Creative Pet Care Tips (Part 1) | Weekly Pet Roundup

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What are we?
Talking about Welcome to the

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Weekly Pet Roundup.
I'm Isabel.

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That's Jessica.
And today we're talking about

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creative ways to save money in
pet care, my creative pet care

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ideas for when things get
expensive.

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We talked about tariffs last
week.

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We don't know how prices of pet
products are going to be

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impacted, but we suspect that
they are going to go up just

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because of the threat of tariffs
and cost of packaging and all

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that.
If you want to listen to that

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conversation, it was last week
and it is on the pet parenting

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resets feed.
There were a couple of issues at

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the beginning.
So just know that if you Fast

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forward a little bit, you should
get to a point where you can

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hear that I don't leave and come
back.

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So that was.
I think I edited all that when I

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posted it to the.
Did you?

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Podcast page.
You did 'cause I think I heard

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it.
On a SO.

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I got an yeah, I got an e-mail
to, I got an e-mail 'cause I'm

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on like this, like, you know,
podcast e-mail thing and ours

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came up.
So they like just like post

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random ones whenever.
And I guess because it's a

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trending topic, we got posted
and I listened to it at the

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beginning and I don't know that
we did edit it out.

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And I also.
Felt like can you?

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Hear like any movements I make a
little bit really.

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Loud, but it's not that bad.
I got to be more careful because

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I felt like I heard a lot of
like background noise on my end

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I think.
I I mean, I could hear a little

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bit, but it, it wasn't like
super distracting.

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I can go back though and I can
replace that audio.

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I maybe I select file or
something.

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It's not that we give a deal,
just fuss hurdle, but but yeah,

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so we were talking about how
things are inevitably going to

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get expensive and we all know
that things have been getting

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more expensive.
The economy obviously is what

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both candidates ran on in the
election.

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So obviously this is like not
new, but we are getting to a

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point where people have like,
you know, vacations coming up

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and maybe they want to add a pet
or maybe their pets getting

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older and they have to start
getting a little more creative

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about budget.
And so we wanted to talk about

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some fun ways or some creative
ways to meet your pet's needs.

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And I asked AII said provide
creative ways to save money on

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pet care.
And AI came up with a very long

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list of things.
And I thought it would be fun if

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we discussed each of these
things.

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And we're talking about dogs and
cats.

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That's what Jessica and I both
specialize in.

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So if you have other creatures,
I'm so sorry.

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We probably won't speak about
like how to take care of your

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aquarium on a budget or anything
like that.

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But we have no idea how you do
that.

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But we do know that dogs and
cats can be expensive.

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And so the first tip that it
gives us, and we hope

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everybody's having a good day
and if you have any tips or ways

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that you save, please comments,
we can add them to our

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discussion here.
But the first one it says is

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homemade toys.
Create toys from old shirts,

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socks or plastic bottles to keep
your pet entertained without

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breaking the bank.
So I first of all, don't want

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any dog chewing on bottles
because micro plastics.

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So let's like immediately take
that off of the table.

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I'm trying to reduce as much
plastic as I can in my life, in

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the world, just because I'm so
concerned about studies that are

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coming out with like plastic in
our, you know, autopsies showing

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that there's plastics in our
cells, in our tissues, in our

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organs.
And it's really bad.

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And it's obviously in our
environment, in our oceans, in

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the fish that we eat.
So I don't love that idea.

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An old T-shirt or sock.
I mean, I guess unless your

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dog's going to ingest that,
which could be very, very

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dangerous.
I mean, if you feel like a like

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an old sock with catnip, that
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But I'd be very careful with an
old raggedy like fabric anything

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shirt sock that can be adjusted.
I actually had to take a very

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long sock out of a dog's butt
when I was a dog Walker.

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What it was like this big?
Oh my gosh.

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He was big surprise, a Labrador,
a puppy, and he was just eating.

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He was just eating anything he
found and he was like struggling

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to get it out.
And I thought maybe it's like a

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little grass or something.
And I pulled and I pulled and I

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pulled with a poo bag around my
hand.

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I promise I did not.
I'm not that savage that I just

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went like pulled poo.
And it was a white athletic sock

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about size 11 men's.
I mean, honestly, you got so

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lucky.
I, I know, like veterinarians

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say, don't ever pull anything
out of your pet's butt.

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Because I just.
Have no idea, I know that's.

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Crazy.
I know, I know.

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It could have been really bad.
I didn't feel any like I didn't

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pull any hard.
I literally just went like

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little by little and I didn't
feel any stopping and I just

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genuinely didn't know what it
was until he pooped the rest of

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it out.
So I knew it wasn't like in any

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way entangled and I definitely
would have left it in there and

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rushed him to the vet had it
been, but it was like.

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Huge.
It was, it was like obviously

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digesting it went through the
whole process.

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So yeah.
What are your thoughts on

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homemade toys?
Yeah.

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I mean, I think, you know, it's,
it's like you said, kind of a

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double edged sword because I'm
gonna go on a tangent here.

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One of the things that I'm
learning about and I believe me,

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I'm not saying this because I'm
perfect.

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I am not, but it is one of my
goals over the next couple of

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years to to try to switch as
much as my wardrobe out to

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natural fabrics as possible.
Because even with most of our

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clothing, they are made from
plastics.

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So if you have like a polyester
shirt or something, it is also

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micro plastics.
So if we're worried about the

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bottle, we should also be
worried about the clothing.

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That said, you know, that's,
that's me being insanely

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nitpicky and I have in the past
years and years and years ago

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made like homemade toys out of
shirts and things like that.

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So like you can make rope toys
different, like you braid and

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tie them to where you know if
you have a dog that isn't a

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Labrador.
Isn't.

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Going to ingest it yeah I mean
it can be fun to play with.

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I also make, I have made snuffle
mats before with, you know, you

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just get big things of fabric
from, from my or Joanne's or

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wherever and like the kitchen
sink mats and that have the

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holes in them and make your own
snuffle mats.

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Those are actually really,
really popular videos that I've

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had on YouTube in the past.
And I mean, I, I think it's fun.

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I think it's, it gives you
something to do if you're bored

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and, you know, scrolling social
media and way too many hours in

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a day.
And it also makes you feel like

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you are doing something for your
pet, which is, you know, that's

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a really good feeling that that
we can get from whether it's

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cooking for them or making
something, a toy or something

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for them.
So like there's, it's more than

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just about the toy.
It's about, it's about doing

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something and showing you care
and, and putting your love into

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something that that you're doing
for your pet.

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So like, yeah, that's, that's
amazing.

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That's wonderful.
Keep, you know, doing that.

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There's also a lot of things you
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like enrichment boxes for dogs
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I, I, yeah, there's, there's a
lot.

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In fact, my stepmom, when I was
taking care of her cats a while

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back, she had like shoe boxes
that she had like half cut

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toilet paper rolls in and like
little pieces of tissue paper

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and treats sprinkled around.
And they loved it.

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They used it every single day.
So yeah, I mean, I think that's

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within reason, of course.
Just be careful of like Isabel

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said, you don't want anything
small enough that they can

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ingest and you just have to
really be aware of your pet and

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making sure you're not giving
them anything that's gonna

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that's gonna harm them.
Well, also you can just do nose

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work without having to do all
those things, just like hide

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treats around your house there.
Yeah, like you know what I mean?

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Yeah, and I, that's really good
for cats too.

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I have, well, they're, they're
back in Texas, but hunting

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feeders for my cats.
And it's one of the things that

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I don't, I don't use them near
as often as I should with my

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cats.
But like my cat Riley, who lost

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his sight after some brain
injury from a surgery that he

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had.
I, I was pretty religious and

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using the hunting feeders with
him because he, you know, he, he

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lost his sight and I wanted to
make sure I was providing some

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sort of enrichment for him.
And so it, he was definitely a

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little frustrated at first, but
he got used to him.

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And yeah, yeah.
I I feel like also new pet

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parents may think they need more
toys than they do.

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And I also feel like we need to
remind you that you don't need

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that many toys for your like.
What you need is to exercise

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them, interact with them, like
hide a treat behind each hand

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and make them choose like
there's your game.

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And like the way that it's like,
it's like having children and

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giving them an iPad, right?
Like, oh, that's parenting.

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Well, I mean it, it can be part
of parenting and like a toy can

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be part of pet parenting.
But the part that they really

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much more look forward to is the
part where you're interacting

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with them.
Even if you're watching a show

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and you're just like kind of
like holding a treat and letting

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them kind of sniff it out and
like slowly opening your hand,

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That is a game and it takes very
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The next one is homemade treats,
which I guess you could put in

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your hand and play with your dog
or your cat.

