Creative Pet Care Tips: Veterinary Care | Weekly Pet Roundup

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OK, I didn't even have to try
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Welcome back back to the weekly
Cut roundup.

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I said what you said.
This is your.

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This is your.
Yeah, you're doing great.

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Welcome back to the week we've
had Roundup.

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I'm Jessica with the pet
parenting reset.

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This is Isabel with covered in
pet hair.

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She's amazing, She's wonderful.
And we are continuing our

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conversation this week on
creative pet care tips.

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And if I remember correctly,
last week we used AI to help us

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figure out some creative ways to
save some money but also

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continue to take care of our
pets.

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So this week we are kind of
rolling that into veterinary

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care.
Yes.

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So how we save money, when we've
been talking, it's kind of been

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like, I mean, we're like
financial analysts now.

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We are.
Yeah, we've been talking about,

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we've been talking about the
economy on the pet, the weekly

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pet Roundup for three weeks now.
This is our third week in a row

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that we talked about the
economy, and we all know, you

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know, that there are a lot of
reasons why right now people are

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concerned about the economy.
I was just invited to speak by

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an organization in the pet world
about, you know, business owners

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in the pet world having concerns
about costs going up and people

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not booking and things like
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So it's not just here at the,
you know, in the weekly pet

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roundup that people are
concerned about money.

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Everybody's concerned about
money right now for many, many

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reasons.
I will apologize in advance if

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my Internet is not great.
Today we are having a dust storm

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so.
Another dust storm.

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Yeah.
So this has been the, I've been

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in El Paso for eight weeks this
year, 88 years this week, eight

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years this week, it feels like 8
weeks, but it's been 8 years and

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this week feels like 8 years.
But I have never seen the number

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of dust storms that we're having
like in.

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I think that when we moved here
in May, we had just missed like

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a bad dust storm season and we
have not had one since.

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So this is the first one in
those eight years that I've

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seen.
And dust storms suck.

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It's just wind and dust
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The air quality is bad to
breathe.

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There's literal dust everywhere.
You can't wear sandals without

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having to come home and, like,
clean your feet immediately.

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You feel like you're covered in
dust.

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My kids smell like dust when
they come home.

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Yeah.
It's like we still have to stay

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inside even though it's a
gorgeous day otherwise.

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Like we have to stay inside
because it's so dusty.

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And it's like you can't really
even see the mountains.

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Like I have a view of a mountain
of the Franklin Mountains from

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my house.
They're right there.

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Like they're not far.
I have an entrance to a hiking

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trail across the street from my
house and you can't see them.

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You can't see the mountains
because it's so dusty.

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And it's like, I think it's
combined with like the the

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drought in California and in
Mexico with all of that dust.

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When the wind comes, we always
have wind, but now we have wind

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and dust.
So anyway, so if my Internet is

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spotty, that is probably why.
I also want to say that, yeah,

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we are going to focus on
veterinary care.

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And like one of the things that
we always talk about is just

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kind of making sure that you
actually need to go to the vet

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before going to spend that
money.

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So that is obviously understood
like trying to monitor your pet

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at home, journaling about
whatever issues you're observing

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before going to the vet so that
you're not going in and out of

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the vet paying for tests.
You can actually go with some

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information.
And that obviously only applies

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when it's a non-emergency.
If it's an emergency, I'm so

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sorry you have to go to the vet
immediately.

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But when your dog is, you're
noticing something like my dog

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has reflux and you know,
sometimes she goes for weeks

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with nothing.
And then we start noticing it

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again and kind of start thinking
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Have we changed any food?
Is there something different is

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in the in the environment, like
what's going on?

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And so before I run to the vet,
I try to observe, take a beat,

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try, you know, some kind of home
remedy, maybe fasting if it's an

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upset stomach, something like
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And then I go the vet and I know
you do the same thing.

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You do a lot of home stuff.
And so today's focus is going to

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be on when you know you've done
whatever you can at home and

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you're looking to save money
when you know you have to go to

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the vet.
So this isn't about like home

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remedies.
This is about the options that

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exist right now and what happens
when you're faced with like a

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big bill that you are thinking
of not taking your pet to the

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vet only because you can't cover
that bill.

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Because, I mean, we want to make
sure that anybody who wants

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veterinary care for their pet,
who needs it, knows where to

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find it.
So we may not have every answer

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for every jurisdiction, every
city, every state, but at least

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we'll get the conversation
started and maybe give you some

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ideas.
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Well, and I think just to kind

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of really reiterate some of the
things you said is that one of

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the things I noticed is it, I
mean, so many people that I

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talked to, they're going to the
vet for things that I would

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never tell them to go to the vet
for.

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And then people are not wanting
to go to the vet for things.

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It's like, Oh my gosh, get to
the vet now.

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Right.
Like there's this disconnect

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with what should we go to the
vet for and what shouldn't we go

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to the vet for?
And I, I think these are

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generally two different people.
Yes, generally, not all the

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time, but they're definitely.
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Like, if your dog is generally
healthy and they get diarrhea

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for a day or two, that is not
cause to go to the vet unless

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we're talking about like, a
newborn puppy or something.

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Like, yeah, that's serious.
But a generally healthy adult

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dog or even cat like you, you
get an upset stomach sometimes

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too and you don't rush to the
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So there are definitely things
that we don't need to rush to

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the vet for.
And then there are things that

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we do need to rush to the vet
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And just knowing the difference.
And I know we previously talked

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about just because we are
bringing up the whole like, if

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it's an emergency, you, you have
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I'm sorry, you have to go.
And one of the things I know

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we've talked about before,
because I had Jonathan Weinberg

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on my podcast from Care Credit,
is that there are there are

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things out there that you can
rely on.

