you could

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do this at home.
And the important part is that

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our cells are not producing
energy from the carbs and the

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sugars in the diet, but they're
producing energy from the fat in

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the diet.
And that's what ketosis is,

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where we are, all of us, all of
us, humans, cats, dogs have the

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ability to both make energy from
carbs and sugars and fats.

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And it's actually optimal for
our bodies to burn energy, burn

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fuel on fats.
It's much healthier for us.

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We have the ability.
Cats have less.

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I think cats are obligate
carnivores, so we always have to

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kind of put them in a class of
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So everything we say for humans
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little asterisk by it.
Like it may work for a cat, but

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we may need to optimize this a
little bit better for a cat.

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But that is the important part.
And then on the other hand, for

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a high protein diet, we're going
to lower the fat slightly,

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certainly carbs.
We should be less focused on

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what is the ratio from protein
to fat and more focused on

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keeping those carbohydrates
really, really, really, really

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low and ideally only getting
carbohydrates from plant

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sources.
Though nature's carbohydrates,

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those are the only and, and we
need to be really, really picky

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about those low glycemic,
preferably veggies that we're

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doing.
Keeping as much sugar, as much

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carbohydrate as possible out of
the diet because we don't want

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to feed the cancer cells.
Because that's the thing with a

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cancer cell that some people
probably understand this.

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A lot of people probably don't.
We talked last week about the

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fact that we all have cancer
cells in our bodies all the

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time.
But generally speaking, as long

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as we're healthy enough, our
immune system is keeping all of

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that under control.
And the only difference really

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in a healthy cell and a cancer
cell is that like it, it kind of

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starts out like it.
It would almost be the same

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thing, except it doesn't act the
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It it acts like like a zombie
kind of where it just goes and

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goes and goes and goes and goes
and goes and goes.

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And whereas in a normal cell
life, it serves its purpose and

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then it dies off.
Our body cleans it out of our

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body once it dies off.
These cancer cells don't do

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that.
So we have to be intentional

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about killing them if our immune
system isn't up to the task of

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doing it itself.
That's a very like cancer for

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gummies explanation, but.
I loved it.

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I thought it was a fantastic
explanation.

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I just tagged Dolce.
Is it Dolce or Dolce, Dolce

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legacy, both on everywhere.
Just yeah, Dolce, because I want

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to say it in Italian.
Dolce la Dolce Vita.

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But Bronwyn has a very important
story to share about her dog's

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experience with cancer and what
fuels her work today.

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So I haven't had her on my show
yet.

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Bronwyn, we have to do that so I
can learn it from, you know,

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from you and not just from your
About us page.

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Dolce, Dolce.
OK, It's Dolce, Dolce.

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OK.
Thank you for that.

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OK, so it's not Dolce Vita like
I was pretending it and I, you

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know, I think that it's people,
you know, I think we all know

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kind of know what cancer is and
how it functions and we just

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know we don't want it.
Like I think that that's pretty

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much, we don't want it, but we
don't want to make the lifestyle

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changes that really like keeps
it at Bay.

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And the good thing that I said,
like I always say this and I

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just interviewed somebody and I
talked about the same thing when

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we talked about obesity is we
control what our pets eat.

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So that makes it a lot easier
than us fighting ourselves about

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like that, like that cupcake we
really shouldn't be having or

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that, you know, that cocktail
that we don't need.

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It's really makes it so much
easier that we're controlling

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what they can eat because they
can't open the fridge and help

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themselves to like, you know, a
can of tuna or like a bacon

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sandwich.
Yeah, so very.

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True.
It really is up to us and we

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have the resources.
We have people like Jessica, we

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have people like Bronwyn, we
have experts that are going to

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help us create like a toxic
environment in our pets bodies

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for cancer, right?
Like, what we want is for the

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cancer to feel very unwelcome,
very, very uncomfortable so that

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it can not continue to grow.
That is basically the goal that

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we all know about.
But like, can you give us some

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practical ways that you help
people make the body a little

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less hospitable?
So one of the things I like to

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do, and this is for with or
without diagnosis, is HTMA

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testing.
This is something that you can

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do from the comfort of your
home.

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And one of the great things
about HTMA testing this is hair

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tissue.
Hair tissue mineral analysis

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testing is that we are looking
at toxins in the body like heavy

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metals.
We are looking for nutrient

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absorption.
We're looking at different

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nutrient levels.
One of which that we need to pay

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particular attention to is
vitamin DI.

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Think we've all gotten a huge
dose of education on vitamin D

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in the past four or five years
and how important that is to all

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of our bodies for disease
prevention.

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And I say this in conjunction
with the HTMA testing.

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You can get just a vitamin D
test, but I think for the money,

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go ahead and do the HTMA instead
of the single vitamin D testing

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because you're going to pay
almost as much for the vitamin D

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00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680
test as you would for the HTMA.
And if somebody wants to reach

448
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,360
out to me, I absolutely love
Parsley Pet and would love to

449
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,320
send you an affiliate link for
that.

450
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,640
I do use affiliate links, but
not because like I only use them

451
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,920
for products that I absolutely
am in love with.