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Bake your own treats from
ingredients like peanut butter,

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oats or chicken.
Saving money compared to store

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bought options.
My kids eat peanut butter.

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I don't love it.
I know it's not super healthy.

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I don't actually give it to my
dogs.

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My cat probably licks peanut
butter every once in a while

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because he's like a he's an
eater so he'll like whatever he

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can get from the kids he'll eat.
But oats are fine.

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Like I've never really put oats
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related.
Chicken, of course, I do think

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is a really great thing to do.
You can dehydrate chicken.

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I mean, if there's a little bit
of an expense there, if you,

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especially if you have expensive
gas prices and you have a gas

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range that that's expensive.
And I like electrical bills.

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I have solar panels.
So maybe my like my cost

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wouldn't be so high, but I
haven't, I have a gas range and

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gas in this area is so expensive
that I wouldn't dehydrate

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chicken.
And obviously you don't want to

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do raw chicken because it's like
not very practical.

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So it depends on I for me, like
this one depends on like the

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ingredients, how long the shelf
life is going to be and how

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convenient it is to dispense.
Because like treats are not that

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expensive.
You can even get like really

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high quality treats and just use
them minimally for a pretty

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decent amount.
You just don't have to overdo

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it.
Like maybe you get a really high

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quality treat and do 1 treat a
day instead of three.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I, yeah, I like the idea

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of making treats as well.
And I think, you know,

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dehydrators are not very
expensive.

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They, you know, they're going to
use electricity, but not that

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much.
And what I do or what I used to

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do because I don't do it
anymore, when I would dehydrate

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things, I would dehydrate all
kinds of things.

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I would kind of plan to
dehydrate all kinds of things at

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one time, whether like I would
do some chicken hearts because

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they're really inexpensive at
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Beef liver, sometimes that one
is usually easier in the oven

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because it's so it has so much
moisture in it.

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But I mean, yeah, even like thin
strips of chicken, whatever and

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make.
You can also do non single

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ingredient treats so you can
have recipes of things that

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you're cooking in the oven.
That's totally fine.

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I'm not against that, especially
when we're using like fresh

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herbs and things that really
have a lot of wonderful

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properties to them for our dogs.
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and then portion them out and
freeze them so that when I would

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run out, I can just pull some
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So I wasn't like wasting
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I do look anything frozen, like
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You bought blueberries, you
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give them to your dog.
Those are frozen.

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I do feel like it's a really
good idea, especially now that

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it's going to start getting hot.
Yeah, yeah.

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just anything that has fat in

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it.
Like I just don't want it to sit

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in it.
So anything animal based really.

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I don't want it sitting in the
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So I'm going to freeze it.
And also so like even the oat

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based stuff, like or wheat based
stuff, people it like you see

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the recipes, a lot of my clients
like to put like a recipe and

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like their newsletters or
whatever.

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stored in an airtight container

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for up to a week.
And I'm like, in a humid

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environment, this is going to
get mold.

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Mold.
Yeah, like there's no and then

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maybe you don't see the mold
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Maybe it's early enough that the
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It's not like a science project,
but it's still there.

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So I'd be I'd be really cautious
about making too much, not

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storing it properly and making
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upset trying to save some money
and now you're spending more

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than that.
Yeah, absolutely.

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But generally speaking, yeah, I
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and can be, again, one of those
things, anything you do for your

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animal, I feel like it's very
nurturing.

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Yeah.
So there there's that added

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benefit to whatever you're
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And they enjoy the smell of it
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So they have like that that
excitement of like what's naked

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DIY grooming learn basic
grooming skills like brushing,

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bathing and nail trimming at
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grooming costs.
And I just had I just had

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Katrina on my show who is from
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name of her business.
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area and she was just on my
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week before.
And she and I talked about this

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like I asked her.
I was like, so how do you feel

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about she's a professional
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She does cats and dogs.
She does.

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She's very, you know, very
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I met her at Super Zoo and she's
very proud of like, you know,

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the trade and like doing it
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really taking care of the pets.
And so I asked her and she said,

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you know, by the time you invest
in all this stuff, it may.

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And if you're not really going
to do it right, like you say,

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oh, I'm going to start DIY and
then you order all this stuff on

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Amazon, like you may end up
spending more than you really

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needed to.
So especially bathing yes, but

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like like grooming and bathing
in nail trims, yes, could DIY no

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problem.
She was concerned about, you

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know, people investing so much
and like do it yourself haircuts

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for pets that they may not get
the bank for their or the

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savings that they're expecting.
I will say that I tried with my

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Maltese mix Baci very long time
ago to DIY and I was very bad at

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it.
So I think it's also like a

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personal thing.
I have a friend Diane who cuts

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her Schnoodles hair and it looks
she looks cute all the time but

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I just didn't have like the
patience or like this and like

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my dog was easy so it's not like
she fought me or anything.

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But I don't think that DIY
grooming is for everybody in

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every case.
Yeah, well, and it's funny

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because I, I put up at the
beginning of the pandemic, I put

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up videos on DIY grooming at
home and they were very popular

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as well.
And I, I was very clear that I'm

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not a professional groomer,
right?

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And I actually had a groomer
comment and, and tell me like,

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this is great.
I would just maybe do this or

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this or that.
You know, it was, it was kind of

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really, really cool for her to
say it.

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And it was silly things that I
didn't think about, like don't

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use the scissors until after
you've bathed them because it

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can dull the scissors and you
know, things like that.

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So like, I'm like, I'm very
clearly not a professional.

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I'm just trying to help people
who are stuck in there.

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And also exactly.
The priority wasn't really the

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groom, it was just like, yeah,
you couldn't get into the

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groomer so you had to do it
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Right.
Yeah, but I still tend to stay

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in Groom Kim myself.
And she is not one of those dogs

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that she's not a poodle or
whatever.

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It's like it has to have this
perfect, like round shaped

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whatever.
Like I'm not doing that.

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And no, I can't do that either.
Like it's not gonna look good.

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Yeah, I think that's like a
little bit like unrealistic to

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expect of like somebody who
hasn't gone through any kind of

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grooming training to do that.
Yeah, I know.

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Yeah, I was.
Mine was really bad though.

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Mine was like short here along
here like it looked like ship

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and hacked.
See, I do that.

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I do that with my cat Riley,
because he won't sit still.

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He's just moving around.
And I'm like, I'm trying to get

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to, I'm just trying to get the
mats off of him like because I

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brush him a lot, but he just
because he's he's blind, he

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doesn't have, I try so hard.
He's not grooming himself, he's

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not engaging.
He sleeps a lot, He doesn't.

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I try really hard to to engage
him and he's just the older he

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gets, the less interested he is.
So he's very sedentary and it

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almost doesn't matter how much I
brush him like he gets mats.

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So I do generally like I have in
the past, if I have somebody

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help me, it like if I had my
husband help me and hold him, I

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could do a pretty decent lions
cut on him.

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It wasn't perfect, but it was
like, give it, give it a week

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after I did it.
And then it was kind of halfway

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cute, right?
But just me doing it.

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No, it's like I'm I've
butchered, but I'm getting the

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mats out.
And that's the important thing

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for me.
Like I don't care what he looks

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like as long as one, I'm not
hurting him, 2, the mats aren't

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getting worse and hurting him.
And then, you know, he's he,

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he's good.
Like I don't care.

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He's not going into any shows.
I think it's a little like it

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depends a lot on the pet's hair
too.

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Like, you know, people with
doodles are known for like

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neglecting their their doodles
hair and trying to do it too

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late.
And that's when even a

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professional runs into trouble.
So you definitely don't want to

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start too late.
So like if you were to start

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DIY, maybe you take them to the
professional groomer and before

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they even need their next groom,
you start kind of doing it

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yourself where you haven't let
it get to that point where it's

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like a mess because only a
professional groomer really

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knows what to do at that point.
And some of them will even tell

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you.
I've had a few groomers on my

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show who are like.
I will say like I can't do

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anything like this.
This dog, mostly cats, this cat

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needs has a pelt now and this
cat needs to be sedated and it

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needs to be removed by a
veterinarian.

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So that is something you as a
pet parent who doesn't know the

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difference between like a mat
and pelts, right?