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And I know you've talked in the
past about there are, you know,

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services that help people to get
their pets medical attention

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when they don't have the funds
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And I think, you know, care
credit, yes, you're, you're

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going to have to pay that back,
But that's kind of in that world

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as well.
Because a lot of times honestly,

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like in the, I probably had my
care credit card and this is not

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an advertisement for them by any
means, But like, I'm not making

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any money on off of, off of
talking to you about this.

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I think I've had mine for like
maybe 10 years.

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And I don't think I have ever
charged on that card where there

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wasn't something, some, some
like promotion going on where

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it's like 0% interest for six
months or 12 months or what I

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said.
Like I, that's how I, I use it.

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I use it as interest free money
for like I put all of my vet

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related expenses on it period,
hands down, because they always

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have a promotion going on.
And then I take the six months

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to pay it because why am I going
to pay the veterinarian $400.00

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upfront out of my bank account
versus paying care credit $100 a

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month?
And I'm not paying any interest

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on that, right?
Like it's just, it makes

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economic sense for sure to to do
that.

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So long as, yeah, so long as
you're responsibly paying it

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back, which I think that's where
people get caught up is that

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they forget that they have to
pay it.

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And it's not like you get 6
months without any payments.

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You still have to make payments.
It's just not accruing interest.

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And yeah, I love, you know, a 0
by a zero interest deal or

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offer.
I love them.

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I think they're, I think they're
so helpful.

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And I actually, I have a client
who has a professional pet

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sitting business, dog walking,
pet sitting dog training.

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And they take care credit.
So it's not just for, it's not

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just if you have, if you have a
pet care provider that doesn't

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accept it, talk to them about
potentially adding it because my

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client did just add it this
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And I thought it was so smart.
Like, yeah, like you have, you

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know, like you heaven forbid you
have a surgery where you can't

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walk your dog and you need dog
walking services like falling

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back on care credit for that
would be so helpful while you

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recover.
Or heaven forbid, you know, your

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your parent is sick.
Or, you know, I think about all

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the people that used to hire us
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I had family who, who, who the
25 year old owner of the dogs

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got cancer, leukemia and had to
go to like Washington state.

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And thinking about them a lot
recently, weirdly, but they had

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to go to Washington State for
like a, an experimental

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treatment kind of thing.
And so they had to hire us.

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And like, they were pretty
wealthy.

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They lived in a beautiful huge
house, whatever.

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But like, I'm thinking about
like a family who's already

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paying for some kind of cancer
treatment or a surgery, a huge

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deductible.
You've had an accident and are

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in the hospital and like you're
kind of desperate and you have

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this care credit card that you
can just call somebody to be

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like, just charged my card and
go walk my dog or yeah,

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whatever.
You know, it's, it's, it's, it

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is something to have like I
don't have a care credit card.

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And like, we're about to have to
go back to the vet now with

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Kira's teeth.
And like when you do teeth and

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she's 14, so we have to do all
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We are vet kind of thought maybe
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where her teeth weren't so bad,
but we're noticing that they are

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really red now all of a sudden
or just because I was not there

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when the vet was visited so
things were missed.

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So like we're going to go back
and I'm like, why would I like

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you said, take money out of my
bank account to pay for this

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when I could potentially get a
deal on something and pay for it

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slowly.
It's almost like the firm

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payments you do online and like
those kinds of things that are

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really helpful.
Like sometimes you need

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something today and it's not in
your budget, right?

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Like it's just not in the budget
for the month and you're like,

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OK, but instead of the $200, I
can pay $50 three like 4 times

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and that'll be helpful.
So I do, I love that we're

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starting with care credit
because if you have decent or

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good credit, it should be
something that as a pet parent,

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maybe you just have, maybe you
just have.

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And again, this is not sponsored
at all.

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None of the stuff that we talked
about is sponsored.

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This this show has never been
sponsored once.

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But we can definitely change
that for the right.

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Change that we can, definitely.
Change that for the right

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product.
Yeah, and I have to say, like I

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even remember when I recorded
with him, like I said, this is

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I'm not here trying to sell you
this product.

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Like I'm not making money off of
this, but I legitimately am

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thankful to have this product,
even though it is a credit card,

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which like you know, any I don't
know financial, I don't know,

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like they're always going to
tell you they're.

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Financial like us like yes, I
tell you be careful, be very.

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And you do have to be careful
with credit cards.

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But what I like I one of and
this is one of the things I

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learned from my my last husband
racking them up.

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Anyway, I have to laugh about
it, right?

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I just have to because that's
that's what I have to do.

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Is it like don't spend your
money if you don't have to.

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I'm going to spend somebody
else's money and not pay

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interest on it.
Like, why would I not do that?

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Yeah, why would I not do that?
And right now, we're talking to

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people who are struggling
financially.

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We're not talking to people who
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Like, I mean, I'm not worried
about like, creative ways to

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save money on pet care.
They bought their dog for 10.