452
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320
I'm going to recommend whatever
is best for your pet, and it

453
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120
just so happens if somebody has
an affiliate like I will send it

454
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760
to you.
But yeah, there's no vitamin D

455
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,080
Then why?
Anybody should be turned off by

456
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,000
somebody recommending an
affiliate link, especially if

457
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
you trust them and they have
like, you know, certifications

458
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
and stuff.
That should be something that

459
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,920
almost is not a deterrent, but
rather something that appeals to

460
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,960
you because if they were
recommending it and they're

461
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,000
putting, you know, they're
they're really supporting this

462
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,400
brand and we as creators need to
support ourselves.

463
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,320
So that is why it is a win win
for everybody.

464
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640
So I remember telling somebody
in the pet industry that they

465
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080
are a creator and that they
should do more affiliate links

466
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
and they were of the mind that
they were going to turn people

467
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,680
off.
That should never be a turn off

468
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,280
like in the IT should be just
part of what you think of as the

469
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000
general message of the creator.
Like if you trust them here,

470
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
there, and everywhere, there's
no reason why you shouldn't

471
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
trust their affiliate link.
If you don't trust them, and if

472
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760
you think that their stuff is a
little sketchy, then don't use

473
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,240
the affiliate link.
But don't ever judge people for

474
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040
having affiliate links I think.
For.

475
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Me, it's like I want to support
the creators.

476
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,640
The creators that I love, I want
to support them because I know

477
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,120
that there's not a lot of money
in educating the public for free

478
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,920
and so.
That's yeah.

479
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Something I try to do to
support.

480
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920
And Bronwyn says the same thing.
She says, Yeah, she's

481
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240
notoriously cruel when it comes
to who she recommends.

482
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Jessica is as well.
And it's if they're putting

483
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
their names behind it.
Even with an affiliate link, you

484
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,640
can trust that this is a pot, a
positive product for your pet in

485
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,000
your life.
Yeah.

486
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,280
And Apple the Golden who just
got a new puppy and I'm trying

487
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,920
to remember it's Maple
something.

488
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Please remind me the new puppy.
I'm super excited for you.

489
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Curious if the HTMA test for
vitamin D is as accurate as a

490
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,320
blood test?
So I have talked quite a bit

491
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,720
with Chelsea Kent, who owns
Parsley Pet and she is very

492
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:41,200
confident in the testing, the
HTMA testing that they do and

493
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,520
the results that they're getting
and she has a huge database to

494
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,240
kind of back her up.
Maple cider, I knew it was Maple

495
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,040
something.
So there are certain, there are

496
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:01,960
certain people, as Isabel was
saying in the pet space that I

497
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,720
trust over and above a lot of
other people.

498
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320
And Chelsea Kent is one of
those.

499
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,120
And in fact, she was on.
Yes, and so does Bronwyn.

500
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,560
Bronwyn says that she loves her.
In person.

501
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Bronwyn also loves her.
So you have two recommendations

502
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440
there.
And then Bronwyn does say do not

503
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,080
wait to make changes to your
pets lives until there is an

504
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,240
issue.
Absolutely.

505
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760
Just now.
And that's thank you for that,

506
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,400
because that's exactly why we
are here on Mondays.

507
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Yeah.
Because we're all about

508
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,160
prevention, she and I, Jessica,
that's one of the things that's

509
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,800
always bonded us is that we are
proactive, we are preventive,

510
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,840
and we are those people that are
trying to make better choices

511
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480
every single day.
Even if we fall flat on our face

512
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,840
while we try, we try.
And we hope that we bring you

513
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480
some, you know, some tidbits
that can help you do the same.

514
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Yes.
So HTML testing is like one of

515
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040
the number one things that I
would want to do, especially if

516
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
I'm talking about prevention.
But even if we're talking about

517
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
after diagnosis, microbiome
testing is another one that I

518
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,960
love because it all happens.
I mean, we're, we're talking 70

519
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160
to 80% of the immune system is
in the gut.

520
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
We have got to get, I mean, we
talked about, we talked about

521
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,920
gut health so much.
And obviously we want to do as

522
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320
much as possible with food and
feeding fresh food, which we

523
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,280
have talked about ad nauseam and
we'll continue to do so because

524
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,560
it's my favorite thing to talk
about.

525
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,760
But microbiome testing can allow
us to make adjustments where we

526
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,480
might otherwise not realize
adjustments need to be made.

527
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,800
For example, my dog Kimberly,
she has been raw fed since the

528
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,920
day I adopted her almost nine
years ago.

529
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,160
And I tested her microbiome and
it was not balanced because I

530
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,280
needed to make some adjustments.
And so it's OK to get to think

531
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000
you're doing everything right
and get a test and realize you

532
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,280
haven't been doing everything
right.

533
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880
It's totally fine.
Like, OK, just make some tweaks.

534
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Don't beat yourself up.
You don't know what you don't

535
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,680
know.
The other thing is omega-3

536
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:14,840
testing or Omega testing.
So many of us, of us, our pets

537
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
especially, are going to be
deficient in Omega threes.