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Like you don't want to get in
there and like find that you're

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hurting your pet.
And then now the DIY turned into

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so you do it how often?
Like and you're, I know you're

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super disciplined, but like how
often are you doing it?

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Yeah, I mean for Kim and I
actually, so I'm I'm extra.

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So she has she is a mixed breed
and the very first time I tried

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to groom her, I found her
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She has this mane around her
neck where her undercoat is

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completely Pomeranian.
So I actually in this like area

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around her neck and shoulders.
I actually, I have thinning

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shears that I take and thin that
out so that her hair lay is a

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little bit nicer.
And I probably do that maybe

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maybe quarterly, maybe like
seasonally.

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OK, just kind of keep it under
control.

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Like, yeah, it's it's not bad at
all.

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I will take the shears not on
the lowest setting.

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I'm very careful about not, you
know, I, I have never nicked

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her, but I, I will kind of clean
up her back end maybe closer to

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once a month just because if she
does get diarrhea like it is,

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it's messy.
And so I try to keep that area a

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little cleaner to just to make
it easier if I do have to clean

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her up.
And then I am, I've been really

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bad.
I used to trim her nails every

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two weeks and now I'm doing it
like once a month because it's

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just me now and it's so hard.
It's so hard to do it by myself.

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But I will say, going back to
the nail trims specifically, I

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was terrified.
I was absolutely terrified to

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trim my dog's nails when I first
started doing it.

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Like I literally took them to
the vet every two weeks and had

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their nails trimmed.
And when the pandemic hit and I

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couldn't do that anymore, I'm
like, I've got to figure this

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out.
So I went online.

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It was like $100.00.
So I realized this isn't like in

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everybody's budget and I have no
idea what it costs now, but

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Doctor Busby BUZBY has an online
course showing you how to trim

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dogs nails and it's pretty
extensive.

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And she goes through, you know,
translucent nails and black

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nails and all the things.
And I mean, I've evolved what I

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do with Kim since taking that
course, but it helped me so much

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and gave me confidence to at
least try.

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And so I actually do the regular
like clip trimmer on her nails

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and and now I go back after that
with a Dremel, A Dremel tool.

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I find that she isn't patient
enough for me to a 100% do the

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Dremel, but if I'm only doing
the Clipper they're just too

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sharp.
Sorry I left you for I left you

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for a second.
I'm hearing us like on

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Instagram, unfortunately.
And I'm trying to make it so

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that it sounds better for
whomever is listening.

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But yeah, I agree with you.
I was terrified and I still am

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terrified.
I had big, big dogs from, you

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know, the the first dogs I got
with my ex were two big dogs and

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like their nails were just like,
yeah, so I wouldn't do it

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myself.
And then now I still don't do it

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my my husband does our cat's
nails and I mean, I can do it

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but like I feel like he's just
quicker at it and whatever.

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It just doesn't seem like a way
a way I want to spend my time.

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But I definitely don't DIY
either One of my pets grooming.

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I mean, Kira is a short haired
dog who sheds a lot and we've

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had her bathed every month and
it's a lot of money.

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It really does get expensive.
And then now that Satchmo's

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here, he needs, he needs
haircuts.

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He's a long haired dog.
He's a schnauzer mix.

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And dude, it's like 230 a month,
$230 a month for both of them

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together.
Yeah.

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So like what we've been doing
instead of DIY ING is just kind

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of extending between.
We were doing it once a month.

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Now we're doing it like maybe
every six weeks, every seven

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weeks.
It sucks because obviously my

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house is dirtier, but it's more
budget friendly and we're still

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supporting the business in our
own way.

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And, like, Satchmo just had his
teeth done his, like, a dental

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cleaning at the vet.
And I asked her to, like, trim

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all of his beard so we could get
a fresh beard going.

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And he looked so funny for so
long because he was under when

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she did it.
So she was able to get real

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close.
Yeah.

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But it does get nasty under
there.

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And, like, he's the kind of dog
that pees on his leg when he

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lifts it.
Wow.

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So it's gross.
And so, like, I like to keep him

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real trim.
Like he does not have a

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schnauzer cut.
Yeah.

444
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,480
Well, yeah.
I mean, you've got to be

445
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,880
practical.
I mean, I'm sure there are

446
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520
people out there that want their
dogs to look a certain way no

447
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960
matter what.
But like for me and for you, I'm

448
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,520
sure you've got to be practical
If they're going to like pee on

449
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,360
themselves, you got to be able
to clean them easily,

450
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,200
frequently.
Dude, he stinks.

451
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,800
I mean, the reason he went to
get the teeth cleaning is

452
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,560
because he's his teeth stunk and
it has made a huge difference.

453
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,200
But he still kind of stinks
because of.

454
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,520
So I mean, going to six every
six weeks has been a sacrifice

455
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,160
on my part.
But we actually use some like

456
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,080
dry shampoo that I got at one of
these events that I went to and

457
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,560
it's like a natural dry shampoo
kind of thing.

458
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,600
And it does help a little bit.
Like it really does like it

459
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240
doesn't smell much, but it just
kind of absorbs the scent of the

460
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,040
pee.
So that's our thoughts on DIY

461
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,000
grooming.
OK, bulk buying, bulk buying.

462
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,640
I think it's a really good idea.
I actually, it says buy pet food

463
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,440
supplies and even some
medications in bulk when

464
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,840
possible, especially if you have
a if you have the storage space.

465
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,760
So like I do have storage space.
Unfortunately, my storage space

466
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,400
is being utilized because we
have so much junk and I complain

467
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,840
about all the time, but like
literally I donate things on a

468
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,840
daily basis and I still have
stuff.

469
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,480
And that just tells you how
consumerist my family is and how

470
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
consumerist I've been at some
point.

471
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520
So it's, I'm not blaming it
fully on them, but like I have

472
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800
little kids who like just have
junk given to them constantly.

473
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,240
But I do like the idea of bulk
buying pet food.

474
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,360
And I used to do that with, and
this stopped, but for a long

475
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:25,920
time.
Oh my gosh, Doctor Judy Morgan's

476
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,240
website, her, her shop had like
20% off the whole site.

477
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,240
And I was doing green juju at
the time and they included green

478
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,000
juju.
So I would buy like multiple

479
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720
bags of green juju at 20.
Percent, yeah.

480
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,040
So definitely did that.
I don't believe it's happened

481
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,800
for a long time and I've had the
food that I got from that like

482
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,680
shopping spree that I want.
So I just use that that food as

483
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,000
a Topper.
So I I don't buy it that often,

484
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440
but I was getting boxes full of
Doctor Judy Morgan, you know,

485
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,520
shipment from from them.
So I do like that.

486
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,000
I just feel like most bulk
buying opportunities are like

487
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Costco and Sam's and like the
quality is just not there.

488
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,920
So I wouldn't do that.
I'd rather, I'd rather not.

489
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Yeah.
The The thing is I tend to bulk

490
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,080
buy.
I will wait for like annual

491
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,920
sales for more shelf stable
things.

492
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:31,800
So for Luger, for example, they
have a thankful Thursday sale

493
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,720
instead of like a Black Friday
sale.

494
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000
They do a thankful Thursday, I
think it is.

495
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,200
And so and their shampoo, like a
bottle of their shampoo for me

496
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:47,360
lasts for forever.
So like I'll buy 3, which isn't

497
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360
a ton, but it's going to that's
going to last me like I mean

498
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,720
years.
I don't have to do that every

499
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520
year.
And then like Coco therapy,

500
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920
coconut oil, that stuff is shelf
stable.

501
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480
It lasts forever.
So anytime they have a, you

502
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,880
know, whatever their big sale of
the year is crude carnivore,

503
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,360
which honestly, going back to
making treats at home, you can

504
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,400
make your own bone broth at home
too, much less expensive.

505
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960
As long as you have the freezer
space for it.

506
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Then please, you know, that's
amazing.

507
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Do that.
But yeah, with crew Carnivore

508
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440
has their anniversary sale.
I will stock up on their stuff.

509
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080
And yeah, I would stock up on
frozen stuff as well.

510
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Previously when I had the
storage space.

511
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,960
Currently I don't.
So I'm not stocking up on on

512
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,200
anything frozen.
But I, you know, if you shop at

513
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,280
your indie pet stores, most of
them are going to have some sort

514
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520
of loyalty program.
And I actually, I, I, those

515
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,400
store I shop out now has 2.
So I have the like Astro

516
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,000
loyalty, which is a nationwide
thing that a lot of brands, a

517
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,720
lot of brands participate in.
So like I buy 12 goats milks and

518
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000
then I get the 14th one for free
kind of thing.

