How Green Juju’s Soil Probiotic Transformed Dog Symptoms (New Study Results)
How Green Juju’s Soil Probiotic Transformed Dog Symptoms (New Study Results) takes you behind the scenes of a brand‑new study on one of the most talked‑about gut health products in pet nutrition. In this episode, Billy from Green Juju walks us through the research they conducted with Innovative Pet Lab on Soil, their veggie‑fermented probiotic blend, and what they actually saw in the dogs who took it. We dig into which symptoms improved (think digestion, skin, stool quality, and overall vitality), how those changes were measured, and why this kind of targeted probiotic support can be different from just grabbing any product off the shelf. You’ll come away with a clearer understanding of what Soil is, how it’s made, and how to decide if a focused probiotic like this might belong in your own dog’s holistic health plan.
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Welcome to the Pet Parenting
Reset podcast.
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If you're new here, my name is
Jess and this is a space where
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we talk about all things health,
span, and quality of life for
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your pets and you too.
I'm so excited that you're here.
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Let's dive in.
Think of how to start this.
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Do you wanna?
Do you?
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You've been here so many times.
Do you want to answer show?
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Well, you know you are not
focused so.
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No, okay, all right, welcome
back, parent.
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Today's episode is actually I'm
learning right along with you.
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So Billy reached out and he
said, hey, we have some really
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cool new information that we put
together and I want to talk
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about it.
And I said sure.
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So I know we're talking about
the new probiotic, but that's
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about all I know what we're
talking about.
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So I'm just going to let you
take it away.
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Well.
Yeah, I appreciate you having me
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on the show.
And you know, it's it's a
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interesting thing that we sort
of so when you do something like
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this.
So when you have something that
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is a completely new concept and
something, you know, we're very
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proud of doing things like that
generally.
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But when you do something that's
never been done before, you
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know, there's a lot of there's
associated like vagueness with
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it.
So you have these instances
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where you're like, OK, this is
and I'll go over this, but this
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is the concept.
That's what we're doing.
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And then you move to, oh, we can
see that it's having these
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health benefits and pets.
And then and that information
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should not be downplayed at all.
I talk about that a lot with
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people who are like, you know,
go to their vet, they go, oh,
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yeah, I started doing this diet
and everything.
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You know, all these issues sort
of subsided.
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And they're like, well, there's
no scientific study to prove
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that.
Well, So what I can physically
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see it in my dog.
My dog is about higher quality
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of life now.
And I think that's where, like a
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lot of disconnect happens, you
know, between, you know, some of
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the conventional.
So that information is always
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really great.
Like a really great example of
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that is, you know, our wild
fermented mushroom probiotic
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people all over the country
since its inception have been
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telling us that it helps tear
States and that is totally
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great.
And I have no idea why, you
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know, there's people I might
have theories, there's people
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who have theories, you know,
Rita Hogan, etcetera.
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But the the real kicker there is
the result that I'm happy about.
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So those things are great and,
and we've been seeing this in
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the results, but one of the
things we always try to do is we
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always try to get as much data
as possible.
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And this was a really
interesting way to get clinical
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research done so we could
actually prove some factors of
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this.
And one of the reasons that we
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chose innovative Pet Labs was
because they're what they're
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measuring is like quality of
life factors like we love, you
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know, bacteria in general and
you know, you know, measuring
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like the good versus bad
bacteria makeup and the gut and
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that kind of stuff.
But sometimes for people too,
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that's kind of like like a
abstract concept.
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OK, cool.
So my dog is going to have more
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good bacteria, but what does
that mean?
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You know, in terms of like, what
do I actually physically see?
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Because that's what we really
want, right?
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Like we're when you take your
turmeric every day, that's great
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that you can list off all these
health benefits, but what you're
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really looking for is for your
joints not to hurt, you know,
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And so so it's the way to do
that.
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But for those, those are the
people who don't know what I'm
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talking about with our
probiotics, we have three of
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them.
We have farm leaf and soil.
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probiotics, the whole concept
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was we knew that traditionally
made probiotics have like a
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limited number of strains.
And we knew that fermented foods
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have hundreds and thousands of
strains, strains that we don't
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even know how to measure, which
is one of the reasons that
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there's a plus on all those.
So it's kind of funny because
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our mind still wants to wrap
around, oh, there's this many.
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So like Leaf says, different
strains of healthy yeast and
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bacteria, 300 plus.
So people immediately go, oh,
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there's 300.
No, there's more than we can
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measure.
And the whole point is to bring
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out the food culture, the the
entire culture and not the
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actual strains themselves are
not isolating the strains.
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We're not identifying them and
going, OK, we have this much of
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this and also they'll vary every
time because they grow up that
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food culture every time.
So we wanted to sort of, we have
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fermented products, but we know
that there's tons of animals
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that can't do fermented foods.
We know there's animals that,
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you know, can't do certain
foods, dairy, etcetera.
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And so when we looked at that,
you know, we said how do we take
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all the multitude of those
bacteria and put them somewhere
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else?
And we found a really cool lab
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in Canada who's able to do that
for us.
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And so, you know, we took
fermented raw milk, we took
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kombucha and we took wild
fermented plants and we grew out
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the entire culture.
And so, and one of the things
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that I'll talk about a lot is in
farm and leaf, the one that has
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both yeast and bacteria, we
actually, the lab actually grew
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them out separately the species.
So they, they put one in a plate
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that is conducive to yeast and
one in a plate that's conducive
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to bacteria.
And so there's equal amounts of
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yeast and bacteria in both of
those, which is one of the
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reasons I think it has such a
leaf, for example, has such a
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profound effect on yeast issues
even more than foods that
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contain good and high amounts of
yeast or a single strain of
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yeast, in fact.
And by the way, this is all
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total tangents because, you
know, we're talking about oil
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here.
But I just had someone tell me
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when I was in, I did some events
in California recently and I
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would, I just had someone tell
me that they had tried every
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yeast for, for yeast years.
They tried every yeast protocol,
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supplement products, low carb
diet, nothing ever worked for
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this lab.
And within a week and 1/2 on
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leaf, the years were completely
cleared.
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And so that's like medicine.
That's like medicine level, you
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know, because you know, we
always talk about like when you
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work with your clients, it's,
it's a process.
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You got to give these things
time, right, in order to do
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that.
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concept of all of these
probiotics is like, how do we
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bring nature?
How do we bring the native
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bacteria that animals evolved
with back into the bowl?
