Supplements 101 on the Weekly Pet Roundup

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Welcome to the weekly pet
roundup.

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I hope you had a great weekend.
For those of you who.

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Don't know who we are?
I'm Isabel and that's Jessica.

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And we do this every week,
almost every week.

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And today our topic of choice is
pet supplements.

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Oh, such a big topic.
Such a big topic, but so

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important because I feel like so
many of us get sucked into

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marketing with supplements.
Hi, Kara.

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Hi.
Rob High Adventures Kara, how

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are you?
Thanks for joining us.

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Please comment when you have
anything to share 'cause you are

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also an expert in pet nutrition
and I'm sure you have many

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thoughts.
On supplements, yes, and let us

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know.
On Insta Isabel, you sound very

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tiny and far away.
I can fix that.

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Good.
Well, you do.

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OK, I was going to say you were
trying a new.

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I'm trying new.
Advance and they are obviously a

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no go.
Well, supplements.

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So there's some really, really
good ones out there.

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There's some really, really bad
ones out there.

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There's a lot of ones out there.
And I think there, there are a

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handful of things that I'm like,
OK, I really want you guys to

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take these things away.
If you take nothing else away,

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One of them being just because a
supplement is amazing doesn't

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mean your animal needs it.
Another is that OK?

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Another is that you can have the
best supplements in the world

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and they can do a really good
job, but they can only do as

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good a job as the food you're
feeding, if that makes any

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sense.
If the diet isn't good or great,

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ideally the supplement can only
do so much, and it's a really

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good thing to rotate supplements
and audit your supplements.

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I don't care if we're talking
about pets or people, it's

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always a good idea to rotate
them out, to pulse them and to

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audit them every once in a
while.

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I personally am in the middle of
auditing all of my supplements

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right now.
And you know, I have really,

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really cut back on the
supplements that I use for my

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pets.
I have a supplement graveyard

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just like everybody else.
And so it is so important that

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we not get like we can get
overwhelmed by the number of

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supplements that are in our
cabinets and we can also feel

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defeated because we bought so
much and we're not getting the

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desired results.
So that's kind of where I want

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to start.
Everything else is just gravy

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after after those statements.
But I know, like, you don't do a

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ton of supplements either,
right, Isabel?

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I try to spend my money on the
food.

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That's really where I want to
spend my money is on the food.

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And then there are specific
supplements.

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Can you hear me or no?
So now I have an echo.

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You have an echo.
Yes, I don't hear it though, so

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it must I mean and I can only
hear on stream yard though, and

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they're saying it's on
Instagram.

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I was just about to fix that.
OK.

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So this should be good.
OK.

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Like can you?
Hear me?

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Can you hear me OK, 'cause I
never see what people are

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commenting.
I only see like the first two

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comments and then I never see
anything else.

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That's crazy.
Oh, she says.

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It's fixed.
OK, good.

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Awesome.
Well, I don't.

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Should I repeat all of that or?
No, No.

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No, I think, I think you were
good.

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I think you were good.
I think they probably heard you

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twice, but.
They said Yep.

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But they were like, I heard it
just fine, which is weird.

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But yeah, I don't, I don't spend
a lot of money on

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supplementation with a caveat.
Very old dogs, very old pets.

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That's where I will.
I don't, I don't see anything.

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What are they saying?
Oh, I'm sorry.

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OK.
Isabel sounds great.

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Diane says fixed.
Millie's Raw Life says we heard

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it.
Raw Paw Adventure says now we

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heard it.
OK, great.

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So yeah, senior, I do.
I, I think I kind of, I can, I

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can agree.
Especially like senior animals

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and then also animals in a
disease state, we often will

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supplement a little bit more.
I still think, you know, pulsing

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and rotating is a good thing,
especially with certain types of

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supplements.
And then we can also get into

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the like rabbit hole of sourcing
and ingredients and.

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Well, I feel like that's not a
rabbit hole.

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I feel like that's supplements
one O 1 because yes, because I

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feel, and I may be wrong.
Obviously the audience that

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joins us is very educated, but
when I, I, I interact a lot with

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like newbie pet parents or like
less involved, less educated pet

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parents who are just busy and
have so much going on that they

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don't have the time to curate
their own like pet specific, you

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know, curriculum every day,
right?

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So those pet parents are buying
their supplements at like

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Costco, you know what I mean?
Or like PetSmart or Target, if

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Target even has supplements.
But like, that's where they're

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getting stuff.
And unfortunately, and I say

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this to my husband constantly
because my husband is, has been

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known to go to Costco and get
supplements and I love Costco.

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This is not anything against
Costco, one of my favorite

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stores and and one of the places
I spend most of my money.

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This is just that their
supplements are what you'd find

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at like Walgreens or CVS.
And that is not to me, an

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optimal supplement, right?
Like, and so when you talk about

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supplementation, for me, it's
like that's not the rabbit hole.

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The rabbit hole is I guess, you
know, you could look at like an

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herb or like a homeopathic
something or other, which I

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guess somehow falls under
supplementation sometimes or CBD

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or I don't know what else, some
kind of mineral or whatever.

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And you can think like the
rabbit hole is that 1 mineral

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can like address so many things,
right?

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So like that to me is like,
maybe we won't get into all

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that, but think about what you
buy online.

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Maybe the you've recommended
before the, the New Zealand

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organ meets for human organ
supplements for humans.

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I mean, if you were to buy that
same thing, let's say it's like

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beef liver supplement
supplements at at Costco, it's

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not going to be the caliber that
you would get going directly to

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that.
Remind me the name of it Carton

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soil.
Carton soil, Yeah, sometimes it

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can be.
A lot of times it won't be.

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For for Costco specifically, the
pet supplementation is crap.

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I've never seen anything of
quality there.

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There is like once in a while
for the human stuff, a good

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item.
And if you're, you know, savvy

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enough, you'll figure it out.
When I was taking Ashwagandha,

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they had a really good one.
I, I don't take it that much

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anymore, but like they had a
good one that I actually like

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did my research and it was like,
this one's a really good one And

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This is why.
And it happened to be at Costco.

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But like they're selling the
mainstream stuff there for

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supplementation for dogs
specifically, like for hip and

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joint.
And I feel like there's a

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better, there are better options
out there if you do have like an

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older dog or you have a dog with
who's like predisposed to hip

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dysplasia or something like
that, where you're trying to

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supplement and like keep their
quality of life.

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It's not going to fix it.
But you're trying to maintain

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the quality of life, you know,
But the problem is, I feel like

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most pet parents are not buying
the good stuff.

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So even if they are spending
their money, they're not going

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to see any kind of benefit from
the supplements.

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These are the same pet parents
who are probably not spending a

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lot of money on nutrition
either.

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So the bulk of their pet budget
is probably going to veterinary

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care, unfortunately.
So yeah.

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So like what what you said is
you focus on nutrition first,

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which 100% I agree always.
Then the supplement is on a, an

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as needed basis.
But like what supplement?

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And like, that's where I, I
really like to talk to people

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about like supplements, 'cause
everybody when they have an old

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dog's like, yeah, he takes
glucosamine, right?

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Yeah.
And like, they think they're

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doing everything they can for
this dog, giving them the

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glucosamine that they found at
Costco.

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So OK, so many things that you
brought up.

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First of all, there is not a
single thing in the pet section

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at Costco that I would recommend
you spend your money on.

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Not for a single thing in the
pet section at Costco.

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Agreed, As much as I love you
Costco, I'm gonna go for like

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only the organic foods, the
organic produce.

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And that is not for pets, that's
for us.

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And you can share it with your
pets.

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You, yes, absolutely share that
with your pets.

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Here's the thing about big box
stores like Costco and Sam's

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Club.
The only items that are coming

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in are items where the brand is
big enough to sustain sending in

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humongous amounts of product,
which by the way, it cannot be.