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$1000 right?
Like surprisingly, surprisingly,

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I have found Kim is driving me
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I'm sorry, guys, Surprisingly, I
have found a lot of times those

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are the people, yes, they're
going to spend the money on

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veterinary care in the world.
They are not going to be

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spending the money on the right
food, not going to be spending

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the money on the big rumor.
Like, I don't know what this is,

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and I'm sorry if you're
listening to this and I'm

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calling you out, but like,
you're going to spend 10 grand,

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yes.
People are the the more they

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mind their money like I, I feel
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That's that's.
Just kind of happens and when

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they don't then you find like
these like athletes and like

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musicians that like blew
everything in like a year,

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right?
You know what I mean?

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So like there is, I mean, I
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professionals in the DC area who
had these amazing multi

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$1,000,000 homes.
I mean, there was one client of

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mine that had a boxwood maze in
the front of her house in the

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middle of Fairfax County in a
federal Manor house that was to

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die for.
And like, they had one dog and

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like, I just would sleep over
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And it was like, I would have
paid them to stay there.

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But I also had people who lived
in like townhomes who were very

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frugal and had like, you know,
their, their amazing careers and

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just lived in a small house and
maybe spent the money on things

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that mattered, like having a dog
Walker every day.

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So you never know.
But like the person who's tuning

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in to this topic is like, times
are tough.

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I want to have something.
And like when times are tough,

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having something like care
credit, again, not sponsored is

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helpful because it's something
to fall back on.

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You can have this open, this
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It's like a line of credit open
without a balance just so that

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you have it when you need it.
My mom, you know, it's that that

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is a funny thing is my mom's a
banker and I don't think she'll

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mind me sharing this.
But when my parents got

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divorced, my mom was making like
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She's a banker now, but at the
time she was not.

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I was a teenager and she had
this car that she refinanced

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like 3 times in order to make
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So like was it a good financial
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No.
Did she need a car?

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Yes right.
So like it was that is one of

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those things that like it's not
about making the good financial

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decision for the short term.
It's surviving, it's helping

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your pet.
It's it's your pet ate something

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and it needs to come out now,
not when you save the money,

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right.
So we'll talk about too like I

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will.
I mean, AI helped us last week,

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but AI is helping us again this
week because I wanted to start

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off with these online bets.
And obviously when you take out

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the overhead of a veterinary
practice, you take out the face

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to face visit, you usually can
save some money.

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And I use something like that.
I mean, there's a bunch of them

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for veterinary telehealth, but I
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I use something called Blueberry
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I think the first year I paid
$120.00 for the year and they

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sent me like the little
pulsometer.

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They sent me like a little like
the little thing to look in the

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ears.
They're planning for whatever

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like viruses little kids get.
So like they want you to be able

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to look in the ears and the
nose.

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They want you to take the pulse
and a thermometer, right.

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So like they, they send me all
that and that was $120.00

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including all that kit for the
year.

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And then like I think I renew
for like $99 every year.

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And I just, and I added my
sister's son while he was here

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because he got like a virus.
And like they let me add this

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third child at no additional
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And a doctor like you put in,
it's an app where you put in

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like the picture, like my kids
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So you take a picture of the eye
and you send them the what their

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temperature, their pulse and
like whether they have any other

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symptoms, they get the picture,
they look at it, they call the

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pharmacy.
You never saw a doctor, you

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never left.
And then they can provide like a

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like a doctor's note for the
kids.

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So to me, it's like $120.00 a
year, $100 a year is invaluable

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because that saves me the time
of calling the the doctor, going

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to the doctor, taking them out
when they're already sick into

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the community.
All that stuff is so worth it.

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So I'm already a believer when
it comes to my kids.

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It doesn't replace like if my
kid breaks his leg, I'm not

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calling Blueberry Pediatric.
I hope not I'm.

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Going straight to the ER, but
like it's one of those things

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where like, like you mentioned,
like the the the kitten or the

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puppy who's constantly having
diarrhea, you know, like send a

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picture of it and see what the
vet has to say.

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So I really like those first
people who maybe have a puppy or

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a kitten where or their new pet
parents where they may not know

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how to gauge the severity of
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I think that's I got Blueberry
Pediatrics during the pandemic

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when Mila was born.
So I wasn't a new mom.

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I was a second time mom, but
obviously I was navigating a

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totally different world and I
couldn't get into the doctor and

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I didn't really want to take my
baby to the doctor and all that.

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And so when you are kind of a
new pet parent or you're

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navigating some kind of
challenges where maybe you work

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so much that you can't take the
day off to go to the vet, you

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can maybe take send a picture
and then the doctor calls you.

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Like, it's not like a FaceTime.
But in the case of Blueberry

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Pediatrics, the doctor calls
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So you are speaking to somebody
and they're asking you questions

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and they're asking for
follow-ups and they message you

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in the app again, being like,
you know, how like 24 hours

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later, like, how's the eye
looking?

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You know, when did you start the
drops, blah, blah, blah.

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And if you can get that for your
pet and they're able to call in

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a prescription, that's when it
gets a little hairy though,

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because a lot of prescriptions,
they'll have to call a vet near

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you for that prescription.
So I don't know how that works.

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Like most of the veterinary
specific medications are going

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to be dispensed by a vet.
So like I've never used that.

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So that would be my only like
concern about that.

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Yeah.
I mean, I think if, if, if it's

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being used kind of the way you
described where you're not like

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maybe it's something that they
can help you with over zoom or

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through photographs and video or
they're kind of helping you

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navigate.
Like, is this serious enough

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that you actually need to go
into an office and have

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something?
Because I think the big

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differentiating factor between
pets and children.

