Oct. 29, 2024

Is THIS Missing From Your Pet Parenting?

Michelle Thomas (Magical Mutts Michelle) has such a beautiful gift that she has honed to be able to connect energetically with pets (and people) to help us as pet parents understand our pets better.

I hired Michelle to connect with my dog, Kimberly, and even though she spent a good deal of time actually connected to me, what I found out about Kim has helped me understand her better and make better decisions for myself and for her.

Michelle was kind enough to join me to tell her story and hopefully give you some insight into what she does so that you can decide if this is something that is right for you and your pet.

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Welcome back pet parent.
You already know if you've been

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here for even a hot minute, you
know that your girl is totally

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woo woo.
And that's OK.

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I love it.
And if that's not OK with you,

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that's fine too.
So many of us though, I feel

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like are starting to realize
that there's something more.

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There's something more to life
that we haven't tapped into.

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There's something we feel like
is missing and we have been

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searching for it for so long.
And for some of us, we have kind

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of awoken to the idea that there
is energy, we are energy, and

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energy is all around us.
And I've talked about this

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before.
I've had animal communicators on

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in the past.
And I recently published an

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episode talking a little bit
about Romeo and how I really

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used that energy and that
connection that I had with him,

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even though no, I don't, I
personally don't hear him speak

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to me in, you know, English.
We still spoke to each other in

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other ways.
And I just, I find it so

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fascinating.
And I actually think that

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working, getting to work
one-on-one with people, I see

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where there are so many things
that we don't take into

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consideration oftentimes.
And if you had asked me a month

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ago, I probably would have said
water was like the number one

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thing people take for granted
and don't ever think about.

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And today, my answer is totally
different.

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It's energy.
It's something that we just

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don't think about at all, but
can make such a huge impact in

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the quality and care that you
give to your pets, but really

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also to yourself as well.
So I'm going to introduce

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today's guest, but really
quickly before I do that, if

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this happens to be the first
time you're listening to me and

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you're like, who is this crazy
lady and what is she talking

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about?
My name is Jessica.

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I am a certified canine
nutritionist.

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I'm also raw certified in feline
nutrition, a certified holistic

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pet health coach and a positive
reinforcement dog trainer.

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And on this podcast, we talk
about literally everything to

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make your pets lives better.
And coming up, we are actually

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going to be incorporating some
things to make your life better

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as well.
And I think all of these things

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tie in really, really well
together, which is also why I'm

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so excited to have Michelle
Thomas on today's podcast.

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You may know her as Magical
Mutts Michelle, especially if

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you follow me on Instagram.
I have posted about her because

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she did a reading for me and my
dog Kimberly and I normally do

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not read like guests BIOS
because it's all posted on the

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website.
You can go read about it.

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The guest is going to tell you
all about themselves.

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But she has one line in her bio
that I just couldn't not tell

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you and it says Michelle
realized through her intuitive

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energy and animal communication
work.

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I'm paraphrasing that and and
with her own life experiences

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that true health cannot be
achieved without addressing the

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deeper emotional and spiritual
realm.

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And that hit me so hard when I
read it that I was like, no, I

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have to say that.
I have to say that to you.

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So Michelle, thank you so much
for being here.

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How are you doing today?
Good.

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Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited to have this chat

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and that it's becoming like more
mainstream to talk about energy

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and spiritual realm and
incorporate it into our daily

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lives.
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And one of the things that I
find really interesting, and I,

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I mean, you probably do as well,
you were a licensed veterinary

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technician.
So you have a background in

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sciences as well as I do.
My formal education is in

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science as well.
So I have always kind of

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gravitated toward like our like
Western understanding of

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science.
But I find that a lot of what we

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believe today, what we talk
about is being science.

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What we talk about is like
biology and the understanding

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of, you know, the solar system
and all of the things around us

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is really trying to explain
spirituality and and the

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spiritual things that we really
don't have an explanation for.

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Yeah, I mean, just the way that
our bodies work, our animals

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bodies work, like there's so
much magic in that.

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Like within science, there's so
much like magic and all, just

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how everything comes together to
create our bodies.

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And I feel like people can think
that there's not a place for

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spirituality or energy work
within the mainstream medical

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field, but they really do work
together so beautifully.

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Yeah, and we're going to talk
about that a little bit, but I

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want to hear how you came to
that.

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Like how so you do intuitive
energy work and you're also an

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animal communicator.
And how did all of that come

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about?
How did you real for like were

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you little and you realize or
did it happen as an adult?

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Like how did how did all of this
happen?

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You know, I've always had a deep
connection to animals.

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Like all of my childhood
memories are spending time with

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my dog, Sparky, or out in the
barn with my horses.

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And I just had such a deep
connection to them.

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And since I was little, I always
wanted to work in the veterinary

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field.
I just knew I was going to work

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with animals.
And I went to Michigan State and

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I got my bachelor's in
veterinary technology.

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And even then when I was in
school at that time, I felt like

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there was something lacking, but
I wasn't sure what.

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So I did some exploration into
holistic medicine.

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I was able to mentor with a
wonderful holistic vet and that

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opened up a lot of doors to see
that there's more to the care of

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our pets.
And I went into focusing a lot

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on nutrition, which is very
important, but I still saw that

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there was something lacking.
And it was through my own health

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journey that I really put
together this puzzle of like it

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can be combining Western
medicine, nutrition, herbal

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medicine, but you also need to
get to the deeper root, the

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energetic emotional health,
because our bodies are truly a

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reflection of that.
And you could eat all the good

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food, take all the supplements.
But if you have these energetic

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blocks or emotions that you're
holding in and not addressing

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and holding space for, you
really will see repeat patterns

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of illness.
One of the things that I find so

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interesting because I've been on
my own, not just physical health

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journey, but also mental health
journey.

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And I, I don't say that lightly
because I realized that there

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are people out there that deal
with severe mental illness and

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I'm so I'm not making light of
that.

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Like, I have nothing to complain
about, but you know, just being,

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being a Libra and an overthinker
and it's hard.

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I mean, the human experience is
wild and difficult and

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confusing.
Yeah, for all of us.

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Well, one of the things that I
have found, and I find it to be

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so interesting, is that I think
women especially, like obviously

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I, I wouldn't exclude men.
We all have both masculine and

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feminine energy, but I think
just the female of the species

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in general, we tend to be a
little bit more open to and

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maybe even find connection with
whatever you want to call it,

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the universe, spirit source
energy, whatever it may be that

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you want to call it.
I feel like we we can, I don't

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maybe get there easier, maybe
have more of an open mind to to

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connect with it.
And I think that is absolutely

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something just like what you
said.