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And because at one point cats
and dogs were constantly
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inoculated with, you know, all
this bacteria consistently when
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they slept outside, when they
lived in the forest, when they,
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you know, were eating off the
ground and that kind of thing.
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It sort of goes back to there's
there's research right now going
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into the Amish because they
don't have allergies, but we
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don't need research.
I know exactly why they don't
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have allergies.
And it's because, you know,
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those kids are barefoot all
summer and they're in manure up
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to their, you know, ankles and
they're just living outside
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constantly.
In fact, I was on an Amish farm
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recently and all the like 10
kids were just playing outside
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and I was like, Oh my God, it's
like how kids are supposed to
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be, you know, And so it really
does bring that concept back.
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And I think that's where you're
going to see when we talk about
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the, the, the research here, I
think that's where you're going
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to see a lot of the data go.
Because we really wanted to take
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this like huge concept and boil
it down to, you know, some real
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quality of life factors.
Because you would expect all of
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these different health markers
to change if you're, you know,
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constantly inoculating the gut
with all these different
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bacteria.
So it is we wanted to prove the
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diversity versus potency, OK.
Well, and I want to kind of
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frame this a little bit because
one of the topics of
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conversation that I have been
having and researching a lot
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lately is around probiotics in
general.
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And I think it's something that
some people are starting to talk
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about in a very different way
because one, I am not anti
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capitalism at all, but we do
live in a very consumeristic
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society.
And what happens when something
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takes off, everybody starts
making it, everybody starts
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putting it in their products.
And that's what we're seeing
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with probiotics right now.
They're in, I mean, they're in
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so many pet products and it's
like, OK, but if you're getting
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the same 3 strains in 10
different products that you're
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using throughout the month or
the quarter, then are you
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actually doing more damage than
good when you're only exposing
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your pet to the same strains
over and over and over again?
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So I think that is where farm
leaf and soil are so different
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from everything else that's on
the market.
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Well, and then you couple that
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with the fact that, you know,
under AFCO guidelines, there's
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only certain bacteria that are
actually allowed in food and
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feed products.
So it's a little bit better and
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more the Wild West when it comes
to supplements and that kind of
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stuff.
You can do more interesting
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things, but but you know, you
have this small list of like
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studied probiotics, but I would
posit that like I did this in a
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presentation once.
I, I was talking about, you
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know, multiple bacteria and
fermented foods.
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And I said, I was like, here's a
bacteria and I kind of like
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played the audience in this, but
I, I listed this bacteria and I
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said, here's all the things that
this bacteria does.
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like, you know, helps
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glutathione pathways and, you
know, creates this vitamin and
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does all these different things.
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everybody's head like go down
and they're writing down this
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bacteria.
Like there are many thoughts I
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have got to get this bacteria.
But my point was don't focus on
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that bacteria.
Every bacteria is going to have
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a list like that of, you know,
that's that's a beneficial
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bacteria.
So when we, I was positing that
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we need to essentially focus on
getting as many of those good
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bacteria as possible because
they're all doing things that we
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don't even understand yet.
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revert back to the model from
nature.
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But you can't just leave it
there because just saying
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something is good because it's
natural as a logical fallacy.
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So we can't leave it there.
So that's why we do interesting
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stuff like, and if you're
listening to this, I'm holding
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up a piece of paper, which I
never do.
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I never have reference material.
But this is new enough where
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like, I couldn't just recall all
this from memory.
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So don't don't blame me.
I've been on you a lot.
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Because I actually just started
putting the video on Spotify so
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people can see it so.
Oh, got it.
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Well, and I will tell you I was
going to send this to you
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previously, but there's the we
haven't got the final version
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from the lab yet and there is
like some spelling errors and
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stuff in it.
So I was like I'm going to wait
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on that to be able to do that.
So, and actually it is a good
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moment to shout out, you know,
we're doing a lot more with our
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vet vet program this year and
next week I'm actually sending
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all this research and some
sample probiotics to all of the
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180 plus vets in our.
So that will be.
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And by the way, green Juju is
small enough to where it's
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literally me driving up to the
plant and sending out, you know,
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on over 100 boxes via the the US
mail.
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The one that we did the clinical
research on was soil and soil is
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derived from Bailey's blend.
So all the probiotics here come
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from cilantro, broccoli, green
cabbage, you know, everything
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that's in Bailey's blend.
And you know, this was just
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created in my kitchen.
It was, I took Bailey's blind
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and added salt to it to
intensify the ferment and lower
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the pH faster and fermented it
for an office 3 days or a week,
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I can't remember.
But I, I fermented it until the
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pH was about 3.5 because I knew
that's kind of the sweet spot
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there.
And then I sent it to the lab
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and they did their did their
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The only one I had problems with
was the raw milk sample.
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It's hard to get raw milk across
the Canadian border.
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So eventually I just took raw
off of it and they accepted the
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sample.
So that was good for me.
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By the way, I have I have soil
in my tea right now.
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Yeah, just throw that off there.
That's one of those things I I
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like every day in Mabel's water.
Mabel, my daughter, for those
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who are don't know about my
life, which I don't know why you
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would, but so every day I put
like fiber and soil and whatnot
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in her water because she can't
like taste them.
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like when you have a four year
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old, you got to do everything
you can because they start to
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get, she's not as piggy as most
kids, but she is getting that
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way.
So that is interesting.
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So going to this research, So
IPL measures specific factors in
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relation to the gut And the one,
the ones I want to talk about
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today are in relation to the
ability to, for the body to deal
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with toxins, gut diversity, and
mostly and also inflammation.
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Because we, we talk about a lot,
you know, everything starts in
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the gut and inflammation and
other gut communicates with
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everything just generally.
And so that's what I like about
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this is we've seen so many
animals that have gotten better
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with baseline conditions just
generally in, in that from our
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like anecdotal evidence, but
that's kind of like, so the
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first thing.
So there was several factors
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this so they, so there's a
testing factor and then there's
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a sort of reporting factor.
And so the testing factor is a
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little bit different.
That has to do with, you know,
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finite data and the reporting
data has to do with what people
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are actually seeing in this.
So there's 47 dogs, which is a
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great sample size, especially we
shot for 50 and to get 47 to
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actually do all of this and make
this work.
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Shout out to IPL because they're
really, really great to work
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with.
I would highly recommend doing
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just their Test in general, but
they sort of streamlined the
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process for everything.
