Earth Day & Heartworms | Weekly Pet Roundup

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So this week on the weekly Pat
roundup, we are continuing our

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spring series.
So it feels more like summer for

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me today, but we're talking
about heartworms.

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So last time we met, we talked
about fleas and ticks.

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Talking about heartworms today
you're buffering on Instagram.

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Am I buffering for you?
I don't know if it's me or you.

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Yeah, I just got like the
spinning circle.

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At least it's a pretty picture
of you smiling into the camera.

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Yes.
I'm back.

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You're back.
You're back so really quick.

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Before we get started, I just
have something super special

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that I put out on my podcast
yesterday, which was like a

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weird day for me.
I normally post on Tuesdays.

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I posted it yesterday because I
wanted everybody to get like

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advanced notice or like at least
as much notice as possible.

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Today is Earth Day, April 22nd,
and we which I think it's weird.

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I think it's normally on a
Thursday for so for some reason

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this year it's on a Tuesday.
I think it's but the. 22nd isn't

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it really?
That's what I've been saying for

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my client blogs.
I don't know, maybe I could be

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wrong, who the heck knows.
But it is.

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It is Earth Day.
And the thing with today is that

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I remember back in 2020, I saw a
documentary called Kiss the

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Ground, and it was like, not
necessarily the first I had

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heard about regenerative
agriculture, but it kind of put

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into perspective like what
regenerative agriculture is.

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And for me as a nutritionist, I
talk about regenerative

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agriculture a lot because the
food that we put on our plate

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has very different nutritional
values depending on how it is

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raised or grown.
And so I am very passionate

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about trying to eat as much
regeneratively raised meats and

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produce as possible.
And so Kiss the Ground came out

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in 2020.
Today on Prime Video, the follow

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up to that documentary called
Common Ground is being released.

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And they also added Kiss the
Ground to Prime Video.

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So they're basically both on
Prime Video.

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Today is the first day, but it
is the launch for Common Ground.

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And I did a very quick podcast
episode with Ian Somerhalder,

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who is an actor and
humanitarian, who is one of the

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famous people in this
documentary series on like what

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we can do to actually save our
planet.

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Regenerative, regenerative
agriculture can save our planet.

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I firmly believe that.
And I am in no way, shape or

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form like involved with this
documentary.

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I'm just fully behind it.
So please go check out the

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podcast, go watch Common ground
tonight as you're eating dinner

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or whatever on Prime Video.
And that is my introduction.

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Now I would let Isabel talk.
Well, well.

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Was is that appropriate in front
of my children?

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I mean, I haven't watched it
yet, but I don't see why not.

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OK.
I don't see.

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I mean, we're talking about.
Saving the original one, the one

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that you did see was that one
like fine.

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Yeah, yeah.
OK.

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Yeah.
Well, I will, I'll put that on

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tonight because my kids need a
lesson in not being wasteful.

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Yeah.
I mean, it's really about like

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when we actually work with the
earth instead of against it.

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So we're not using pesticides,
herbicides, fertilizers like

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insecticides, all those things.
We're not using those things

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because those are trying to
kill, right?

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When we instead work with the
earth, then we regenerate our

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soils, we bring back nutrients
in our food, we bring back the

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ecosystem, which monocropping I
don't you know, people may or

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may not know like completely
destroys the soil.

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I read something the other day
that like 1 application of

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Roundup or anything like Roundup
is it will completely destroy

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the soil for 10 years.
What?

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Because an antibiotic.
It's an antibiotic and

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antibiotics are literally anti
life.

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So it kills everything.
Nothing can grow.

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And so that's what we have done
with industrialization and you

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know, allowing allowing our
legislative representatives to

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allow big AG, you know,
pharmaceutical companies who own

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these big agricultural
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What was interesting is he told
me that very similarly how we

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always talk about how big pet
food has Co opted veterinary

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universities, veterinary
schools, these agrochemical

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companies have done the exact
same thing in the agriculture

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departments at universities.
So that's all these people are

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learning when they're.
Anms out there, all the anms.

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Yes, yes.
So I mean, I'm such a nerd, I'm

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such a geek, but this is like
super, super interesting to me

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and I'm super passionate about
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And I think it, I mean, for me
it all goes hand in hand, even

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though like you think about, oh,
we're talking about dogs and

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cats, Like why are we talking
about the Earth?

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Like it?
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So much.
No, our pets have a huge carbon

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footprint.
Huge.

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Just the poop has a huge carbon
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I've been writing all week
about, you know, the difference

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between biodegradable poop bags
and landfill biodegradable poop

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bags.
And we all think we're doing

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something great for the
environment by buying

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biodegradable or compostable
poop bags.

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But unless you have a like an
industrial composting situation

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in your in your area, which most
people don't, or you're poop

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bag, the the biodegradable poop
bag is somehow being handled

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differently than a landfill.
Those are completely a waste of

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money because nothing is
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Most poop bags end up in a
landfill and unless there's

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something that breaks it down
specifically in a landfill

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environment.
And none of these bags are doing

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what the packaging says.
Because in a landfill you don't

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have light, you don't have
oxygen, and you don't have

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moisture.
It's just layers upon layers

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upon layers of trash, right?
So that poop bag that's covered

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by layers of trash is never
going to get moisture or

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sunlight or oxygen.
It's just completely deprived of

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all those things.
So that poop bag that you paid

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extra money for, you know, the
earth rated types and all those

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things, it's acting like a
plastic bag from the grocery

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store.
Like at that point in that

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landfill, it's exactly the same.
So as a consumer, I'm like

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annoyed because people are
paying money for something

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that's not really biodegrading
like they think it is.

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It's still taking 100 years, 300
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to degrade in that landfill.
So I always that I've done this

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before.
It's on my on my grid on

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Instagram.
I went live with the founder of

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a green Line pet supply at super
Zoo last year.

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She makes a landfill
biodegradable poop bag that has

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a proprietary earth safe
additive that she developed that

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goes into the material that
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And with that additive, which is
basically bacteria that eats the

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poop and the bag.
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anywhere, especially landfills
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up.
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the waterways, like anybody
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which is such a pet peeve of
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And I just when I did my show
last week, I was interviewing

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Jessica Williams, who hikes with
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And she her background was like
an environmental science before

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she started blogging with her,
her blog name and her her

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business name as you did what
with your Weiner?

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And she was talking about how
she was in like water quality,

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like that's what she did.
And so I was asking her how

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annoyed she gets when she sees
people, you know, not picking up

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because she knows how much of an
impact that has.

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Like, if you walk past your
poop, you pretend that dog

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didn't poop.
You forgot that bag, whatever

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your excuses, or you forgot, you
know, like you're hiking and you

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like, leave it on the side of
the trail and you forget all

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that poop ends up in our
waterways.

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It come it, it contaminates our,
our seafood.

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It contaminates our, our
drinking water.

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It contaminates like the water
the wildlife drinks, it

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contaminates our crops.
It contaminates everything.

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Poop needs to be landfilled.
But of course we want it to be

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landfilled in bags that don't
end up also adding a bunch of

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micro plastics to the
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So there's so much to it just
with poop.

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Yeah, we can literally have a
whole conversation about just

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how poop and our pets affects
the environment.

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And that's not that's just like
dogs, that's not even going into

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the litter and what the what
litter manufacturing, what

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litter disposal does to our
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So we'd really in any way that
and I'm glad we're starting with

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this because I was thinking too
like, we can't all get it right.

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And actually Jessica said that
she was like, I don't get so mad

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about people not picking up
because maybe those people are

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like, you know, doing something
else that's like very helpful to

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the environment.
So maybe, you know, there's like

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a kind of like a, a balance
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I disagree with that because I
think that if you're the kind of

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person who walks by poop, you're
probably don't give a damn about

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anything.
That's my opinion and I must

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stick to it.
That's just based on my

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experience.
I'm like the kind of person that

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will lose sleep if I like didn't
have a bag.