519
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,440
And then the store itself has
loyalty rewards where you spend

520
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,720
X number of dollars and you get
X number of dollars back to, you

521
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,160
know, use on your next purchase.
So like those are things to,

522
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,680
again, incentives to shop local
at your local indie pet stores.

523
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,000
So take advantage of those
things and yeah, figure out the

524
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240
things you love that you cannot
live without.

525
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,840
And if they are shelf stable,
stock up whenever they do their

526
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,880
their annual whatever the
biggest sale of the year is.

527
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Yep, for sure.
And also remember that you can

528
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960
reach out to the companies and
ask them, are you having a sale

529
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,480
anytime soon or how long is the
shelf life on this before I

530
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040
place an order?
So don't don't be shy, like be

531
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,360
strategic and like reach out,
especially if it's a small

532
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,440
brand, they'll be happy to
answer your questions and they

533
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,480
might give you if like if
they're not having a sale, they

534
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080
might give you a, you know,
coupon code just for reaching

535
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,200
out.
So we'll see.

536
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040
Absolutely it does.
The the next one is actually

537
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
utilize pet store loyalty
programs.

538
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,320
So I agree with that.
And the big box stores do it

539
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,720
too.
Like I've gone to, you know,

540
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
PetSmart for like stuff for like
the cat.

541
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Like when we first got the cat,
we just went to a PetSmart and

542
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,480
bought like litter boxes and
things like that.

543
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240
And before I knew it, I had
like, you know, $10 to use

544
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,240
towards something else and I
went and like bought cat food or

545
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160
whatever.
So everybody does those these

546
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880
days.
And honestly, like, if I don't

547
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400
get like some kind of reward, I,
I stop buying there.

548
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Like, I'm like, I want a
freebie.

549
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,560
I like a freebie.
I buy Redmond's like electrolyte

550
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,600
mix, the salts, Redmond, the
really great brand.

551
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360
And like, they send me texts
being like, you have $10 to

552
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200
spend.
And I'm like, oh, OK, I'm gonna

553
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280
send that.
So it works for them as well.

554
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,240
Let's see what's the next one.
Discount stores.

555
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Check discount stores for pet
supplies like beds, bowls and

556
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,240
toys, which may be available at
significant discounts.

557
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,240
I say don't do this.
Yeah, Because what you're going

558
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,560
to get at a discount store,
which I'm assuming they're

559
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360
talking about like a like a
dollar store, Like I don't know,

560
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,640
Like I don't know what they're
talking about.

561
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400
It depends on the store.
So like HomeGoods maybe?

562
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Yes.
Maybe.

563
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Yeah, I mean.
Sometimes they have.

564
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Decent brands, yeah, but like
dollar store, No, please don't

565
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,400
do that.
You're going to get stuff that's

566
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000
covered in toxins, that's
plastic, that is not good for

567
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880
your pet that may maybe is
covered in lead too.

568
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Like there's this guy I follow
now on social media that's like

569
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160
the lead guy or something.
And he like goes into, he

570
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,840
recently went into HomeGoods
actually.

571
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,680
And like every single plate said
he tried, he puts like his

572
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,280
little dye on it tested positive
for lead.

573
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600
And then apparently like years
ago, I just discovered him, but

574
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,760
he's been around for a while.
Years ago he went to IKEA and

575
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040
there was stuff with lead.
And then this year I think he

576
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,880
went to IKEA and they've done
better.

577
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,240
So like if you have an IKEA near
you, they have some good pet

578
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,160
products that that might help.
That might be and IKEA does a

579
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,560
good job of like VOC's and
things like that for bedding.

580
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,560
So I do, I prefer that to like
Amazon, but I don't know, I just

581
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
I wouldn't discount buy because
sometimes I feel like when we

582
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,480
think we're saving money, we
spend more anyway.

583
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
We've talked about this a lot
when it's like, do we need this

584
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
right?
Does the bet, does the pet

585
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
really need another bed or is my
pet right now?

586
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,960
And I'm speaking from
experience.

587
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Sachimo has two beds in my
bedroom right now.

588
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,320
Why?
Like, why does he need 2?

589
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Like Kira has one big one, the
big Barker bed that that is for

590
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720
her.
And then he has like this like

591
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,000
little watermelon cushion and
then like a cat bed that like he

592
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,040
took over and I'm like, why?
And like it's in the way it's

593
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,920
dirty.
And I'm just looking at it like

594
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120
next time I remember, I'm just
going to toss this in the trash.

595
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,720
Like I don't need this.
And if I were to be like not

596
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,640
thinking about it, I might even
replace it, right?

597
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,160
Like I might be like, oh, we
need a new bed.

598
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,640
No, we don't.
We don't need this one.

599
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
We don't need a new one.
So just if you have to resort to

600
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:59,640
like deals and steals, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, the

601
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,080
literally the only thing I've
ever purchased at the Dollar

602
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Tree from their pet section are
the cat nail trimmers.

603
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120
That's a good one.
That's a good. 1.

604
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Because those do, yeah, like
they're cheap, so they get kind

605
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,560
of like off center and like they
get dull pretty quickly.

606
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,960
Yeah, I've actually had the ones
I've had for like 6 years and

607
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,639
there's they still work fine.
From the dollar store, from the

608
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080
I'm sure they're the same ones
you buy at the.

609
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,760
They have like literally the
same thing.

610
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400
They look exactly the same.
They look exactly like

611
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
literally, they look exactly
like the ones the veterinarian

612
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,360
uses.
Yeah, and they might get them at

613
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,080
the dollar store too.
The next one I do, I'm a big fan

614
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040
of used or refurbished items, so
consider buying gently used pet

615
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,159
supplies or exploring
refurbished options to save

616
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,040
money.
I'm part of a very, very special

617
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,199
bi muffin group here in El Paso.
We're on the West side.

618
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,159
And I mean, let me tell you,
people give away and I've given

619
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,800
away amazing stuff.
You lose a pet like it's

620
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,520
perfectly, you know, it's
perfectly good bowls and

621
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,480
perfectly good, you know,
harnesses and you don't have A

622
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,040
use for it anymore.
And I've always handed those off

623
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,320
like the collar was always
harder for you to do.

624
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,320
So I would keep collars like
Christmas collars.

625
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,280
I still have everybody's
Christmas collars, but

626
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,560
everything else I was like, it's
time for it to pass it on.

627
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,520
And like these things are in
really good shape.

628
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,080
So I have a box houses actually
that I have for the for the

629
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,000
shelter where like I was given a
bunch of stuff like enrichment

630
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,160
toys is what they they put out a
call for enrichment toys and I

631
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,720
have a bunch that were given to
me and I'm not really utilizing

632
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:38,400
and like I want to use them
mostly when I travel.

633
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,320
So I leave them ready for the
pet sitter And like we only need

634
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
so many.
Like we have 3 pets.

635
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,080
We only need so many.
We don't need like 8.

636
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,800
So I, I literally kept like 3 or
4 and I'm, you know, donating

637
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,320
the rest and I'm giving it
parts.

638
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,280
In my case, I'm giving it to the
shelter.

639
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
But like in the past, if the
shelter hadn't put that call

640
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,840
out, I would have just put it on
the buy nothing group.

641
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,560
And in order to, to, to go into
a buy nothing group, all you

642
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,760
have to do is live in that area.
So they'll check with you your

643
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,040
address.
You do have to provide your

644
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,720
address or street number or
whatever, or street address at

645
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,920
least.
And they'll let you in.

646
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,400
And if you're in a good one, you
can get a lot of amazing stuff.

647
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,800
Sometimes it's competitive.
So they have like one set of

648
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,360
bowls and like 20 people want
it.

649
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,040
But you can't.
You could get lucky sometimes.

650
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,920
So I like it.
I like I like the buy nothing

651
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,400
concept.
Yeah, I do too.

652
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,960
And tell me that you put up a
special tree that you put all of

653
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,360
your dogs Christmas collars on.
I don't.

654
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,520
I actually decorate, I decorate.
What I do is I have my pet, my

655
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640
all the pets that have passed
away are on a shelf in my family

656
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,200
room and they each have a frame
that my mother-in-law sends

657
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,920
whenever one of them passes.
And I have a photo from my

658
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640
friend Jeannie Taylor, who
photographed all my pets that I

659
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,800
put in those frames.
And I just hang their Christmas

660
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,400
collars on those photo frames
every year.