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It can be the same product that
you find somewhere else, but it

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has to be altered a little bit.
Where like it can be a 2 pack or

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you're getting a case of 16 and
instead of a case of 12.

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Like it has to be altered in
some way that it's not directly

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comparable to anything else that
you get anywhere else from that

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brand.
And if it if it doesn't sell in

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a certain amount of time, not
only do you are you are fitting

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the bill, footing the bill for
putting all of that product in

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that Costco or Sam's Club
location, but you're also paying

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for floor space and you are also
paying to move it to another

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location if it doesn't sell it.
Like it has to be a company that

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can sustain this kind of
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So no, you're not getting the
best of the best.

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You're getting what yes, you're
getting the most popular and

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since you brought up heart and
soil, I did want to say because

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I promised somebody when I
posted about this in stories,

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they were asking specifically
about a supplement for a female

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reproductive supplement for
spayed dogs.

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That isn't standard process.
So I, I'm not against standard

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process supplements, but they,
they're general.

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They do often times have things
in them that you're like, I

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don't necessarily want to give
that to my dog.

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They're a combination of herbs
and glandulars, which I don't

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think is a bad thing.
But again, when we when we buy

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products that are made in bulk
like that, especially like

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herbal products that are,
they're made for a very

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generalized population.
So you might not want to use

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that for every individual
animal.

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So heart and soil is actually
one of those companies that I do

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like their beef organ
supplements.

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They have female reproductive
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They also have male reproductive
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But that's what where I would go
if you are not interested in

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using standard process.
So that answers that question.

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Diane also says, I read in
humans the body does not

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recognize supplements, so they
could actually be damaging us.

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So that's another thing that and
you brought up a fact like what

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you're getting in Costco is what
you're getting at Walgreens or

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CVS or something like that.
I generally speaking, do not

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recommend synthetic supplements
because the body doesn't always

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know what to do with them.
They are when, when we, there

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are a few exceptions, I will
say, but generally speaking,

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when we pull one thing out of
nature and say, you know, run it

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through a lab, the, the lab
makes this one thing over and

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over and over again.
We're giving, we're putting that

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in the body.
It's considered synthetic

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because it's created in the lab.
It's created in a vacuum

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basically like where there is no
consideration for cofactors or

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Co nutrients or what else is
going on in the body.

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So yes, very often that and
that's one of the complaints

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about a lot of like
multivitamins and things like

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that is that you're just paying
all of this money to pee it out,

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right?
Because the body doesn't know

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what to do with that.
Or not.

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Yeah, Yeah, it can, It can
something, some things can build

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up in the body.
And so you, you especially if

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we're, if we're talking about
like fat soluble vitamins, they

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can build up in the body if the
body is, is processing them

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properly.
Again, the whole idea of

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synthetic, I am not a huge fan
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diet itself.
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in trying to get the best
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the highest quality nutrition
where all of the nutrients are

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coming from, Whole Foods, then
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to do a lot of supplementation
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animals are actually going to
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food in whole food form.
Millie's real life says, should

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we supplement to prevent or just
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Yes.
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And then of course, I have to
say this, Diane says, Jessica, I

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love your hair.
Thank you so much.

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So yeah, when we're looking at
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I'm looking for is what is the
desired result from taking a

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supplement?
That's the first thing you have

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to nail down.
What is the result that you're

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looking for when going out and
looking for a supplement?

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what's the best way for me to
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And maybe that's food and maybe
that's a supplement.

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Sometimes we use supplement, we
use food as supplements and

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that's amazing.
Also, you brought up herbs and

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homeopathy.
I think again, herbs are food as

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energetics.
So I, I think homeopathy is

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generally used more for, you can
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a lot more people use it for
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really into homeopathy, then

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maybe use it for everything
chronic and acute and all of it.

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The average person would use it
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I think.
So, OK, know what you want the

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result to be, find the best way
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And then once you narrow down,
OK, you've got this handful or

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maybe only a few supplements
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you're trying to compare them.
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is look at the ingredients and
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inactive ingredients because
you're paying a whole heck of a

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lot of money for something that
what they're just going to, it's

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just going to come right back
out the back end of your animal

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when you're looking at an
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So if there's a lot of junk
starches and cellulose, Oh my

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gosh, I hate cellulose and
you're paying for that.

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So if you can narrow down a
supplement that doesn't have any

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or very minimal inactive
ingredients, you're narrowing

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your selection down even more.
And then from there, you, I

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mean, I personally, I'm going to
look at the brand, I'm going to

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look at the company and I'm
going to see if I align with

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that company.
Is it if it's if it's a company

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that is maybe actually owned by
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Mills or something like that,
then maybe I yeah, maybe I

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actually don't want to use that
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That's me.
That doesn't have to be you, but

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that's me.
And so you just keep narrowing

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it down based on the things that
are important to you and your

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dog.
Ideally, the only thing you're

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putting in your animal is active
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that you want.
And generally speaking that is

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going to be food based.
Sometimes we can do that with

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actually feeding our dog that
food, and sometimes they're very

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picky or we have or they won't.
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Or they're just appetites down.
If they're sick, it's harder to

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get in.
Yeah, or they're a child like

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mine.
You know where my mom's always

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like, why do you give them so
many vitamins and supplements?

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I'm like, because I know they're
not getting it from their food.

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You know what I mean?
Like they have lunch at school.

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We never, never gonna talk bad
about like the food they get,

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which is great that they get
food and but I don't know how

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much they're eating.
I don't know what the menu was

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that day.
I'm not the parent that's

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checking the menu every day and
I'm not standing over their

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shoulder and making sure they
ate the the the vegetable that

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was on that plate.
They might have just eaten the

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quesadilla, right.
So it's hard for me to kind of

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like force feed an animal or a
child.

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I don't believe in that.
So I supplement what I think

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they're not getting because if
they won't eat it, like

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obviously if you have a dog that
or a cat that'll eat anything,

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lucky you.
But not everybody does, right?

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Like not everybody does.
So you're not going to force

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feed.
You may have to like get sneaky

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about stuff, but you know, for
me personally, like I'm not

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eating beef liver, like I'm just
not eating it.

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I'm not going to do it.
I know I don't think I ever

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have.
I think we've talked about this

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before.
I don't think I ever have, and I

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doubt I ever will.
So getting a supplement is the

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perfect way to get those
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And when we talk about old dogs,
I remember taking care of dogs

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with cancer who, like, their
appetite was gone.

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Like they just didn't have one.
And you know, we could sit here

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and split hairs about whether or
not they should even have.

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You know, been existing anymore,
but you know, if if all that was

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keeping them going and they were
still looking forward to their

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walks was that supplementation
they were giving them, then by

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all means.
You know, supplements are can be

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can be quality of life, you
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And that's what I basically use
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I am using now a supplement for
pain that is fantastic, but

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that's, you know, it's a chronic
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There was no diagnosis, there's
no fix because we don't know

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what Satchmo feels or he seems
to be in pain and he's very

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reactive about like him being
touched in his hindquarters.

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He also had his tail docked,
probably in a very inhumane way,

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which is very common.
And so it could be trauma, it

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could be physical pain.
There's no way to know.

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I can't ask him.
So he takes an herbal pain

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supplement and the vet, Chris,
my husband mentioned it to the

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vet and the vet put him on some
medication, right?

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And I'm like, the supplement's
working since we started on the

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supplement.
You know, his gait is better,

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his temperament's better, his
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So to me, that's a great way of
pinpointing what he needs,

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finding something that is
specifically for that chronic

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pain and is working.
And the actual instructions of

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the medication is if you're
doing this long term, that's

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used for like post operative
pain and things like that.

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It says take Sunday off, right?
So if you're doing it long term,

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take a day of the week off.
And so we do that.