538
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:26,639
Are are or and or the Omega 6
that we are ingesting every day

539
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:32,239
far exceeds our Omega threes.
The other thing with I will just

540
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,199
kind of put like a little
asterisk next to any sort of

541
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,040
omega-3 supplementation because
not enough people are talking

542
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,440
about this is when we do
supplement Omega threes, we also

543
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,320
need to be supplementing vitamin
E Vitamin Omega threes,

544
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,440
especially at higher doses in
the body can deplete vitamin E.

545
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,239
So we need to be supplementing
vitamin E when we are also

546
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,400
supplementing Omega threes,
which is something I would want

547
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,720
to do for cancer anyway, most
likely because vitamin E is

548
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,000
going to, again, we would do the
HDMA testing to make sure

549
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:13,840
because vitamin E is fat
soluble, but vitamin E is going

550
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,320
to fight free radicals.
It's going to fight oxidation in

551
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,320
the body.
It's going to help a lot with

552
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,360
just bringing inflammation down
the body, similarly to Omega

553
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,760
threes.
Exercise, like we've already

554
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
mentioned last week and Isabel
talked about a little bit at the

555
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,760
beginning, exercise grounding,
being out in nature.

556
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760
So the frequency of the earth
literally changes the frequency

557
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,960
in our bodies.
It helps with oxidative damage.

558
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,680
It fights free radicals.
We are literally like if you

559
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,000
have ever had your dog running
around outside and they come

560
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
back inside and they jump in
there, you're cuddling with them

561
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
and you just get this like burst
of like, you don't know what

562
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,280
that is.
It's the like ions from them

563
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
actually having been outside and
grounding and they are

564
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,720
transferring those on to you.
It's really an incredible thing

565
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,880
and it's free.
Ideally we're doing this in and

566
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,480
on healthy soil that isn't, you
know, contaminated with all

567
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
kinds of chemicals and
glyphosate and whatever else.

568
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Something else that is free is
being very much aware of this.

569
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Our bodies circadian rhythm, our
dogs body circadian rhythm, only

570
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200
eating when the light, when the
sun is out.

571
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,880
So we talked about fasting.
We can use the time the sun is

572
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,120
out as a feeding window if we
need somewhere to start.

573
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,240
That's the only time we should
be eating.

574
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,040
That's the only time our dogs
should be eating.

575
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640
And we can shorten that
certainly because there are

576
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,400
different fasting windows for
different things.

577
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,520
We are and we could talk, we
could do a whole thing on on

578
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,360
fasting because there are do's
and don'ts with fasting and

579
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
that's probably like a whole
episode in and of itself.

580
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840
But just be aware that that is
actually really beneficial

581
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,880
because our digestive system
needs an extensive amount of

582
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,120
time, hours and hours and hours
to settle down before our body

583
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,720
can start a process called
autophagy, which is clearing out

584
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,480
all the junk in our body.
So if we're never giving our

585
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,000
bodies a chance to do that,
inflation, inflammation is going

586
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,800
rampant.
Anyway, what did Bryman say?

587
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Oh so.
Bronwyn and then she she says

588
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,880
first she says I love that I've
never I love that I've never

589
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,440
thought about that regarding
circadian rhythms for dogs and

590
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,240
honestly, I agree.
I I eat when the sun's down.

591
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,280
Should I not be eating when the
sun's down?

592
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,760
I'm going to have like the
senior.

593
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200
What is it?
The early word specials every

594
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,000
night?
OK, we.

595
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,320
Can handle that.
All right.

596
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,720
And then Bronwyn says even us as
nutritionists require testing.

597
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,160
Luna has been with me for four
years and in February was

598
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,280
diagnosed with MCT.
Just because I work with cancer

599
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,240
doesn't make me immune to it.
Your DVMS don't have a crystal

600
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,720
ball to see him to the body.
Neither do we use the testing as

601
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,040
a guideline.
We use all of the tools

602
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,840
available to us.
I love that.

603
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Yeah, it's so important and
that's why testing is so

604
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,400
important and it can be one.
And just kind of, again, I'm

605
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000
going to go off on a tangent
here for a minute.

606
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,280
It can be really difficult when
you have a pet parent.

607
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,200
So I'm just going to use myself
as an example when I have a pet

608
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,720
parent come to me and they're
like, they've already spent

609
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,320
hundreds, sometimes thousands of
dollars chasing something with

610
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,920
veterinarians, with specialist,
whatever, a lot of times.

611
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920
And I'm just going to put this
out there because I would, I, I,

612
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
I both would love and also
cringe at the idea of talking

613
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,200
about veterinary nutritionist.
But I see people that pay

614
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,120
hundreds and hundreds of dollars
for recipes from people that

615
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,640
don't work for their dogs.
And so they have spent hundreds,

616
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,240
thousand, sometimes thousands of
dollars before they ever find

617
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,560
me.
And then of course, I have of a

618
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,600
fee because this is my time and
energy and effort.