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I see that all the time and all
of the accounts I follow, like

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on social media, it's like, do
you can you can do all the

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things.
Get up at the crack of dawn and

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go stand outside and, you know,
get get your son early in the

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morning, have your coffee, do
your grounding, do all of your

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all eat right, do your yoga, do
all of the things.

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And if you're mine doesn't right
it, you know you're only going

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to get so far.
Absolutely.

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And that's so true for our
animals also.

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And what I've found through my
work is like how deeply

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connected our animals and
ourselves are.

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So when I first started doing
the energetic sessions, it was

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really focused on the animals
alone.

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But then it's really like
beautifully shifted into where

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it's really healing in
partnership with your animals

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because they're really here to
be our guides and are here in

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our lives for a reason.
And our energetics are so deeply

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connected together that when
connecting with your animal,

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also a lot can you know come up
for you and your journey.

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So when you say you connect with
an animal, what does that mean?

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What does that look like?
Yeah, so sometimes difficult to

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put into words, so I'll try to
best translate or give an idea

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of what I'm feeling.
So it's important.

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It's like a ceremony.
Even now I have a candle lit

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while we're speaking and I make
sure to be very intentional with

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my energy where I'm grounding
myself.

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And I have a practice of, say,
grounding to the earth,

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connecting to the heavens.
That's like the way I, I start

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and light a candle and I set
intention to connect with your

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animals to bring any information
forward to serve their highest

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good.
And I was kind of explaining to

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you earlier that I can connect
on like 3 levels throughout

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sessions and we may bounce
between those levels and I, my

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job is to follow along.
So sometimes your animal baby

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may be giving me a message
directly that they would like to

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convey.
It would might be something like

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I really love these treats or
you know, I want this toy or

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funny, you know, things like
this that they have requests

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sometimes some wisdom beyond,
you know, your wildest dreams of

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like this wisdom that these
animals bring forward.

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So I can connect direct messages
to your animals.

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I also can get messages from
their bodies.

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So that may look like foods that
can support them, maybe things

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to support their microbiome
detox that's needed.

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So it's kind of like a body scan
and receiving information of how

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to support their body that comes
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about more later of like if it
could working in conjunction

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with your veterinarian, I may
receive some information that

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you can then follow up with them
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And then I'm also connecting
with their spirit team, their

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spirit guides and receiving
information for holding space on

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the deeper level of maybe
emotions that no longer serve

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them that I can hold space for
releasing or deeper energetic

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shifts or sometimes something
regarding they're people as

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well.
So your spirit team can come in

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also.
So when you have a a session and

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you connect with an animal and
possibly even the person, how do

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I want to ask this question?
When do you?

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Because I know different people.
I'm like, I think I know what

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you're like.
How do I receive the messages?

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Yes, yeah.
So it's funny, in the intro you

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said you've had an animal
communicator connect you with

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your cat who's passed, but your
cat doesn't speak to you in

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English.
And I doubt that your cat is

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speaking to that communicator in
English either.

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Or really I, I think there's
this idea that intuitives

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mediums are receiving like just
hearing.

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I will even sometimes use that
language of saying, oh, they

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said to me, but I'm not hearing
something.

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And you're right that like every
person may receive messages

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differently, and we all have
ways that we are.

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So your cat may be communicating
with you, you're just not aware.

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It's about tuning into that.
And then my job is to translate

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that.
And personally, myself, I can

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receive those messages in a
variety of different ways.

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Sometimes I will see something
and when I say see something

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also it's in your mind's eye,
you see something or I feel

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energy waves come in.
So sometimes I don't know if you

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noticed in our session, my eyes
will like flip back and forth

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and it's me receiving downloaded
channeled message.

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And then it's through practice
that you trust this.

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If you trust, it's like a trust
muscle.

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So I'll receive a message and
then I say, I got this message

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and you know, through
confirmation, it's like these

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messages, you learn to trust
them.

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Sometimes I feel something in my
body.

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So if your animal has pain in
the area of their body, I may

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feel that.
So it's, you know, feeling these

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interpreting different messages
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So let's say I think sometimes
people like even in general

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day-to-day, like following your
intuition, your higher self,

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your guides, God, whatever you
want to label, it can be really

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subtle.
It doesn't have to be, you know,

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something intense and it's
about, you know, I may also not

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recognize these subtle things in
my day-to-day life when I'm

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distracted, but it is getting in
this very grounded, different

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state that I can receive these
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So I I still want to talk about
like all the food and stuff in

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just a little bit.
But before we get there, I want

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to ask about like the connection
between a pet parent and a pet.

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And energetically, one of the
things, and I don't know if I

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said this to you or not, but
after I don't know how, having

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talked to and listened to and
having so many different animal

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communicators TuneIn to various
pets.

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I've had one of the things that
I have I have heard a bunch of

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different pieces and kind of put
a puzzle together for myself

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that I now have the belief that
dogs are here to teach us

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unconditional love and cats are
more like our spiritual

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guardian.
I don't know if that is true,

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but that's how I feel in in my
life and my body.

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Does that make any sense to you?
I just have to ask everybody

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that.
Yeah, You know, I see a lot of

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variety of lessons with dogs
like, I think just like people.

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Someone just actually asked me
this today because I was

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talking, I made some posts on
Instagram about some really

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highly spiritually evolved dogs
that I've been connecting with.

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But not all dogs are very
spiritually evolved, and some

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are.
And it can really matter where

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they're at on their soul
journey, how many incarnations

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they've had, where they've been,
what lessons they've learned,

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what they bring to us.
But yes, certainly this

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unconditional love is really
important of, and part of that

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can be like meeting them where
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journey.
You can learn a lot of lessons

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through difficult relationships,
you know, But cats certainly are

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like energetic protectors.
I think even in your session,

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some cats came in to do some
energetic clearing.

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So I'll bring in spirit guides
to help me during sessions.

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And sometimes cats will come in
to do energetic cleansing.

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I always have like little
totems, altars that I set and

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ask who wants to come in before
each session.

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Even now I asked.
I don't know why, but this snake

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picture wanted to come in while
we talk and a dragon, which is

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like my son's dragon toy, likes
to come in.

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But yeah, I have a lot of little
cat statues and I'll often bring

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them into sessions because
they're very efficient energetic

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cleansers.
So I, I forget how you worded

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it, of their purpose of like a
protector.