661
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,400
That's so sweet.
I know I thought about a but

662
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,240
like socks was big, so it needs
to be a big tree because she had

663
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,120
like a big collar Titan kind of
too.

664
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520
But yeah, that's that's, you
know, something to do.

665
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,040
I mean, you can you can, you can
also ask me for Christmas

666
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,560
collars and I'll probably send
it your way because, I mean,

667
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,360
it's been long enough.
I feel like now that I can

668
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,040
probably part with them.
Yeah, yeah, I know.

669
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,080
I was, when I was starting to
clean up back home, I came

670
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,960
across some stuff like that and
I'm like, I think, I think I

671
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,040
might be ready to donate some of
this.

672
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Stuff because it's like.
Really nice, good condition, but

673
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,360
you know, I've just been folding
off.

674
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,320
And you, you really have to wait
until you're ready to pass it

675
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
on.
And then you as the receiver

676
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,720
have to honor what you got.
One of the things that I really

677
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:57,880
like is to see, I think I gave
one of because Titan had two

678
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,760
Christmas collars.
I gave one to my friend Debbie

679
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,320
and like she did send me a
picture of her dog in it for

680
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Christmas.
So you know, we, we actually the

681
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,600
best gift my mother-in-law ever
gave me was sending me for

682
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Christmas or it wasn't for me,
it was for the dogs, but she

683
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
sent each one of them a
Christmas collar when we had

684
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,240
four.
So Kira wears her Christmas

685
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,120
collar every year.
Every other dog, like December

686
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,600
1st, we would change the collar
like early January and change it

687
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,280
back.
And I've always said that it was

688
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
like the best gift ever because
it was so like it was so

689
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,520
perfect.
They each had their own.

690
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,040
It was wonderful.
And it's, you know, it's

691
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,720
something that once you're ready
to pass on, it still has a ton

692
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,360
of life in it because we've only
used it one month out of the

693
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,000
year.
So.

694
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Yeah, OK, let's see.
I don't I want to talk about

695
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,360
anything veterinary related
because I feel like we could do

696
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360
a Part 2 about how to save money
in veterinary care because

697
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,920
there's so many.
But I do like this one.

698
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:08,760
This one's an interesting one.
And I do feel like that one has

699
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,280
legs or paws, whatever you want
to say.

700
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Because I feel like, for
example, like we're both

701
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,120
affiliates with CBD dog health
with a 2 crazy cat ladies.

702
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Like when I need some kind of
cat product, that's where I go

703
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,840
to two crazy cat ladies.
When I any CBD that I buy of any

704
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,720
sort is going to be from CBD Dog
health.

705
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:32,400
So like it makes sense for me
to, you know, become an

706
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,280
affiliate.
I get I keep in touch with the

707
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,360
company more.
Also I feel like I learned more

708
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,720
about their promos that way.
But also, like, if people ask

709
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:44,440
you if like you're the the
friend who like has all the

710
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
answers on pet stuff, then it
would make total sense to be

711
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,160
like, Oh yeah, I'll send you the
link.

712
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Yeah, absolutely.
And send the link.

713
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Don't be shy.
Like don't be shy.

714
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Don't be like, Oh yeah, don't
give the name.

715
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,480
Just be like, I'll send you the
link.

716
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Yeah.
And then you send the link and

717
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520
keep the links in like your
notes, right?

718
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,880
Like I'm an iPhone user.
So like, go to your notes and

719
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,040
just put all your links in
there.

720
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,560
And then you'll be like, oh,
give me your number, I'll send

721
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,080
you the link.
And in like 2 seconds, you've

722
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,240
sent them a link.
They purchased the name.

723
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:14,160
I made like 12. $12.00 last week
from Green Line Pet Supply.

724
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,720
Nice, nice. $12.00 I didn't have
right and it's a product I use

725
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:23,160
all the time and I know the
owner and like I love the owner

726
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,200
and I love the business model
and I love the concept and I'm

727
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,160
super happy to make a little
Commission, but helping her grow

728
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,320
her business.
Yeah, well, yeah, you were

729
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,880
talking about them.
Well, you talk about them a lot,

730
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360
but around Earth Day, I'm sure
that was a.

731
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,760
That I posted it on my personal
Facebook page being like, hey

732
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,760
guys, if you're looking to do
something for Earth Day, they're

733
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,720
having a promo.
So like a lot of these places,

734
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,040
the good thing is like, it's not
a hard sell because the people

735
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,000
that purchase from that link
save 20% from the retail price,

736
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,840
right?
So they got a deal and I got

737
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,240
$12.00.
So the only one who really made

738
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,920
less money was the company
itself.

739
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280
But like we spread the word, we,
we share the wealth and like I

740
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,120
shared it on my personal page
where I have like 2500 friends

741
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,120
and two people purchased.
So if you are just like a pet

742
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,320
parent who's passionate about
pet care, why can't you do that

743
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,640
on your Facebook page every so
often?

744
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Of course.
You can.

745
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,880
It's.
Like a side.

746
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Gig.
Yeah, and side gigs are a good

747
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,840
thing.
They are.

748
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,360
Yeah.
No, I think affiliate programs

749
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,480
are great.
And I mean, there are some

750
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,240
companies that require you to
have a business ID, but not all

751
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080
of them.
I've never run into that, no cuz

752
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,040
I don't do many I'll be honest.
And I do have an Amazon

753
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,840
affiliate but I think I just
used my Social Security number

754
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,040
when I set that up.
It doesn't go very well for me

755
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,360
on Amazon at all.
And I don't know why because

756
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,080
I've literally sent an affiliate
link to my mom and she'll buy

757
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160
the product and then I don't get
a Commission.

758
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,840
So I'm like.
I know.

759
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,000
That's crazy.
Yeah, I think Amazon is a little

760
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,400
well any Amazon probably has
like the smallest percentage out

761
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,240
of any company, yes and as well
they.

762
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,960
Probably have like a lot of red
tape, like where if like they,

763
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,240
they clicked it and they didn't
like buy and then like maybe

764
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:09,680
they clicked it and bought it
once, then like they can't use

765
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,600
anything else again.
Like they can't buy anything

766
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,680
from you again.
I don't know.

767
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
But they, I think they they make
it so that they're not giving

768
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,960
too much away.
Yeah, well, they they all, well

769
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,960
it's supposed to have like a, I
don't remember 30, I mean 30 a

770
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960
30 day cookie is is pretty
typical.

771
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,680
But like for every new in the
space, right?

772
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,440
It should be for every new
product or no?

773
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,320
Well, it's yeah, anytime you,
anytime they click a link of

774
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,560
yours, it's a it should be a 30
day cookie.

775
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,960
But also anything else they have
in their cars that they

776
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,240
purchase, you're supposed to get
Commission on that too.

777
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,640
But my, my question would be 1.
I mean, maybe they're just not

778
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,120
being honest.
Like that's a thing and then

779
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,480
there's such a huge company.
But then also like me, if she

780
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,680
has something else in her cart
that somebody else had sent her

781
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,120
a link for, if that would
override it.

782
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,760
I don't know, doesn't know
anything about links and doesn't

783
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,200
really follow influencers.
So I'm pretty sure I'm like, mom

784
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,960
use this link and she's like,
why?

785
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,320
So yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

786
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,480
I don't know.
I don't know.

787
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,800
That's a good one.
I mean I make money off of

788
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,280
Amazon every month but.
OK.

789
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080
So we don't have a lot of time
and this one's going to take us

790
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,680
a good amount of time.
So this is look for free or

791
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,880
discounted services.
Many shelters and clinics offer

792
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,120
free and discounted services for
different things, whether it's

793
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,040
spaying, neutering,
microchipping and other

794
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680
services.
And I don't want to focus on the

795
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,920
spaying, neutering or
microchipping because I would

796
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,520
like to talk about those things
next week.

797
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,440
But I want to talk about
services as in like dog walking,

798
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:51,080
pet sitting, boarding, because
these companies and if you don't

799
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,400
know me at all, you don't know
this, but I was a professional

800
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,800
pet sitter for 12 years.
I had a multiple 6 figure

801
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,480
business with 20 employees in
the DC area from 2008 to 2020.