619
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
And then I'm recommending these
tests and they're like, OK, now

620
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,800
I got to buy the test too.
And I know it's hard and I know

621
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200
it's difficult and I know
financially it can be really

622
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,640
difficult.
But just like Brian once said,

623
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,600
like we don't have crystal balls
and you know, to be able to

624
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840
really lead you down the right
path, I need to know certain

625
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,520
things.
And it really is going to be

626
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400
more beneficial in the long run.
No matter where you're starting

627
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,240
at, whether you're starting from
a puppy or you are starting at

628
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,360
thousands of dollars in that
bills and you feel like you've

629
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:56,280
gotten nowhere.
Whatever comes next, putting a

630
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,640
putting time, energy and yes,
money into.

631
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,280
Fixing things right now is going
to make everything moving

632
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,440
forward so much better quality
of life, quality of health span

633
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,880
very possibly, very possibly
less in vet bills moving

634
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040
forward.
So there's so much like it's, it

635
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
can be hard.
And I just want to say like I

636
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
understand and I empathize with
that because I've been there

637
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,720
too.
I have had those many, many

638
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,760
thousands of dollars vet bills
in the like, I get it.

639
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:40,080
I'm not immune to what people
are going through, but we have

640
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,640
to have this information to be
accurate in making suggestions

641
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,640
moving forward.
Yeah, and I think that you don't

642
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,240
even have to like, like Bronwyn
said, you don't wait until you

643
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,800
get a diagnosis.
But sometimes the body does give

644
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,640
us like little hints that
something's gone wrong.

645
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Allergies are a really good
example of that where like don't

646
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,920
wait until you know after a
million doses of some allergy

647
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,440
medication to start working on
why is your pet showing these

648
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,160
symptoms.
Start now.

649
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,520
Because when you you go ahead
and you start with the gut

650
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,440
microbiome testing, you find
something odd there.

651
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,280
You work with somebody like
Jessica, you get that under

652
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040
control.
Now, when you've saved a little

653
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,040
money, you can go into some kind
of omega-3 testing and see where

654
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,320
that you stand there.
And then after that, once you

655
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,920
have that kind of under control,
now you go into the HTML testing

656
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640
and you see stuff.
So you don't have to do it all

657
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,680
at one time.
If you're proactive, if you wait

658
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,080
for a diagnosis, yeah.
I mean, you got to throw

659
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,480
everything at it, right?
And that's when it gets like

660
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
really scary, really stressful,
really expensive.

661
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,600
But when you're when your dog's
already showing you signs,

662
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,160
something chronic, anything
chronic like where it's

663
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,880
chronically your pets
chronically throwing up, your

664
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,880
pets chronically having
diarrhea, your pets chronically

665
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,240
licking at themselves, those
kinds of things are red flags.

666
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,640
Yes, Bronwyn says.
Acid reflux, gassy belly, those

667
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,400
are not normal and are red flags
as she eats her carrot cake in

668
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,120
the dark.
But it's true.

669
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,960
Like we kind of like let things
go.

670
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,720
And what we need to remember is
that once we see signs from our

671
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,520
pets, usually things are pretty
much advanced.

672
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,800
So if you start seeing really
gassy bellies, like to the point

673
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,480
where you can see your pet
pacing now, this isn't a

674
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,720
veterinary emergency, right?
Whereas 5 months ago it may have

675
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,640
just been like, oof, what's that
smell, right?

676
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,640
So like really being proactive
is the most important thing

677
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:43,360
because we have to know that we,
they can't tell us what they're

678
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,480
feeling.
So every sign needs to be a

679
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,280
flag.
Maybe not a red flag, but like a

680
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,120
yellow flag, right?
Like something that tells us,

681
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200
let's start with one of these
tests and go from there.

682
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Yeah.
And I think again and going back

683
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,560
to food, food can either be, and
I don't know who started this

684
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,400
it, it's probably goes back many
thousands of years, but food is

685
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,160
either the best form of medicine
or the slowest form of form of

686
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,760
poison.
And so when we think about that,

687
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,720
I, we talk a lot about the base
diet because that is important.

688
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:27,640
But whether we are dealing with
a cancer diagnosis or not, we

689
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,960
can use things like curcumin,
like green tea, like mushrooms.

690
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,880
These are really, really
wonderful things for reducing

691
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,800
inflammation in the body, for
fighting free radicals,

692
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,840
oxidative stress.
And then of course, there are

693
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,000
other herbs, you know, getting
into Chinese medicine or even

694
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,720
using Western herbs, all of it
can be beneficial and topics of

695
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:57,600
their own because they are.
So yeah, probably Hippocrates.

696
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,040
That's what I was thinking of
from.

697
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,160
I think it was Hippocrates.
I was thinking that too is one

698
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,000
of those Greeks.
Yes, yes, one of those.

699
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Roman Greek.
Philosophers.

700
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,960
One of the other things that was
really interesting to me when I

701
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,520
was listening the other day to
Doctor Kendra Pope and I think

702
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,960
we were talking last week a
little bit about this was that

703
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:28,720
so many of the cancers that she
sees, so many of them our GI

704
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,760
cancers.
And so nutrient absorption is a

705
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,160
problem and nutrient absorption
is something that again we

706
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,240
talked about with the HTMA
testing, we are doing this

707
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,200
earlier on.
If we are doing this fairly

708
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,840
regularly throughout our dogs
lives, we can catch that

709
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:55,520
earlier, we can realize there's
a problem earlier and a lack of

710
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,400
nutrient absorption is
indicative of a larger problem

711
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,120
and we can get on that quicker
because we ideally would never

712
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,680
we we don't ever want to get to
the point where we get that

713
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,240
cancer diagnosis.
Yeah.