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So I will literally come home
but get a bag and go out if it's

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if I've lived here for almost 8
years and it's happened maybe

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twice and I will literally get
home, bring my dogs and go walk

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back or drive back wherever I
was to pick it up.

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Within an hour it's gone.
But I, I feel like we can't

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always do everything right,
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Like I can't do everything
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Like, yes, I have a cat.
Yes, I, I use litters.

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So like I know that I'm having
an impact on the environment

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that's negative, But I can, for
example, invest in those green

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line poop bags.
I use them for the litter

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scooping because they have a
big, they have an extra large

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size, which is really cool.
And then I use them for all my

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dog waste management.
So like in the yard, I have a

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bat.
I like, I have a basket full of

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the rolls.
So like there's no excuse.

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My son picks up, I pick up, my
husband picks up and that's our

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yard that only affects us.
But again, it goes into the

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waterway, it doesn't rain a lot
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So it's not like an immediate
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But if you live somewhere where
like you don't pick up everyday

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that poop that if it's raining
is going into your waterways

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inevitably.
And so we all have to do

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something.
So like in your case, it's

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regenerative agriculture, buying
more sustainable foods.

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For me, it's maybe like waste
management, but we can all do a

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little bit better when it comes
to our pet parenting to support

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the environment and to be more
responsible pet parents.

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And for me also like packaging
is super important.

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Supporting local businesses
whenever you can so that there's

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not that carbon footprint of
just like the shipping cost or

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the shipping, you know, the
emissions and all that, that has

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to do with when you're shipping
stuff from who know from 5

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states away or or more, right?
So buying locally is really

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important if you can do that,
buying in bulk, depending on

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what it is, right?
Like you don't want to buy

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kibble in bulk because then
it'll go bad.

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But like maybe you do buy your
cans of food in bulk.

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So that plastic packaging that
they put around, like the cases

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of of cat food, for example,
that might minimize the amount

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of plastic just because you're
buying it in bulk.

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Whatever it is that you can do
to support the environment, it's

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important to do it because yes,
today is Earth Day and

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everybody's like, you know, hey,
what are we going to do for the

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environment?
But there's 365, sometimes 366

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days in the year.
And there's a lot of

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opportunities for us to either
really make bad decisions and be

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wasteful and be kind of abuse
the environment.

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And there are opportunities for
us without a ton of expense

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involved, just make better
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I do think that that yes, you
know, buying poop bags might be

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like, I'm not going to buy poop
bags.

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That's like I don't have the
money to buy a poop bag.

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OK, well then, you know, what
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Like, what is it that you can
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Can you, you know, pick up poop
that you walk by, like, even if

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it's not your dogs, right?
Like, can you do something like

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that?
Can you participate in like a

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park cleanup in your area?
There's a lot of them.

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your time.
And if you have the time to

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offer, that's another way to
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And I personally don't feel like
Green Line pet supplies, poop

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bags are very expensive.
They are having a promo this

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week.
She's doing 20% off of

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everything for Earth Day.
So if you go to my grid, you'll

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see that I posted today, but my
affiliate links there and my,

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and the codes there.
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it's there.
She also has one of the things I

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really like is I buy them in
bulk the the bags and they come,

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they don't come packaged like
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They come in like a, a really
big box and then the poo bags

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that I use for litter scooping
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It just comes with like a little
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So there's no excess packaging,
which I think is huge too

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because again, it's just little
by little supporting your like

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no waste stores.
If you have those nearby, those

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are amazing.
Like I was just looking at one

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in Chicago for one of my clients
and it's so cute and it looks so

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fun and like, I don't know that
I've never even looked in El

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Paso.
If we have a no way store where

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you take your like containers
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Like instead of buying a huge
thing of like dish soap to

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refill your thing, you would
just take all your containers to

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the store, refill stuff if it's
somewhere that you like work

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nearby or something like that.
If there's, it's like such a

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cool opportunity to do something
and probably save some money in

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the process because you
inevitably do pay for that

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plastic tub that everything
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Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.

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But I think also that really
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today anyway, because so last
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intake, today we're talking
about heartworm and the reality

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of those chemicals that you get
whether you're buying them from

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like a Walmart or a Petco or
your veterinarian's office,

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these are chemicals, They are
neurotoxins.

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And they 100% not only get
everywhere in your dog or cat's

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body, meaning they're going to
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You're going to find them in
every type of cell in your dog

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or cat's body.
They get through the blood brain

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barrier, so they're going to be
in your pets brains as well.

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Sex organs, all of it, every,
every place you could think to

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check in your dog or cat's body,
you're going to find these

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neurotoxic chemicals.
That's bad enough, but anything

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that you put on topically or
those collars that is 100% also

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going to get in the environment.
It is.

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It is in our waterways.
There are studies out there

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showing that it is killing and
changing the ecosystem in our

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waterways because they are
finding like Fibranil and

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isozazoline or however the heck
you say it, all of these active

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ingredients in these products
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What I will say, because I know
we're kind of jumping in a

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little bit later for anybody
listening to me, especially like

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heartworm, Ivermectin is in
small doses, is incredibly

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effective and fairly benign in
the body as far as like risk

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factors are concerned.
So I'm just going to jump out

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there and say that there are
ways to get like heart guard.

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Playing heart guard is, is
basically like a micro dose of

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ivermectin.
I think there's one other one

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out there I'd have to double
check.

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Doctor Josie View recently
posted about this.

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So like, if you are terribly
concerned you want to do

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something in addition, you can
go that route.

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Absolutely.
And you can you can go the route

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without having to do the really
harmful neurotoxic chemicals.

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And I know there are some people
out there who still squirm at

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ivermectin, but this is a Nobel
Prize winning, you know?

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You know what I mean?
Like.

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The reason I'm laughing?
You know why I'm laughing?

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I use ivermectin every single
day.

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Yeah, it's amazing, right?
I just use somebody.

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Else I have rosacea and I spent
my whole life suffering with

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redness and breakouts and
there's a rosacea type 1, which

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is the redness and there's
rosacea type 2, which is like

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cystic acne.
And I both, but I spent my whole

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like 20s, teens, 20s, thirties
going to dermatologists and I

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was treated for acne.
All of the acne products always

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just destroyed my skin even
further because I was so

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sensitive and I always just grew
up being like, I have the most

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sensitive skin.
I can't like nothing can touch

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my skin.
Well, thankfully this is

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thankfully, ironically, when I
got pregnant with Mila, my

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youngest 5-6 years ago now, I
got horrible rosacea.

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And because rosacea is a common
side effect of pregnancy, the

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dermatologist were like
immediately, that's rosacea.

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So nobody before had ever tested
me for rosacea.

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And unfortunately, when you're
pregnant and when you're

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breastfeeding, they don't like
to give you ivermectin.

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So I couldn't really do
anything.

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My skin was it looked like I had
a red screaming rash the entire

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time I was pregnant and like a
year after Mila was born.

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Like if you ever, if you see any
pictures of me, first of all,

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I'm swollen and second of all,
like I've like caked on makeup

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just to like bring the redness
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Could not get rid of it.
But then finally, once I was not

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breastfeeding very often, they
allowed me to use Zulantra,

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which is a cream with like a
tiny bit of ivermectin.

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It has changed my life.
I am a huge believer in it.

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And you know what's funny is
Zulantra is not actually not

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funny, actually sad.
Zulantra is not covered by most

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insurance because it's
considered like cosmetic or

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something, which like for
ivermectin, it's not at all

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cosmetic.
It's literally like the the

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alternative was like raw
bleeding rash, right?