So that was a really great
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thing.
So the thing that they looked at
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in the the symptom sort of
reduction or the symptoms in
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general is frequent infections,
panting, flatulence,
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Constipation, lethargy,
excessive hunger, excessive
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licking, skin and coat issues,
GI which included vomiting and
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diarrhea and then anxiety, which
I thought was an interesting
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one.
Just general and there will be
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some interesting data later
about size of dogs, which I
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thought was pretty funny in
relation to their leg symptoms.
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So first one to look at was
frequent infections.
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Those that reported frequent
infections, the overall
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improvement in the two months
was by 91%.
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So basically all the dogs that
reported frequent infections
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basically went down to it
essentially cleared up all of
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those.
By the way, I can't are are you
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frozen or am I?
I am good.
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So maybe it's just on your end.
Can you hear me at all?
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Or is it just the screen that's
frozen?
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Are you is that better?
Can you, can you hear me?
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And I go with no better.
Yeah, you're good.
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I mean, I could hear and see you
the whole time.
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So I I think we're fine.
Oh, you were frozen.
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So I I just don't want to, I
just don't want to keep rambling
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on it.
And we couldn't use it.
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No, you're good.
I will pause though, since we
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had this little snafu that all
three of the green Juju
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probiotics and the innovative
pet lab testing are available at
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Wild Wellness Pets.
So go there and and buy them.
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Oh, there you go.
Yes, absolutely.
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So that is a great pause.
So, so anyway, so going back to
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what I was talking about in
terms of the reporting, so they
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saw a 91% improvement in
frequent infections, which is
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really great.
And 84% reduction in panting,
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75% reduction in flatulence, 74%
reduction in Constipation.
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That's what with both of those,
that's what I've really noticed
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from our own work with the
probiot, with soil and also our
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own work with and also people's
reporting is that still
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consistency just becomes
completely consistent over time
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after even just like a week of
using it, 68% reduction in
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lethargy, 58% in excessive
hunger, 57% in excessive
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leaking.
That's a big one.
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We know, you know, everyone
hates when their dog licks their
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paws.
It's like the other day
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Huckleberry licked his paws and
Maple was like, ha, stop licking
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your paws immediately.
So like, you know, it's one of
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those things where a 57%
reduction is really great, a 51%
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reduction in skin and coat
issues and for two months
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without a diet change.
And I should, I should mention
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as well, this is a range of
diets, kibble fed dogs, raw fed
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dogs, just all over the board.
47% reduction in vomiting and
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diarrhea, which is also great
because we know that, you know,
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you've probably worked with so
many people that just can't find
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that right diet as far as
getting, you know, something
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where they're not having
diarrhea a few times a week or
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whatever it might be.
And so, and then anxiety, we saw
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20 percent, 26% reduction, which
is really cool as well, which we
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know that, you know, the gut
makeup and gut lining and gut
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health, you know, has a strong
connection to the brain and, you
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know, overall Wellness.
But also I think some of that's
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connected to dogs just not
feeling great and having, you
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know, having more anxiety just
in general.
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So and we'll go back to those
those results in just in
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general.
And I really want to focus on
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sort of two of these things that
we're measuring.
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The first one of those is beta
glucuronidase.
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Beta glucuronidase is a really
interesting, it's really real
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with this packet here.
Beta glucuronidase is an
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interesting one because what it
is, is, you know, it's in all
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mammals and it's very negative
impact comes from the fact that
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it essentially takes things that
the liver is trying to remove
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from the body, IE toxins and
hormones, things like that, and
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redistribute and basically stops
that second phase of
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detoxification and puts those
things back into circulation.
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So puts them back in the gut and
then they go back in the body.
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So it stops the phase two
detoxification of the liver,
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which is a big, huge deal.
The people, you know, people on
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the conventional side are like,
yo, we don't need supplements.
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You have a liver, but like if
your liver is working and then
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you have all this build up of
bad bacteria that that is
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providing the substance, is
putting it back in the body,
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that is really you're just going
to run through that cycle, you
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know, consistently.
And I think that that deals with
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a lot of health issues.
Did you have something to say
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there?
I didn't know if you.
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No, I mean I'm thinking a lot
about different situations and
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different like dogs that I have
worked with and it it
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detoxification is.
Difficult it's a it's a
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difficult thing to more
difficult to pinpoint in in dogs
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than than humans just with like
the testing that we have
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available, but it with if the
detox pathways aren't open, then
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like that work has to be done
before anything else we do
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because you're you're going to
get that backup of toxins in the
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body and it can create all kinds
of effects, including, you know,
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mental effects because it's it's
going to affect your brain at
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some point and make you foggy.
Maybe I think some behavior
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problems even like anger and
aggression and it's it's
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difficult because you know a lot
of people when dogs are having
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like aggression issues like
their first their first line of
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defense is probably punishment.
But then, you know, I need a dog
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trainer because we need to
figure this out when I think our
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our first line of defense should
always be like, how healthy is
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your animal?
And then we can look at
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training.
So yeah, it's just got my brain
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going.
Very it's very similar to like
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diet in that you start with food
and then go to supplementation,
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you know, if you need it just
generally.
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So it's and that the in the beta
glucuronidase, this is actually
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where we saw my opinion really
the coolest effect of this
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entire thing.
So the the first thing is if you
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look at the so the the starting
point, you had, you know, 33
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dogs.
So keep in mind this was a 47
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dog clinical research trial.
So you had 33 dogs that were in
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the normal range.
You had nine that were
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borderline for being high in
this and then you had five that
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were absolutely high.
So when the study ended, after
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every two months you had 46 that
were in the normal range, you
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had zero that were borderline
and only one that was high.
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So basically every dog went into
the normal range when it came to
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this with beta glucoronidase,
which really speaks to the fact
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that there is more
diversification of bacteria
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because you don't have this
overwhelming buildup of bacteria
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that are making this beta
gluconidase.
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And also I just lost my train of
thought.
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That's awesome.
So you know, that happens to me.
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Oh, and that the the body is
able to deal with toxins better.
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And this was, by the way, the
greatest where it was.
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So the total reduction average
for beta glucuronidase for all
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the dogs in the study was over
just over 55%.
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So a 55% reduction in beta
glucuronidase, which is an
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incredible reduction.
So if you can say, hey, this
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marker that test for got
diversity ability to you know,
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expel toxins for the body
improve by 55% or went down by
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55%.