714
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,240
So I think that's.
Anne Wigmore.

715
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
It was Anne Wigmore.
And now we know.

716
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Thank you.
For doing that, I probably

717
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,440
should have supported Jessica in
looking that up, but I was just

718
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,160
like.
Listening.

719
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
It's OK, Sorry.
About that, Jessica, Thank you.

720
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Bronwyn we.
Need a We need a Jamie I.

721
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,760
Have a question?
We have a question.

722
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,160
Will you be discussing your
thoughts on red light therapy?

723
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Ask Sarah Leilani.
So I actually, I'm going to be

724
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,520
really honest and say that I
would, I need to do more

725
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,440
research into that.
I know how beneficial it is for

726
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,520
humans and I think it could very
well be beneficial for our pets

727
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440
too, but probably not in the
same ways.

728
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,280
Because when I think of, you
know, our dogs and our cats,

729
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,240
they don't even because of all
of the, the fur on their bodies,

730
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,640
they have, for example, they
have to get vitamin D through

731
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,880
their diet because they're not,
they're not able to like be in

732
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
sunlight and, and convert it
like we can as humans.

733
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,480
So there's probably, I need to
do more research on this, but

734
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,760
there's probably going to be
some of that going on.

735
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,600
However, what they're getting in
their eyes could very well be

736
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,880
beneficial.
So we talked about circadian

737
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,400
rhythm and the fact that in our
homes in general, I'm just as

738
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,480
bad about this as anybody else.
My whole house is full of blue

739
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,760
lights.
But I would very much love to

740
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,680
switch out my lights to red
lights because we shouldn't have

741
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,560
all these blue lights once the
sun goes down.

742
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
And it absolutely is going to
affect our pets as well.

743
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,400
So what they're getting through,
you know, that their retinas

744
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600
going into their brain, yeah,
there probably could be some

745
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,440
benefits to red light there be
that way.

746
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,440
I just don't know how much
they're going to absorb because

747
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,440
of their fur.
I hope that's a good enough

748
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,560
answer.
I don't know.

749
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,040
I like it for my skin.
I like it for my skin.

750
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,200
I think it's great.
So I feel like all of these

751
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,800
things, they're worth a shot,
right?

752
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Like they're worth a shot if
you're, I don't know where you'd

753
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,360
find it, if you're veterinarians
offering it.

754
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,680
I remember, you know, just like
the laser therapy that they use

755
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,240
for a lot of things for like
injuries and cysts and tumors

756
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:38,000
and pain and, and, and
arthritis, like, you know, those

757
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,720
are a laser and you know,
somebody started that and found

758
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:43,920
a use for it.
So I'm sure we'll see A use for

759
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,520
these for red light therapy,
just like we're seeing it so

760
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
much in humans.
And I love my Cleopatra mask

761
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,320
that I put on at night and I
look like a robot and my kids

762
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,040
love it And I, I, I think it's
keeping me young and beautiful.

763
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,400
So I'm here for it.
I'm here for I'm here for more

764
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
research on red light therapy
for pets.

765
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:07,640
Yeah, for sure, Bronwyn said.
Her husband practices circadian

766
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,560
rhythms.
So now she's absolutely going

767
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,280
down the route.
Yeah, I think it's.

768
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
OK, can you explain to me what
practicing circadian rhythms

769
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,280
means?
Yeah, I'm.

770
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520
I need to know what that means,
What what is?

771
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,120
I think I don't.
We all practice them without I

772
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,880
mean.
Well, I think I think the idea,

773
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,600
and Brian can certainly chime in
on what her husband does, but I

774
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,680
think the idea is that we are to
wait.

775
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,160
We are to wake with the sun and
set with the sun.

776
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,800
That's kind of how we are all
designed.

777
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,280
We're not, you know, there are
nocturnal animals out there,

778
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,000
certainly.
But generally speaking, when

779
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,440
we're talking about humans and
dogs and cats, like we are

780
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,880
designed to be up with the sun
and down with the sun and when

781
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,840
we are out of sync with nature.
Doctor Kelly Means talks about

782
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,640
this so much.
I'm actually really excited to

783
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,320
dive into her book.
Yes.

784
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,640
And watching that is one of the
things that you are supposed to

785
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,560
do first thing in the morning
before you do anything else is

786
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,440
get sunlight in your eyes.
And watching the sun go down can

787
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,640
actually change your metabolism.
If I'm if I remember.

788
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,640
That correctly, those who are
not on Facebook, Bronwyn says he

789
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,400
gets up first thing in the
morning to see the sunrise.

790
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Then he watches the sun go down.
Does that mean he goes to sleep

791
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,920
or does he just watch it and
then continues about his

792
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,440
evening?
I need to know more about this

793
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,120
because at least right now, like
the sun comes up in El Paso like

794
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,120
6:00 AM, but then it's down by
6.