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Well, before they started
compounding it, it was like

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$300.00 a month.
So most people just couldn't use

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the Solantra.
So people were going to Tractor

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Supply and buying horse paste
and applying it on their skin.

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And that's how I started.
That's how I started because I

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couldn't get I, I could not get
my insurance to cover it.

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They really like my.
My dermatologist.

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Yeah, my dermatologist
prescribed it.

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They asked me $350.00 a month
for it.

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I said I, I literally can't,
that was my, my business was

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like completely shut down and I
was trying to be responsible.

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And obviously like with two
young kids, like what was like

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why $300.00 when I could go to
Tractor Supply and spend 12 and

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have like the same thing?
And I used to it was, but the,

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the thing about they give it,
it's a horse paras anti

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parasitic, right?
So like it's literally in like

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one of those like shot things
like a syringe.

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And it's supposed to be given.
So I would just like squeeze a

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little bit of the syringe and
it, it smelled like apples

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because it's flavored for the
horse and it's like gooey gel

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for that one.
But thankfully now I pay $45.00

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a month and it's delivered to my
house by a compounding pharmacy,

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thank goodness.
So I and it's just the most

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amazing thing.
And when the, the, the pandemic

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hit.
So I had just started ivermectin

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when the pandemic hit.
And so like now it was gone

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everywhere, like when I was
doing the horse pace for my

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skin, people were ingesting it
right and right or wrong.

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Like I, I love that medication.
So I think it's, you know, if

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you, if you had a success with
it, I wouldn't be surprised for

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like anything, literally
anything because it's

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anti-inflammatory, anti
parasitic, antimicrobial, It's

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all these things, but it's also
really mild.

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Yeah, it's very mild.
And so many things in the body

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are actually caused by parasites
and we don't realize it because

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our medical system does not look
into the root cause of anything.

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It's just like all they want to
do is either inject chemicals or

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cut it out.
That's all they want to.

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Do the symptom address the
symptom?

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Yes, so, but there are so many
things caused by parasites that

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we are not aware of.
And there is there is a, a niche

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of people that believe now I'm
not 100% down this radical, but

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I can absolutely believe that
there are certain cancers that

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are, that, that are caused in
some way, shape or form due to

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parasites.
In fact, we, I don't have a,

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have a mutual acquaintance who
has Ms. and I just sent him

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information because there is a
chiropractor in Florida who has

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been working with people because
they are finding parasites in

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the spinal fluid of Ms.
patients.

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And so I mean, this is, this is
not, I mean, call me, I don't

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care.
Call me a conspiracy theorist

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all you want.
I I don't care what you call me

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if if what I say turns out to
help somebody like this is the

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thing about.
Ivermectin is that really we are

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using it for our pets who are
exposed to the same things as

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us.
So we assume that horses have

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parasites.
We assume that pets have

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paradise parasites, right?
Why wouldn't we when we're

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walking barefoot too, like in I
was born in Ecuador.

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I was born in Ecuador where we
when I was growing, where we had

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dengue fever, we had a cholera,
literally cholera, like things

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that like in the US were like,
you know, fictional almost

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right, Like just so old timey.
I grew up with that and we were,

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we were, we were given dewormers
like at least once a year.

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Like that was just like
something we did like as a

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normal thing.
And I lived in a home.

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I did not live, you know, I, I
was not poor in any way, shape

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or form.
It was just like, no matter what

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socioeconomic level you were in,
you assumed we drank water that

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was purified and all that stuff.
We did all the things that

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obviously the, the, the people
in lower socioeconomic levels

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couldn't do, but we were still
being deep, like dewormed and we

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were taking anti parasitics at
least once a year.

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And if we had any kind of, you
know, kind of a, an acute

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situation, the first thing that
they would do was test us for

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worms.
But here in the.

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United States like that just
hasn't been done for humans and

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you know, parasites, which is
what heartworm is, is right.

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It's a parasite.
Parasites live in our

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environment, whether no matter
what species you are, you're

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exposed to them.
So the fact that we're like,

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yes, horses need them, dogs need
them, cats need them, but not

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your kids, Isabel, the ones who
are sitting outside like playing

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in the dirt and then putting
their hands in their mouths

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because like ask any parent,
like our kids are disgusting.

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My kids are worse than Kira,
like Kira would.

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Kira rolls herself around, but
she doesn't really groom herself

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very much.
So like she probably has less

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bacteria and parasites than my
kids have been exposing

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themselves to.
So it's so interesting to me

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that like we get like all up in
arms about an anti parasitic for

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humans.
I mean, I'm just happy to hear

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that.
Like when I put it on at night

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I'm actually doing like a full
body, like anti parasitic but

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it's the best thing that's ever
happened to my skin.

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I love it.
I love it.

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I'm seriously like considering
taking it as well just as like

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part of a detox that I need to
be like I've been doing a detox

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for the past couple of months,
but I like I have not done

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anything specific to parasites
and why the heck not correct?

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Why?
Not.

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But yeah, and my brain fog has
gotten better.

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And like, there's seriously,
like, we talk about detoxing our

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pets all the time.
We should be talking about

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detoxing ourselves as well.
Sure.

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And.
Well, when it comes down to

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heartworm, we all know or many,
most of us know that it's caused

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by mosquitoes, right?
Like the mosquito bites you,

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it's a carrier of whatever.
It's a carrier of the parasite.

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The parasite attacks the heart,
probably other parts of the

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body, but we call it heartworm
because that's where they tend

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to find them.
And that's when you tend, that's

448
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where you tend to find the most
damage, right?

449
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Like, that's when you start
seeing the symptoms of like,

450
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600
they're lethargic, they're out
of breath, they're panting a

451
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,680
lot.
They obviously have like heart

452
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,200
issues and symptoms related to
that.

453
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800
So when we see our pets doing
that, we take them to the vet

454
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,320
immediately.
And that's why they find the

455
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960
heartworm, whether or not they
have it in other places.

456
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,280
I mean, Yeah.
Well.

457
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Yeah, it certainly affects the
lungs as well, but so yes,

458
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,520
mosquitoes transmit it from one
dog to another dog.

459
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,360
Our cats are a totally different
story, especially our indoor

460
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,880
cats.
There are, in my opinion, is

461
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680
absolutely no reason to give
heartworm prevention to an

462
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520
indoor cat.
I don't even know why we would

463
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,200
give it to outdoor cats.
They're just not as susceptible

464
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440
generally.
OK, I'm so happy.

465
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480
We're diving into this first
because I think for dogs, yes,

466
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560
be careful in heartworm.
Get your get your dog tested

467
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,120
every year.
Like period, end of story, OK

468
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,360
for cats.
So when I was living in

469
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,400
Louisiana, Louisiana has a huge
heartworm issue.

470
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Most of the dogs that are
euthanized in shelter

471
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800
environments aren't euthanized
because of heartworm because

472
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,800
they have so many that they
can't really rehab them, right.

473
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,680
So like they just have to like
focus on the healthy ones and

474
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,480
euthanize the the ones that have
heartworms.

475
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
So whereas like in Northern
Virginia, heartworm diagnosis

476
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320
may not be a death sentence, in
Louisiana for a jog it is.

477
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,160
So I asked my vet at the time in
Louisiana who literally was the

478
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,520
nicest lady and she was on
Thursday, she didn't even see

479
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520
patients because she was at the
shelter spaying, neutering,

480
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,120
operating shelter pets.
So she's amazing.

481
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
No hate whatsoever.
But I asked her because I was

482
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:46,200
raising neonatal kittens and she
was like, at a certain age, they

483
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560
all need to go on heartworm
preventative, especially here.

484
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,560
And I was like, well, I mean,
they're inside.