Those bacteria, however you want
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to look at it, that's an
incredible thing and that's only
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in two months.
So that's that for me, that's a
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whole body health marker that we
look at and we go, oh, OK, this
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is this is, this is a very
interesting findings of the 47
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dot in the by the way, some of
the stuff I'm going to read is
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from the lab specifically is
from the group that analyzes all
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this data.
So 70% of the dogs started at
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baseline in the normal range and
98% finished in the normal
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range.
So basically fixed every dog's
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ranges and 25% of the dogs had
higher borderline at baseline
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and all that one went into
normal range.
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So, and that's just in two
months of not even switching
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anything with the diet, anything
like that, just adding soil as
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well.
So the lab noted that the most
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consistent improvement was
reduction of beta glucuronidase
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levels and that this correlated
strongly with the reduction of
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physical symptoms like thirst,
hunger and diarrhea.
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So what they noticed was when
you look at the reporting
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factor, the symptoms that were
associated with high levels of
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beta glucuronidase were thirst,
hunger and diarrhea.
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We all deal with that in our
ducts.
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And so that was a really
interesting thing.
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And again, that goes back to,
OK, I just gave you this
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overarching concept of this is
what's happening in the gut, but
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how does that actually work in
the real world?
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And that was how that actually
worked.
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So the the people who ran the
study said green juju likely
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increase the commensal bacteria,
which reduce the opportunistic
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bacteria that make beta
glucoratidase, which is
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interesting because commensal
bacteria are those that are
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there that live in the gut.
And I talk a lot about probiotic
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bacteria typically are those
that don't stay around.
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Very often the probiotics that
you take, they stay around for
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like a couple days or a day and
they do their work and then
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they're out of the system.
But you have this commensal
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bacteria period.
So what this showed was that
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soil supports commensal
bacteria, whether that means
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that the bacteria that are in
soil are actually taking up in
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the gut permanently or whether
they're supporting the ones that
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are in the gut.
We know that the commensal
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bacteria is getting increased
there.
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So just a general higher
bacteria for for that.
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That is a really interesting.
I don't know how to end these
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ever.
I'm always like, so that's
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interesting.
But for nerds like myself, I
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think it's very interesting.
So now we move to calprotectin,
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00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,040
which is another substance that.
So calprotectin, when you
438
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,600
measure it, it's, it is
essentially associated with or
439
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,920
by product of the when the body
releases.
440
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480
Why could I not think right now,
this is definitely a Friday.
441
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,840
I don't know what like I had a
my, my, my 4 year old this
442
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560
morning had a very strong, she
was very strong willed and maybe
443
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,600
I'm still reeling from that, but
got it.
444
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,840
OK, I got it.
So anyway, calprotectin is
445
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,680
basically the byproduct of when
the gut releases white blood
446
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,720
cells in order to fight
inflammation in the gut.
447
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,960
So you can measure this Cal
protected by going and you can
448
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,200
essentially measure like how
many, how much, how much the
449
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240
body's trying to fight
inflammation in the gut.
450
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,440
And so when you look at the Cal
protecting levels in the dogs
451
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:32,200
don't at the start of the trial,
29 of the dogs were in normal
452
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,200
range, nine were in borderline
and nine were high.
453
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,240
So at the end of the trial, 45
were in normal range, one was
454
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,320
high and 1 was borderline.
That's where you look at an
455
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,000
what's considered a normal
amount of, you know, the body
456
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,320
fighting inflammation in the
gut.
457
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,840
So that that speaks to a total
reduction of inflammation in the
458
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,520
gut.
So now you pair those, you know,
459
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,160
you start to like stack these
things on top of each other.
460
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,160
So you start to go, OK, so it's
going to help your your dog deal
461
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040
with toxins, it's going to help
increase commensal bacteria,
462
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240
it's going to help diversify
bacteria.
463
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,720
And now we know, now we can say
that we also know that it also
464
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,800
reduces inflammation in the gut
now, so those are all into
465
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,400
normal ranges.
So then you have to talk about
466
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,760
what, what were the like
percentage factors that we were
467
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720
looking at.
So the number of fats with Cal
468
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Protect in the normal range, the
total of increase was 47% from
469
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:41,760
29 originally, as I mentioned to
45% out of the 47 that were
470
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,920
tested.
So the interesting thing about
471
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,520
this was there was 1 extreme
outlier removed here and it's
472
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,240
because the dog had a parasite
which threw off its levels
473
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560
everywhere.
So we actually have the data
474
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,720
with that dog and we have the
data without the dog because
475
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,880
it's that's not really a fair
assessment of what was
476
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,160
happening, but it's kind of cool
because we have the that data as
477
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960
well, but.
So the dog, they didn't know
478
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,200
that the dog had the parasite
going into the study.
479
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Yeah.
And they figured it out during
480
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,680
it.
So that was an interesting.
481
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Yeah.
But of those, so when you look
482
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,240
at all the dogs minus that one
dog, the, the mean for the
483
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,160
reduction in calprotectin was
28%, which I think is a really
484
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960
significant number.
So with that, so not only did
485
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,400
all the dogs go into normal
range when it comes to when it
486
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,400
comes to just inflammation in
general or how the body's
487
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,120
fighting inflammation, but that
the, the average amount of that
488
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,560
went down was 28%, which is I
think really significant after
489
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840
two months to be able to say,
look, we're reducing
490
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,360
inflammation essentially 28% in
two months.
491
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,080
And so this this is again where
it goes back to the whole body
492
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200
health.
So the report also says green
493
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,840
juju resulted in reduced in
intestinal inflammation in the
494
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
final testing to baseline in
over half the dogs.
495
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,080
Some of those dogs started out
as normal and maintain normal
496
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680
and in at least 50% of the dogs
all of those went down.
497
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Even in dogs where inflammation
rose slightly, I need 1% of them
498
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,440
still saw a deep decrease in
beta glucuronidase.
499
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,360
This suggests the supplement
works most consistently on the
500
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,920
metabolic microbial level, even
if a localized inflammation
501
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,760
takes longer to subside.
So even if the dogs protection
502
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,760
went up there, beta Glucoronidix
went down, which also suggests
503
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,920
that if you did the supplement
longer, you would see a
504
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,200
reduction in that.
Just generally, and we do have
505
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600
questions about that, what would
happen if we did it for a year,
506
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,560
what you know, there's a lot of
things around that just
507
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360
generally.
So that is something to
508
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,880
consider.