795
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,640
So does that mean I'm I'm going
to be in bed by 6 because my

796
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,640
kids won't let it?
I'd be super down for that, but

797
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,840
my kids are going to be like
Nah.

798
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,640
So I think, I think ideally
you're going to turn on red

799
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,560
lights instead of blue lights
for anything you need after the

800
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,320
sun goes down, yes.
So for however long you need to

801
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,640
stay up.
But I am right there with

802
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Bronwyn.
It doesn't fit me either.

803
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,880
And one of the things that I
learned recently about myself is

804
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,280
that I am, I believe I am an
empath.

805
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,400
I am a very empathetic person.
I don't even know how to gauge

806
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,640
my own emotions sometimes.
Like I'm that empathetic.

807
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:42,760
And when everyone else goes to
sleep, it's like that's when I

808
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,160
feel most productive because I
can actually.

809
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,520
It's like the whole world's,
like during the day, the whole

810
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,240
world is going on and on and on
and I can't focus and I can't.

811
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,560
And so I, I've always been a
night owl and I have never

812
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,680
really thought about why even
like trying to work when I work

813
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,960
during the day, I get stuff
done, but I'm like constantly

814
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,080
going from here and here and
here and here and here and I'm

815
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,240
like, am I ADHD?
I don't know.

816
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,360
But then once the sun goes down,
once people are calm, once the

817
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,160
whole world isn't in a freaking,
you know, cyclone, I feel like I

818
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,960
can focus so much and I haven't
done anything differently, but

819
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,760
the sun has gone down and I can
focus so much and I can get so

820
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,160
much more done.
And I think that's why.

821
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,720
Why?
I hear that in my my house for

822
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,920
sure.
Like the pets that like the pets

823
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,400
are really good.
They're the first ones to be

824
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,480
ready to go to bed.
Like half the time I can't get

825
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,800
them I'm in bed by 8 too,
Bronwyn just because my kids

826
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,440
force me to be otherwise they
won't go to sleep because they

827
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,280
have FOMO.
So I basically just go to sleep

828
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,960
and I work better and the pets
are ready to go by 8.

829
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Like I can't even get them out
to the go potty.

830
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,080
Like they don't want to have
anything to do with the outdoors

831
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,280
after a certain time.
Like for them, they really do

832
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,520
practice that circadian rhythm
where they're like the SAT MO.

833
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,440
The newest edition is ready to
go at 6:30 every morning and you

834
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
know, at 7 is probably the
latest I can get him to go out.

835
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Like he will not not go out.
He doesn't want to, especially

836
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,240
if it's dark and a little wet
out there, he doesn't want it.

837
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,200
And when I write I at night it
really does feel like I am more

838
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,200
creative and more like the words
come easier to me.

839
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,600
Yeah.
So yeah, I.

840
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Hear, I understand that.
I understand that.

841
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,440
So what is red lights in the
home is a is is a question you

842
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,800
can actually switch out because
pretty much everything in our

843
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,600
homes right now is blue light,
including that, like coming off

844
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,400
of your devices, your TV's,
everything.

845
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,600
So you can actually switch out
light bulbs to red light light

846
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,040
bulbs and Instagram is like, oh,
there you go.

847
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,720
So you can switch those out on
your devices.

848
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,440
There are generally settings and
you can just Google this or ask

849
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,080
ChatGPT how to change this on
your specific device.

850
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:04,240
You can set different prompts to
switch your screen to a red

851
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:08,480
light instead of a blue light.
So like on my phone, I hit the

852
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,520
power button three times and
then I get a prompt and I can

853
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
change the color filter and then
my screen goes red.

854
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,840
So I'll do that at night
sometimes when I remember.

855
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,600
But like just turn the TV off
basically.

856
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Don't watch the TV at least a
couple of hours before going to

857
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:34,560
bed is generally the consensus.
But you know, it's, it's the

858
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880
world we live in.
Read a book.

859
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,280
Is is I think what what most
people say.

860
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,800
Yeah, read a book.
By candlelight.

861
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,000
Journal, Journal by candlelight.
Like get your Bridgeton on.

862
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,280
I don't know.
I don't know, like, literally,

863
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,920
not figuratively.
Yeah.

864
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,560
Don't watch Bridgerton.
Just, like, pretend you live in

865
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Bridgerton Times and you're like
journaling and you're, you know,

866
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960
what is it sitting in the
reading room?

867
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,000
In the sitting room.
How cute would that be?

868
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,240
How cute.
I mean, this is what I dream of

869
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,440
my kids.
Mike Bronwyn goes to sleep

870
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,240
listening to Alien movies.
So she's out of this

871
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:19,120
conversation.
Yeah.

872
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,880
I mean, I listen to my kid chat
the whole night until I finally

873
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,000
fell asleep.
And I actually work at night a

874
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,640
lot.
So I have blue light special at

875
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440
my house every night.
So yeah, I got it.

876
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Maybe check my device and see if
my computer will do that

877
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,200
automatically so that I don't
forget.

878
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,160
But yeah, I mean, it's really,
it's hard because everything is

879
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480
set up, like we said about the
environment.