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And like you said, it's, it's,
you know, making sure that it's

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the optimal products, following
the method of giving it to them

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either on and off or just like,
you know, when after vaccines,

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I'll do certain supplements just
for the bottle, like I'll use

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just up, up, use up the bottle
and that's it.

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Maybe that's two or three weeks,
maybe a month, but I won't

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continue that supplement
forever.

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It's just kind of to support the
liver during that time after the

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vaccine or the immune system or
whatever.

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So yeah, very, very intentional.
I feel like you have to be very

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intentional about where you buy
it, how it's made, what's in it

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and how long you use it and what
it's for.

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Exactly.
And I mean, I think supplements

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are amazing.
I mean, I like I said, I give

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them to my kids every day
because they give me a Peace of

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Mind.
And I, my kids are so different.

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My dogs are so different.
Like here I have to sneak

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supplements in Satchmo.
Whatever you put in this plate's

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getting eaten, right?
So we have to remember that

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everybody's an individual.
And when we talked about, I

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think it was Diane who said that
like some of them are worse for

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you.
Like, they actually interfere

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with your, your body can't
process them.

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Like all women are constantly
told when they're pregnant to

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take folic acid.
Well, folic acid interferes with

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your body's ability in some
cases, in a lot of the

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population with your ability to
pull folate out of like,

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spinach.
So like you're eating folic

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acid, you're taking a supplement
that's impeding your body's

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process of taking it from the
food.

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So, yeah, knowing that
supplements are not 100% benign

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is probably one of the biggest
motivations for this topic.

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For me.
It's like just and I and I, I

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promise you that I adore my
husband, but like, sometimes I'm

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like, have we not spoken about
this?

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Like, yeah, have I not been
clear that we should not be

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buying any supplements for
anybody at like Walgreens?

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That like, before spending our
money on this, we should be

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looking at what's in it.
And it's not an impulse decision

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like our impulse buy, like, oh,
this label looks good, like

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impulse buy your wine.
Like based.

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On the label, right?
And your budget, like this $9

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dollar bottle of Pinot noir
looks pretty fun.

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OK, that's great.
But a supplement can have, you

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know, like secondary issues.
And I remember when I was

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pregnant and I was in groups,
pregnancy groups, and I would

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say like, you know, try to find
methylated folate in, you know,

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instead of folic acid.
And some people would just be

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like, folic acid is whatever
OBGYN recommends.

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And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I
can assure you, yeah, I can

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assure you that, like, that
OBGYN may not be informed on the

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MTHFR genetic mutation that
makes it so people like me can't

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process that.
So everybody can process certain

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things like beef liver.
We can all process that.

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But there's no issue.
There's no genetic mutation

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that's gonna, like, impede our
ability to, like, eat beef liver

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and, like, pull the nutrients we
need out of it.

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But synthetics becomes a lot
more individual.

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And, like, there's so much we
still don't know, right?

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There's so much like we have no
idea about.

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Well, because they're created in
a vacuum, right?

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They're they're created without
knowing or testing interactions

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with other even synthetics much
less.

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Exactly.
Real food and real nutrients,

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Millie's Raw Life says.
How do you feel about

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multivitamins?
I'm not a fan.

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For pets or for humans?
Because there are multivitamins

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for pets now.
Yeah, either.

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They were.
They were all over Super Zoo.

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Yeah, either.
I know, I know again, because

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most of them are synthetic or at
least have synthetics in them

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and that's not going to be a
problem for 100% of dogs, but it

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is going to be a problem for a
lot of dogs.

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And I just, again, they're
created in a vacuum and that's

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not how life works.
So one of the things that I do

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and I, I have one dog right now
that I'm working with that we

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went down the checklist of all
the things that was, you know,

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this dog was eating.
And I'm like, let's pull the

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synthetics, pull the synthetics
and the dog's doing great.

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Like it, it, it's, and that's
not even, you know, something

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that that's not a study, right?
Like, I'm not putting this out

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for the world to be like, look
like, but I know, and this pet

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parent now knows that her dog is
doing better after we pulled the

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food that had synthetic
ingredients in it, like after

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she has done so many things and
finally her dog is like doing

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really well.
And it's like, wow, that's

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amazing.
And I'm not saying that's every

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single dog, but you know, you
get there some some dogs get

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there.
Some dogs just can't handle it

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the way other dogs can.
And I think we're starting to

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see, I know we talked about this
about a year ago when that the

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whole Purina thing was going
crazy that, you know, OK, dogs

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have been handling dealing with
the onslaught of toxins and

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carcinogens and just horrible
quality foods for generations at

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this point.
And you know, people are like,

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oh, my dogs ate this forever and
ever and they lived to be 40

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years or whatever the heck
they're saying.

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And it's like, it's not, I know,
right?

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It's it's not the same.
It is not, it's not the same

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because the quality of
ingredients have changed, then

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the synthetics have changed and
we have generation after

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generation after generation now
who have passed these traumas

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along to their offspring and
we're just not able to handle

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what we used to be able to
handle.

450
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,920
The thing is true of us, right?
We just, the, the world is so

451
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880
toxic that we're just able to
handle less.

452
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,240
We have to be intentional about
keeping our environment clean,

453
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,720
keeping our food clean and
detoxing our bodies.

454
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
And that's just the reality of
the world we live in.

455
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
So I got off on a tangent there.
I don't know.

456
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Where it was going, you're right
though, you're absolutely right

457
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,520
because it's really epigenetics,
right?

458
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Like it's like how the how the
environment, how our nutrition,

459
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,240
how everything affects our DNA.
Like really that's what it is.

460
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Like it affects our DNA.
And so for the example of the

461
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,800
folic acid, that situation
affects about 50% of the

462
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960
population and that's MTHFR, one
genetic mutation.

463
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160
And then there's like some other
genetic mutations that affect

464
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,800
the other things.
So when you don't know, like how

465
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,480
your body processes methylates
vitamins, for example, if you

466
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,400
have not, if your doctor is not
testing your DNA or your

467
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,680
epigenetics, your response to
these supplements, these

468
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,640
chemicals, these foods even like
right, like yours, freeze dried

469
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,040
beef liver, then you don't know
what's happening.

470
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
You're taking it and you don't
know what's happening.

471
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,200
There are some vitamins that we
take too much of it.

472
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,360
We know that we took too much
because we reach bile tolerance,

473
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080
right?
And like that is, you know, we

474
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,640
were like, oops, that's too much
vitamin C because either your

475
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
stomach starts getting upset or
you just go to the bathroom a

476
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200
lot.
And that's something that our

477
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,240
body tells us.
But like, there's a lot of stuff

478
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,040
our body's not telling us until
it's too late, like when you

479
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,000
know, our pregnancy has issues
and because we don't have the

480
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440
nutrients we need to full to
like, are you this pregnancy?

481
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
You know you.
Have a horrible postpartum

482
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,320
depression because exactly that
that folic acid is built up in

483
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800
your body, right Raw pal
Adventure says multivitamins.

484
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Strong dislike.
Yes for sure.

485
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,480
For sure yes.
Yes.

486
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Yes.
And it's, and it's interesting

487
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600
because I do think that because
of the quality of our food like

488
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,840
magnesium for example, like 60
to 80% of the population, human

489
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800
population is deficient in
magnesium.

490
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Why is that?
Because our soil is deficient in

491
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,000
magnesium and that is something
that every, there are a million

492
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
types of magnesium on the
market.

493
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
So everybody's going to go to
CVS and just get the first

494
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
bottle of magnesium they see.
But magnesium, for example, is

495
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
best absorbed through the skin.
But nobody's going to tell you

496
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760
that because you just go and you
see magnesium, you buy it and

497
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400
you take it And there's
magnesium that's better for

498
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
sleep and there's magnesium
that's better for energy and

499
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,840
there's magnesium.
And they all have a different

500
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720
name, magnesium this and
magnesium that.