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Like, yeah, they're, I think
they're like spiritual

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guardians.
And it is funny.

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I after I had that session with
you, I was like scrolling and I

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saw this beautiful purple dragon
brooch and I was like, I need to

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buy that.
And like how I say, like, you

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may not hear something, these
little signs when you something

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comes up and you keep saying it,
it's like, yeah, yeah, it's

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funny.
It's drag energy calling too,

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right?
So how do every relationship is

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different, obviously?
Do you find that you're often

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kind of bridging the gap
energetically between pets and

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their pet parents?
Like in my mind, I'm, you know,

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an average pet parent is like,
OK, I know I need to feed this

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better food.
I know that my dog is needing to

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go for a walk every day.
I know that when they jump up

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and they stare at me like the.
It means XY is, you know,

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different animals have different
ways of expressing themselves.

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But that, like, energetic is Do
you find that most people just

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don't have that energetic
connection with their pets?

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How do are you just, like,
bridging the gap?

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Yeah.
Depends on the person, how in

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tune that they are.
But I feel like like feedback I

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get after the sessions is that
people have like a deeper

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understanding in connection with
their animals.

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And I think bridging that gap
can be how I talked about.

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Like sometimes it's a message
directly from your animal of

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what they need from you for them
and also what they want for you.

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And then also a deeper
understanding of maybe there was

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a trauma that happened to them
before you had them or something

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that can give you a deeper
understanding of why they have

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this behavior or this fear now.
And then I do.

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So I'm doing with this
communication, but then also

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we'll hold space for helping to
release this.

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So you can see shift shifts in
behavior by holding space for

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releasing these emotions, these
traumas that happen.

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And this can be in this lifetime
or other lifetimes.

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Just to put it, yeah, I'm like
Hassler.

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Know how which often we have
multiple lifetimes with our

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animals.
You know, it can be really

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beautiful.
You know, there's some souls

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that you are deeply connected to
and I love when they like assure

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you that you'll always be
together through many lifetimes.

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You know, that's like so
beautiful.

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And sometimes last week I had a
lot of dogs that were childhood

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dogs that have come back.
To these people as adults, you

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know, and it's A, and within
that doing a lot of like inner

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child healing work for that
person to really, you know, heal

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that part of themselves that
that dog was there with them to

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experience in that time.
That is so interesting to me

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too, the idea of like inner
child work.

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It's it's a tough one to for me
probably for everybody to face

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and the idea that like our pets
could be here to help us with

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that, but also we could, they
could be coming to us because

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they need help, right Is that.
Yeah, absolutely.

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I think it can go both ways of
yeah, healing and partnership,

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healing each other and learning
lessons together.

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You know, something I see also
is like, you can, I had this dog

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this week that has been with his
owner over 100 times and always

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as the relationship of dog and
human.

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And he said he looked for at
shelters for over three months

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and was like, this isn't, you
know, couldn't find his dog.

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He like reached his hand in the
cage.

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The dog licked his hand.
And like, before he even like

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looked at the dog, he just like
knew like, this is my dog.

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And there can be like, you know,
profound deep relationships like

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that.
But then also sometimes you get

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an animal that you don't feel
deeply connected to.

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And I work with a lot of people
who have a lot of grief or guilt

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around that.
But there's also a lesson within

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that as well.
You know that every animal isn't

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going to be your deep soul
connected animal and that's OK

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too.
And you're also still there to

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teach each other things and, and
releasing this guilt that you

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don't feel like, you know, I
said guttural feeling of like

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connection to this animal.
You know you're not going to

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feel bad with every animal and.
Yeah.

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Well, Speaking of guilt, that
was one of the things that I've

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actually been working on myself
since our session, because I

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went in thinking that my dog
Kimberly was going to have all

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of this trauma and all of this
like, help that she needed.

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And like, she really ended up
like she had some, but she

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really like what what I was left
with more than anything was she

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was like, I got my bed, I got my
water bowl, I'm good.

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Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

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And so like, I've been trying to
let go of the guilt I had been

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feeling for so many years with
like, I'm not doing everything I

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need to be doing.
I'm not supporting her in the

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ways I need to be supporting
her.

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And maybe, you know, obviously
there's always still room and

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work that needs to be done.
But like trying to release my

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own guilt because she was just
like then can.

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Yeah, people will be like, tell
me, what else do they want?

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And they're like, I don't know,
like you could give me a piece

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of bread.
Like I'm fine.

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Like it's usually not, you know,
like usually they often have a

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lot of things they want you to
do, even outside of activities

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with them.
They're like, you know, go

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running, go dance, listen to
music, find joy within yourself.

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Even with traveling, people will
be like, I'm so guilty that I'm

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going on this vacation and
leaving my pet and your animals

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like, oh, I'll miss you, but
like, oh, that's bringing you

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joy.
That's wonderful.

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Like usually they'll be like
show people pictures of me, talk

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about me, think about me, maybe
bring me something back, like,

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and they just want to know like
the plan or who they're staying

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with, you know?
But of course there's some

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animals who have deep rooted
separation anxiety.

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But honestly, most of those
animals aren't worried about

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themselves.
They're worried about their

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person and an instability in the
person.

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So it's like often working
through them, feeling that their

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person's safe, you know, without
them.

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So you said that like initially
you were just like trying to

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exclusively work with the
animals, but it sounds like the

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animals have kind of almost made
you like.

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The animals demand us to take
care of ourselves, which is like

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you'll take care of your animal
before yourself.

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So it's been beautiful way to
like open up for people to like

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there's such in our Society of
feeling like you're selfish or

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guilty.
You feel guilty for doing things

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for yourself, but you will
endlessly do things for your

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animal.
And I'm like, doing things for

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yourself is doing something for
your animals, like self-care is

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taking care of your past.
Because if you're in balance,

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that throws them off.
You know that.

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That's a clip.
I'm just going to have to post

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that as a clip because I
certainly am guilty of that.

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Of like completely ignoring my
own wants and needs and putting

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everyone else above a both me
and train very hard not to do

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that.
Anymore, Yeah.

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Our animals don't want that for
us.

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They want us to be happy and
take care of ourselves on a

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emotional, mental, physical
level.

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They want us to find joy, I
guess.

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So often they'll just request
things that bring you joy and

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they want that feeling in the
home.

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They're like, can you play this
music you used to?

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Can you do these things because,
you know, stress comes up in

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life and we forget to do those
like simple joyful things.