880
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,960
We'll wrap up I guess now, but
everything in our environment is

881
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,360
kind of set up, set up to
challenge these healthy

882
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,160
behaviors.
It is you're.

883
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,400
Connected constantly, EMS
everywhere.

884
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Like, yeah, I was going to say,
I think we brought that up last

885
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,440
week because ideally we would
turn our Wi-Fi off when we're

886
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,000
not using it.
But, and even one of the things

887
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
that I remember, I think this
might have been Doctor Odette

888
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,160
Souter, like put your wherever
your pet beds are, like make

889
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,360
sure they're not close to an
outlet.

890
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,080
And like, so there's all kinds
of different, like we can really

891
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,760
get nitty gritty, but there's
already so much to work with

892
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,040
with what we've talked about.
Well, I have a pet bed.

893
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,400
No, but that's really good
because I have a pet bed right

894
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,880
next to an outlet right now for
the little one, The little crazy

895
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,400
one, and I'm going to move it
immediately.

896
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,120
And like, so that's a super easy
thing to do.

897
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
And that's those are the kinds
of things I like because those

898
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,800
little things add up to.
And there's no, it's not like

899
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,880
you're spending money.
You're just moving something or

900
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,840
you're just turning off your
Wi-Fi or you're, you know,

901
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480
feeding an hour earlier so that
you're doing it with the sun,

902
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,800
whatever it is.
Like these little things make a

903
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,520
big difference.
So I hope that you guys, I hope

904
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,680
you guys have some takeaways
between last week and this week.

905
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,840
Next week we are going to be
live.

906
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,680
We haven't decided on a topic
yet.

907
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,160
If you have any recommendations,
please let us know.

908
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,280
If you have any questions,
comments, please comment.

909
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,000
We'll still see this after we
wrap up here.

910
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040
And go move your bed, your pet
beds away from outlets and feed

911
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,040
the best food you can afford.
And have a wonderful

912
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,520
Thanksgiving.
Yes, you too, have a wonderful

913
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Thanksgiving and don't, I don't
know, don't go crazy on Black

914
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,800
Friday.
I don't know.

915
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Should we sit?
I don't know.

916
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Be very mindful, real.
Quick, real quick.

917
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,440
So next Monday is actually Cyber
Monday.

918
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,320
Yeah, yeah.
So we should talk about what we

919
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,400
would buy if we had $100 or
$200, what we would buy.

920
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,480
Gracious, wouldn't that?
Be Oh my gracious, that would be

921
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,720
so difficult, OK.
OK, so.

922
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,000
That's very.
Tough.

923
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,280
Well, let's think of a budget
and we'll talk about what we

924
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,720
would buy if we had this money
to just drop.

925
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,720
What would be about first and
why and which brand we would get

926
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:09,960
because obviously that's an
important part of it.

927
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,680
And if you guys have any like
specific products you're in the

928
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,560
market for, let us know.
Maybe we can do a little

929
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,160
research with you because that
would be fun to do on, you know,

930
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Cyber Monday.
Do not spend all your money on

931
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200
nonsense.
Don't fall for the marketing

932
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,200
traps.
Research the products you buy

933
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,040
before you buy them. 0500
dollars, 500 says $500.

934
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,680
I think that's fair.
I think that's perfect.

935
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,960
I might have a hard time
spending $500 because I don't

936
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
feel like I need any pet
products now, but they have to

937
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,160
be pet products and it's
$500.00.

938
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,840
So I might just stock up on some
food.

939
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,360
But that's that's a cop out.
So we gotta, we can't, we have

940
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,720
to choose at least three
products.

941
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,960
OK, cuz $500 doesn't go far.
I'm like only $500 and.

942
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Isabel's like if I were to say
like 500 five, $100.00 of food,

943
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,760
$500.00 of food, then it's like,
OK, that's a cop out, but $500

944
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680
something that you know you
could use right now that you

945
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,720
need exactly food.
That's exactly what I would

946
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,640
spend $500 on if I had.
Well, I was, I just won a $250

947
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,320
shopping spree at only Natural
Pets only location in Boulder,

948
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Co And I went in and was like, I
need a dog and I need a food

949
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,320
that's good for cats and dogs.
Freeze dried raw lead me and

950
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,400
they had like two options and I
bought one of them $250 worth.

951
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,320
So I mean, yeah, I got them
already did this challenge.

952
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,400
But this time I'm going to do it
with like research and like what

953
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,040
I need.
And it could be pet products, it

954
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680
could be of any sort, it could
be supplements, it could be

955
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,200
accessories.
I already know what I'm, I

956
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,440
already know.
I already know.

957
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,080
I already know a couple for my
cat and I'm going to run out of

958
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,880
money quick.
I'm like, how?

959
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,240
How am I going to stick to $500?
Shout out to my friend Aaron at

960
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,840
Wildcat, because while I just
interviewed Wildcat, actually

961
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,800
that's probably where I'm going
to spend some money in this

962
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,360
virtual pretend shopping spree.
Wildcat founder Aaron is

963
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960
adorable.
I met her at the CFA Expo in

964
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Cleveland.
She was my guest for this week,

965
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,240
so stay tuned.
That drops tomorrow morning on

966
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,800
YouTube.
It is a Thanksgiving specific

967
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,920
episode, but we talked talk
about cats, we talk about our

968
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
love of cats, we talk about
rebranding cats.