501
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,880
And unless you do your research,
which unfortunately most

502
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,280
consumers don't do, you are
likely to get a magnesium that

503
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160
your body is not going to take
anything out of that you're

504
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200
really, it's mostly fillers.
The amount of magnesium that's

505
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
actually in that tablet might be
negligible.

506
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
So you're not going to be
replacing the magnesium that

507
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520
you're using every day like
magnesium, vitamin C, every

508
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
single organ uses that, right?
So like you need it, but then

509
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
you think you're taking this and
you think you're giving your dog

510
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,280
this.
Great, you know, hip and joint

511
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080
supplement and you're like, yay,
I'm doing what I'm supposed to

512
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680
be doing and you're not seeing
any results.

513
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,880
You don't feel any more
energetic.

514
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Your dog still limping and
you're like, what the heck?

515
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
And then you just stop because
you get discouraged.

516
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,640
And it's not about getting
discouraged.

517
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,600
It's about being educated on
what you're doing.

518
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
And that's why I'm always so
grateful to like people like

519
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Jessica and Cara Rappa
adventures and Bronwyn of

520
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Dulcie's legacy.
I always say wrong.

521
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,480
She's going to be on my show
this week, actually.

522
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,560
But I I've learned so much about
what just from what they share,

523
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,320
right?
Like, just from what you guys

524
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,840
like put out that you're feeding
your pets.

525
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,600
I've learned so much because I
may not have a pet with their

526
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,840
same pets ailments, but it's,
you know, it's kind of like 6 or

527
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,400
maybe I'll learn about a brand.
Like Jessica was so sweet.

528
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,760
She sent a Christmas gift to my
family and one of the things she

529
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,840
sent was Gussie's guts, the
powder like a little green.

530
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,600
It's called greens, right?
Like.

531
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Gussie's guts.
Yeah, they're the daily.

532
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Yeah, the Daily Greens and.
You know, it's, it's been so

533
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
great for my dogs.
It's been fantastic.

534
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,000
It's I already knew the brand,
but I had never used that

535
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640
particular product.
So by learning from these other

536
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,880
people, maybe what she uses with
Kim is not what Kira needs

537
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,960
because they're considerably
different in age.

538
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,480
But I can learn about the brand.
Then I can go to that brand

539
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,800
knowing that somebody I trust
uses it and I can see if there's

540
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,920
anything that I can add to my
pets diet.

541
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,160
So that's why I'm like,
supplementation is so nuanced

542
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
and everybody buys supplements
with the best of intentions.

543
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,840
Because like really, if I'm
going to spend $70.00 on a

544
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
bottle of supplements or a new
pair of shoes, I really want the

545
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,080
new pair of shoes, I'm not going
to lie.

546
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,720
But I'm going to buy the
supplement thinking I'm doing

547
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
something good for myself.
But if I'm not, how frustrating

548
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,639
is that?
It it's, yes, it's very

549
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,679
frustrating.
And there, I mean, there are,

550
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,560
gosh, there's so many things.
And and This is why I'm like, we

551
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,719
have got to figure out how to,
we're never going to, I'm going

552
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,840
to do my air quotes, get over
shiny object syndrome.

553
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,080
I think that's just kind of like
built into our brains, but we

554
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,120
have to be able to like
individually figure out how we

555
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,400
can snap ourselves out of it and
like take stock of if we

556
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080
actually need something or not.
A lot of times I will add

557
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,320
something to my cart and tell
myself if I add something to my

558
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
cart, I have to at least sleep
on it before I purchase it,

559
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,840
right?
Because I might need to do more

560
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,480
research on it.
And so for example, you know,

561
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,280
you don't want to take vitamin
D3 without also taking K2, but

562
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,320
also if you take it in a capsule
with fat, because they're both

563
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,320
fat soluble vitamins, then it's
it's easier to absorb.

564
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,280
So like I take my vitamin D3 and
K2 and coconut oil to make sure

565
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,080
that it's it's more bioavailable
that I'm getting the benefit out

566
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,280
of it that I need there.
I mean, there are so many

567
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,280
situations like that.
And then on the other end of the

568
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,520
spectrum, like I don't, I
personally take a magnesium

569
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,320
glycanate because there are so
many types of magnesium and you

570
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,800
can look, I mean you, you can
look online to see like all the

571
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,560
different types of magnesium and
what they're.

572
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520
That are amazing too, like and
you know these people there are

573
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,840
iodine groups on Facebook.
There are vitamin C groups.

574
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,280
There are so many.
And like when you really think

575
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
about it, like we're not all
going to live off of just

576
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,680
vitamin C or magnesium alone,
right?

577
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,560
So like be careful with those.
But like, yeah, if you, there

578
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,960
are graphics out there that have
like every magnesium and what

579
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,720
it's for.
So you take glyconate and when

580
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,440
do you take it?
So I take that one almost right

581
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,160
before I go to bed after away
from food because I want to take

582
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,960
it away from fats.
And so I've already stopped

583
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
eating for a couple of hours
before I take that one, but

584
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
that's specific to that
supplement.

585
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,240
The rest of my supplements I
take with food, generally with

586
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,520
milk because that's right.
That's that's I use.

587
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,560
I use magnesium sulfate and it's
through a cream and I take it.

588
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080
I also use it at night but it's
because it's like supposed to

589
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,960
induce sleep too.
And I put it on my and I put it

590
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,880
and it itches the skin.
So I have to put it on my feet

591
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040
and I have to, I put it on my
kids feet.

592
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,720
And the babies are that's so
good for babies because

593
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,640
especially breastfed babies,
they're getting whatever

594
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
nutrients we have and we're so
depleted as moms and we're

595
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680
probably not eating very well.
So like it's great for babies

596
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600
too.
And it's always been a cream and

597
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,960
I always have, you know, like
the really high quality Epsom

598
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,400
salt to put in my kids baths,
right?

599
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,160
And my babies baths because I,
you know, six months old, you're

600
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,600
not giving them a supplement.
So how are you getting it in

601
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,080
them?
You're putting it on their feet

602
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,240
or you're putting in the bath.
So yeah, it's about knowing who

603
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,120
it's for, what the purpose is,
like what the goal is.

604
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,640
And be very careful about like I
did say, like we learned from

605
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,000
people who know, but also be
careful with just saying, Oh

606
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440
yeah, it works for this person
down the street.

607
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400
So I'm going to go ahead and
start using it because just

608
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,800
because it works for them in
their vacuum, right?

609
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:56,240
In that vacuum of a dog or cat
or human, that specific genetic

610
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,600
makeup, it worked.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's

611
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,040
going to have the same effect on
somebody else.

612
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,680
And I, I see this with parenting
all the time and like ADHD, what

613
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,240
are, what omega-3 are you giving
and what beep complex are you

614
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,840
giving and all these things.
And I'm thinking to myself,

615
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
like, what if we just improved
the diet?

616
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Like what if we just removed
dyes from that child's food?

617
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,680
What if we just removed the
amount of sugar they're getting

618
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,640
everyday?
And like, I get that there's

619
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,360
like food deserts and like food
swamps really where it's just

620
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000
fast food and, and it's just
terrible.

621
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,400
And I'm not saying that all kids
are going to take to the

622
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,440
broccoli in the Brussels
sprouts, but instead of spending

623
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,000
the $50 on the B complex gummies
from whatever brand that it's

624
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
amazing and you're going to have
to subscribe and save just to

625
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
like get it in the budget.
And you're going to end up with

626
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
like a ton of it that nobody's
taking or whatever, right?

627
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,720
Or not seeing any results.
Maybe we just reduce the amount

628
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,440
of sugar candy that they're
eating.

629
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,280
And like, that's really when it
comes down to, like, supplements

630
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,520
are not a Band-Aid for bad
nutrition, not for anybody.