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How often do you think our pets
want to be included in our

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spiritual practices, if we have
any or ask that we start

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spiritual practices like whether
that's like journaling or

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meditating or whatever that.
Is I, I feel that most animals

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really do.
It's really important and it's

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interesting.
I just yesterday had a session.

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I asked him this person like, do
you have a spiritual practice

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because your dog is telling me
that, you know, you do and you

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should really focus on that.
And he's like, I don't.

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But then it came through that
his spiritual practice is

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gardening and connecting with
the flowers.

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So we can be spiritual practice
doesn't need to look like, you

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know, maybe we were raised for
it to look like.

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I mean, I think it's beautiful
if you have a religion that

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really, you know, resonates with
you.

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But your spiritual practice can
be something simple like

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gardening or yoga or whatever
calls to you hiking.

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You know, I have this dog last
week also who is preparing to

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leave his body and her other
dog.

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He used to always go hiking in
the mountains with his person

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and he's no longer able to do
that.

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And the other dog doesn't always
want to go hiking, She told me

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because once she hurt her foot,
that's and she was a little like

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felt vulnerable that she could
hurt her foot again.

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And he's like, before I go, it's
really important that you

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embrace hiking with her because
there's magic in the mountains.

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And like this is an important
spiritual practice for his owner

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to be hiking with her dogs.
And so he like he can't leave

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her until she can like have that
spiritual practice again.

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That's.
Excuse me, that's actually

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really beautiful and and also
made me think of something I

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didn't think of before.
And I don't know why, but the

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idea that we, well, we have, I
think so much grief, sadness

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around the idea of losing our
pets.

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And that's not wrong, but also
it doesn't have to be that way.

446
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,160
And I've had so many animal
communicators tell me that it's

447
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:50,760
like, yes, to us it's death, but
to them it's just moving on.

448
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Yeah, it's just another
transition out of their body.

449
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,320
Very rarely have I seen maybe if
it was something very sudden or

450
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,160
tragic, you know, But generally,
animals really are.

451
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,400
Yeah.
It's not a scary process for

452
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000
them.
And they, our animals can have

453
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,840
such deep connection with us and
with the other animals even

454
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680
beyond their body.
So can be really a beautiful

455
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880
process.
I know a lot of people grapple

456
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400
with guilt when an animal
passes.

457
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Maybe I could have done this.
Maybe I could have done that.

458
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,480
So, but there's something
beautiful in like honoring the

459
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,880
way that your animal wants to
die, but sometimes that means

460
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,520
not doing a lot of
interventions.

461
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960
This dog I was just Speaking of
that wants this other dog to go

462
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,240
hiking in the mountains.
He was like ready to leave his

463
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,520
body and told us this.
But once we actually had her

464
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,480
stop a lot of interventions,
he's, I mean, he was completely

465
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,880
different dog.
He's rebounded.

466
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,680
He wants to stay in his body
longer.

467
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,920
He was stressed out by going to
too many appointments, too much

468
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,320
poking, too much prodding even
like, you know, he just wants

469
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,960
the simple things.
He wants his owner to cook some

470
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
meals for him.
He wants to like greet people

471
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400
around the neighborhood.
He wants to play little nose

472
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680
work games.
And these things are what bring

473
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
him joy.
He doesn't want to have a ton of

474
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,360
intervention and she honored
that.

475
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,760
And he, like, has made a rebound
like blossomed.

476
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,920
It's so interesting that that
came up because it also came up

477
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000
in the recording I just did
right before yours.

478
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Really.
And it's been really like heavy

479
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,720
on my heart since Romeo passed,
which was at the beginning of

480
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,240
August.
I keep telling myself I'm going

481
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,960
to do a reel and I haven't done
it because it's hard, but it

482
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,000
just keeps coming up that like,
I I feel like I want to give

483
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,640
people permission almost to not
have to intervene in every

484
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,480
single thing.
Yeah, absolutely to like in it

485
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,360
and like who am I to give people
permission?

486
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920
But I I feel like people have
such a hard.

487
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,560
I think people worry about
judgment.

488
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,760
So by people validating and
saying, I know you're making a

489
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160
decision out of love and from
your heart and what your animal

490
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,000
you feel is best and your animal
is asking you to do.

491
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200
And yeah, I'm not judging you
for that.

492
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,040
You know, that's in our
especially with social media and

493
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400
everything, you know, people are
worried about judgment from

494
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,920
others and the way they care for
their pets and you know, yeah, I

495
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,720
mean, animals, a big thing that
a theme that comes up for me is

496
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,840
animals do not want you pitying
them.

497
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
That is, I mean, no one wants
pity directed at them.

498
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,200
So like when they're old or
they're going through something

499
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,960
just making like an offering of
love of however that looks, but

500
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,280
not, yeah, not pitying or over
worrying or trusting them.

501
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,800
My mom's cat was just sick and I
just had a little upset stomach

502
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
and I connected in with him and
he said he ate a snake outside

503
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,400
and was had a little upset belly
which he's been obsessed with

504
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,000
hunting snakes all summer.
And I did a little energy work

505
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280
on him and he's like I'll feel
better in two days.

506
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,760
My mom was hovering over him and
worrying about him and messaging

507
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,000
me and then he wanted to go
outside what she's allowed to do

508
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,720
sometimes but he always comes
back quickly.

509
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,120
He didn't come back and she's so
worried and she's frantic

510
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
running around and I connect in
with him.

511
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
He's like I'm under the porch.
She's annoying me.

512
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,000
I told her I'd be better in two
days.

513
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Like she needs to like give me
some space.

514
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,800
And he said when she goes up to
bed and proves to me that she's

515
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520
like giving me space and not
worrying I'll come in.

516
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Of course it was like 3:00 AM.
He's like, I'll come in now.

517
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,720
But I told her like he was like
annoyed by like the coddling.

518
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
He's like, I'm a cat.
I know what I'm doing.

519
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,440
I told you 2 days and he's fine.
He's fine now, which is like to

520
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,280
say like, you know, I was like,
OK, if he's not better in these

521
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000
two days, maybe take him to the
vet.

522
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,720
It's not like a but you know,
some trust in their bodies and

523
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
what they're doing.
Yeah, that's funny.

524
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,760
You're annoying me.
I can definitely see like

525
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,920
literally every cat being like
you're annoying me.

526
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:39,960
So connecting in getting a lot
of the like spiritual stuff that

527
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440
is really, really cool and can
be very beneficial.