So that was a really interesting
509
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,040
thing you look at.
And by the way, for the sake of
510
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,680
time, I'm going over the most
interesting things to me.
511
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Well.
Let me ask you what's up
512
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440
quickly.
Let me ask you really quickly,
513
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,320
and this is aside from the
study, obviously, you said OK,
514
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,040
what would happen if I gave this
every day for a year.
515
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Do you actually recommend that,
or would you recommend rotating
516
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320
throughout the year between the
three?
517
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080
I would still recommend
rotating.
518
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,680
I think that you, I think that
we see these results and I think
519
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,160
you would see similar at least
in like efficacy you'd see
520
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520
similar results.
Those probiotics are going to do
521
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,960
different things because they're
totally different cultures.
522
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480
But I think that you'll see
different results.
523
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,120
And I do think there's value in
having thousands of bacteria
524
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,240
which you'll get if you rotate
between the three versus versus,
525
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,760
you know, just the perhaps
hundreds, right, that are in
526
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
soil.
But usually we say start with
527
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,920
soil and then rotate from them
or like if your dog is, you
528
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040
know, dealing with allergies and
you're doing it in support of
529
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,600
that, then do it for until those
things subside and then rotate
530
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
through them.
Or like if you're like me, your
531
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,040
dog has a lot of you know, I use
everyday I use soil, but I also
532
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,800
use, I rotate between the other
two.
533
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640
So like Monday would be soil and
farm, Tuesday would be soil and
534
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960
leaf.
And then I'm also using, you
535
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
know, the wild fermented
mushroom probiotic and his
536
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,960
rehydration of his food.
I feed him raw milk every day.
537
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,960
So he's getting a huge subset
like I'm, I'm trying to
538
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120
diversify his microbiome with as
much bacteria as possible, which
539
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,440
is essentially fixed every issue
he ever had with any allergies,
540
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520
gut sensitivity to foods,
everything.
541
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,080
I mean, he's like baseline.
The only thing I have to do on
542
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,840
the supplement range just to top
off that 5% of you know, the
543
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,880
allergies he used to get and I
only do it, you know, four
544
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,000
months out of the year is PEA
and that stuff works for those
545
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080
that are.
I actually got my mom to do that
546
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680
and told and got her dog off
Apquel.
547
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,160
So for her, that was a big that
was a big victory.
548
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,360
So but it just goes to kind of
show you that like, you know, I
549
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720
talk about this a lot, but you
know, I think it's a profound
550
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,040
thing when in one week your dog
eats an insane amount of candy
551
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,320
around Halloween, which my dog
did and was was completely fine.
552
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Just the second time he did it,
which was he ate and he ate a
553
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,800
ring pop a candy necklace and
one of those like a whole packet
554
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,680
of like maybe I'd gotten like a
Wiz mess packet of like hot
555
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,520
cocoa mix.
So he ate that entire thing and
556
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
didn't even have a soft stool,
didn't even raise him
557
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,880
whatsoever.
He just was like, all right,
558
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
he's kind of a menace.
Now, though, like after that
559
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,360
whole candy thing, we have to
like when we leave, we put him
560
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,000
in a crate now because he tries
to like even non edible things.
561
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720
He just like will go and like
RIP a piece of paper up or
562
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000
something.
So I'm like, he's kind of funny
563
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000
in that way, but that to me
spoke to resilience and we need
564
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,040
dogs to be more resilient.
We need dogs that can eat
565
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,080
basically anything.
We need dogs that people just
566
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400
want to have their dog be
healthy and then they want to
567
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560
not focus on this stuff all the
time.
568
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,040
And that's I think what these
probiotics do essentially.
569
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920
So the other thing that really
interests me here, and by the
570
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920
way, for anyone watching this,
if you reach out to us at
571
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,040
info@greenjuju.com, you too can
have everything I'm looking at
572
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640
right now.
The total breakdown of the
573
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,440
study, all of the participants,
you know, so just an example of
574
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,600
that would be like some of the
things we talked about with.
575
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,880
So like with the beta
glucuronidase, when we were
576
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
looking at baseline and final,
you could have this information
577
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,520
where we break down all of the
specific dispense, what the
578
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,760
levels were at, how they worked.
So that is interesting to me.
579
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,679
The other really interesting
thing about this is one of the
580
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:18,800
things that they mentioned is
gluten sensitivity and 44% of
581
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,679
the dogs showed a reduction in
an immune response to gluten,
582
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,679
which is very non expected,
unexpected and interesting.
583
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,280
So that's 21 dogs showing a
reduced response and the average
584
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040
level that it decreased by was
11.2%.
585
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,480
So the, I think the people at
the lab thought this was the
586
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,679
most interesting thing, but, and
we don't know exactly why I
587
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,320
would posit that it might be
because of the, the more your
588
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,800
gut, the more you sort of fix
your gut lining, the more you
589
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880
fix, you know, the more you'll
have good commensal bacteria,
590
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,680
the more you have diversity of
bacteria, the less you're
591
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,760
probably the healthier your gut
is and you're going to have less
592
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,280
of an immune response.
But yeah, the average level
593
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,600
decreased by 11.2% and 21 dogs.
That is very interesting
594
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440
actually.
That, you know, a ton of dogs we
595
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,760
deal with are eating wheat or
anything like that, but there
596
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,960
are a lot of dogs that do.
Yeah.
597
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,480
But I think that that speaks to,
you know, just general gut
598
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,320
health that, you know, when we,
when we look at people who have
599
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,680
gut issues and you know, have
celiac and, or have gluten
600
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,840
sensitivity there, there's
probably more to that than just
601
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,880
gluten.
Given all the factors of, you
602
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640
know, gluten for other places
doesn't make you sick or, you
603
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,360
know, all of the, you know,
roundup and all, all of that
604
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000
stuff that's, that's on these,
you know, foods.
605
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,360
I think there's a lot of factors
there.
606
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,280
And I think if the more you fix
the gut, the less you'll
607
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
probably react.
At least that's what this
608
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560
showed.
So that was very interesting.
609
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,640
Well, yeah, I mean, and that's
where my mind went too is that
610
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,400
so many people have or say they
have gluten sensitivities, but
611
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,840
do they really have pest like
Roundup sensitivities, pesticide
612
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,240
sensitivities and if you are
decreasing the beta
613
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880
glucuronidase, may I say that
right and.
614
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880
And I had to say it over and
over to get that right.