631
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,720
And I think you're the one who
says, like, you can really mess

632
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,440
up a diet with the wrong
supplement.

633
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Yeah, I think you can sometimes.
Can you give us an example of

634
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,400
what that would look like for a
dog or cat?

635
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Yeah.
Well, you can be giving your dog

636
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,200
or your cat a really amazing
high quality raw food diet or

637
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,880
fresh food diet, let's just say,
and be one of those, you know,

638
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,680
one of those type A's that are
feeding off of a spreadsheet if

639
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,520
you want it.
Like if you want to go all out

640
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,960
and say that like your dog's
diet is perfect.

641
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:01,400
And then you add a omega-3 oil
that has it's it's in a plastic

642
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,520
bottle that's a gallon size with
a pump on it and it's rancid.

643
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040
And.
It may or may not be the fish

644
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,120
that's on the packaging.
Yeah, I mean, that's an example,

645
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,920
but I think everything that we
have just been talking about in

646
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,000
the last, I don't know, 15
minutes or so is exact is also

647
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,920
exactly why it is so much better
to get your nutrients from your

648
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,640
diet because then you don't have
to worry about is this

649
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,120
synthetic?
Is this not synthetic?

650
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,280
How is it going to work with
this or that?

651
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,360
Should I take it with food?
Should I not take it with food?

652
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,640
Do I need to take it with fat?
Do I need to take it with like,

653
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,800
you don't have to worry about
all of those things because

654
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,680
you're getting it from nature,
you're getting it in your diet.

655
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,360
So I'm not, I'm not there.
I'm not, I'm not going to lie,

656
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,000
like me personally, my dog and
my cats are closer to that than

657
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,120
I am for sure.
I'm trying.

658
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Well, I mean, it's much easier
to do for a dog and cat.

659
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,320
I mean, as a parent to two
children who like food

660
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,800
completely differently, Like my
daughter is a big carnivore.

661
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,760
You give them chicken and
potatoes and my son is eating

662
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
the potatoes 1st and my
daughter's eating the chicken

663
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,480
first.
Like that's just who they are.

664
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840
They're different.
And I always say, like with our

665
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,880
pets, it's just like, you put it
in the bowl and if it's fresh,

666
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,640
they're going to eat it.
And I know that there's like

667
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,880
you've even recently shared,
like transitioning your cat to

668
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,200
like a fresh diet.
It's not always easy.

669
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,480
It's not always like for, you
know, straightforward, but it

670
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,800
can be done.
And once you do that once, let's

671
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,360
say that they've embraced the
diet, they can't open the

672
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,680
fridge, they can't order
DoorDash.

673
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:51,200
Like they're, they're the
easiest ones to control.

674
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,120
So like when it comes to our
pets, we really have the most

675
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,960
control, assuming they're indoor
cats and obviously indoor pets

676
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,400
that we take care of, dogs and
cats that we share our lives

677
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,600
with.
They're not going to get any

678
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,720
kind of exposure that you're not
aware of or that you're not in

679
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080
somewhat somewhat in control of.
Obviously off gassing our stuff

680
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:19,840
is is kind of out of our control
but but they're not going to

681
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,800
open the bag of chips like you
are on like a stressed out day

682
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,120
in front of the TV.
Yeah, they might want to.

683
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,640
They might be.
They'll look at you so you can

684
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,480
share, but you don't have.
You don't have to Let's see,

685
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,520
there are some more, OK.
Millie's raw life says.

686
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,400
What Whole Foods sources do you
recommend for hip and joint

687
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
support?
I, I really go with like feeds

688
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:50,560
like so raw meaty bones, really
like collagen Rich Bone Broth

689
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,440
others, you know, any, any
sources of collagen and contour

690
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
and green lip muscles are good
for that.

691
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,400
So I mean, there's a lot that
that you can do there.

692
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Yeah, the like Nike feeds like
for those who aren't aware,

693
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680
which again, our audience, a lot
of them are.

694
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,920
But basically if you have liver
issues taking eating liver, if

695
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:24,440
you have, I don't know, kidney
issues, eating kidney like those

696
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,400
are.
I mean, now that I think about

697
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,240
it, I had never thought my
grandmother is in chronic kidney

698
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,680
failure.
I mean, she's lived with us for

699
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,720
years and I'm like, I've never
thought about giving her a

700
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:37,120
kidney supplement.
But yeah, like that, that is the

701
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,760
idea is that when we eat that it
nourishes that particular organ.

702
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,160
So that's just what like eating
like means.

703
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,480
But it I and it really is very,
it makes a lot of sense.

704
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,960
It does.
It really does, OK, Diane says.

705
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,240
What do you know about taking
collagen?

706
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:03,080
I heard it's a waste of money.
You mean the beauty collagen?

707
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
I know I take collagen.
Talking about, yeah.

708
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Yeah, I take collagen.
I mean, for my pets, they're

709
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:16,480
getting it through like, you
know, the bone and all the

710
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
connective tissue and all of
like they're they're getting it

711
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,760
in their food.
I don't eat that.

712
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,440
I don't eat raw bones.
I don't think we can as humans

713
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,120
eat raw bones.
I.

714
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,760
Don't like your teeth?
Exactly.

715
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,440
It's a very nice day here.
It's like 80°, so everybody's

716
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:40,440
outside.
So, but yeah, I, I do personally

717
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,560
take collagen, but there are a
lot of bad collagens on the

718
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,480
market because there are lots of
different, there's like college

719
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
type 1, type 2 type, like all
the different types.

720
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:54,320
And, but even if you get all of
that right, then sourcing is an

721
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,920
issue because, you know, where
are they getting the collagen

722
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,080
from and is it a clean source?
And so there's a lot, there's a

723
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
lot that goes into.
That eat your collagen by just

724
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,000
eating the proteins like the
fish and the beef.

725
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,480
And that's a really great way to
get your collagen just from food

726
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,760
because we're, we're, we can
have bone broth too, you know

727
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,200
what I mean?
Like we can have those I and

728
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,400
like in Spain, it's very common
to eat like just like a big bowl

729
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,720
of fisherman's Stew, right?
And it's just like all the fish

730
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,440
in the bones in the stuff.
And they basically cook, cook,

731
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
cook, cook, cook, strain out all
that stuff.

732
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,200
And then you just eat the broth.
And like that's where we get the

733
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,400
majority of our in the
Mediterranean diet, you're

734
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,600
getting all of that.
Why?

735
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,840
Because you're eating from the
land, you're eating from the

736
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,040
sea, you're eating what is
available to you in nature.

737
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,480
And so for me, it's like, yes, I
will supplement some stuff.

738
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Yes, I'll use some great stuff,
but I try to just eat a well

739
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,600
balanced diet so that I can and
I I don't know, like I just feel

740
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,160
like if we if we spend all our
money on supplements, do we have

741
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,560
any money left for the grocery
bill or, or are we just, you

742
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,640
know.
Yeah.

743
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960
That's my only concern with
collagen, yeah.

744
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,040
I personally, I take it, but I.
And I do take peptides because

745
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,960
that's really like where the
conversation gets to.

746
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040
So like so deep which, what do
you take?

747
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Which one is good?
Right, I have not.

748
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
I, I recently started looking
into it because doctor Katie

749
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:38,160
Woodley is really, really big
into BPC 157, I believe, which

750
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,360
she started running training for
marathon.

751
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,520
So that makes sense.
Like you're so, you know, dogs

752
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,360
that have like a cruciate tear
or something that makes a whole

753
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,200
lot of sense to use peptides
like that.

754
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,360
KKMON 31.
What do you recommend for doggy

755
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,680
dementia?
Lots of things.