528
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,800
But one of the one of the things
that you do that I find

529
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,080
absolutely fascinating is how
you can kind of connect with

530
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,440
different food or not.
Not that you're connecting with

531
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
the food, you're connecting with
the animal, but they're they're

532
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
telling you about telling you,
telling you about different

533
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,560
foods that might work better for
them or foods that maybe don't

534
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,679
make them feel that great.
Can you tell me a little bit

535
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,800
more about that?
Maybe give me some examples of

536
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,960
how this works?
That's actually like how I

537
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
started doing the energetic work
when I first started.

538
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,760
I was just started playing
around with it.

539
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,760
For doing diet recommendations,
I actually used to own a store

540
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,280
here in Vermont that focused it
on focused on fresh feeding and

541
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,960
supplements and things.
So I started utilizing it with

542
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,239
my customers where you know, at
first it's like, you know, when

543
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,320
you first come coming out with
the stuff, it's like a little

544
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,159
hard.
You're like, do you mind if I

545
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:49,679
just try something a little, you
know, maybe seems weird, but and

546
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,480
it was working.
It's like I just asked the body

547
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,840
to tell me what's in alignment
and what is not energetically in

548
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,480
alignment.
And so basically I'll write a

549
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520
chart of like, these are the
proteins in alignment for their

550
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,600
body.
These are the proteins not in

551
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,320
alignment for their body.
If I get a no, I will actually

552
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,480
ask like why?
Maybe like intolerance or some

553
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,000
foods are like hot in heavy
metal.

554
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,480
So I can ask more questions, but
then I can kind of have an idea

555
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,520
of what bodies are most in
alignment in that moment to

556
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:30,920
support your animals body.
And yeah, I just started seeing

557
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
where, you know, customers have
been struggling with their

558
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,080
animals having like GI tract
issues or skin issues and

559
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,160
getting results of like
improvement.

560
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,040
So that was like, yeah, gaining
the trust and now utilize it

561
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,320
often to just see it's like
taking out the guessing game

562
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160
around what foods will work.
And then I can ask questions

563
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,640
also like, OK, like fat, like
how much fat do they need in

564
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
their diet?
What percentage of veggies

565
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,720
should it be cooked or raw?
And that can shift.

566
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,560
So I just want to give that
disclaimer, I guess with

567
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,760
everything energetically, this
is like a snapshot of what in

568
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,440
the moment.
So in 6-8 weeks, you know, maybe

569
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,400
their body needs a little
something different.

570
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:26,840
But I know people spend a lot of
frustration trying different

571
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,680
things, seeing what works, trial
and error, and it's really been

572
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,240
cool to like have like the
snapshot to make

573
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,400
recommendations.
Yeah, that does sound really,

574
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,720
really awesome.
And you had told me that Turkey

575
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,880
doesn't do well for Kimberly,
and I didn't.

576
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,480
It was like as soon as you said
that, I was like, Oh my gosh.

577
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,200
She was having a few months back
some kind of like food aversion

578
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,680
issues.
And it was very frustrating

579
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,400
trying to figure out what was
going on.

580
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200
And it happened that I was
feeding her Turkey at that time.

581
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:12,080
And it took, it took weeks,
honestly, for me to kind of get

582
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,240
more for her to get back into
like just OK, I'm eating like it

583
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,280
was always, it was like this
struggle for a while.

584
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
And her body didn't feel good,
so she.

585
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,480
Yeah, and fortunately, I, I
already didn't have any more

586
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Turkey in the house, but just
knowing that like, it was almost

587
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,840
like I felt like, oh, I should
have realized, but I, I didn't

588
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,640
at all.
But then we as soon as you said

589
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,880
it, I was like, it was like it
popped in my head like it was

590
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Turkey.
That was because I remember I

591
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200
had a couple pounds of it and I
was like, well, you know, we'll

592
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,720
cook it.
And we'll, you know which, you

593
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,320
know, gently cooking it on the
stove.

594
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,680
And it got her like, she would
eat it, but she was like not

595
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840
excited about it.
And she was really kind of

596
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,640
standoffish.
And yeah, it took, it took us a

597
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,640
while.
And so now I'm like, all right,

598
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,640
we're good.
That it was also very

599
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,240
confirming.
Yeah.

600
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,480
To, you know, like those little
things that come up, I'm sure in

601
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,760
sessions all the time where.
People are like aha moments.

602
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Yes.
I work with a lot of picky

603
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,800
eaters also just to get cut up
to the root of what's going on.

604
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040
And sometimes it's emotional and
sometimes just within their

605
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,840
body, their digestion needs some
support or detox or something

606
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,400
that they're feeling nauseous or
something deeper or that certain

607
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,320
foods are causing their body not
to feel good when they eat.

608
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Or sometimes it's just
preference.

609
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,840
So sometimes they're telling me
foods that they want, and then

610
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,120
I'm like, your body doesn't
really like that.

611
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,360
But just like us, you know, so
obviously love the taste of some

612
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,280
things that are our highest
alignment.

613
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Yeah.
I know I had to have a client

614
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,840
who gives his dog so much cheese
and he's like, I need him to

615
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,120
lose weight and I'm like, we
have got to cut the cheese.

616
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Cheese is a huge request for
dogs, yeah.

617
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,320
He's like, but my dog loves it
so much and it's sometimes it's

618
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,440
all he wants to eat.
And I'm like, OK, well, you

619
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,080
know, just not obviously not
doing what you do, but like,

620
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,120
just walking him through the
like, OK, we're going to reserve

621
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,280
cheese for like, special
occasions and let's make it raw

622
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120
and let's make it, you know,
like, let's try to make this as

623
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,680
healthy as possible because his
dog definitely needs to lose

624
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,720
more weight than I would like.
But yeah.

625
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,480
But it's funny how you know.
Obviously they have preferences

626
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,080
just like we do, though if they
had never gotten it in the first

627
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,800
place they wouldn't know to
crave it.

628
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,720
Yeah.
Oh, this dog, it was I, I think

629
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,680
I had mentioned you that like
food came up a lot yesterday in

630
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,720
my sessions where this dog said
I really love when you give me

631
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,840
bread.
He wanted me to tell his person

632
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320
that.
And oh, that's interesting

633
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,720
because like if I try to give
him a piece of my bagel or

634
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,120
something, he's not that into
it.

635
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,880
But we have a friend who makes
this bread out of a sourdough

636
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
starter.
And like, this starter is like,

637
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,160
really meaningful to her.
There's something behind it

638
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,720
that, like, she's had it for a
long time and it means a lot to

639
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,760
her.
And she makes these loaves of

640
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040
bread and shares it with her
friends.