969
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,800
We talk about people who say
they hate cats, all of that.

970
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,640
So if you're a cat lover, please
check that out on your Who's on

971
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Your Show this week.
Brad, Clint Thorne from Steve's

972
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,840
Real Food is going to be on
tomorrow.

973
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,160
We talked about the history of
Steve's Real Food and why

974
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,480
nutrition is so important, How
they were like the first, I

975
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,640
think, commercially available
raw food, no synthetics.

976
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,760
They use raw goat's milk and all
of their food formulations,

977
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,520
which I love.
Yeah, yeah.

978
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,160
Do you know why?
Do you know why I'm reacting?

979
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,680
No, that's.
The food I spent 200.

980
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:15,480
That's the.
Food I spent $250 on full

981
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,520
circle.
That's the food I bought.

982
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,040
I have a a box full of bags of
it.

983
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,080
It's yes, it's such great food.
I'm so excited to try it with my

984
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,040
pets.
They have not had it yet because

985
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,280
I have to do a little unboxing
as a thank you to blog pause and

986
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,120
to only natural pet.
But yes, that's the food that I

987
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,800
got.
So I can't wait to watch this

988
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,000
episode.
Yes, I am.

989
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,760
I'm really excited for it.
I mean, I'm excited for a lot of

990
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,480
episodes.
But if you're curious about that

991
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,000
HTMA testing we talked about
earlier, last week's episode was

992
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,680
with Chelsea Kent and we did
talk about it.

993
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,920
So go check that out too.
Yeah.

994
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,720
Remember that we both have
independent podcast covered in

995
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,400
pet hair, The Pet Parenting
Reset.

996
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,680
You can find us on any of the
podcasting platforms you love.

997
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,680
Make sure you rate US, give us a
thumbs up on YouTube and give us

998
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,880
some love on social media and
follow and review us on the

999
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,040
podcasting platforms.
That really does help your

1000
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,520
creators, as does using their
affiliate links, which I think

1001
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Jessica will put in the
comments.

1002
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:25,280
I can do that.
Well, I'll put it in my stories

1003
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,040
because you can't click at the
comments on it.

1004
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,920
Studio.
Yeah, well, you can on Facebook.

1005
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,240
Put it on Facebook and YouTube,
or at least put it on this chat

1006
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,240
right here.
Yeah, I can do that.

1007
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,120
Yeah.
Before we before we log off.

1008
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,080
So, yeah, guys, have a wonderful
Thanksgiving.

1009
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Don't overtreat your pets.
Avoid the raw doughs and the

1010
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,200
coffees and the alcoholic
beverages.

1011
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,560
If you have guests coming over,
make sure they don't put their

1012
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,600
purses with a xylitol gum on the
floor.

1013
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,840
You know, the usual stuff that
can get your pet into trouble.

1014
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,120
No cooked bones, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

1015
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,400
Nobody wants to end up at the
emergency vet this week.

1016
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,480
And we did do something about
this topic about Thanksgiving

1017
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,760
foods last year.
So check out the Pet Parenting

1018
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Resets feed so that you can
check out one of those

1019
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,680
conversations that we had last
year on this time about foods

1020
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,000
you can and cannot feed to your
pets around the holidays.

1021
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:29,640
And the Parsley Pet link is in
the YouTube comments and we'll

1022
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,960
add it to Facebook.
Yeah, I'll go into Facebook.

1023
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,400
You're going to make me go into
Facebook.

1024
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,240
I'm done.
Once we end the screen, you'll

1025
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,240
see it.
I, we.

1026
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Yeah, we can always add it to
Facebook later.

1027
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,400
Well, thank you guys again.
Have a wonderful evening.

1028
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Thank you, Bronwyn for
participating in.

1029
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Thank you, Oh my gosh, so much.
I appreciate you so much.

1030
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,080
She's so valuable and full of
information and so thankful for

1031
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,960
her and.
I'm going to have her on my show

1032
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,760
next year.
I, I can, I promise.

1033
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Yes, we're thankful for you
guys.

1034
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760
I'm thankful for you, Jessica.
Oh, I'm thankful for you.

1035
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,840
I live.
Here is here.

1036
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,240
To say hi.
Oh, hi, Kiera.

1037
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,880
She's gone.
She's like, I keep hearing my

1038
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,360
name and I've heard something
about Steve's girl. 13 and. 1/2

1039
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,280
What's?
That she heard something about

1040
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,880
Steve's real food.
Oh yes, she's like, I heard

1041
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,200
food.
Foods that they can and cannot

1042
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,120
eat.
She's like Turkey.

1043
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,040
Tell me more about Turkey.
Tell me she wants.

1044
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,240
To go for a walk, that's really
what's happening.

1045
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,800
She wants to go for a walk.
It's 4:00.

1046
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000
That's when we walk.
So bye everybody.