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And, and I guess it, it also
depends on like how young your

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child is, but you know, a pet is
never going to be able to say

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this hurts.
I don't feel well, my eye is

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stinging.
Like they can't tell you like my

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eyes dry or it's stinging or
like there's an acute paint.

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You know what I mean?
Like they're they can't tell you

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those things.
And so having a veterinary

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professional put their hands on
your animal.

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In some cases is invaluable.
Well, in this case, it's all for

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acute stuff.
So this is stuff that is visible

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to the eye.
This is not to replace your

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annual veterinary visit.
This does not change that your

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senior needs to go to the vet
twice a year.

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This is just your pet started,
you know, like having diarrhea

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24 hours ago and it's still
there.

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Or your pet got like a bug bite
outside and you're like, does

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this need to be seen by a vet?
My dog Titan got a spider bite

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and you know, within three days
it was like necrotic, right?

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But like that first 24 hours, I
just ignored it.

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I, I didn't talk to a person, I
didn't photograph it, I didn't

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do anything.
And three hours, three days

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later, it was like necrotic.
So obviously that went to, to a

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vet and he had to get laser and
all sorts of stuff.

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And but had I had maybe like a
telehealth day 2 when it was

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still looking kind of not
terrible, but not great.

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I could have called there and I
maybe could have saved some of

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that like necrosis from
happening, right.

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And I was like, there are so
many things in veterinary care

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and in children because I mean,
having I started this when Mila

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was a brand new baby during a
pandemic, there are so many,

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many things that you see are
different.

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They're different.
Like this poop has mucus in it,

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right?
Like are you going to make an

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appointment and spend $80.00 to
see to and then and then you get

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there and like the dog no has
like a bowel movement that looks

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like pristine, like a poop emoji
on the vet floor.

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And you're like, well, that's
just, that's a waste of time and

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money.
So there are things that like

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you really don't want to go to
the vet for.

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And like I said, this is really
only something I would recommend

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for people who are newer to pet
parenting or have puppies and

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kittens where they do, they have
an immature immune system.

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They do tend to get things more
often, especially diarrhea.

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Like if I think about when Titan
came home to me, he was four

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months old.
How much money I spent on the

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vet as a new dog mom like I
would have made, I would have

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saved so much having something
like this.

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I even took Titan to the vet
when he was licking himself too

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much and like he was like a
teenage dog licking himself and

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he would get like his lipstick
and I was like flipped out that

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he had something wrong with him.
So I took him to the

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veterinarian for an erection
guys.

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I love you.
Like, would I do that now?

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I'd be like, stop licking, move
on with your life, right?

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Like that's what I would do now.
But like, I was new to this

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whole gig.
And so I think that's where like

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this is perfect.
If your dog has something

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chronic, this is not going to
work and they're even going to

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tell you themselves.
There needs to be a that

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involved you.
Like I was surprised with my,

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like with my experiences with
Blueberry where like they would

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even call in sometimes.
Like it was kind of like I

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would, I was expecting them to
be like, you need to take them

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to the doctor, but they would
like say, OK, we're going to try

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this for 24 hours.
If the fever is not down, you

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have to go to the doctor.
They'll they'll, they would work

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with me in that sense and
usually was better within 24

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hours.
But I imagine these are actual

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veterinarians.
So they are and obviously

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there's the liability issues.
So, you know, they're going to

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be like I that if your dog is
limping and, you know, cannot

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support themselves on that foot,
you need to go to the vet.

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Like there's not a video or a
photo that's going to help me

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diagnose that unless I touch it.
And I will say dogs break their

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toes.
I had a dog who broke her toe at

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six months and like, we waited
for three hours, like 3 hours.

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She would just like sit there
whining and like before bedtime.

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I was like, this isn't getting
better.

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And I had no clue that she had
broken anything.

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She kind of walked in limping a
little bit.

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We were concerned about, like, a
spider or a snake bite because

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she had just been out in the
dark in the yard and, you know,

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at 11 O clock at night, I had to
take her in to the emergency vet

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only to find out that she had
broken the toe.

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And, like, the dumbest way, just
like coming up the stairs.

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So, like those kinds of things.
Yeah, you can't do that unless

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you go and they need to, like,
touch the toe and see what toe

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and get the X-ray.
And she got a cast, too.

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Yeah, I know.
I do that.

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I will do that with my daughter.
If she's like limping or

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something, I am OK.
We are going to sit on the

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couch.
You're going to, you're going to

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get a massage, but I'm going to
be over here figuring everything

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out.
I'm going to, I'm moving your

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limbs.
I'm squeezing every single one

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00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,360
of your paw pads to see if
there's a reaction.

447
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,480
Like I I will do that with my
dog because again, I don't want

448
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320
to go to the veterinarian for a
limp, right?

449
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,360
Like, OK, maybe you just pulled
a muscle.

450
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,840
Maybe I just need to massage it
for you.

451
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,120
Maybe I just need to put some
essential oils on it.

452
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,480
You can't fix a broken bone.
But also she.

453
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680
Can't stop whining, right?
So like that, Yeah.

454
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,000
It wasn't just the limb.
At that point She's like laying

455
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,640
down whining and you're like,
OK.

456
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,840
What's going on?
This is where I need to and

457
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,280
like, why bother even calling
anybody because that person's

458
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,520
going to be like, go to the vet.
100.

459
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,120
Percent looks like your dog's
like your dog is throwing up.