485
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,600
They're literally in a room
because like, they were a

486
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880
nightmare.
Like we moved our master bedroom

487
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280
out and put them in there so
they had a bathroom and

488
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
everything.
And they were like tiny little

489
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,640
clawed, like, you know, demons.
And she was like, they have to.

490
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,400
And I, I was like, do a lot of
cats get heartworm here?

491
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,440
And she was like, out.
This is the interesting part.

492
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,400
Outdoor cats.
Don't because they develop an

493
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,960
immunity to it, but indoor cats,
because they're not exposed as

494
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,080
often, they need protection.
And like, that just didn't seem

495
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,480
right to me, right.
Like it doesn't make a lot of

496
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,560
sense.
Like if I mean, if if they're

497
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,240
being exposed, they're being
exposed.

498
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,600
If it's not going to kill the
outdoor cat, why would it kill

499
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
the indoor cat?
We would assume that the indoor

500
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,760
cat is overall healthier if
they're having their needs met

501
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,200
and they're, you know, eating a
quality food and getting some

502
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,600
kind of, you know, activity and
maintaining a healthy weight and

503
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,080
seeing a vet blah, blah.
But even if.

504
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,400
You know they're eating kibble,
they are indoors, correct?

505
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
So they they have less, they
have less risk factors.

506
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Where exactly where is the risk
factor?

507
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,400
So anyway.
I was immediately like, OK, OK,

508
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,800
I'll put them on right, like
whenever.

509
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
And I never quite did it.
I think I put like the second.

510
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
So I had four and then two of
them got adopted really early.

511
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
So I just kind of like took them
and let them be adopted.

512
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,160
The second set stayed with me
for over a year, so I did

513
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120
actually eventually put them on
something.

514
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000
But I remember, first of all,
getting them to take it was a

515
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,320
nightmare because they, yeah,
they.

516
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Want.
To take that little pill, they

517
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,320
don't want it.
Yeah.

518
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,680
And it was a chewable poison.
So it was a chewable.

519
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
And so, like half the time,
which is such a waste of money,

520
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,720
I would just be like, OK, you
didn't want it.

521
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,400
I just threw it away.
You know what I mean?

522
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Like, I just didn't.
He didn't do it.

523
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,680
But I do know that when they do
get heartworm, it is there's no

524
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
real cure for cats with
heartworm.

525
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
But an outdoor cat's probably
going to lose its life a lot

526
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,480
earlier than the cartworm is
going to take it, You know what

527
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
I mean?
Because like outdoor cats have

528
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
so much, so many risk factors
they can eat, they'll probably

529
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,920
eat rat poison before they get,
you know, they die or get hit by

530
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,160
a car before they die from
heartworm your indoor cat.

531
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Again, it's like I, I live in
the desert.

532
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,880
We actually spray for mosquitoes
because I'm highly allergic and

533
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840
so is Noah to mosquitoes.
So we spray our yard for

534
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,440
mosquitoes, not in the house.
We don't spray any pesticides

535
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
around the house or in the
house, but like the trees and

536
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360
stuff get sprayed.
And so like, what are the

537
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040
chances that we never see
mosquitoes inside?

538
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,920
And if we do, like they find me
and I slap them and I kill them.

539
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080
So the chances of Van Gogh
really being exposed are really

540
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200
very minimal.
And I'm more comfortable just

541
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,880
kind of getting him tested every
year instead.

542
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Yeah, I.
Mean, I don't even for cats.

543
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,560
I don't.
I don't even know where we would

544
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,360
waste the money.
Need to test them but that's

545
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480
that's me.
I just don't see the risk.

546
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,760
It's just me being like super
duper hyper responsible, you

547
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520
know, Cuz then I also, I, I'm
obsessed with my hat and I don't

548
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400
want anything to happen to him.
So like if I ever like got a

549
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,320
diagnosis that I potentially
could have.

550
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000
But like, even if they were to
test him, like there's probably

551
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,360
not much other than an Ivor like
a round of ivermectin that we

552
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,760
could really do for them.
Is that?

553
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they're the so I

554
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240
think different people have
different heartworm protocols.

555
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Like there's a standard
heartworm protocol that I think,

556
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
I don't know that I've ever
heard of a cat being on.

557
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
And, and this is just me.
I don't know that I've ever

558
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
heard of a cat being on a
heartworm protocol.

559
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Oh, oh, OK.
No, that was me.

560
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080
It was like trying to get me to
like opt in to using hand

561
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,760
gestures or something.
Eat right now, you see.

562
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Yes.
I don't know that I've ever

563
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,040
heard of a cat being on a
heartworm protocol.

564
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
But dogs, you know, they wind up
on, you know, crate rest forever

565
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000
and ever and ever because you
don't want to over exert the

566
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720
heart.
Here's the reality of heartworm.

567
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,640
I am more conservative when I
talk to my clients about

568
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800
heartworm for their dogs
specifically.

569
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,360
I don't.
I've never really have the

570
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,480
conversation with cats.
I'm just like, they're indoors,

571
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040
why are why would we?
Why your cats should be.

572
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Indoors, that's the most
important thing.

573
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Your cats should be indoors.
Out.

574
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Indoor, outdoor cats, no, not
great.

575
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Outdoor only cats, not great.
But indoor cats?

576
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,040
They're safe.
The reality is 1 you need to

577
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,400
assess your pets risk factor so
do a Google search for where you

578
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,360
live and how prevalent it is.
Heartworm because yes mosquitoes

579
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520
transfer it from one animal to
another.

580
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Also only female mosquitoes.
So that's the thing.

581
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,360
But what is the risk factor for
your pet specifically?

582
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
So you have to be comfortable
with what you're doing with your

583
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,440
dog.
I'm just going to, from here on

584
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960
out, I think we're just, we're
just going to talk about dogs.

585
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:24,240
So then what can you do besides
putting neurotoxins in your

586
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,080
pet's body?
But absolutely, 100% is going to

587
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,280
affect all of their organ
systems, their brain,

588
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,360
everything.
What can you do?

589
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Well, you're not seeing feral
dogs, wolves, foxes in the wild

590
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880
that are constantly being killed
off by heartworms.

591
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,520
Why is this?
Because they're immune system is

592
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,960
incredible.
Because they are living

593
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,320
outdoors.
They're getting that healthy

594
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,360
microbiome from the soil that
they are constantly living in

595
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000
and on.
They are eating a species

596
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,920
appropriate diet.
They are they have enrichment,

597
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,639
they are hunting like there's a
lot that animals in the wild get

598
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:17,360
that are we we have to make it a
priority to simulate in our

599
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,880
homes for our pets.
The first one being a species

600
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,960
appropriate diet.
So when we assist their body in

601
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,120
building a healthy robust immune
system and they get bit by a

602
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:39,520
mosquito that has heartworm that
is being transmitted, they can

603
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
kill it.
They don't just because they get

604
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,719
bit by a mosquito that is
infecting them with the

605
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,760
microphylla, whatever.
I can't remember all the words

606
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,720
the that are the tiny little
like heartworm thingies that

607
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,560
will go and get into the heart
and the lung and and grow and

608
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,360
expand they before they get
there, before they ever make

609
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560
their way to the heart, before
they grow into adult sized

610
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,840
heartworms.
Their immune system is designed

611
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
to recognize that as an invader
and kill it.

612
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Now an animal that is sedentary,
that eats an ultra processed

613
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:29,760
diet, that is not living a super
healthy lifestyle, they are

614
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,080
getting tons of chemicals in
their body all the time.

615
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Their environment is toxic.
So we're using toxic cleaners,

616
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,720
fragrances, air fresheners, all
the things that most people in

617
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,640
the US, that's how they live.
No, they're not going to be able

618
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,680
to handle it if they get bit by
a mosquito that has that is

619
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,800
infected with heartworm.
And so for me, what I recommend

620
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
to my clients is if that's the
route you're going to stay with

621
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,760
your pet, I'm not shaming you
for that.