641
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,040
And the dog was like, yes, that
bread is infused with love.

642
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,240
Like, it tastes so good because
I can like, feel the love in

643
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,840
that bread, like the energy of
it.

644
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,640
That's amazing.
So what are and obviously you

645
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,760
don't have to like give me
anything that would be like a

646
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240
tell or make anybody feel weird
or embarrassed, but like what

647
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,200
are some of the stranger
requests that you you've gotten

648
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,000
from animals?
Oh, someone whose boyfriend

649
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680
doesn't live with them so he'll
like come and stay sometimes and

650
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920
leave.
The dog was like, can he leave

651
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,280
his dirty underwear here on the
bed when he leaves without?

652
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Like, I'm just the messenger.
That's what your dog's asking.

653
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Like, so sometimes dogs will,
you know, request funny things

654
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,520
or I, I had posted or someone
had posted something about this.

655
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640
I had this dog yesterday who
kept going on about the

656
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080
grandma's hair.
She was like, she's not the

657
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,120
nicest hair.
And then she tells her mom,

658
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,880
well, you have nice hair too,
but like, not as nice as

659
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,560
grandma's.
Like, just like, OK.

660
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,880
You know, yeah, backhanded.
She's nice, yeah.

661
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Or yeah.
So I love when they have their

662
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,400
like personality come through or
like really confident dogs.

663
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,920
I had and I was asked permission
before sharing anything, just to

664
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,160
put that up there that if
something comes up in session,

665
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
you know, I like to that's fun
to share.

666
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
I asked permission of the person
and the dog.

667
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000
And a lot of dogs, like, want to
share this stuff.

668
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Like, I'm sure Kimberly would
want everyone to know that she's

669
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Princess Sparkles, like going to
be proud of that.

670
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,800
Like, you know.
Yeah.

671
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:23,280
And I had a dog that wanted to
do yoga with her mom and she

672
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,720
wanted like, she's had a purple
mat next to her, which she's

673
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,400
like, oh, I do have an extra mat
with purple, you know?

674
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
And then she said she wanted to,
like, have her picture taken and

675
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,160
share it with everyone.
So some dogs like really want to

676
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,760
be like out there and showing
off, you know their stuff, so.

677
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Also saw a cat that wanted to go
to ride in the basketball

678
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,960
bicycle.
I like love this cat, which this

679
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,040
is like stuff that I'm like so
that when I'm saying it, you

680
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,080
look, I have to have a trust
muscle because I'm like, first

681
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
of all, your cat is telling me
that he wants to wear a hat and

682
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400
like logically I'm like, why
would your cat want to wear a

683
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,840
hat?
Like what cat wants to wear a

684
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
hat?
But this is what he's showing

685
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,280
me.
Like I was seeing a hat on him

686
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,560
and she owns a store.
I can't.

687
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,600
He would want everyone to know.
So Lone Star pet in Arizona and

688
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960
he actually like in the first
session I ever did with him,

689
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,280
he's like, I want to go to the
store more and same thing.

690
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640
I'm like, my cats would never
want to come and hang out at a

691
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,320
store where there's people and
dogs coming in and out.

692
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000
You know, this dog, this cat,
like, wants to be there.

693
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,440
So he hangs out at her store and
I guess she has a display with

694
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,880
some hats on it, like for dogs.
And he's seeing that.

695
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,480
So she's like, yeah, he's seen a
dog hat.

696
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,040
And I'm like, well, he wants his
own hat.

697
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,600
So he's been wearing hats and he
absolutely loves them.

698
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,680
And he's like feeling himself.
And then he also told me, like,

699
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,480
I want to ride a bike.
And I'm like telling me he wants

700
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,160
to ride a bike.
Like this seems makes she got

701
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
him a basket and he's loving the
bike.

702
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120
He's wearing his hat in his bike
basket.

703
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,200
And last time I talked to him
because we chat frequently, he's

704
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,400
like, tell my mom to go faster
on the bike.

705
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,800
Like.
So yeah, some animals are just

706
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,320
like, yeah, crack me up and.
Yeah, it's like he sounds like

707
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,440
he would make a very good
adventure cut.

708
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Well, that's how he words it.
See, he's like, I want to go on

709
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,520
adventures because the first
time I ever, or maybe one of our

710
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,800
first sessions he had, they live
in like the desert in Arizona.

711
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,920
He had gotten out of their yard
and came back with cactus in him

712
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,040
and stuff.
And he so she's like, you have

713
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
to tell him to stay in the yard.
That's dangerous.

714
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,880
And he's like, well then you
need to take me on more

715
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,560
adventures.
Like I'm going to find my own

716
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,720
adventure if you don't take me
on these adventures.

717
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Wow, it is interesting,
especially for a cat.

718
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,880
But I I mean, you know, to each
their own.

719
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Yeah.
Of someone who knew about this

720
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,720
cat, you know, I connected with
her cat and she's like, ask him

721
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,000
if he wants to wear a hat and
he's like, what?

722
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,560
No.
And then so, you know, like he

723
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,000
wants to stay in the yard.
He's like a little jealous.

724
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,440
They go on walks around the
neighborhood without him.

725
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,800
But if they asked you want to
come and he's like, no, I want

726
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,720
to stay in the yard, but can you
talk about me while you are on

727
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,360
your walks?
And then she sent me a message

728
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,680
last week saying they took a
Walker in the neighborhood and

729
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,240
they made sure to like, chat
about him during it.

730
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,840
And when they came back, he was
like waiting at the fence, which

731
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,560
is unusual for him that they he
was like seem very pleased that

732
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,520
they have been chatting about
it.

733
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,720
It's.
Adorable.

734
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:51,120
So when you're doing these
sessions, do you do you feel

735
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,800
like this is going to be a weird
question?

736
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,800
Do you feel like people or pets
get the most out of them?

737
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Oh, I feel like initially the
pets, but the deeper or longer,

738
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,280
like the more sessions I do with
people, then the more they open

739
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,920
up and see the shifts within
themselves also.

740
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Yeah.
So I feel like on the on the

741
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,240
surface, at first they might
recognize it within their pet

742
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,480
and then as we go deeper with
more sessions, they really start

743
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,760
to see shifts within themselves
also.

744
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,400
Yeah, and I I just can't help
but wonder if like that's their

745
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,200
pets intention all along.
Yes, yeah, I think so.