802
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,880
When we all know what happened.
I had to close my business

803
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,080
because I was no longer in my
service area and didn't want to

804
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,480
go back.
But anyway, that's the, the

805
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520
quick version.
So I'm, but I'm still very much

806
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,920
involved in the industry of pet
sitting dog walking, pet care

807
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,440
industry in home pet care.
And I'm still pretty adjacent to

808
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,240
like boarding and stuff.
And these companies, whether it

809
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:26,440
be like a really established
company like mine was or a newer

810
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,680
smaller company, or like a solo
pet sitter who's like been doing

811
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,720
this for 25 years, but they
don't have a staff.

812
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,440
It's just that the margins are
very, very, very small.

813
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,960
So to ask for discounted
services to me is an absolute no

814
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,320
go.
If you cannot afford their

815
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,320
services, do not find something
else.

816
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,560
But also, nobody's, nobody
should be pet sitting for you

817
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,720
for free.
And I'll tell you why, because

818
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,720
pet sitting is a huge
responsibility.

819
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,880
They have access to your home,
your pet, all your things, your

820
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,040
house.
And there's just too many risks

821
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,640
for somebody to take that on.
So if anybody's willing to take

822
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,960
that on either, they're
desperate, like they don't have

823
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,880
a place to live.
Like maybe they're between

824
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,400
houses and they're like, hey,
this is a good negotiation for

825
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,000
both of us.
I'll stay with your pet.

826
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,120
You let me stay in your house.
If you trust them enough, they

827
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080
might be a good fit for you.
But somebody was just like,

828
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,240
yeah, I love pets.
I'm going to stay with them.

829
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:27,680
Like they may not show up.
They may bring strangers into

830
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,720
the home.
They may lose your pet.

831
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:34,840
So definitely never look for
free pet care in your home, free

832
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,920
boarding in their home like they
may, you know, what if your pet

833
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,800
like, pees all over their rug?
What if your pet bites their

834
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,360
couch?
Like, do you have an

835
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,360
understanding on who's
responsible for that?

836
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Because if you have a
professional pet sitter, they

837
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,760
have insurance to cover that.
So their insurance covers it.

838
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,280
You don't have to pay for it.
It's all good.

839
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,320
But you paid for the care, but
you don't have to pay for the

840
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
damage.
If you go to a friend's house

841
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,000
and you're like, here's my dog
and the dog does a terrible

842
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,600
thing.
Now you're on the hook to pay

843
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,920
for that.
I would hope you would do the

844
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,640
right thing and pay for it.
But that's something that

845
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,720
obviously might ruin your
friendship, might cause some

846
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,920
stress financially.
So like free and discounted pet

847
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,120
care always is like a really big
red flag for me.

848
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,320
But because we're talking about
getting creative, I do think

849
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
that there are situations where
you could do something like an

850
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,880
exchange with a friend who, you
know, is a really dedicated pet

851
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,640
parent, you know, but that
doesn't happen overnight.

852
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Like that would be something
that I would do, like where you

853
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,080
did play dates together and your
dogs or cats got to know each

854
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,080
other, where maybe you did like
drop off your dog for the day

855
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,440
while you go somewhere to make
sure that it's that it works.

856
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,480
You would have some say in, you
know, like make sure that your

857
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:53,000
yard is safe or like asking
questions about like, you know,

858
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,000
what is your pet vaccinated?
Is the, you know, if you're of a

859
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,360
puppy and you're bringing them
in, like what are the risks to

860
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840
my dogs?
Those kinds of questions you

861
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,240
should be able to ask because
you guys are doing it for each

862
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,680
other.
So it has to be like really on

863
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,360
the up and up, I would say.
But I do think there's a world

864
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,920
where like you and I, like
Jessica, if we lived in the same

865
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,400
place, like I would be happy to
come over and like pet sit your

866
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,760
pets and I would immediately
trust you with mine because I

867
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,960
know that the level of care
would be the same.

868
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,440
But like, I mean, I was, I
shared custody of my dogs with

869
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,840
their dad.
This was in my previous

870
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,640
relationship.
And I didn't feel safe dropping

871
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,240
them off.
Yeah, because they would jump

872
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,160
the fence.
They would jump the fence at his

873
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,480
house.
And so it was a legal agreement

874
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,960
where we shared custody of the
dogs.

875
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,480
And so when I traveled, I would
drop them off.

876
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,040
And if he traveled, he would
drop them off to me.

877
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,200
And we would have like back and
forth.

878
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,440
And I was like primary caregiver
and he paid for their insurance.

879
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,920
That was like the legal thing
that, that we agreed to.

880
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,400
But every time that I dropped
them off, especially when Socks

881
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
was young, I would get a call
being like, we found your dog

882
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,040
And I would be like, they're,
well, they're not at my house.

883
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,400
Let me call, you know, whomever.
So it really has to be somebody

884
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,960
that you align with as like as,
as, as a pet, a pet person.

885
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:25,280
If I, if I, if you have to, you
know, you move somewhere, you

886
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,000
don't know anybody.
I wouldn't just be like, oh, do

887
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,400
you mind taking care of my pet?
Which I know a lot of people do.

888
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,040
And like in the military, people
ask for favors like that all the

889
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,560
time.
And it just boggles my mind

890
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,960
because like, you're giving
access to your pet to your home

891
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440
to a stranger and like, just
because they live on post or

892
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,760
they live in your neighborhood
doesn't make them automatically

893
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,160
like a good choice.
I would say better than to just

894
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,120
leave your pet with just anybody
is shorten your trip and get a

895
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,720
pet sitter, right?
Like maybe you don't need to be

896
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:55,840
gone for two weeks.
Maybe you need to be gone for

897
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,000
five days if that's all you can
afford as far as pet sitting.

898
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,840
And just definitely make sure
that you guys discuss all the

899
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,120
details of if my pet damages
something, what are we going to

900
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,160
do?
And like in my house versus your

901
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,600
house?
Like, what if our dogs get in a

902
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,200
fight?
Yeah, right.

903
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,920
Like when you board your dog at
a boarding facility, they have

904
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,520
insurance that will cover your
dog if your dog is injured in

905
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,640
that facility.
If I take my dog to Jessica's

906
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,120
house and the two dogs fight,
who covers the cost?

907
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,360
Right.
Yeah.

908
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,680
Do we know who started it?
Are we going to really nitpick

909
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,240
that?
Are we going to go 5050?

910
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,960
Are we going to, you know, is
does my dog have a bite history?

911
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,840
And so am I automatically going
to agree to pay?

912
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Like, those questions have to be
asked and those things need to

913
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,200
be discussed because I do think,
like I said, it could work, but

914
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,200
everything has to be done
really, like, really mindfully.

915
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,880
I wouldn't drop my kid off for a
week at anybody's house without

916
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,320
asking a ton of questions.
Without even with my, like, my,

917
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,600
my in laws haven't taken care of
my kids overnight.

918
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,640
My mom refuses to take care of
my kids overnight.

919
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,480
She's like, that's too long.
I mean, my mom, my mom is not

920
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,880
like your nurturing grandmother
type that wants to like, take

921
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,080
care of them all the time.
Like, she loves them and they,

922
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,240
like, they adore her.
But she's more like, I make them

923
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:24,600
dinner, we go out like, we have
good time.

924
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,840
And then like, it's time for you
to fight with them to get them

925
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,880
to bed.
Like, I'm not doing that.

926
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Yeah, so think about like, if I
were to be like mom, take care

927
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,680
of my pets, I would never.
Like, she's my mother, she

928
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,600
raised me.
I know she's a super competent

929
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,480
person, but I just wouldn't
because she's not.

930
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,080
It's not for her.
Like she doesn't want to do

931
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,800
this.
Yeah.

932
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,440
So if I were to drop off my kids
at somebody'd house, like I

933
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,600
would be like what, you know,
what do you want money for food?

934
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,640
Do you like do you want like how
often should I call?

935
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Like what happened?
Like if they break anything,

936
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,320
please let me know.
I'll replace it.

937
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,400
Like and they're children that
you could be like you better be

938
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,840
on your best behavior.
You can't say that to your pets.

939
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,720
No, no.
You're literally dropping them

940
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:09,280
off being like I'm abandoning
you now have right and that

941
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680
they're going to be like they
have might have colitis all over

942
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,680
the rug.
They might like throw up.

943
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,800
They might choose something out
of like, you know, just like the

944
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,760
nerves of being in a new
environment.

945
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Like all of that could go very,
very wrong.

946
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,680
Absolutely.
And I mean, this is 1 very much

947
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,120
an agreement with everything you
said.

948
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,960
This is absolutely one, a place
where I would not skimp.