460
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,200
You just caught them like with
same dog caught her with like an

461
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,200
open bottle of Proen, which is a
chewable tablet that tastes like

462
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,880
bacon for incontinence and she
had chewed like 30 of them.

463
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Am I going to call the vet and
be like, should I bring her in?

464
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,440
I know to bring her in.
Who I called at that moment was

465
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,080
the pet poison control line to
get the toxicologist down and be

466
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,320
like, I'm about to take her to
the vet.

467
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,640
This is what she ingested.
And then they call the vet.

468
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,160
So like, but again, this is me
who's been in this industry for

469
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,840
almost 20 years.
And like, I've had dogs, so many

470
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,760
dogs.
I've fostered, I've raised

471
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,720
neonatal kittens.
I've taken care of, you know,

472
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,160
moms that just had babies, all
the things.

473
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,320
But like me at 24 when No 28,
when I first got Titan, I'd had

474
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,040
one dog at that point.
And like, yeah, Oh my God, the

475
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,240
amount of money I spent on
nonsense, especially like we

476
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,840
talked last week, all the
nonsense.

477
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,520
We talked about that too, the
toys, the chews, the this, the

478
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,040
that, that.
Like add that to all the

479
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,880
veterinary costs that I spent
that I could have saved.

480
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,200
I mean, we're talking in the
easily $2000 in the first year.

481
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Yeah.
And one of the other things, and

482
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:57,000
I don't know if this is on on a
is list or not, there are just

483
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,320
starting to kind of come around.
There's well, I shouldn't say

484
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,320
that.
I think it probably started

485
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,960
later after, after the pandemic
was technically over, like these

486
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,480
like mobile veterinarians kind
of started popping up

487
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,640
everywhere.
Not just like a single house

488
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,080
call that would that's been
around forever, but like

489
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,400
franchise type, we're going out
everywhere and there are vans

490
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,040
everywhere kind of that popped
up.

491
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:32,240
And I think there, there
probably is some maybe cost

492
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800
difference because they don't
have the overhead of a brick and

493
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,960
mortar.
So there is that to, to be aware

494
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,240
of as well.
Something newer that is popping

495
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,280
up that I'm a big fan of
particularly because I think it

496
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,440
fits really well and with what I
do, I, again, I am not here to

497
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,440
replace your veterinarian.
I will never ever say that I am.

498
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:03,320
But there are instances where
whether you're in like a desert

499
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,000
where you can't get to a
veterinarian because that's a

500
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,240
thing that's happening and
popping up more and more, or you

501
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,880
you don't have a veterinarian
that you can trust at the

502
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,240
moment, you're in in limbo.
Maybe you're working with a pet

503
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,280
health coach.
There are labs popping up where

504
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,840
you can go in and just get your
whatever lab work done that you

505
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000
need for your pet.
So if you are working with a

506
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,320
professional, whether it's a pet
health coach like me or maybe

507
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040
doing telehealth with a holistic
veterinarian who lives halfway

508
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,560
around the world, you can go in
and get those labs that you need

509
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280
without necessarily paying the
overhead of this veterinarian.

510
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Now, sometimes you do need a
veterinarian to check that

511
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,680
animal out.
I'm not saying that this is like

512
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960
a way to get our results.
Absolutely.

513
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,480
Now, I mean somebody like if you
are working telehealth with a,

514
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000
you know, a holistic or
integrative vet, they're going

515
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040
to be able to read the results.
If you're working with a pet

516
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640
health coach like me, I'm going
to be able to read the results.

517
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,480
But yeah, you do need to work
with somebody to be able to read

518
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,600
the results.
And they're absolutely are going

519
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440
to be instances where a
veterinarian needs to have their

520
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,760
hands on your animal, period,
end of story.

521
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,800
But these are ways to
potentially save.

522
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,320
And there are veterinarians out
there who are like, this is

523
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,480
these are the kinds of things
that take up way too much of

524
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,960
mine and my staff's time.
They want you to bring your your

525
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,240
dog or cat in.
They want to see your dog or

526
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,320
cat.
But there are things that they

527
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,720
want to What is the word in
outsource out.

528
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Yes, outsource.
And so and, and for me, I do

529
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,840
think this is a way where you
could potentially save money.

530
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800
I know when I talk to all of my
clients and I'm recommending

531
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,640
them getting rabies titers or
anything, any other titers, I am

532
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,800
always directing them to Hemo
Pet because it is so much less

533
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,000
expensive.
Veterinarians charge an arm and

534
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,560
a leg to do it tighter, A rabies
tighter test when we all know

535
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,800
full well I don't care if your
veterinarian sends it in or you

536
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,600
send it to Humopet.
Everybody is sending that rabies

537
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,040
tighter test to Kansas State.
It is all going through Kansas

538
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,200
State.
There is no reason for you to

539
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,360
pay $400 to your veterinarian
when you can pay $80.00 to

540
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Humopet plus whatever your vet
charges for.

541
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,720
A bronze One thing I will about
the visiting vets and I say

542
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,440
visiting vets because my mom's
vet in Miami was a like he had a

543
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,800
brick and mortar.
She had a brick and mortar and

544
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,200
she would also go to the house.
So like she called herself the

545
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,720
visiting vet.
And in my case, when I first

546
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,280
moved to El Paso, I used to do
the my, my vet right now who has

547
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480
a brick and mortar would do
house calls.

548
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000
And it was cheaper for her to do
a house call for four pets than

549
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160
for us to take different pets at
different times.