622
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
You're giving your pet a loving
home.

623
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,600
I appreciate that, But yeah, we
do need to do some sort of

624
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,320
protection for heartworm.
My preference is going to be for

625
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,360
a basic heart guard, which is,
you know, a micro dose of

626
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,240
ivermectin and, you know,
essential oils.

627
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,400
Making sure the yard is clean,
so we don't have like standing

628
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,840
water, like, you know, things
like this that we can really

629
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,040
make sure we're providing the
optimal environment so that, you

630
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
know, we're not in a breeding
ground for mosquitoes.

631
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,720
That's that's a good thing.
But it's it's just like

632
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,760
everything else is a multi
faceted approach and making sure

633
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
that our pets are as healthy as
they can possibly be.

634
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,320
And sometimes that does mean
additional supplementation in

635
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,960
addition to a species
appropriate diet, especially in

636
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,240
puppies and in aging dogs, they
just need more support.

637
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,680
So it's to me, it's a
well-rounded approach and I

638
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,960
don't want anyone's dog to get
heartworm.

639
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,520
So I am a little bit more
conservative when I talk about

640
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,720
prevention.
Yeah, well.

641
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,280
I'm looking up heartguard and
like so heartguard the the basic

642
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,080
one is for cats.
It only has ivermectin.

643
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Then you have Heartguard Plus,
which is ivermectin and a

644
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,440
dewormer called Pirantel.
Yeah, I.

645
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,640
I it's really, really hard to
find anymore.

646
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960
I think they almost stopped
making the basic heart guard.

647
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,120
I don't ever do pluses.
I don't ever want to do like

648
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320
more than one thing at a time
because then you don't know

649
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,440
where a problem arose from.
If a problem does arise, that

650
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,360
includes vaccines as well.
Doing a four in one vaccine,

651
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360
which one caused the problem?
Well, the problem is you can't

652
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,040
get the.
You can't get the individual

653
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,720
anymore.
I had a vaccine reaction to the

654
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,040
flu shot given to me at the same
time as the Tdap, and so now I

655
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,040
can't have any of those.
And so that is flu, dipteria,

656
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,920
tetanus and pertussis.
I mean, I'm a grown woman with a

657
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,400
healthy immune system, so the
fact that they expect me to do

658
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,560
that at 1:00 every 10 years
anyway is silly.

659
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,920
But that's four things that I
will never be able to do again

660
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360
because now you can't find any
of those.

661
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Well, I mean, flu, yes.
I don't know.

662
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Like but you can't find
diphtheria.

663
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,280
By itself, you can't find
tetanus by itself.

664
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,320
Now you have to.
You nobody should.

665
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Be 3.
Nobody should be.

666
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Getting a tetanus shot anyway,
that is the biggest scam.

667
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,760
Well the flu shot and tetanus.
Those are some huge ass scams.

668
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040
I got I.
Got I used to get the flu shot

669
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,280
every year because my
grandfather was very old and my

670
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,520
grandmother was old but not as
old as him and the only times

671
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
that I got the flu was when I
got the flu shot 100%.

672
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,480
Yes, absolutely.
I don't know that.

673
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,280
I'll, I mean, I can't take it
anymore.

674
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,360
Like even my doctors were
worried because of I had such a

675
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,720
big reaction to those shots when
I was 34 years old.

676
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:10,000
Ten years ago now, over 10 years
ago now, but I my doctor that I

677
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,600
had not gotten a shot until
COVID and they were super

678
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,440
concerned about what I could
react to because we have no idea

679
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
what I reacted to exactly.
Because there is a.

680
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,880
There are 1,000,000 possible
ingredients in that mess that I

681
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,640
allowed them to fill me with.
So, yeah, I, I will say that one

682
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,840
of the most important things is
that annual testing for dogs,

683
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,400
like having that on your radar,
you should be going to the vet

684
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,160
every year at least, because our
pets really do hide a lot of

685
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,880
things.
And a trusted vet will palpate

686
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
their stomach.
They will check, you know,

687
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,040
especially as they get older,
they'll check their eyesight,

688
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
their hearing to see if there's
like a little bit of a change.

689
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,760
They'll notice any kind of
change in their weight, which is

690
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,840
huge.
Like we don't have like

691
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,520
veterinary grade scales here.
I mean, I guess I could carry

692
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,720
Kira 50 lbs and stand on my
scale, but you know, all those

693
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:07,440
things that they do at like your
Wellness check every year.

694
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Really important just to see any
changes, but also you can do

695
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,400
your 30 to $60.00, you know,
heart heartworm test.

696
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360
You can even take a fecal sample
in and have things checked for

697
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
other parasites.
So having that annual check is

698
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,000
so important to me.
I feel like what we might miss

699
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,240
as uneducated pet parents,
right?

700
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:31,640
Like especially like if you are
new to pet parenting, your vet

701
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,280
should have an eye on your dog
every year, your cat every year.

702
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600
I took my cat and my my dogs in
this year and it was like such a

703
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,840
mess.
I think I told you, Jessica,

704
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,200
because I usually take them and
then Chris, my husband is

705
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,800
retired now.
So he took them and like nobody

706
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,880
knew what was going on.
Like the vets assistants are

707
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,800
different.
I guess they're in less

708
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
experience.
The vet is just a single vet who

709
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,720
like comes in and performs
whatever she's been asked to

710
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,840
perform and chit chats with you
and checks the dog.

711
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,880
But like, she's not going
through like, did you do this?

712
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,760
Do you want to do this?
And like, she knows that we're

713
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
pretty educated pet parents, so
she just assumes we're going to

714
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,200
ask for what we want.
And he the reason we went in was

715
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,640
for heartworm testing.
Dental check, right?

716
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Like do I need a dental for them
now?

717
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,160
And you know, your overall
Wellness, like take their end

718
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,120
blood work because all of my
pets, I get blood work once a

719
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,240
year.
And for my my seniors, I should

720
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,040
probably be doing it sooner, but
I don't usually do it because

721
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
they're really healthy.
I don't go in more than once a

722
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,400
year unless they're healthy
usually.

723
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,200
But they didn't do the
heartworm, they didn't do the

724
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,720
the dental.
Like I had to call back and be

725
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,920
like, so does he need a dental?
Because like Satchmo just got

726
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,560
his dental last week because his
breath smells.

727
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
But the vet was like, I didn't
see anything concerning.

728
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,000
So it was like this back and
forth.

729
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,600
So really having one person who
handles your vet visits is

730
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,600
smart.
Like whomever is the most like

731
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,520
educated on the topic of pet
care would probably be my

732
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,760
choice.
Having them go and talk to the

733
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
vet, asking the vet questions,
but also remember worrying that

734
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,080
you have a choice when it comes
to like, OK, it's a negative

735
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,760
heartworm.
Do you want to buy heartguard?

736
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,680
No, like we got our negative
heartworm and we haven't bought

737
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080
any heartguard.
I literally, I think I stopped

738
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,240
using them around the pandemic.
Like I just stopped.

739
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200
I had them.
They eventually expired.

740
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Like, I just like, I didn't see
the point, Like I just stopped.

741
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,280
And so my vet doesn't even offer
them anymore for us.

742
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,920
She definitely hasn't talked to
me about, you know, for the cat,

743
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,920
getting him on any heartworm
meds.

744
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,360
But again, we live somewhere
where heartworm is not super

745
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,320
common.
If it were, I'm sure we'd be

746
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
having different conversations
with our vets because, you know,

747
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,400
pretty much every time we went
in Louisiana, I was in

748
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,200
southwestern Louisiana, any time
we went in, it was like posters

749
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,000
about heartworm, the picture of
the heartworm, because it was so

750
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,880
common and so rampant in that
area.