949
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,520
I just, I just would not.
And I mean, I, I, I realize like

950
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,560
I have, and I know I've said
this before and we've talked

951
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,760
about this before, like I have
seen so many posts where people

952
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,720
are posting in the neighborhood
group like, oh, I'm going out of

953
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,760
town next week.
I need somebody to watch my dog.

954
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Like first of all, I will never
book travel unless I already

955
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,760
have pet care established
period, end of story.

956
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,920
And if in this has happened to
me twice now.

957
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:10,240
If I book travel having pet care
established and sometime between

958
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:17,000
my booking and my departure they
cancel or try to change the days

959
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,840
I freak.
The heck.

960
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,520
I'm like cancel the trip.
Find somebody you know, like

961
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,360
this is not like, oh we'll
figure it out.

962
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,240
This is serious.
This is your pets lives.

963
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,840
Yes, in the 12 years that I ran
my business, we only had to

964
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,480
cancel on one client.
And it was because they were

965
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,560
like at the end of our service
area and the person that was

966
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,880
their pet sitter who had
committed to it was automatic.

967
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Like out of nowhere, her family
was relocated by the, I think

968
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,520
she, I think they were ice and
they were just like

969
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,800
automatically relocated and that
she could not.

970
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,080
And like, I wasn't in town, so I
couldn't do it.

971
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,800
I would have just done it.
I would have driven like the 40

972
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,480
miles every three times a day I
would have.

973
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,720
But like, I finally had to be
like, I'm so sorry.

974
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,400
Like we have exhausted every
option and I had 20 staff

975
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,200
members to choose from and
nobody could do it.

976
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,440
And it was truly like so
heartbreaking and like I know

977
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
that they hated us for it, but I
had to do it.

978
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,680
And I know that I think there's
such a wrench in there and

979
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,560
wrench in there like plans in
their travel stress them out.

980
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,440
It felt awful.
But like we genuinely couldn't

981
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,760
do it.
It was like 2 months before.

982
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,600
So it's not like we like waited
till the last minute.

983
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,200
But that's why you want to also
think about booking a business

984
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,320
with either employees where they
have backups like they like.

985
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,920
In my business, we had an
assistant manager, we had two,

986
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,360
we had a general manager me and
we had an operations manager,

987
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Beth.
And so like until I moved away,

988
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,920
you had three managers that
could back up the employees.

989
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,720
Once I moved away, it was 2.
And then within each group we

990
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:57,880
had buddy it which in each
service area we had buddies.

991
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,400
So like if and Allison couldn't
make it, then you know, Sherry

992
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,840
would go in her place and they
would back each other up and

993
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,640
they both had keys to the same
client.

994
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,840
So they could like work as a
team.

995
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,880
I know that there are individual
pet sitters that work on their

996
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,040
own.
Like they have their own

997
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,520
business.
They're the only ones who, but

998
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,440
they have another individual pet
sitter that they network with

999
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,200
that if something were to happen
to them, they're like, hey, like

1000
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,080
I know the perfect example is
like in Houston, there's these

1001
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,400
two that are like best friends
and they pet sit for each other.

1002
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,280
So like Scott travels, Bobby
takes care of his pets, and then

1003
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,000
Scott has something going on,
Bobby takes care of his pet,

1004
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,320
like his clients pets too.
And so the same thing happens

1005
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,680
when Bobby goes and like they
both travel all the time because

1006
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,800
they have this support system.
So when you are hiring a pet

1007
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,360
sitter or a friend or anybody,
you have to think about what

1008
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,480
happens if this person, the
person who's in front of me

1009
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,160
saying yes, I'll be there, get
sick, gets in a car accident,

1010
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
has an emergency where like
their mother is sick and now

1011
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,760
they have to fly out of town.
Heaven forbid.

1012
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,880
Like life happens no matter what
you're doing and what your pet

1013
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,480
needs, like life is going to
happen.

1014
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,800
So always asking like, what
happens if something like

1015
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560
there's an emergency and maybe
like their spouse can step in,

1016
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,240
right?
Like if you, if it's like, if

1017
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,720
it's friends, you could be like,
oh, you know, like, hey, you

1018
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:21,960
know, Jessica, if something
happens to me, like Chris will

1019
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,720
step in or whatever, or like
that'd be fine, right?

1020
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,680
Because Chris is pretty.
I mean, he's not this level, but

1021
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,640
like he's, he's capable, right?
Yeah.

1022
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,560
But like in the case of like 2
single friends, like who steps

1023
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,800
in, right?
Like, yeah, two single women,

1024
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,880
one of them, like they like back
each other up, but like they're

1025
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,200
friends from work.
What happens if one of them like

1026
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,600
ends up really, really sick?
Appendicitis happens like the

1027
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,360
other ones in like Europe being
like, Oh my God, my cat's still

1028
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080
waiting to be seen today.
So that's one of those things

1029
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,160
that I agree with you.
Like, we can get creative and

1030
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,960
minimize in other places, but
finding a reputable pet sitter,

1031
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,040
pet care provider is so
important.

1032
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,640
And honestly, it the only place
I would skimp is dog walking.

1033
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Like so basically your dog
doesn't get walked midday but

1034
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,160
you like rush home and walk them
yourself?

1035
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,520
If like that's your reality,
then that's your reality.

1036
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,240
Or do you take them for a really
long walk before you go to work

1037
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:23,000
so that they're tired and maybe,
you know, let them drink a

1038
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,360
little bit of water and like
fill the bowl that where they

1039
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,000
don't drink an excessive amount.
Kind of be more strategic about

1040
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,480
that.
And you could probably save

1041
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,760
money on a dog Walker instead of
doing it five days a week, maybe

1042
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,600
you do it twice a week and your
dog gets that break and that

1043
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,200
great thing.
But it's, you know, it doesn't

1044
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,120
break the bank.
But when you're traveling,

1045
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,040
you're literally outside of the
area.

1046
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:43,480
I would not take it.
I would not.

1047
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,760
I would not.
Yeah, it's scary to me.

1048
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,520
It's scary.
Yeah.

1049
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,320
I don't.
I just can't.

1050
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,760
I can't wrap my head around that
mindset of somebody who's like,

1051
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
I'm leaving tomorrow and I need
somebody to watch my animal.

1052
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,360
Those people will end up on
Wagon Rover, and I will say that

1053
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Wagon Rover are technology
companies that connect you with

1054
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,480
pet care providers.
They do not vet the person who's

1055
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,960
coming to your house.
They do not background check

1056
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,080
them.
They can pay for a background

1057
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,320
check to be listed on their
profile and they get like a

1058
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
little badge or something that
they've done that, but that

1059
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,960
could have been done a year ago
and something has changed on

1060
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,000
their background and you
wouldn't be the wiser.

1061
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,200
As a professional Pet City
business owner, I would

1062
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,000
background check my my staff
constantly and I would do it.

1063
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,080
I would check credit scores.
I would check everything because

1064
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,600
I didn't want to send somebody
who was like loan they ever had

1065
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,920
into your home where they might
be tempted to steal.

1066
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,080
So like I checked everything.
They also do not cover any.

1067
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,240
They don't provide any kind of
insurance for you for the pet or

1068
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,360
for the pet care provider.
So if you are going through a

1069
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,200
wag, you basically it's mostly
dog walks and you're just kind

1070
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,360
of hoping that the person who
has access to your house is like

1071
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,280
a decent person.
They've had they've had

1072
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,680
situations where they lost pets.
That's just wag.

1073
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,800
They lost pets, they abused
pets.

1074
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Obviously they've had situations
where people steal.

1075
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,120
I mean, bad people are over
there everywhere.

1076
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,320
And I'm like, you're telling me
that I can get access to

1077
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,080
people's homes by say I'm going
to walk their dog?

1078
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,280
That sounds amazing.
Like you know what I mean?

1079
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Like I vetted people and I still
had like issues where like I had

1080
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,040
somebody who was like
potentially high on the job and

1081
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,760
I had to be like, I need to get
all your keys right now, right?

1082
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:41,600
And I was a manager, Yeah.
Like see like in the same area,

1083
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,280
not a technology company like in
Seattle managing like managing

1084
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,520
something in whomever, wherever
else.

1085
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,320
And then Rover is different in
the.

1086
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Well, it's the same in the sense
that it's a technology company.

1087
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,920
It's like a, it's like a, it's
like a search engine for pet

1088
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,480
care providers.
They do not vet anybody who

1089
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,360
lists themselves on there.
They none of these people work

1090
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,320
for these brands.
They are just listed as it's

1091
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,880
like an Uber.
Yeah, exactly.