615
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,600
So you, you're good on that.
And and the body is able to
616
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,800
process out all of those toxins
better.
617
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,360
Like maybe that is probably so
many different things, but that
618
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
is kind of where my my head went
with it.
619
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And so some of the stuff even
620
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,800
when you start like measuring
this kind of stuff just goes
621
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,160
back to the fact that it just
goes back to the fact that we
622
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
even when we have the final
numbers, we just don't know.
623
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,760
You know, the example I always
give up that is like when you
624
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,680
make moocha at home and you
start with T and which has a
625
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,000
good amount of caffeine and then
you ferment it and then it has
626
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360
way less caffeine and we don't
exactly know why other than that
627
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,720
is being metabolized.
And so like a lot of times you
628
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,320
have the result and even in some
cases when you're measuring the
629
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,760
results and clinical data like
this, you can sort of, you just
630
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,600
don't know which I, which I
think is interesting.
631
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440
But also the main thing is that
it's happening, right?
632
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Like, yeah, yeah, the main thing
people would be excited about
633
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,320
there is the result versus that.
So we also looked at, you know,
634
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,760
because the, the study, you know
when we break down the data, the
635
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,000
studies, the study had dogs of
all sizes less than 20 lbs of
636
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,880
dogs that were 21 to 60 lbs and
large dogs which were considered
637
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,040
61 lbs and over.
So it was very consistent
638
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560
between all of those.
So the overall percentage
639
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,040
improvement when we, when we
come to baseline average of the
640
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,720
symptoms I mentioned at the
beginning versus final 49.6%
641
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,920
improvement for small dogs,
56.9% improvement generally for
642
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,760
medium dogs, and it's 62% for
large dogs.
643
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,160
So, you know, you can look at
that, you can say, oh, well, it
644
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,640
worked best for large dogs,
which is great.
645
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,400
But they're all pretty similar.
They're all in the same range
646
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,640
where you're looking at some
drastic improvements.
647
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,520
And you know, one of the reasons
we created this was because
648
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,600
there are a lot of people who
don't want to do frozen things.
649
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,240
There's a lot of people who
don't want to do all these.
650
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:25,480
So we wanted to create something
that was like new and food base
651
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,040
that people could literally just
go, oh, it's a powder and put it
652
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,160
in into their into their stuff.
I got to plug my computer in,
653
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,280
hang up.
I'm really prepared.
654
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,280
So prepared.
Very nice.
655
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,760
Luckily it's right behind me so.
And so they changed nothing
656
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,280
else.
They're eating all different
657
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720
types of foods.
They changed nothing else.
658
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
They just were adding soil every
day.
659
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,720
And I mean, those are pretty
sick.
660
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,520
I mean, for something that's
what, like a dollar a day
661
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,720
roughly, I guess depending on
the size of your dog, that's a
662
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,600
pretty significant improvement.
Give me one second.
663
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,760
Yeah, Behind me does not.
That's good.
664
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,560
All right, there we go.
Yes, I would agree with you.
665
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000
It's like it's a small
improvement.
666
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,280
And you know, I don't know, I
think for most people in making
667
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,400
one change like this, it just,
it really just depends on where
668
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,320
your priorities are, you know,
what you want to kind of like
669
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,680
spend your money on and that
that sort of thing.
670
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,120
And the interesting other
interesting thing is there's no
671
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120
reason why this is not a
supplement for humans as well.
672
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,320
This could very easily just be a
human product, you know, because
673
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,240
they're from the things they're
from my home raw yogurt culture,
674
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:43,200
they're from my, you know,
kombucha, all of those.
675
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,440
It'd be interesting to do a
yeast based kind of study.
676
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880
I'm saying that.
So this I think is really,
677
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,080
really interesting.
So going back to the weight of
678
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,400
dogs, like I think that this
when they looked at large dogs,
679
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,120
medium dogs, small dogs, I feel
like this like exactly played
680
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,600
into the stereotypes of these
dogs and and the what they deal
681
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,440
with just generally and what we
saw reduction in symptoms.
682
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,480
So in large dogs, large dogs saw
the steepest declines in panting
683
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,240
and lethargy.
So imagine you're thinking about
684
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:22,360
that big dog sitting there
panting, not wanting to move,
685
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560
etcetera.
EDM dogs saw the most consistent
686
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,200
reduction in GI symptoms like
flatulence and diarrhea, so
687
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520
those dropped over 50%
Typically, and this is my
688
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,760
favorite one, small dogs less
than 20 lbs proved significantly
689
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,920
but retained the highest final
scores for anxiety and excessive
690
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,440
licking.
How?
691
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,400
Kidding.
To every small dog, I'm telling
692
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,880
you everybody's like my small
dog, you know, I, I don't do as
693
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,240
many like one-on-one consults
now, but like, you know,
694
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,840
everybody's like my small dog
licks constantly.
695
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,960
They have anxiety.
So I thought it was interesting.
696
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,000
The highest final scores for
small dogs were in anxiety and
697
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640
excessively.
So it's cool because we can sort
698
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,280
of see this commonality, but it
could help at any size really.
699
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680
And then they noted that
frequent infections reach the
700
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,720
lowest final scores across all
weight classes, indicating high
701
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,720
efficacy regardless of size.
So you know, if your dog is
702
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,640
getting frequently infected by
things, you're not going to
703
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,440
achieve health.
So that's that is an that is an
704
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,560
interesting one as well.
So I just have to like, and I
705
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840
have to say this because this is
how my mind works.
706
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,800
Is it that small dogs have more
anxiety?
707
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,240
Or is it that people with
anxiety are more apt to adopt
708
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,400
small dogs?
I think that's a big part of it,
709
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:58,320
honestly.
So I mean, I I I am technically
710
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,920
in the medium dog range at 28
lbs, but I should actually have.
711
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360
I say this as a small dog owner.
Yeah, yeah.
712
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,760
No, I think that that's probably
true.
713
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,360
I think the people who have big
dogs typically are like, they're
714
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680
a dog, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
715
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,440
So I should have I should bring
Huckleberry at some point.
716
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,040
He's here at the Co working
space.
717
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,600
He's just over in his chair
being every time I leave to do
718
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,760
something like this, our
meeting, he gets like completely
719
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,200
fawned over, you know, people at
him and they surround him.
720
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
No, it's great.
He it was like tragically hot
721
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520
here the last three days.
It was like 87°, which for here
722
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
is very, very hot.