746
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,800
Yeah.
They really care about us and

747
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,920
want us to, yeah, be happy and
healthy.

748
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Yeah, yeah, I think, and this is
just my brain rambling, but like

749
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,160
I, I, I often feel like as
humans we, we are so egotistical

750
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,680
as a species, like everything is
about us all the time.

751
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:08,920
And we so many of us, I think,
overlook the fact that all of

752
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,720
the animals.
I also feel like the plants and

753
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,160
I.
Was just going to say that like

754
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,280
everything, yes, I truly believe
there's spirit within everything

755
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,160
around us.
I use flower essences all the

756
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,400
time and they're deeply powerful
so.

757
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Yeah, yeah.
I felt like I don't do a lot of

758
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,600
gardening, but when you were
talking about that person

759
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,800
needing to get into the, you
know, into the gardening, like

760
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,800
that was his spiritual practice
like that.

761
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,000
Hit me.
When you said that I do have

762
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,040
plants that I care for but I
don't consider myself a

763
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,680
gardener, but it is definitely
something that like I talked to

764
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,760
my plans and I haven't seen
Gloria in like 4 days and I'm

765
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,000
outside every night.
Like where are you?

766
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,160
I love Gloria.
My my frog friend who likes to

767
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Burrow herself in the soil
around my palm tree.

768
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,600
And I think for me, once I
shifted my perspective to that,

769
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,080
like, life got so much more
beautiful and enjoyable that

770
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,920
like, I tried to be mindful of
everything around me and give

771
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,320
thanks and acknowledge it.
You know when a little bug is on

772
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,000
you, you like, oh, instead of,
you know, you're like, say hello

773
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,680
to it.
Yeah, I try to do that.

774
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,680
I I will not kill a spider.
And I think spiders are like the

775
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,520
best houseguests because they
just clean up everything.

776
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,760
Clean up all the ants and the
bugs and the they're amazing

777
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,520
little things.
Ticks are the only thing I just,

778
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,640
oh, I'm just like crashing a
tick the other day and I'm like,

779
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:57,040
I'm sorry, but you're the only
little, but you can give a

780
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,960
little blessing.
You know, it's like that was the

781
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,120
other tip that a dog gave
yesterday about food.

782
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,960
They're talking about eating
high residence food, food that's

783
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
grown with love, vegetables and
things that are.

784
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,160
But then they said, but also you
should say a blessing over your

785
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,840
food.
It's good for your physical

786
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,000
health.
I'm going to try to word it like

787
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,280
the dog did.
It's good for your physical

788
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,640
health to say more prayers over
your food.

789
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Oh, that's so sweet.
Like it, it raises the vibration

790
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,240
and sends blessings to your
food, which will in turn nourish

791
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:35,280
your body in the deeper level.
That's so sweet, I love that.

792
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,720
I love that idea.
I'll have to do that too.

793
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Yeah, I learned so much.
Exactly.

794
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,000
So today when I ate, I make
sure, like, thank you.

795
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,760
Yeah.
A reminder because yeah, I'm

796
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,440
yeah.
In that practice.

797
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Or we associate that practice
maybe with a religion from

798
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,560
childhood that we're no longer
practice, but we can do all

799
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,480
these things however it feels
right for us.

800
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,720
So many people could benefit
from this.

801
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:09,040
Like even even skeptics can
benefit from it, I think because

802
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,760
even if in the moment they're
like, yeah, like they might

803
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:20,960
start seeing patterns or like
something that you are, you

804
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,200
know, whoever they choose to
work with said to them, they

805
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,120
could start seeing that like,
wait a minute, so and so said

806
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,680
this and now my dog or, you
know, my cat is doing, you know,

807
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,360
whatever.
Like I think that.

808
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,440
And any and everybody can
benefit from the kind of work.

809
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:49,840
Yeah, and I've been go of like
my job like or my intention is

810
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,760
not to just like convince anyone
that they should work with me.

811
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,560
I feel like if I feel in
residence, then you'll reach out

812
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,160
and you know, like spreading the
word about I do explaining what

813
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,400
I do, but I'm not trying to like
sell anyone anything because it

814
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
has to be in the time that's
right for them.

815
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,360
And I've also let go of like not
be it is not.

816
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,520
It does not hurt me or offend me
If you are skeptical of what I

817
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,120
do.
Like that's your own journey.

818
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
And it's not anything personal
against me.

819
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,960
How we talk.
Like, you know, I would say like

820
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,760
95% of my clients are female.
And yeah, there is like if

821
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,280
they're males come in, it's
usually like as a partner.

822
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,680
And sometimes people say, or
it'll come up in session.

823
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200
So their guides will tell me
he's skeptical of you.

824
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,400
He's like around the room, but
he's skeptical of you.

825
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,360
And I'm like, that's OK.
Like it's fine.

826
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,840
I'm just here to offer what
comes through and then people

827
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,000
can do what they want with it or
what feels in resonance with it.

828
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,160
I think it's beautiful and I I
have worked with a handful of

829
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,840
animal communicators and I will
say like at the beginning I

830
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,720
didn't know the things to ask,
like to feel more comfortable.

831
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:17,680
I guess I had a couple of, I
don't want to say they were bad

832
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,040
experiences, but I definitely
had people who didn't do what

833
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,800
you do as far as like asking
permission, which I saw cause

834
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,080
negative effects and and my
animals, they didn't like that.

835
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,360
They didn't want somebody coming
in and just like barging in

836
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,160
without.
No, you should ask permission

837
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,560
then introduce yourself and let
them know what's going on.

838
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,920
And the animals are guiding the
sessions for me.

839
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,920
I'm never forcing anything and
every step I'm asking animal

840
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,600
permission and also asking if
it's in the highest good for

841
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,400
them because sometimes things
are just too intense.

842
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,760
I mean, we can't go into therapy
in a layer everything in one

843
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,320
session.
Like same for them.

844
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,360
Like some stuff is maybe you
don't want to go back to a

845
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,680
traumatic event and go through
that energy, you know, like, so

846
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
yeah, everything needs to be
done with respect.

847
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,840
Yeah, no, it's hard for sure to
do that, to go back and revisit.

848
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,440
It's like that that you haven't
worked through at all.

849
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,920
It's just like.
So I imagine it is it is just as

850
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,120
difficult for them.
But if people do feel called to

851
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,480
learn more about your services
or even just go ahead and book

852
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,160
with you, where can they find
you?

853
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,680
Well, I'm on Instagram, magical.
Let's Michelle and then I have a

854
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,560
website that you can do online
booking.