756
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Mushrooms.
Yep, so fresh food, diet, lots

757
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,560
of Omega threes, DHAEPA.
We did in fact, well, I

758
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,720
recently, a couple months ago,
maybe it was December, had a

759
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:22,400
podcast with Judah from Nordic
Naturals, which was like a

760
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,200
master class on omegas.
I recently did a live with Cara

761
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840
from Rawpaw Adventures where we
talked about seed oils and

762
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,640
omegas, fish oils.
So that is it's, it's already

763
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
live on her podcast feed.
It's going to go live on my

764
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,240
podcast feed tomorrow.
So omegas are huge, huge DHA and

765
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,560
EPA for brain health.
And then mushrooms like Isabel

766
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,320
said, especially lion's mane,
that again, it's a mushroom.

767
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,600
But if we go back to like feeds
like lion's mane looks like a

768
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,720
brain.
Yeah.

769
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
So.
And you want the extract, you

770
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,040
don't want necessarily the
powder cuz that'll take you'll

771
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,080
need so much of the powder
sometimes.

772
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,320
So then extract is really what I
found helped tighten a lot in

773
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,080
this final.
Yeah, I and somebody that we

774
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,400
both know, I think has been
dealing with Sundowners and her

775
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,000
dog and she actually is lying.
Lions made mushrooms and making

776
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
a tea out of it.
And so she's giving the tea and

777
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,040
she's giving the cooked lions
made from the.

778
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,480
So it's like a it's, it's been
doing really, really well.

779
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Kind of like concentrated in the
tea.

780
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,720
One thing I will say about
Omegas, and that is just because

781
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,480
we're talking about supplements,
is that I remember in at Super

782
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Zoo last year, I met the founder
of Austin and Kat, Kat

783
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Donatello.
And just like in chatting with

784
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,520
her, she was showing me her line
of, of oils of omegas.

785
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,240
And just in chatting, she said
there was, you know, this really

786
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:06,280
great brand that everybody was
using and a third party tested

787
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,840
the DN like what what fish it
would have come from.

788
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,200
And not one of the species that
was mentioned on the label was

789
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:20,600
actually in that sample.
So, you know, that's why it's so

790
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,000
important to go with like Nordic
Naturals.

791
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,360
I've been taking for years.
My kids have taken, my mom's

792
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560
taken, my grandmother's taken.
Like they, they make obviously

793
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,680
pet omegas too.
They're a renowned brand with a

794
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,800
lot of controls.
And they're just that.

795
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,480
That's like their claim to
theme.

796
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,840
They started in the human
market, then went to pets.

797
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,360
But like sometimes when you go
to PetSmart, you just like like

798
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160
what you described, you find
this big bottle with a pump.

799
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160
It's so easy.
It smells like fish.

800
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,760
So you're like, yay.
But not all fish oil is created

801
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,320
equal.
Obviously fish is not created

802
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560
equal.
Like I don't eat farmed fish.

803
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Personally, I try to avoid it.
It just, to me, it's just and

804
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
and and and now the more
polluted our oceans get, the

805
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,280
less I even want to eat fish in
general.

806
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,080
And the more I know about fish
and how we handle sushi, for

807
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,960
example, or has to be like
frozen for however long just to

808
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,560
kill all the parasites in it.
I the less I kind of want to eat

809
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,760
fish.
So fish is something omegas from

810
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,640
fish is something you really
need to be careful with because

811
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:31,240
otherwise you're not getting
what is even on the label if

812
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,000
you're not careful.
So none because the supplement

813
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:41,440
market is not really regulated
as pharmaceuticals are said to

814
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,760
be the like.
That's why it says the FDA has

815
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,840
not evaluated the claims made on
this bottle, right?

816
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,960
When you buy any supplement, it
says it everywhere, like the FDA

817
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,000
is not.
And because there's no

818
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,360
regulation, you don't really
know what you're getting unless

819
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,360
you really look closer.
Yeah.

820
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,280
And obviously with pets it's
even less so.

821
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,320
Yes, Diane is asking if she can
ask a question not related to

822
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,720
supplements.
You can.

823
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,920
And then K Mon 31 says RMAO's OK
if my doggie with dementia has

824
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:24,720
high liver enzymes.
Generally speaking, yes, what

825
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,960
Isabel was just talking about,
you want to make sure what

826
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,760
they're claiming is in the
product is in the product.

827
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,080
But when we're thinking about
the liver, we also want to make

828
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,920
sure that the things that
shouldn't be in the product are

829
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,760
not so that heavy metals, micro
plastics, things like that.

830
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:49,120
They're it's an issue with any
marine life because we have just

831
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:57,360
polluted the oceans so badly
that there isn't I, I, I don't

832
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:04,760
think there's a human or animal
maybe on Earth that doesn't have

833
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,160
microplastics in their body, in
their brain.

834
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
And they're like, it's, it's
ubiquitous.

835
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Is that the word I'm looking for
at this point?

836
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,440
But heavy metals are certainly a
concern, especially with larger

837
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,080
fish.
So you want a company that is

838
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,520
third party tested for quality
and purity, but also for what's

839
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,800
not in there that shouldn't be
there, that they're showing that

840
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,000
they're, you know, the levels
are below if it's even possible

841
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,680
anymore.
There's an issue right now with

842
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,840
like kelp.
I don't even know if if we can

843
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:49,080
get kelp at all on this planet
that is below the, you know,

844
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,560
maximum levels that are
considered safe.

845
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,200
How do you feel about Aquiflower
Omega oils which is like the

846
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,240
plant based alternative to the
salmon and all that oil?

847
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,560
I I haven't heard of that.
I mean I.

848
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,400
Know there's like.
It's been used a lot in horses.

849
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Wagwell, I, I met them at Super
Zoo and it basically is I, I

850
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,120
think cat and Austin and cat has
another one that's very much

851
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,720
plant based as well.
So there are options for plant

852
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,920
based ones for those that are
like scared to do the whole

853
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,800
marine life, which I don't
blame.

854
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:42,480
You well, well you can get, you
can get Ala from plants, but you

855
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,520
can't get DHA and EPA from
plants.

856
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,880
So.
She has the marine algae oil.

857
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Algae.
Algae.

858
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,480
I thought you said AHI.
Yes, algae oil.

859
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,480
They're 2.
Different things.

860
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Ahi flour.
Ahi, OK, I'm like, what is that?

861
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,640
I don't know.
What algae?

862
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,720
Flour.
OK so I'll send you a link.

863
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:05,160
So AHI flour is used in the
Inhumans and it's used in horses

864
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,480
from what I remember them
telling me, but it had not been

865
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:14,800
brought to the pet market yet.
And then Cat, Austin and Cat has

866
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,360
a marine algae oil and I trust
their process so much.

867
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,240
It is vegan, plant friendly
alternative to traditional fish

868
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:30,400
oils because obviously using up
the fish for any purpose is now

869
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,040
concerning for so many reasons,
just our ecosystem in general.

870
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:43,040
So there are this Austin and Cat
has microalgae plankton.

871
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:54,040
I'm sorry, it replaces
microalgae. the IT, it brings

872
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,640
the microalgae straight to the
pets.

873
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,720
Just bringing the omegas from
there instead of bringing any

874
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,080
plankton, wild fish, fisheries,
fish oil and all that, which is

875
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,360
what you get when you have to do
a fish oil.

876
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Like there's just so much
environmental strain when you

877
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,400
just get a fish oil.
Yeah.

878
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,360
OK.
So I eat flour it, it contains

879
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,520
steridonic acid, which so the
problem with most plant based

880
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,920
omegas like flaxseed, chia seed,
things like that is that the

881
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,840
Ala, the body has to convert Ala
into EPA and DHA.