So he couldn't come to work.
723
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,400
So he was very sad because he
would jump down when I was at
724
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,160
the door and I was like, I know
it's sunny out, but you will die
725
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,560
if I take you on this four mile
walk in 87° weather.
726
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,840
So he's very happy to be here
today.
727
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,480
He's a great family.
So a combination.
728
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,760
So this is a combination
improvement occurs when multiple
729
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,240
related markers trend positively
for the same dog.
730
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,560
So here you look at inflammation
control.
731
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680
So this is combining cow
protectant and beta
732
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,360
glucuronidase 25 dogs, 53%
showed improvement in both
733
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,440
markers.
This combination suggests a
734
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,680
reduction in both active
intestinal inflammation and
735
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,520
bacterial enzyme activity that
typical typically triggers it.
736
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,280
So that's when you look at sort
of combining that just
737
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,560
generally.
And I will mention even look at
738
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,240
this Backpage awesome when I was
preparing, we will stuff to, you
739
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,400
know, work through that.
So I did mention at the I did
740
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560
mention at beginning, we're just
going to kind of go over some of
741
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,480
the things.
There's a couple other
742
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,640
categories here, but I do I do
think it's interesting to to go
743
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,000
through this part which is gut
barrier and immune defense,
744
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,320
which in terms of measuring
zonulin and IGA.
745
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,040
So the interesting thing seven
dogs, which is 15% of the dogs
746
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,200
improved at both.
While this was the least common
747
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,400
combination for these specific
dogs, for the seven dogs, the
748
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,560
supplement effectively addressed
what's known as leaky gut while
749
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,400
simultaneously boosting mucosal
community.
750
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,160
So for those seven dogs out of
the, IT essentially supported
751
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,800
the gut barrier and also immune
defense.
752
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,760
And one of those dogs, because
they mentioned too specifically
753
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,720
because I she might watch this
at some point, is Mabel Cider
754
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:44,800
who lives in California.
And I'll never forget the day
755
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880
she wrote me on Instagram and
she was like, I'm going to name
756
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,720
my dog Maple.
And I was like, go for it.
757
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,400
It's like I've met, I've met
some dogs named Mabel.
758
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,360
I've just never met another kid
named Maple.
759
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,560
So, but so that I thought was
interesting as well.
760
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,280
And then this Backpage that I,
you know, there's no highlighted
761
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:11,240
material on just some other like
little facts here for you.
762
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,440
Digestive efficiency 14 dogs
showed improved pancreatic
763
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,280
enzyme output.
So for those for those 14 dogs
764
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,200
or 3030%.
So looking at that study and
765
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,960
showing that 30%.
So when paired with the high
766
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,720
success rate of blue carotidase
reduction, that suggests the
767
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,880
supplement is particularly
effective at optimizing the
768
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,520
breakdown of food.
So that's another one which, you
769
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,440
know, we need to get everything
we can out of diet and therefore
770
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,840
we need to sort of be able to
break down what we have.
771
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,840
So just going back to what we
talked about earlier, even and
772
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,080
even in the dogs where
inflammation rose slightly, so
773
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,080
they weren't in that Cal
production reduction, 91% of
774
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,240
those dogs still saw a decrease
in beta glukronidase.
775
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
This suggests the supplement
works most consistently on the
776
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560
metabolic microbial level,
again, even if localized
777
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,320
inflammation takes longer to
subside.
778
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,560
So the data also shows that
physical health markers move
779
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,680
much faster than behavioral
ones.
780
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Group wide anxiety remain nearly
static, indicating that
781
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,480
behavioral modification may
require longer duration than the
782
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,160
physiological intervention
period.
783
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,320
So what they were sort of
looking at was they were
784
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
starting to see improvement in
more dogs.
785
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,360
When it comes to the, the
anxiety, but they posited you'd
786
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360
have to do it longer in order to
do that.
787
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,840
So, so that's really the
breakdown that I wanted to go
788
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,040
through today.
And I would encourage you guys
789
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,400
if you want more information and
all that to check out the to
790
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,560
e-mail us, get this information
and kind of take a look at it.
791
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520
They really do break it down in
a way that's very digestible.
792
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,280
I know that, you know, most
people when they look at like a
793
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200
study, they're like, what is
this?
794
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,720
And this is nicely broken down
and like presentation style and
795
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,520
you know, they're very thorough
over there.
796
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,880
So I know it was a small part,
but I actually am very
797
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,240
interested in the the pancreatic
elastase results.
798
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,400
I you know, dogs, especially
dogs with leaky gut or any sort
799
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,640
of dysbiosis, they tend to not
digest their foods very well and
800
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,760
absorb nutrients very well.
And I think similarly dogs with
801
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,120
any sort of pancreas issues in
general, you know, chronic
802
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
pancreatitis, it's just it's
more difficult for them to be
803
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,920
able to actually utilize
breakdown and utilize the
804
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080
nutrients in their food and they
wind up with nutrient
805
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,240
deficiencies oftentimes, which
are leading to other issues,
806
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,320
other symptoms that are popping
up.
807
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,160
And so that is very benefit.
I mean, all of it together
808
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,280
obviously is very beneficial,
but that's very interesting to
809
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,800
me.
And again, like kind of going
810
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,400
back to where I was framing this
earlier, I do think there is a
811
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,480
conversation that needs to be
had around the vast usage of
812
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,400
kind of mediocre probiotics on
the market.
813
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,960
And if that's actually help, I
mean, for some dogs that it can
814
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,000
help for a period of time, but
especially dogs that just have,
815
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080
don't have a whole lot of
diversity to begin with.
816
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,720
But over time, having more
diversity and, and what we're
817
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:36,040
supplementing alongside food is,
is really important.
818
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880
And that, I think, is the
conversation that needs to be
819
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,720
had moving forward.
Yeah, I agree.
820
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,280
I think there's a couple points
on that, but I agree with you
821
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:52,240
100% when it comes to firstly
that like, I think the research
822
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,280
itself shows a totality of what
the concept was in the very
823
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,200
beginning, right?
So it's like the whole point of
824
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,800
this was how do we diversify the
gut as much as possible to
825
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440
affect every part of health?
It just just generally.
826
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,080
And that was kind of the opening
concept to this, like, oh, dogs
827
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,720
that are exposed to more things
become healthier.