1092
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,440
So, Rover.
Will not only do pet sitting in

1093
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,400
your home, they will also do
boarding.

1094
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,200
So like I could, I could list
myself on Rover and take your

1095
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,040
dog or your cat into my home.
There is no way for Rover to

1096
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,400
know if they're, if the pets
that exist there are aggressive,

1097
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,000
if your pets going to get hurt.
There's no way for people for

1098
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Rover to know if those people
are just trying to make money

1099
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120
and will not feed your pet for a
week that you're gone.

1100
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,960
And that's happened.
It's happened where pets die,

1101
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,040
get lost, are abused.
It's just it's not a pretty

1102
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,760
thing and it happens all the
time.

1103
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,320
And in Rover and Wags defense,
they never promised anything to

1104
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,760
these pet parents, but the pet
parent assumed that when they

1105
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,240
hired Rover, they were hiring
somebody like my company and

1106
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,880
they are not.
So it's really like what I think

1107
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,200
it is.
It's false advertising in a in a

1108
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,520
way, because the consumer is
kind of not educated enough to

1109
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,200
recognize the difference, but
it's also on the consumer to

1110
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,120
know.
So that's why I'm so passionate

1111
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,480
about educating people about the
difference between a

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01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,360
professional pet sitting
business versus Wag Rover or any

1113
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,760
kind of like thing you might
find on.

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Online, the only search engines
that I recommend are PSI Pet

1115
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,960
Sitters International and
National Association of

1116
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,920
Professional Pet Sitters.
Those are the two places that

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,960
are professional pet sitters
with businesses whether they're

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,560
one person or 20 or 885.
I mean, there are, there are 7

1119
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:40,440
figure pet sitting businesses in
major metropolitan areas and

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,880
they're all listed there and
they're all members of these

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,640
organizations that like have
like codes of ethics, they have

1122
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,800
minimum standards, they have
insurance.

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,760
All of these people are legit.
And so again, that's NAPS, the

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,080
National Association of
Professional Pet Sitters and PSI

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Pet Sitters International.
And actually the president of

1126
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,960
PSI Beth is going to be on my
show on Thursday.

1127
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,520
Oh nice.
Yes, totally.

1128
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,360
I'm related to this.
We're gonna just talk about like

1129
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,280
the state of the pet sitting
industry and pets and things

1130
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,720
like that.
And just like catch up.

1131
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,000
And if you have any questions
about pet sitting or one of the

1132
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,160
things that I find is it's tough
in certain areas to find a

1133
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,840
professional pet sitter.
So if you are in those areas, I

1134
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,920
really do feel for you because
it's almost like the only option

1135
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,120
you have is Rover because like
why won't go to those areas, but

1136
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280
you know, you might find
somebody on Rover and be like,

1137
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,600
well, that's my only choice.
And when you, if you are in that

1138
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,360
position, you just need to know
what answer, what questions to

1139
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,520
ask.
And so that's one, one of the

1140
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,160
things that I often do when I
have a pet sitter, professional

1141
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,800
pet sitter on my show is ask
them like, what questions should

1142
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,080
pet parents be asked and what
red flags and what green flags?

1143
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,840
I think I might play a game
about red flags and green flags.

1144
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Nice.
Yeah.

1145
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,000
I have interviewed some people
that I'm like, wow, how do you

1146
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:07,760
get through life?
But yeah, no, yeah, again, this

1147
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,800
is 1 area I definitely would not
try to skimp on.

1148
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,880
I just could not imagine, just
like with a child like you said,

1149
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,560
I could not imagine just being
like leaving your child at home,

1150
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,400
opening up an app and saying
here's the code to my door, come

1151
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,680
and check on my child in a few
hours.

1152
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,760
You know what I mean?
Like thought of it that way

1153
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,160
which I mean.
You would think I would have

1154
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,160
thought of it that way, but that
sounds that sounds illegal,

1155
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,720
right?
Like they the government should

1156
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,160
not allow that type of service
to even exist because of how

1157
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,600
dangerous that could become.
Like, you just got a bunch of

1158
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,160
pedophiles coming into your
home.

1159
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Why are we, why?
Why do we not, like, worry

1160
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,560
about, well, animal abusers and
thieves coming into homes,

1161
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,720
property.
There's no real liability.

1162
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,360
Yeah.
It's like it's like opening the

1163
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,560
door to a cleaning.
Lady, the same.

1164
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,840
It's the equivalence in, in the
eyes of, you know, the

1165
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,160
government or whatever.
But yeah, I would never, I mean,

1166
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,440
as a parent to two children who
can speak and tell me how it

1167
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,440
went.
I can only leave them in the

1168
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,640
care of anybody, like I Yeah,
and they can tell you everything

1169
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,880
and they can they.
Can tell me if it went well if

1170
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,200
they?
Were mean if they yelled like

1171
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,720
one of my kids doesn't like this
particular like place that has

1172
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,080
great like a kids night out on
every Saturday.

1173
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,480
They do like a parents night out
and it's like fun for the kids.

1174
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,120
My daughter loves it, my son
hates it.

1175
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,000
And why he can tell me like they
every time I do anything, they

1176
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,160
like, yell at me and like they
love Mila, Mila, cuz Mila goes

1177
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,200
there for gymnastics.
So like she knows all the

1178
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,000
coaches and blah, blah, blah.
So she's like the everybody like

1179
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,000
loves her.
And like he feels like the ugly

1180
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,520
stepchild and he's like, I hate
it there.

1181
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,200
And So what do we do?
We don't take him there.

1182
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,080
Yeah, because he doesn't like
it.

1183
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,640
And because if I went out that
night, I would be worried about,

1184
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,440
like, no one getting into
trouble or, like, acting out

1185
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,640
because he didn't feel
comfortable.

1186
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,080
And he's 7.
He's able to speak his mind and

1187
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,520
very well.
My God.

1188
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,160
And like, Kira, Kira would just
cower in the corner and, like,

1189
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,120
whine until I picked her up.
Poor thing.

1190
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Yeah.
Kira, you keep farting, man.

1191
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:16,000
Kira's been.
Farting this whole show, God

1192
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
cheat.
I don't know.

1193
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,160
Hi Brooke, I'm sorry I didn't
see you until now.

1194
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,200
Thank you for joining Brooke on
Facebook.

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,280
She's one of my friends.
She's a professional pet sitter

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,760
in Houston.
If you need a professional pet

1197
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,560
sitter in Houston, I'm going to
shout her out.

1198
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Animal admiration.
She has the biggest pet sitting

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01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,600
dog walking business in West
Houston.

1200
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:46,560
She serves Katie Full Share,
Cypress and I forget what else.

1201
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:51,480
So one of those Katie Cypress
full Share and why can't I

1202
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,760
remember the other one?
But anyway, she is awesome.

1203
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,960
And like, she runs a tight ship,
I'll tell you that.

1204
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,360
She is very, very involved.
Nice.

1205
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,920
Yeah.
All right.

1206
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,880
So we're going to continue this
with.

1207
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,480
Saving on vet care next week.
Yes.

1208
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,680
OK, creative.
Ways creative on vet care and

1209
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,000
one of the things I want to
discuss and we'll, you know, do

1210
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:19,960
our research before is these
like like virtual medicine

1211
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,080
places that now are available
and what our thoughts are on

1212
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,320
like the limitations, whether
they really save money, that

1213
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,960
kind of stuff.
I feel like there's a big

1214
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,480
conversation to have and it's
actually I'll be answering my

1215
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,840
own questions because I haven't
looked into it.

1216
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,480
I've seen some, you know, ads
for like a vet, like a virtual

1217
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,280
vet Med service and I use that
with my kids.

1218
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,160
Actually, I have a blueberry
Pediatrics.

1219
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,800
I have like one of these things
where I, if I can't get into the

1220
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,240
to the pediatrician, I will, you
know, upload their picture and

1221
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,960
give them their their vitals and
they can send in prescriptions

1222
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,040
or whatever.
But I haven't really looked at

1223
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,400
it for bat Med and it would be a
good conversation to have.

1224
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,960
Yeah, let's do it.
All right.

1225
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,160
Well, thank you guys for.
Joining us, thank you so much.

1226
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,560
We really appreciate you.
Guys for being here and I'm

1227
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,040
looking forward to seeing you
next week.

1228
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:12,000
Bye bye.