550
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920
So we would do that.
And I think her house call fee

551
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,280
was like 90 bucks, whereas maybe
her in in office fee was like 60

552
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,840
bucks, but you couldn't take all
four at the same time in case

553
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
she doesn't have a big enough
practice, right.

554
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,280
So those things are important to
ask if you do have a lot of

555
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,720
pets, if it would be smarter to
either have your vet come to you

556
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,000
with a fee or to find a mobile
vet that can just like clear out

557
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120
the afternoon and come over.
And it's amazing how much they

558
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,760
can do at home for these
Wellness checks.

559
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,560
Like they bring their their
little kids, they draw blood,

560
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
they take everything.
I mean, they euthanize at home.

561
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480
All those things are really
doable.

562
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,880
I feel like even like in the
case of Titan when he got his

563
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640
bite, we could have done laser,
you know, like cuz it's like a,

564
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,000
it's like a tool.
It's not really like that big of

565
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,280
a thing to transfer.
But I will say that there are

566
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,200
many different types of online
vet services.

567
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Chewy does one for free.
So offers free chat and video

568
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760
consultations.
That's Chewy.

569
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Connect with a vet.
Again, not sponsored but I'm

570
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,160
just giving you ideas.
Vetster, Pop, PAWP.

571
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Those are veterinarian,
veterinarians and nurses for

572
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920
advice and support.
Whisker Docs.

573
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960
Whisker docs even does e-mail
consultations.

574
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Bond Vet.
Virtual veterinary care.

575
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Dutch and air vet and some of
these charge by like the

576
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880
consultation and some of them
have subscriptions.

577
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,880
So you just have to figure out
what it is that you are

578
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840
comfortable with how often you
use them.

579
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,040
And then also I want to talk
about how there are options for

580
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,920
those big, but this these, these
guys are great for like, you

581
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360
know, diarrhea, whatever you
want to save 50 bucks or

582
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,360
whatever.
But like, let's talk about when

583
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:08,240
there are big diagnosis, your
dog breaks her toe and you have

584
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,040
to pay $2000.
And then after you put the cast

585
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
on, it gets wet and now she has
gangrene.

586
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,640
So now you have to go back in
and they remove the cast and now

587
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,560
you're at another $500.
And this was like in 2000.

588
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Oh my God.
So Can you imagine what it is

589
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680
now in 2025?
Your dog.

590
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,200
Ate a sock, your dog got into
the pro and pills.

591
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Your dog heaven forbid got
impaled at the park, which one

592
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,960
of my staff members had happened
to her.

593
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,600
One day she called me.
She's like I can't walk dogs.

594
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,480
I was at whatever park and my
dog literally got impaled.

595
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800
She had like 142 stitches in the
wound.

596
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,440
They have to transport her with
a stick in her in her torso on

597
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,840
your dog, heaven forbid, gets
hit by a car.

598
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,760
These things happen.
So like the And then another

599
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,160
thing that happens, your dog or
cat gets diagnosed with cancer

600
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,760
or some kind of other disease
that you know is expensive to

601
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080
treat.
So what do you do that like,

602
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,920
yes, you have access to care
credit, yes, you could

603
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,280
potentially start your
consultations online, but now

604
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520
you're at the vet, now you're
facing, you know, whatever you

605
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,400
spent that day and whatever
comes next.

606
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,639
So there are organizations that
will help you.

607
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,239
You just have to do the legwork.
And I feel like people here in

608
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,719
this in this topic, I feel like
people think it should be

609
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,719
easier, But I mean, there are a
lot of people out there in the

610
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,320
same boat.
And so it's not easy.

611
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719
And like there's not a lot of
money to go around.

612
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,880
So there are like funds that
different organizations have to

613
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,639
help.
We have a friend, Sam Bears,

614
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,719
Bears Bikes.
That's her business.

615
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,080
And she has, excuse me, she has
like a nonprofit where she

616
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,840
raises funds so that she can
help people with big vet bills.

617
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,760
And there's a lot that's on a
small scale in her area, but

618
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,760
there are bigger organizations,
including, you know, the Humane

619
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,400
Society of the United States,
who sometimes has help.

620
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,480
So but what happens there is you
need to find the organization.

621
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,440
You need to apply for the help,
you need to move quickly.

622
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
You need to follow up.
You may get rejected.

623
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,960
And you know, you need to find
multiple places and can't put

624
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,960
all your eggs in one basket.
It can be really frustrating,

625
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600
but it can be really helpful.
Like I said, I think it was last

626
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,120
week or the week before.
There's a Vet Corner group on

627
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Facebook.
They also provide not only like

628
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,520
you can post a picture that says
like, oh, my dog's limping.

629
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,360
Look at her toe, it's swollen.
They can say, you know, that

630
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,240
needs veterinary attention.
It could be broken.

631
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,320
But there was a person who
posted a cat that she had found

632
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,280
unresponsive and everybody was
like, obviously, like, take your

633
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,240
cat to the vet.
And then later there was an

634
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,200
update like she's gone or
whatever.

635
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,000
And there are other things where
it's like a skin issue where

636
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840
maybe it's not like the life or
death, but the vets will be

637
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,680
like, OK, that looks like XYZ.
So now you have like a diagnosis

638
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,360
more or less.
And you can go to that.

639
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,960
But they also as part of their
responses, usually link some

640
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,560
like resource, economic,
financial resources.