828
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,240
And I think what this showed was
the actual mechanics to, to how
829
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:25,400
that works, like the, the basic
mechanics of like when you
830
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,760
introduce all these bacteria,
here's the different health
831
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,760
markers that we can look at, you
know, and here's, here's what's
832
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,760
actually happening in the body.
So I think that, that that part
833
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,320
is relevant.
And the other part that's
834
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,840
relevant too is like you're,
it's exactly what you were
835
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,920
talking about getting.
Everyone has probiotics and
836
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,240
everything.
And they're, they're, that's at
837
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,160
least there's one part of that
that's heading the right
838
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,200
direction.
Because traditionally in pet
839
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,320
food, it was always my dog or
cat is sick.
840
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,960
Therefore, they need a
probiotic.
841
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,680
But what dogs and cats need
generally is as much probiotic
842
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,680
diversity as possible at all
times.
843
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,280
And that's what humans need too,
in order to just be generally
844
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,720
healthy.
And so when you look at
845
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,720
something like that, you say we
need to shift our mindset away
846
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,800
from dogs need this one
particular from two things.
847
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Number one, dogs don't need it
and cats don't need it unless
848
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,840
they're sick.
That's the first myth, right?
849
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,000
If you go back, you know, 20
years, nobody was like, there
850
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,440
wasn't very much going on in
probiotics and pet food.
851
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,720
None of the foods had
probiotics, anything like that.
852
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,320
So then you're introducing these
dogs to sterile environments
853
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,440
and, you know, living in our
homes, more sterile environments
854
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,720
and you're going like, oh, you
know, they're not exposed to
855
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,520
very much bacteria at all.
So the first part is any move
856
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520
away from that?
And the second part is we need
857
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
to, you know, I think what this
helped show and illustrate, and
858
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,240
I think we've been seeing this
in dogs and cats from eating
859
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,040
fermented foods and that kind of
thing for so many years is we
860
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,640
need to move away from, hey, we
did a bunch of research on this
861
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,320
one strain and we know that it
does XY and Z doesn't mean that
862
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,160
that can't help in that
particular setting because it
863
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,840
really can't.
A good example that would be
864
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,440
like Saccharomyces Bilardi.
We know it's very effective at
865
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,800
certain things, but we maybe
need to move away from that in
866
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,160
general and move towards a base
of diversity.
867
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,720
And that's what you can do with
these probiotics.
868
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,680
You can actually use the, you
can use, you could rotate
869
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040
between these three and still
feed other things with bacteria.
870
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,680
You can even still add
probiotics if you wanted to do
871
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,680
that.
You could rotate them with other
872
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200
brands like Adored the East or
whatever you're doing just to
873
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,160
get more sort of like diversity
in there.
874
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,880
And, and it's that baseline of a
bunch of bacteria versus
875
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,040
potency, which is, hey, we have
2.5 billion bacteria and it's 3
876
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,600
strains.
Well, if you open farm, you're
877
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,040
going to have at least 3000
strains between that 2.5 billion
878
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
bacteria.
So that's where we, we want to
879
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,640
go.
We want diversity over potency.
880
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,680
And I, I think that that fits
now with what we're seeing in
881
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,000
human research, with what we're
seeing in, you know, whatever
882
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,200
pet research is happening.
But we, we want to be on the
883
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,200
forefront of that and go well.
How do we maximize the fact that
884
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we're, you know, doing that
well?
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I.
Appreciate that y'all are doing
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the research because it takes a
lot of time and money and effort
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and energy and it it's it's
needed unfortunately, because
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everybody is skeptical of
anything that is good for us
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these days.
It's like, no where are the
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studies if like you started out
like, well, my dog is doing
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better.
Do I really need a study?
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You know, some people do.
So I appreciate that and I
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appreciate everything really
that Green Juju has done and is
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doing.
So yeah, I don't, I don't.
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I mean, obviously I'm just not
going to sit here for another
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hour and gush over Green Juju,
but I do appreciate it.
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And I appreciate you coming on
and talking about it and just
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letting people know that like,
yeah, you're really into putting
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out these really great products,
but you also want people to
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understand how they're, I'm
going to move the needle for
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their animals.
Yeah, it's like the next step,
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you know, it's, it's the way
that we look at that and we say
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like, you know, how do we reach
those people that I, I think
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you'd need information like this
as much as you could possibly
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get it.
And then, you know, and I'm
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excited to see, you know, when
we, when more of this is just
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out in the world in general,
how, how people you don't
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perceive that we're interested
in doing more of that generally,
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you know, we're always working
on interesting and weird and non
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weird stuff.
So there's more to come from
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Korean juju.
There's some interesting, really
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interesting stuff happening
right now.
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So, you know, we, we, we often
talk about like, let's just slow
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it down a little bit, you know,
take a break, but not take a
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break.
But let's focus on we have and
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then we have ideas.
And, you know, that's where
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that's where it is.
Yeah.
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Well, and I did just get my
hands on for the first time the
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new extras line.
So we're going to give that a
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try here very soon.
Very exciting.
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You did.
OK Cool.
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Yeah.
It's finally like the frozen
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version is starting to be out
and about.
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And that is it.
It's a really interesting food.
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It's just like, it's like our
LED line in that it's formulated
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differently.
But boy, dogs and cats love that
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food.
And Huckleberry specifically, I
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even thought about like, should
I just feed him the chicken and
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Turkey like and just rotate the
tune because he likes them so
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much more?
But I didn't arrive at that
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conclusion when I thought
through it.
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But he is just by far his
favorite and we're getting that
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across the board.
So I'm happy that that's hey.
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Well, thank you so much for
joining us again, Billy.
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I really appreciate it, your
time and everything that you're
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doing.
And you're always welcome back.
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Always happy to be here.
All right guys, give your pets
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some extra love from me and from
Billy today, and I will talk to
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you again next week.
Before you go, if today's
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episode got you thinking about
what's really going on beneath
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the surface for your pet, don't
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Vice President of Nutrition and Communication
Billy Hoekman is Vice President of Nutrition and Communication for Green Juju. He is involved in formulation, product development, working with farmers, science education, and sales and marketing. He participates frequently in expert panels and speaks nationally and internationally in venues ranging from universities and conferences to public libraries. He also serves on the board of directors for multiple organizations, attends AAFCO meetings, and has numerous published articles. He is a trusted pet health advocate that specializes in turning hard to understand nutrition concepts into plain English. He lives in Lancaster Pennsylvania with his wife, their daughter Maple, and their dog Huckleberry.