855
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:50,160
It's just magical.lux.com and
you can reach out by on my

856
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,600
website or DM me on Instagram if
you have any questions at all.

857
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,280
So I'm happy to share.
That's awesome.

858
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000
It's also in the show notes for
anybody who, if you happen to be

859
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800
driving and you're not like
writing stuff down, you can

860
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,960
always go to the pet
parentingreset.com and pull up

861
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,880
the show and pull up the show
notes and you'll see all of the

862
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,680
information for Michelle there.
And I just want to thank you

863
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,920
again, because I, I personally
feel like there are a handful of

864
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,720
things that I'm like, yes, I
want to do this, I want to do

865
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:23,960
that, I want to do this, I want
to do that.

866
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
And there are a couple of things
that I'm like, I definitely

867
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,480
don't want to do.
One of those things is like

868
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,280
grief counseling.
And, and I feel like that even

869
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,120
even with connecting more in
with myself, I couldn't, I don't

870
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,480
know that I could do what you do
as far as like the number of

871
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,360
animals and people that you work
with and try like there's just

872
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,520
so much room in there for I
don't know, I just, I don't

873
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400
think.
Yeah, it was like some like, I

874
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,520
deeply care about everyone, but
I also like, I think it comes

875
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,880
down to trace that I just make
an offering and then I have to

876
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,920
release that they do with it.
I can't hold on to controlling

877
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,440
anything but outcome, you know?
Yeah, I, I get that.

878
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,400
I'm definitely not there.
So I very, very much respect and

879
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,960
appreciate what you do.
And I'm looking forward to the

880
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,680
next time we meet for for
Kimberly, which we'll probably

881
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
be in a couple of months.
So like, like the more that I

882
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,200
connect with an animal too, it's
just like they open up more and

883
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,640
like the other person that you
just comes through.

884
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,200
Yeah.
And they'll, you know, be like,

885
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,680
oh, I remember you.
I like you, you know, for my

886
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,080
amigo.
That's fun to hear where I'm

887
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,920
like, oh.
Yeah, well, I mean, you're not

888
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,800
going to like meet somebody for
the first time and like, share

889
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,400
your whole life story.
That's not going to happen.

890
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,560
Yeah, I mean, some some animals
are chatty right away, but some,

891
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,200
you know, just like people.
There's a doggy daycare where

892
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:59,920
I've been seeing like a lot of
dogs at the daycare.

893
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So it's really fun because
they'll like talk about each

894
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,480
other and are like, you know,
oh, I already know you so and so

895
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,320
told me about you like oh, OK,
getting the know all of us.

896
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,440
The daycare so cool that is so
cool.

897
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,040
I love that so much.
And I do, I mean, after having

898
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,600
had the session with you, I like
fully in support of it.

899
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,480
And I think I told you like I
don't like having people on that

900
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040
I haven't used their product or
service.

901
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:36,680
And so I want to be able to say
like, yes, I can.

902
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,400
I can honestly say that like
this was beneficial that I

903
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,400
didn't find any like there
wasn't anything negative like I

904
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,280
was telling you, like the first
couple of animal communicators I

905
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,520
worked with years ago.
I there was definitely like

906
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,000
blowback with my animals and.
Like your animals start having

907
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,360
behavioral like showing you that
they weren't happy.

908
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,880
Really, really interesting.
My cat Romeo, who just passed, I

909
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,680
had three different people,
well, two animal communicators

910
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,760
and one muscle tester will
connect with him and did not

911
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,680
like go through the process that
you and also Karen Dindy Smith

912
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,920
did.
So he was good with her and then

913
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,440
Kim was good with you where like
asking permission and you know,

914
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,720
all of that like ritual thing
that you do when you start.

915
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,120
And he would literally walk
around the entire room and spray

916
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:40,240
everywhere while in session.
And in fact, the muscle tester,

917
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,400
I, I knew exactly when she was
tapping into him because she did

918
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,160
it remotely.
I wasn't like on the phone or

919
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,840
anything with her.
She just did it on her own.

920
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,200
I knew exactly when it was
happening because he walked

921
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,880
around the whole room.
Sprain.

922
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, cats like to give

923
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,160
strong messages with urine,
unfortunately.

924
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Yes.
I was like, I texted her or I

925
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,280
got the e-mail from her the next
morning that like she had done

926
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,920
blah, blah, blah, whatever.
And I was like, OK, that's what

927
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
happened.
Oh my gosh, I love cats so much.

928
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,320
But that is unfortunate that
that's the way they show their

929
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,640
displeasure.
Often it's and that is actually

930
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,680
the ultimate thing when someones
like my cat stop peeing on

931
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,960
something after our session.
Like, that's like the Holy Grail

932
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,360
of like, accomplishments.
Yes, believe me, I feel that on

933
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,120
such a deep level.
All right guys, please check out

934
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,600
magical mutts Michelle on
Instagram, magical.mutts.com

935
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,520
online and again, highly
recommend her and I really look

936
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,480
forward to hearing from you.
What happens if you do book a

937
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,520
session, but you obviously do
not have to let me know, but I

938
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,440
would love to hear about it.
Thank you so much, Michelle.

939
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,680
Do you have any like hurting
words for anybody who like?

940
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280
I don't know.
People often ask, like, what do

941
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,480
I need to do to prepare for a
session?

942
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,120
And I say just come in with an
open mind and open heart and

943
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
that's it.
That's it, I love it, an open

944
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,320
mind and an open heart.
And with that, you guys have a

945
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,280
great rest of your week.
Thank you so much for hanging

946
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,040
out with us this week.
Please give your pets some extra

947
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,000
love from me and Michelle this
week.

948
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,840
I will talk to you next week.

Michelle Thomas

Intuitive Animal Communicator

Michelle Thomas is an intuitive energy worker and animal communicator. She has a rich background in veterinary medicine working as a licensed veterinary technician. Michelle realized through this work and her own life experiences that true health can not be achieved without addressing the deeper emotional and spiritual realm. Michelle works with clients in partnership with their animals to truly get to know their pets and themselves on a deeper level. Michelle connects with your animals( she calls it the all request line), with their bodies to receive information on how to best support them, and directly with their spirit guides to hold space for releasing emotions and energetic patterns that no longer serve them. Through this there can be profound shifts in physical and emotional wellbeing. Michelle lives in VT with her 4 cats & 3 mutts. She is grateful to have the opportunity to connect with so many animals and their people and the profound lessons they continue to teach her.