641
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
And they're all over like in
Texas, specifically Texas

642
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Veterinary Medical Foundation.
The LEAP program offers free

643
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520
veterinary care to economically
disadvantaged individuals,

644
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,240
particularly the elderly and the
disabled.

645
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,240
Frankie's Friends low cost, no
cost and low cost veterinary

646
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,920
care, especially for cats,
including spay neuter services

647
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,000
and veterinary forensic
services.

648
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,640
That's if you're there's abuse
or something like that criminal

649
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,400
activity surrounding these
animals.

650
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,880
Humane Society of the United
States, they have a list,

651
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,160
national and state level
organizations that provide these

652
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,400
services either, you know, like
preventive stuff like spay,

653
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,720
neuter, vaccinations, whatever,
microchipping for free or for

654
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,720
low cost and also for bigger
catastrophic stuff.

655
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,960
The pet fund owners who cannot
afford veterinary care.

656
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,200
It's a nonprofit.
Bow Wow buddies, Paws for a

657
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,280
cure, the magic bullet fund.
We have a friend.

658
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,680
Oh my gosh, I can't remember
what it's called now.

659
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,280
Moose is March.
Moose is March does like testing

660
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,480
for cancer for free.
So they provide the kits.

661
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
So if you are worried that your
pet might, you know, have

662
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,360
something and you know, it's not
urgent, but you're worried it,

663
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,680
she provides that.
So there's like an endless

664
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,400
amount of organizations out
there.

665
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,680
You just have to do the legwork.
And I think people get really

666
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,080
discouraged really easily.
Maybe it's because you and I are

667
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,720
such doers.
They were like, I mean, I need a

668
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,280
solution.
I'm going to find it like not

669
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,160
everybody's resourceful, but you
have AI now.

670
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,720
So like literally tell AI you
can use ChatGPT.

671
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:12,840
You can use Gemini and be like
ChatGPT, well don't say ChatGPT

672
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,600
because you're just wasting
water, but just be like help me

673
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,440
find a low cost or no cost
veterinary care for my dog who

674
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,480
was just diagnosed with cancer.
And like see what you get in

675
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,480
your area.
Use your resources, talk to

676
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,880
people, call your vet, call your
social, your Humane Society,

677
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,720
your local shelter.
Ask.

678
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,320
Don't be embarrassed.
That's the biggest thing I

679
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,400
think.
People don't ask for help

680
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,880
because they're embarrassed,
they don't feel deserving.

681
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
The organization will determine
if you're deserving or not.

682
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:50,400
Just ask them.
Yeah, well, yes, but also like

683
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,760
just because they may not have
enough funds also doesn't mean

684
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,880
you're not deserving.
They wouldn't tell you you're

685
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,040
not deserving, but like they
might tell you like we have

686
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,680
people in more need or they
might just tell you like we've

687
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
exhausted our funds, like we
would love to help you, but we

688
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,440
can't.
But like that, I mean, there are

689
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,400
people who want support that
maybe don't need it as much as

690
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,680
other people, right?
That's true.

691
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,280
The the biggest thing too is the
sometimes there's there's stuff

692
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,240
going on.
I don't know if everybody knows

693
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,640
all like the million pet related
holidays we celebrate each year.

694
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Like May is Chip your is
national Chip your pet mum.

695
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Yeah, National Pet Week was last
week.

696
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080
So like there are a lot of
organizations that will run

697
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,960
programs, promos, things like
that over specific holidays.

698
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040
Pet Cancer Month, I think is it?
When was it?

699
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,880
We just did something on Pet
Cancer Month.

700
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,280
We did.
No, I think it was back in like.

701
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,840
November.
Was it back in October, right?

702
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Yeah.
October.

703
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,480
November.
Yeah.

704
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,480
So like when those things are
happening, you might have some

705
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,680
success getting some support for
something, maybe not, again,

706
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,960
super acute, but something
chronic that maybe you're

707
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,880
managing, you know, DCM, like
degenerative myelopathy.

708
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,640
DM sorry, DM degenerative
myelopathy is something that

709
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,920
you've managed for a long time.
And so like if you, there are

710
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640
groups on Facebook for
everything.

711
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,280
So like, if you have a
diagnosis, go straight to those

712
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,760
groups and ask like, how can I
get help?

713
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,680
When my dog Titan was diagnosed
with degenerative myelopathy, I

714
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,480
went straight to the DM group on
Facebook and it was so helpful.

715
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,720
They told me how to save money
on genetic testing.

716
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,080
They told me like what works,
what doesn't.

717
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,880
You know, they really are like,
and the people who are admins of

718
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:46,160
these groups are so committed to
helping pet parents that like,

719
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,440
they truly are like a wealth of
information and like invaluable

720
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,760
input for free because it's
literally just like another

721
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,840
member of the group giving you
all this advice.

722
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:02,280
Which I wanted temper, but yes,
they can be very, very helpful.

723
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,200
You just have to, you still have
to you still to figure things

724
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,880
out for yourself, but take that
under like take everything they

725
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,040
give you under advisement
because it can't.

726
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,240
They there are absolutely
sometimes where it's going to be

727
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,120
amazing information and there's
also going to be sometimes where

728
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,880
it's really horrible.
I like, I know there's a group

729
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,960
on Facebook.
That's why I said admin.

730
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,640
Yeah, yeah, that.
Well, there's there's there is a

731
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,600
group that I heard about a few
months ago on Facebook that they

732
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,720
are recommending dogs only eat.
Fruit.