882
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,880
And you're only getting like
between 1 and 10% can actually

883
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:41,160
convert into EPA and DHA.
So the claim with Ahiflower is

884
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:47,200
that the steridonic acid is 4
times more efficiently converted

885
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,440
than Ala.
So that would be 4 to 40% if

886
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,200
it's four times.
So you're still going to have to

887
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,800
take more than twice the amount
to get the same levels of EPA

888
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,160
and DHA.
But I mean, I guess you do what

889
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,760
you got to do, right?
And but then again, you're

890
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,360
dealing with an oil, which is a
fat.

891
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,920
And so if your animal isn't
tolerant of fats, then that's

892
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,960
still, that's not going to work.
But that's interesting.

893
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,240
It's interesting.
Yeah, Ahi flowers it's it's a

894
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,960
it's from a flower that was that
in the UK like it's like a

895
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,240
flower flower and it's not super
common, which is why it's

896
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600
recently been brought into the
to the pet market.

897
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,120
It's it's available to humans,
but I've never heard it until I

898
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:47,000
met with with Wagwell last year.
They were like, this is our Ahi

899
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,160
flower on like sounds beautiful.
What is it?

900
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:57,520
So, yeah, just remember that
there are other options for, for

901
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,720
those that are like really
concerned about fish, but mostly

902
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,960
I'm not.
I, I give my kids omegas from

903
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:12,680
like fish, fish sources, as much
as I hate, you know, that

904
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,520
because they won't eat fish.
I, I could, I could do up some

905
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,000
clod right now.
Really yummy.

906
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,320
And they're looking at it like
they eat shrimp, but they won't

907
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,440
eat any other fish really.
And so we try to balance what we

908
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,120
eat versus what we, you know,
what we supplement in that

909
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,840
sense.
But there are people who I know,

910
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880
like dogs and cats, should not
be vegan.

911
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,280
I am not saying that that is OK,
But if you want to find

912
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,400
something vegan to supplement,
there are options for you.

913
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:50,720
So just keep that in mind.
Diane says her 2 cats she thinks

914
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,120
has earmites.
I'm so sorry earmites.

915
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,200
I I think you should be able to
get the two crazy cat ladies

916
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,600
products.
I mean, obviously there's

917
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,040
shipping time, but feline?
Essential Diane in the UK.

918
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Yeah.
So they're shipping.

919
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,400
I I think, I think they can ship
there.

920
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,440
I think so, I'm pretty sure.
I'm sure that if if you were to

921
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
contact them, they'd let you
know if they can even.

922
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,640
Oh yeah.
They can do it.

923
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Yeah.
So for the ears I think is

924
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Oxycat.
Oxycats for everything.

925
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,920
I know I use oxycat for
everything.

926
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Too my cats on oxycat right now
because he just had his his

927
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,800
rabies shot and I'm like we need
we need the oxycat immediately

928
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,480
and I've taken oxycat myself
when I feel.

929
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Feeling under the weather?
So.

930
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Same.
That's a good thing to have on

931
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,440
hand.
That's you see that's like to

932
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,840
me, that's a supplement that
like I, I will always have on

933
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,680
hand and it is not something we
give every day, but that's one

934
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,040
that you have on hand.
And another supplement that I do

935
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,880
a lot and I don't do it
constantly is the porcine plasma

936
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,240
from Winpro Pet.
I like it for my older dog, the

937
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,480
2nd that I took him off of it, I
could see the difference because

938
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:19,280
I, I hadn't like refilled right?
Like my subscription, like I'd

939
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,240
run out and my subscription was
like 3 days passed and even my

940
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,880
husband was like, Oh my gosh,
like I can see the difference.

941
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,520
So those are the moments where
you say OK, like maybe this 15

942
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,760
year old dog needs to live on
this for the rest of his life

943
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,480
and it's OK.
There's a filler too.

944
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Like it just seems to help.
And the porcine plasma also came

945
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,320
from like the horse industry.
A lot of the stuff we get is

946
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,520
like, you know, horses are so
abused, their bodies are so

947
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,000
abused and they're not going to
be adventurous eaters, right

948
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,680
horses.
So you supplement, they

949
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,880
supplement a lot for them.
And so that that porcine plasma

950
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,240
started in the horse racing
industry, then it went into

951
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,320
agility, dog agility, and now
it's just like available to the

952
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,960
general public for different
things.

953
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,400
And they say they mix different
supplements, herbals and things.

954
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,760
With the porcine plasma
specifically for each chronic

955
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,400
situation that your dog might
have.

956
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,880
So and now they have like some
treats for cats.

957
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,960
It's supposed to be dental
treats, but my cat likes them so

958
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,880
I give them to him.
But they have like a calming

959
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,600
they have a joint, they have an
allergy, one that I think is

960
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,200
their best seller.
So it's worth a shot, you know,

961
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,880
But again, like these
supplements could just be a

962
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Band-Aid for tighten.
It was the Band-Aid of age.

963
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,760
We're just putting a Band-Aid on
age and for somebody or a dog

964
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,320
with allergies, it could just be
gut health that you're putting a

965
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,080
Band-Aid on right.
So I just, you have experts at

966
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,920
your fingertips.
Anytime somebody that I know

967
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,560
reaches out to me and it's like,
oh, what supplement do you

968
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,480
recommend for this and that I'm
like, I recommend Jessica Fisher

969
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,200
reset and Cara of raw POD
ventures and I recommend you

970
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,720
talk to them so that you can
figure out what is actually

971
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,800
wrong.
And if the supplements going to

972
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
help you, then they will be the
ones who tell you which

973
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,880
supplement that'll be.
Because when you throw a million

974
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,520
supplements at something, you
could end up spending more than

975
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,080
the consultation would have cost
you to talk to these experts who

976
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,320
are going to talk walk you
through a list of what your pets

977
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,880
getting every single day and
what you could eliminate that

978
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,760
might solve the problem.
So just my shout out to the

979
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,640
experts and the people who you
can trust.

980
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,040
And like there are a lot of
people with different

981
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,120
backgrounds and different
priorities.

982
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,480
And obviously, I know Jessica,
she's my girl, so I'm going to

983
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,760
always recommend her.
And then obviously Cara too, I

984
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,520
trust her implicitly, so I'm
going to recommend them.

985
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,640
But find somebody that you like,
that resonates with you and what

986
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,400
you believe.
And before going and just

987
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,480
throwing supplements in a bowl,
talk to somebody.

988
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Talk to somebody who's
knowledgeable.

989
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,640
And your vet may not be that
person.

990
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,440
So yeah, I have to say that.
Yeah, I know it.

991
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:22,320
I I hate so much when like I see
people posting like I happened

992
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,920
to I I went to college with this
girl and she's been posting on

993
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,760
Facebook.
I I recently removed Facebook

994
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,080
from my life, but while I was
still on Facebook.

995
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Facebook.
I know everybody.

996
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,160
'S fighting there.
So we would like to have nice.

997
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Conversations on Instagram,
Facebook, people are fighting.

998
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,280
I mean, I'm live on Facebook
right now, but people are

999
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,760
fighting too much over there
right now.

1000
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,520
I have to take a break.
Yeah, but I mean, she's like her

1001
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,200
dog has very bad food
sensitivities and allergies and

1002
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,840
she's like trying all of these
different foods on top of the

1003
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,800
kibble.
And like, I've, I've commented

1004
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,200
multiple times and I'm like, I
could help you with this and you

1005
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,080
know, it's fine.
Like people, the thing that

1006
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,480
bothers me with that is like,
people try so many things that

1007
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,920
by the time they get to me, our
options are so limited because

1008
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,720
when you have a dog with food
sensitivities, you're creating

1009
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,080
more and more and more
sensitivities to everything that

1010
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,720
you're trying with them.
So by the time they come to me,

1011
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,600
it's like I'm really having to
dig deep trying to find anything

1012
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,280
that we can use for these.
I mean, this is just my my life

1013
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,000
at this point.
Well, also, I feel like people

1014
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,480
will get mad at the Band-Aid and
they won't try it again.