751
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
So knowing where you live,
knowing your respecter, like

752
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,240
Jessica said, and just having
that open conversation with your

753
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,120
vet is so important.
But remembering, again, that you

754
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,840
do have other options.
I mean, there are natural

755
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,880
approaches, Jessica, I'm sure.
Yeah.

756
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,280
Well, like I said, I mean it all
starts with the immune.

757
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
It all starts with.
The immune system, because if

758
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,400
you, if you are able to handle,
if your immune system is able to

759
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,960
handle invaders and kill them,
then you don't need to load the

760
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,920
system up with all of these
chemicals.

761
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,160
I mean, I get Kim's heartworm
test every six months because we

762
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,400
were in Central TX and again,
another place where heartworm is

763
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,720
rampant.
And I was concerned.

764
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,840
I educated myself prior to
moving there because I was so

765
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,560
worried about it.
And I took not only the free

766
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,640
course, Dr. Will Falconer has a
free heartworm course where you

767
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,920
can start to learn about them.
But I actually paid for his like

768
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,520
full like I'm going to really
dive deep into heartworm for

769
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,600
you.
Of course I paid for it because

770
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
I was that concerned.
So this isn't me over here

771
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
going.
It's not like no exactly.

772
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680
I'm not taking it seriously.
It is very serious.

773
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,360
We do need to be very cautious
of it and I'm not telling you to

774
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,080
do what I do or do what I tell
you to do other than like go

775
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,880
educate yourself on it because
that is where you have to be an

776
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,600
empowered pet parent today.
You have to be an empowered

777
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,040
parent.
You have to be just an empowered

778
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,320
person, like individual for
yourself.

779
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,640
And our pets are no different.
We have to, we, we have to take

780
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
it upon ourselves to educate
ourselves, to have educated

781
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,600
conversations, to ask educated
questions.

782
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,800
And so for me, when I moved to
an area that I knew, and here

783
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,880
I'm in the Hampton Roads area in
Virginia, it's rampant here as

784
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,560
well.
I absolutely.

785
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,880
So I, you know, I just have to
be comfortable with what I'm

786
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,200
doing for her as far as keeping
her healthy, making sure her

787
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,960
immune system is strong.
And you know, maybe because she

788
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,120
is aging, she's 11 years old
now.

789
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Like maybe I will start micro
dosing some Ivermectin for her

790
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,320
just to be on the safe side.
I'm not opposed to doing that.

791
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,440
I think I think it's the safest
thing we can do if we have to do

792
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,320
something in addition to keeping
them, you know, just otherwise

793
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,680
healthy.
And then I do, you know,

794
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,440
essential oils, which I will say
after talking to Rita Hogan, I

795
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,080
have been cutting back my
essential oil usage because she,

796
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,120
as much as she loves essential
oils, she also educated me on

797
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,480
being a responsible steward of
the resources on the planet and

798
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,880
that essential oils just don't
usually fit that bill.

799
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,480
I feel confident in where I get
my essential oils from that she

800
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,400
is doing a good job of that.
But like these huge, like MLM

801
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,320
companies like doTerra and Young
Living, I don't have any

802
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,360
confidence that they're not, you
know, out there destroying the

803
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,640
planet to get us.
These very concentrated, very

804
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680
concentrated they're.
Very, very concentrated.

805
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,200
So I have just kind of tapered
back my usage of what I have and

806
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,160
using it as necessary as opposed
to just Willy nilly on

807
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,520
everything all the time.
Yeah.

808
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Like I was, I think this is a
case where I would still

809
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,600
continue to use essential oils
because first of all, we're

810
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,160
diluting them.
We're not putting straight

811
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,760
essential oil on our pets.
Generally speaking.

812
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,720
There may be cases here and
there where we would need

813
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,240
something that especially if
we're dealing with like a tumor

814
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,680
or something, we might want to
use something more concentrated.

815
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,120
But I'm diluting what I use on
her and it's effective.

816
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,640
So, you know, there.
And then I also, when I, when I

817
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,920
moved to Texas, I was very
intentional about the plants I

818
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,280
put out.
I put out a lot of catnip and

819
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Rosemary and lemongrass because
I wanted to make sure that my

820
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,360
yard was not a hospitable place
for fleas and ticks and

821
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,680
mosquitoes.
And so there's there is a lot

822
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,000
that we can do without pumping
our pets full of chemicals.

823
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Yeah, always.
Like we've talked about with the

824
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,360
fleas and ticks, you know,
standing water is going to call

825
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,640
the mosquitoes over there are,
you know, natural sprays you can

826
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
use.
I know I use, I started with I

827
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,960
use mosquito squad and I started
they have a natural option.

828
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,840
It just wasn't enough.
My yard is probably the the only

829
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,840
yard in all of the desert that
has two huge trees and grass.

830
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Yes.
So all the mosquitoes, you know,

831
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,240
this milkshake brings all the
mosquitoes to the yard.

832
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
And I'm looking at this tree.
It's humongous.

833
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,360
Like it's just huge and it's
what really well established and

834
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
it brings all the birds and it
brings all the the mosquitoes.

835
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,480
And so it wasn't enough.
Like the natural spray wasn't

836
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,760
enough.
If I only had grass, it would

837
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,880
probably be fine.
And it would.

838
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,560
And I have all the front yard is
all rocks.

839
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,560
So really not an area where, you
know, mosquitoes are really

840
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,520
going to be drawn, especially
because it doesn't rain much.

841
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,880
But if you have like standing
water, that is going to be where

842
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
they come the life cycles like
every three weeks.

843
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,000
So we have to get sprayed every
three weeks.

844
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000
You know, you want to make sure
you are consistent with any

845
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
sprays that you use.
Wonderside makes a yard spray.

846
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
But if you live somewhere with
like when it rains a lot,

847
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
you're, you're basically
applying it after every heavy

848
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,480
rain, which gets expensive.
So it's all about like what you

849
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,800
can do, what is practical, what
is in the budget, and if just

850
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,480
you know, a pill is what's the
most practical thing for you,

851
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,440
then that's what you should
choose.

852
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,680
I am more scared of heartworm
than I am of anything flea and

853
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,360
tick form just because I feel
like those can be acute if those

854
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,040
can be managed easier without
like a monthly preventative.

855
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,920
If you're going hiking, you've
got like Wonderside and you

856
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,200
spray them before you spray them
after, you know, like again, you

857
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,720
make sure that you check for
ticks and stuff before you come

858
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,600
back inside.
You have to check yourself.

859
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,240
I mean, I don't spray myself
with wonderside before I'm going

860
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,920
hiking and I'm walking in the
same areas that my pets are

861
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,840
walking, right.
And you know, socks and fur just

862
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,120
as attractive to A to a tick
really.

863
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,840
So to me, it's like not that
serious.

864
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,520
I, I recognize that ticks do
give a very serious, they

865
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,880
transmit very serious diseases,
but I just feel like we can do

866
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:14,560
things that are a little less, I
guess, structured like we can do

867
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,800
it case by case basis.
But when it comes to heartworm,

868
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,800
if you live somewhere like Miami
where mosquitoes are an all year

869
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,000
round thing, you may need that
consistent monthly treatment

870
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,360
where it takes that fear away
and it actually does protect

871
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,320
your pet.
Just because they're on the

872
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,760
heartworm doesn't mean that they
can't the heartworm preventer

873
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,360
doesn't mean that they can't get
heartworm.

874
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,400
Like that's the, it's, it's,
it's one of those things where

875
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,480
they might get it and then it
just kills it because that's

876
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,000
what it does, right?
It like kills it once they get

877
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,480
it.
So you may not even and know

878
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,440
that it happened, but it is
something that you should do if

879
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,480
you're not going to be doing
everything else.