733
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,440
OK, but don't join those groups
I'm talking about specifically,

734
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,200
yeah.
Don't join the red.

735
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,360
Flag.
When we talk about red flags,

736
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,360
that is like a huge red flag.
Any group that tells you to feed

737
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,240
anybody only fruit.
Yeah.

738
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,280
Didn't the girl who only ate
bananas die?

739
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,880
I I there was that, but that
would make sense.

740
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,080
Yeah, like there was a girl who
only ate, but I think she was

741
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,200
from Ecuador.
This is why, like, I connected

742
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,800
with her and I don't know if she
passed away, but there was a

743
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,280
girl very attractive, always in
her swimsuit, like, very sexy.

744
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,160
And she was just like, I only
eat bananas.

745
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,840
That's all the food I need.
And I remember being like, yeah,

746
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,080
that doesn't sound right.
So yeah, intervention doesn't

747
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,960
sound right.
Double check it.

748
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,400
But it's a really great place to
start when you have a diagnosis

749
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,760
that you're learning about.
Because those groups for me,

750
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,200
like for the DM diagnosis, there
was all the information I was

751
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,520
going to find online was like
compiled for me.

752
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,560
So it was like curated.
And then there were people kind

753
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,800
of like already in comments
being like, well, this didn't

754
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560
work for me or this did or I
disagree with this because of

755
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,840
this and that, you know,
everybody's kind of like, if

756
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,440
they allow links, that's super
helpful.

757
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,200
And this particular group does
some places don't allow links at

758
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,960
all, which is super annoying.
But if they allow links, it's so

759
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280
helpful.
And you know, none of none of

760
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,360
them was were promotional.
It was just like helpful.

761
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Like, you know, there's not a
lot of there are not a lot of

762
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,600
studies on a lot of things that
ALR pets.

763
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:11,080
So a lot of it comes down to
anecdotal stuff, you know, when

764
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,560
you're dealing with these
things.

765
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,320
And that's where this stuff is
helpful.

766
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Like, yeah, my dog has DM, but I
did this protocol with CBD and

767
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,120
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

768
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560
And it, you know, he seemed to
do better.

769
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,840
So you're like, OK, well, what
do I have to lose when you get

770
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,200
these diagnosis where it's like,
and like in my case, like we

771
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,160
didn't spend the money on an
MRI.

772
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,160
We chose not to because he was
so advanced in age.

773
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,760
Like whether or not we were
going to find it was silly, but

774
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,320
we did instead use that money
for acupuncture.

775
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,520
So like by saving some money
somewhere, you can invest in

776
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,560
something else.
Absolutely.

777
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Well, I think these are all
great tips, yes.

778
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,040
We're going to cut it short
today because Jessica and I need

779
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,720
to have a meeting about nothing
related to pets.

780
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,520
I mean, obviously pets are
always part of the conversation,

781
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,160
but we need it to catch up.
So I think we talked about

782
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,320
everything.
Again, use your resources.

783
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Don't take no for an answer.
Keep looking for it.

784
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040
And actually, Jessica, I wanted
to ask you if next week you

785
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,680
would be open to discussing what
to do when your dog bites like

786
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,880
you have a biter.
I just got a message from a

787
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,760
friend in the DC area.
Whose friend found a dog, kept

788
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,520
it, and the dog's a biter.
Resource guarding.

789
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680
I mean, in the one paragraph I,
I already know like resource

790
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,080
guarding, lots of management
having to be done.

791
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,960
But a trainers told them they
had to euthanize.

792
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,200
And So what I figured is we
could talk about all the options

793
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,200
that come before euthanasia.
Yeah, yeah.

794
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,240
Well, and I think.
Obviously when it's time to

795
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,360
behaviorally euthanize.
Yeah, I and I think I had sent

796
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,200
you.
We can do that and then maybe

797
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,200
the next week roll into or even
try to.

798
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840
I don't know if we could fit it
in.

799
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,920
More than 99% of US dogs have a
behavior problem, Texas A&M

800
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,720
research.
Yes, that's right.

801
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,800
Yeah, let's do the bite. 1st and
then let's talk about.

802
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Roll into behavior problems and
what they are common behavior

803
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,640
problems.
So we'll get off the topic of

804
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,800
economy.
OK, so we're going to, we're

805
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,000
going to like put our financial
advisor hats aside and now we're

806
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,480
going to put our behavior
consultant hats on and discuss

807
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,720
dog bites and when a dog bite
has gone too far, when a biting

808
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:43,280
dog is not fixable.
Yeah, yeah.

809
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,360
There are situations where that
happens, so.

810
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,800
Spoiler.
I mean, there are situations

811
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
where the dog is probably better
off at rest.

812
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,760
Yeah.
They're not enjoying life at

813
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,320
that point either.
I think it's extreme, but I do

814
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,120
think that absolutely can be the
case sometimes.

815
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,160
And we always want to take the
quality of of life into

816
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,880
consideration.
So yeah, let's talk about that

817
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,000
next week.
All right, guys.

818
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,320
Thank you guys for joining.
I really appreciate you.

819
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,680
And if you have anything after
you, you catch this later not

820
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,120
live.
If you want to continue the

821
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,440
conversation and comments, we're
happy to participate.

822
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,040
Just keep it nice.
Yes.

823
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,720
All right, guys.
All right, y'all have a

824
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,160
wonderful week.
Thanks as well.

825
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:25,240
Bye.