1015
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,400
They'll be like, oh, that was
terrible.

1016
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,360
And it's like, no, but you were
also doing this and this and

1017
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,000
this during that test.
So that test doesn't doesn't

1018
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,840
really, it's not a valid
experience of what it would be

1019
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,640
like now that we've gotten other
things under control.

1020
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Right.
And I feel like I've seen that

1021
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,240
with moms too, like where it's
like my my kids eczema was made

1022
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,800
worse by this cream.
And I'm like, well, maybe it was

1023
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,400
like the allergen you ate the
night before.

1024
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,200
Yeah.
That, I believe, made it worse.

1025
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,480
Not the cream, but now the
cream's the the culprit, right?

1026
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,760
So yeah, it's tough.
And, and I, I do want to also

1027
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,960
say, and this isn't true with
every supplement that that we

1028
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,760
talk about because something for
instance, like the Oxycat from

1029
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Feline Essentials works really
well.

1030
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,040
It works really quickly.
But generally speaking, when we

1031
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,280
are looking at nature, when like
if we're looking at herbs that

1032
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,080
we're adding in or because I
again somebody today was, I had

1033
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,520
recommended an herbal supplement
and she's like, I gave it one

1034
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,920
time and I didn't see a result.
Yeah, we need to give this for

1035
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,960
four to six weeks and see how
like and and this isn't.

1036
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,480
Like the quantity, like you
said, like I remember saying

1037
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,320
that same thing, just one of my
staff members who had a ton of

1038
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,000
inflammation in her knees.
And I was like, I hear that

1039
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,120
turmeric's really good for that.
And just like I tried it.

1040
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,840
But did you try the one from,
from like CVS that barely has

1041
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,880
any turmeric?
That may or may not be turmeric?

1042
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,040
Because if that's what you
tried, then you didn't give it a

1043
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,600
try.
As far as I'm concerned, you did

1044
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,760
it.
Did you make golden paste at

1045
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,200
home from the highest quality
turmeric that you could find?

1046
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,840
No.
OK, Then you didn't try

1047
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,800
turmeric.
Right, yes, but and, and I don't

1048
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,920
say this to like blame anybody
or shame anybody.

1049
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,160
It's not your fault.
It's what you've been

1050
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,400
conditioned to believe by our
sick care system and our

1051
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,440
Pharmaceutical industry that you
should be able to take a pill

1052
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,440
and it's going to work overnight
like magic.

1053
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:45,200
That is not the reality.
And when something does air

1054
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:52,400
quote work like that, it is not
without bajillion risks and side

1055
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,960
effects, right?
Like when we look at Nat, when

1056
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,240
we look at nature, it's not
going to change overnight.

1057
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,880
So that's please be aware.
Something will change overnight,

1058
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,000
maybe 24 to 48 hours is when you
eliminate something that's

1059
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,080
making you sick, like that's the
only and like it's eliminating,

1060
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,480
not adding.
Right, you know what I mean.

1061
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,840
Like I remember when I first
gave up dairy, I was overdoing

1062
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,000
dairy.
I was vegetarian.

1063
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,440
I was just dairy, dairy, dairy,
dairy, dairy.

1064
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,160
And I gave it up.
And like that first week, I was

1065
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,080
waking up at like 5:00 AM super
refreshed because what did I do?

1066
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,920
I got, I got rid of all the
stuff that was impeding me from

1067
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,160
sleeping well because my airway
was all congested and all that.

1068
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,160
After a while, I didn't wake up
at 5:00 AM anymore.

1069
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,240
I was still wasn't, you know,
eating dairy or anything.

1070
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,160
But it does like take time to
for your body to adjust to

1071
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,400
things.
And if something is going to be

1072
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,360
immediate, it's going to be an
elimination diet because you're

1073
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,000
basically like living off
something that five and what 5

1074
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520
things.
And then you're going to feel

1075
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,480
great because you're not
ingesting any allergens.

1076
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,080
But yeah, that's something that
we need to keep in mind that

1077
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,360
none of this is none of this is
a magic pill, not for humans,

1078
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,120
not for our pets.
Just because somebody gives you

1079
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,040
a pill does not mean their
separation anxiety goes away

1080
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:23,680
their ADHD for kids, their anger
and rage does not go away

1081
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,640
because you gave them magnesium
like.

1082
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,800
We.
Put a little too much stock into

1083
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,120
these supplements so for nobody.
And again, that's where

1084
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:38,200
eliminating can actually give
you more benefit, eliminating

1085
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,840
the sugars, eliminating the
dyes, eliminating even the

1086
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,840
gluten sometimes you know,
because of the glyphosate.

1087
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Like there's look at.
Look at what you can remove

1088
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:54,080
before you start adding in more.
Yes, yes, absolutely.

1089
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,480
And if you want to remove, if
you want to add stuff, then

1090
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,360
before you do that, just talk to
somebody who can look at their

1091
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:05,840
whole diet lifestyle properly
and give you a good idea.

1092
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,040
And I, I love vets.
So I'm not, I'm going to go back

1093
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,480
to what I said.
I'm not your vet.

1094
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Most vets don't have the time to
really invest in educating

1095
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,960
themselves on these eliminations
and things like that, unless

1096
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,160
maybe their specialty is like an
allergy situation.

1097
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,560
But very few of them assess
their specialized in gut health.

1098
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,600
They're really not going to have
the knowledge and they're not

1099
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,040
going to have the time or the
ability to sit down and like

1100
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,960
make a list of all your feeding
your pet and what might be a

1101
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,359
problem.
My vet is very thorough.

1102
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,600
She's wonderful.
Like when when my husband went

1103
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,439
and took my dog and said that he
had pain, she wanted to know

1104
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,279
exactly what supplement that
was.

1105
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,800
And you know, it was fine.
She cleared it, but she had

1106
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,120
never heard of it.
You know what I mean?

1107
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,560
Like she, she wasn't, she
doesn't stock that she's not,

1108
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,880
She has, you know, she has
someone, one type of probiotic,

1109
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,399
the one made by Purina in her
office.

1110
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,319
You know, she has maybe one more
nutraceutical from for liver

1111
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,960
health that you can find, but
that's it.

1112
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,160
Like their, their, their timing
and their, the scope is, is

1113
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,359
beyond what they can do.
So not, no hate on

1114
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:22,880
veterinarians.
It's just not necessarily like

1115
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,640
part of what they can offer.
They're like every time I go to

1116
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,000
a pediatrician, a paediatrician
and we need something else, they

1117
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,520
send me to either a behavioral
health specialist or a nutrition

1118
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,680
specialist or a sleep
specialist, right?

1119
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Because they can only do so
much.

1120
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,200
And it's the same with our
veterinarians, their primary

1121
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,319
care and these, this is a
specialization, diet is a

1122
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:47,479
specialization.
It.

1123
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,200
Yeah, it really is.
It really, really is.

1124
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,120
All right, well, we're over on
our time this week.

1125
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,960
Next week is.
Oh, we're going to do

1126
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,680
greenwashing.
Next week is greenwashing on

1127
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,600
Valentine's Day week.
Valentine's Day week, we're

1128
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,560
talking about greenwashing.
So join us on Monday the 10th at

1129
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,720
3:00 PM Mountain Standard Time.
That's 5:00 PM Eastern.

1130
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,880
And we will talk about
greenwashing, which I think is a

1131
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,000
really good segue for this
because there's a lot of label

1132
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,480
reading that means like all of
us need to do it.

1133
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,360
For everything, for sure
there's, there's a lot there's.

1134
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:31,720
A lot.
All right.

1135
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,520
Thank you guys for joining us.
We'll see you next week.

1136
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,800
All right.
Bye, guys.

1137
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:35,880
Bye.