880
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Like that is something that
depending on where you live, it

881
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,120
really is.
Yes, it's a toxic and yes, like

882
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
you can choose something like
ivermectin and something else,

883
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,600
but I think it's less toxic than
the pesticides that we put on

884
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,680
like their backs for fleas and
ticks.

885
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,560
I really do.
Those are just, those are

886
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,880
straight pesticides.
Ivermectin I don't consider a

887
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,400
pesticide.
I consider a medicine.

888
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,680
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

889
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,120
I don't know and Tina is asking
about heart guard.

890
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,600
She thinks it has ivermectin.
We did talk about the plain

891
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:26,960
basic heart guard is ivermectin.
That is correct.

892
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:32,560
So the only thing I want to
leave people with is regardless

893
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,800
of what you choose to do for
your pets, please read

894
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,240
everything about it.
Ask for the product insert, read

895
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:44,760
the product packaging.
Be comfortable with what you are

896
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,080
putting in your pet before you
put it in your pet.

897
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,080
If you choose to do all the
things that your vet recommends

898
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
you go ahead and do that.
You know if that's what you feel

899
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,600
is going to be best for your
pets.

900
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:05,760
Just please read all of the
product information before doing

901
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,720
that.
So like don't let your vet give

902
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,560
it to them in clinic.
Take that packaging home.

903
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,880
Read everything, read all the
inserts.

904
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,000
If it's too small for you to
read, pull it up on their

905
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,440
website.
You can do that too.

906
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,320
You can do that before even
buying it.

907
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,480
So just inform yourself so that
you are aware of what you're

908
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,040
putting in your pet's body
before you put it in your pet's

909
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,800
body and that you were
comfortable with what you were

910
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,720
doing.
That's the only thing I'm going

911
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,400
to, I'm going to leave you with.
Well, perfect.

912
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600
So I just want to know if
anybody just uses heart guard,

913
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,440
regular heart guard for their
dogs that is labeled for dogs.

914
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Let me know where you get it
because all I can find is heart

915
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,080
guard plus for dogs and heart
guard for cats.

916
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Obviously you can just use the.
Heart guard for.

917
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,040
Cats for dogs and just give them
more of it.

918
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
One thing I will say is that
even though I'm saying that

919
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,000
that's fine for this particular
case because ivermectin is

920
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,280
species appropriate for both, do
not do that with flea and tick

921
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,640
medications.
You cannot give flea and tick

922
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400
medication for dogs to a cat.
You might kill them and vice

923
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,120
versa.
Please be super careful about

924
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,240
giving the wrong thing to the
wrong pet.

925
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,720
Read the labels, read the
dosage.

926
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,880
When in doubt, call your vet.
Hold off for the night.

927
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,320
Figure out what you're supposed
to be doing so that you don't

928
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,040
hurt them.
Because a lot of times we're

929
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,880
talking about these side effects
happening with perfect dosage.

930
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,000
Yeah.
And perfect.

931
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,760
And even if you do it perfectly,
you might have these terrible

932
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680
side effects.
So imagine if you're doing it

933
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,360
wrong.
Yeah, we could have even worse

934
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,320
side effects.
So always knowing what you're

935
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,520
giving and who you're giving it
to.

936
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000
As a professional pet sitter,
that was one of my biggest fears

937
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,560
was always like I was following
not the vet's recommendations,

938
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
but the pet parents
recommendations.

939
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,120
And if the pet parent
misunderstood from the vet and

940
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,400
then told me to do something
wrong, then it would be my

941
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000
fault.
But it wouldn't be because I did

942
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,800
this wrong on purpose.
So what I would do for my team

943
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,000
and for myself is we would
research what it is.

944
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,440
We would verify that the dosage
was in line with what, you know,

945
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
the medication kind of says.
And if there was any of them, it

946
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
was completely like random or
weird.

947
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,720
We would call the vet directly
and be like, Hey, we're we're

948
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,320
pet sitting, you know, Kim,
we're being told that this is

949
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,160
the amount that she needs of XYZ
and just verify, you know,

950
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,680
because you don't, you can't
remove what you've put in.

951
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,720
You cannot.
You can bathe that.

952
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,960
Dog all day long, but that flea
and tick stuff in the the is

953
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,000
already already in their
bloodstream.

954
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,520
And again, it's in your
bloodstream because you applied

955
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,360
it.
If you don't wear.

956
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,560
I always used to wear gloves.
I was like that.

957
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,400
I was like that nitpicky.
I would not touch it when I was

958
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
giving it.
I even knew that I shouldn't

959
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,480
ingest it or have it on my
hands.

960
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,920
I don't use that stuff anymore,
especially with kids around, but

961
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,600
I would always be super careful
to wash my hands or wear gloves

962
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,720
and I would always just, you
know, try to minimize the side

963
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:14,680
effects by keeping an eye on
them if I'm doing multiple

964
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,680
things, not doing them on the
same day.

965
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,880
So like if you are doing a flea
and take separate from a heart

966
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,680
guard pill, don't do them on the
same day.

967
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,920
Maybe alternate every two weeks.
Like since they're monthly, do

968
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,480
like what, 2 weeks and then the
next 1-2 weeks later just so

969
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,200
that you know that you're giving
the body time to recover.

970
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,760
There's so many things that we
could talk about because, you

971
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,120
know, user error is so common.
But also I feel like your vet's

972
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,440
going to be like it's fine.
Just like doctors are going to

973
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,360
be like it's fine.
And then you realize, well,

974
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,040
maybe it wasn't fine for my pet.
Yeah.

975
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,480
It wasn't.
I know it's amazing the things

976
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,040
that we like we change doing
when we learn all of these

977
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,320
things that we learn because my
brother's dog still eats a bunch

978
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,400
of kibble like he gets other he
gets fresh food too, but they

979
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,240
still like his base diet is
still kibble.

980
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,400
And it's funny because like, I
have my routine down for feeding

981
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,840
Kim.
I always wash my hands before

982
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,960
and after getting her plate
ready.

983
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Of course, it's just what I do
and I don't think about it and I

984
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,560
don't have a problem touching
it.

985
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:30,800
But like I go to grab his food
and I'm like, I don't even want

986
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,720
to touch this because I know how
nasty, you know what I mean?

987
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,040
Like it's, it's like washing my
hands isn't enough.

988
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Isn't enough.
Yeah, I.

989
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,560
So I, I agree with you and it's
funny because I have to tell my

990
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,760
kids like because I'll give, I,
I use a lot of bears, bikes,

991
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,400
trees, so it's freeze dried raw
food.

992
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
So I'll be like, you can give,
you know, Kira a treat, you can

993
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,080
give the cat a treat, but you
need to wash your hands after.

994
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,920
And they're like, why?
Because it doesn't look gooey

995
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,200
and it's not like the freeze
dried raw stuff that we

996
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,240
rehydrate looks gooey and stuff.
So you know that you need to

997
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,680
wash your hands.
I'm like, you need to wash your

998
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,960
hands after touching any dog
food, whether it's kibble,

999
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,040
whether it's raw, whether it's
freeze dried, whatever it is, I

1000
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,640
don't care how cooked it is.
Gently cooked, Fully cooked.

1001
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,800
You know, like nuclear cooked.
It doesn't matter.

1002
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Like I.
Know I'm so and I'm so reckless

1003
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,800
like I really, I truly am like
if you were to like walk behind

1004
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,800
me, I am so reckless.
Like with my cats, they're

1005
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,640
freeze dried bra.
I just like hand it to them,

1006
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040
toss it down and I just get back
in bed and I'm like, hopefully I

1007
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,280
don't rub my eye in the morning.
Like I just, I'm so reckless.

1008
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960
I'm not.
I'm I'm, I'm a little, I'm a

1009
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,400
little, a bit of a germaphobe.
So like I'm like, but I'm.

1010
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,480
I'm a, I'm a, I'm a huge
germaphobe with, with kibble

1011
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:59,320
because I know how, how much
more prevalent these bacteria,

1012
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,880
the pathogenic bacteria are in
kibble versus the raw products

1013
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,800
that I buy commercially.
Like I'm there is a 0 tolerance

1014
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,200
for raw products in the pet food
market.

1015
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Nobody gives a crap with kibble.
They are laced with salmonella

1016
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,160
and E coli.
And like I, I just, I don't

1017
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,400
know, like there's this part of
my brain that is like, you're

1018
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,360
fine.
And then I see a bag of kibble

1019
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,880
and I'm like germs, right?
Like.

1020
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,600
I mean I I am a germaphobe for
all of it.

1021
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,600
And also reminder wash your pet
bowls no matter what you feel.

1022
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Yes, every.
Every day, every day and the.

1023
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080
Water bowl wash it before you
refill it and refill it daily

1024
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,600
please.
I wash them every day.

1025
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,320
Your pets?
Yeah.

1026
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Your pets deserve fresh water.
Absolutely.

1027
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,520
So yeah, guys, thank you so much
for joining us.

1028
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,600
We're going to wrap it up here.
Do you have any idea what you

1029
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,800
want to talk about next week?
I was thinking, I was thinking

1030
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,800
of how the tariffs might impact
pet food prices, pet products.

1031
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,640
I was talking to two founders
who are going to have to raise

1032
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,640
their prices immensely if
nothing happens before, you

1033
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,400
know, the tariffs are going to
be rolled out.

1034
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,560
People are people, there are
manufacturers who are not

1035
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,160
ordering stuff because they
don't know, like when it leaves

1036
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
China, what the tariffs going to
be.

1037
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Oh, sorry, I.
Say, didn't we?

1038
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,520
Like we paused all tariffs
except for China, right?

1039
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,680
So China?
I have no idea.

1040
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,040
Like.
Currently there's a 90 day pause

1041
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,800
on all countries except for
China.

1042
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Well.
All every single poop bag in the

1043
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,480
country is made in China.
So if you want to stock up on

1044
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,920
stuff, do it now, whether it's a
earth friendly poo bag or not an

1045
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,960
earth friendly poo bag.
They're all manufactured in

1046
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,280
China and a lot of people are
saying that they're not even

1047
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,920
placing orders.
Anything that's fabric that

1048
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,880
comes from China, anything that
might be hit by a tariff.

1049
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,680
You might want to get stuff now
if you have the budget for it to

1050
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,760
like pre purchase.
On things that like supplements

1051
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,280
because ingredients are going to
be affected.

1052
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,600
So just I think it'd be cool to
talk about that and see, but I

1053
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,760
guess if yeah, it's a pretty.
Not all a.

1054
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Sprawling.
Topic.

1055
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,440
But we can try to do like a
bird's eye view.

1056
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Yeah, of course.
It would be, I mean, I don't

1057
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,960
think, I don't even think the
administration knows what the

1058
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,560
details are on the tariffs at
this moment.

1059
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,920
He is he Trump is saying that he
wants to kind of he was maybe

1060
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,920
like backing off a little bit
off the tariffs, but the the

1061
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,080
tariffs for us like obviously
it's going to affect everybody's

1062
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,880
bottom line.
But when it comes to you know,

1063
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,600
pet stuff that maybe your pets
really need, like you have an

1064
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,720
older pet on some kind of
supplement, even the

1065
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,840
everything's going to go up
because most packaging is create

1066
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,000
is made in China.
So if you get something that is,

1067
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,320
you know, this, the product
itself is not sourced from

1068
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,440
China, but the actual jar or
whatever, most of that comes

1069
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,800
from China.
So that's why everything might

1070
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,080
go up.
So I would love to talk about

1071
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,960
that and talk about, you know,
what it is that that that will

1072
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,000
be affected.
It may not be affected.

1073
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,320
How to move forward, how to even
just talk about budgeting for

1074
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,320
these things And like the
unexpected, even even without

1075
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,200
the tariffs, we have to budget
for unexpected with our pets.

1076
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,880
We do absolutely, yeah, I, I
think that's a, a good.

1077
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320
I don't like, again, I don't
know how much we could get

1078
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,600
through in in an hour with that,
but we can certainly try and

1079
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920
we'll just go.
Off of the latest news on the

1080
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,560
tariffs that day right like
whatever because it changes

1081
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:05,480
every single day the trade war
of sorts that's happening we

1082
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,120
will just talk about what the
news says that day as to what's

1083
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:14,760
coming and how to react to that
because like I said I've spoken

1084
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,320
to two founders of two different
types of pet products and when

1085
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,800
you do when you do this yeah
when you do this when you do the

1086
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,840
peace sign you get balloons I.
Know maybe it's like, no, you

1087
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,560
only get it once.
I'm not maybe I didn't.

1088
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,200
I didn't opt in.
So I maybe so, yeah.

1089
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,320
So two people, one of them makes
poo bags and the other one makes

1090
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,680
or poo bags and other things.
But the majority is poo bags.

1091
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,160
And the additive is made here in
the US, but it's shipped to

1092
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,040
China's to make the poo bags and
then shipped back.

1093
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,080
And like the tariff situation is
changing so quickly that they

1094
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,440
don't want to place orders
because when it don't.

1095
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Know what's going to happen?
You don't know what?

1096
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,720
They're going to, you don't know
how much it's going to cost to

1097
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,160
just get it into the US at that
point or out of China.

1098
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,600
And then the other one makes pet
products like collars and

1099
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,480
leashes and things like that.
And it's all fabric.

1100
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
And obviously the US doesn't
make fabric unless it's like a

1101
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,640
super high end fabric.
We don't make our own fabric

1102
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,640
here.
So everything is blue.

1103
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,960
We used to make so much fabric
in in North Carolina, didn't we?

1104
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,520
I mean, we make furniture in
North Carolina.

1105
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,600
We do make.
Furniture in North Carolina, but

1106
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,040
I but yeah.
Only the Super high end fabrics

1107
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,720
are made in the United States
and we're they're very, very,

1108
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,520
very niche.
So not right now like obviously

1109
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,240
fast fashions, all Asia and fast
fashion effects, not just the

1110
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,880
humans, but also the pets,
right?

1111
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,960
And like even the better quality
pet product are all, everything,

1112
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,800
all those materials are coming
from abroad.

1113
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,120
So it's going to affect us if it
moves forward.

1114
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600
And again, it's like we don't
really know what to do, but we

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need to take some steps to maybe
just prioritize what we can and

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cannot live without.
Obviously a new collar.

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Yeah, but.
You know that supplement that

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you can't live without or that
your pet likes depends on or

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medications are gonna go up?
Probably a lot of things gonna

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happen.
So we'll talk about that next

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week, yes.
Let's do that.

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,960
All right guys, Don't forget to
go watch Common Ground on Amazon

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Prime.
And my show today, this week is

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Friday, not Thursday.
Thursday is a crazy mommy day

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for me.
Zoo in the morning with Mila and

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then a performance in the
afternoon with Noah at school.

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So I am going to go live on
Friday at 3:00 PM Mountain to

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,480
Standard Time for Covered in Pet
Hair.

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01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,720
A boozy show for pet lovers with
a groomer that I met in Super at

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Super Zoo who is a fellow Latina
and so cute and so just so such

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a cool, such a cool young woman.
So I wanted to bring her on and

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just get to know her a little
better.

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I love it.
I love it.

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01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,920
All right guys, have a great
rest of your week and if you

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,440
have any other follow up
questions, we'll talk to you

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,440
later.
Yeah, comment.

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Below if you find heart guard
for dogs without anything but

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I've remixed it bye.