THIS Could Solve Your Dogs' Eating Issues: Mine Pet Platter | IG Live

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Well, hello, hello, hello.
How are we doing today?

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Instagram trying to I thought I
was going to use my microphone

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and Nope, if I use my
microphone, then I can't hear

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anything.
And since Carol is joining us

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today from my pet flatter Hello,
hello.

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OK, I'm going to invite you.
It works.

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Instagram was working great
yesterday so I have all my

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fingers and toes crossed.
Hello.

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Hello.
How are you?

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Can you hear me?
I can.

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Yes, ma'am.
My finger coming across or no?

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Yeah, I can see you.
OK, we did it.

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We did.
I know.

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I'm so excited.
I last week Instagram was giving

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me so many problems, but so far
this week I'm doing good.

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So I'm going to like knock on
all the wood and cross all the

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fingers.
So I guess I should press share

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video, right?
Should press.

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I don't think you have to do
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It just says share this live
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watch too.
Oh, I mean you can if you I

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don't think that will kick you
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So excited to have you guys join
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This is going to be so fun.
I first of all, Carol, you are

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the creator of the mine pet
platter and I happen to own five

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of them.
So I have one right here, fuel

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color.
I, I want, I want you to tell

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people a little bit.
Thank you so much for letting us

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know Paleo pet goods.
Oh, you're in Texas too.

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I'm in Texas.
So the mine pet platter is it

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was a long time in making the
research that you and your

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husband, your your late husband
did on this, which is so

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incredibly fascinating to me.
I was literally just thinking

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before I hit live, I was like,
this is totally something that I

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would expect to hear and learn
about on like the Joe Rogan

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podcast.
I'd love to go with my daughters

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in Austin, so maybe I'll get
that set up.

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So how did you What?
What the research you were doing

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kind of led you down this path.
So tell me a little bit about.

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That well, the inspiration, like
most ideas come from from

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personal experience and we had a
little Havanese named Pip, who

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was 14 lbs.
But packed a punch.

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He had really good attitude and
so she used to eat from and and

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she would eat her meals so fast
in probably under a minute,

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maybe a minute and 15 seconds.
And then she would let most

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horrendous belt, belt.
But think of 500 LB football

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player.
I couldn't have people over for

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dinner because they would have
tears string down there.

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That is just it was just so
extreme.

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So one day I was making her
chicken breasts and there were

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scraps and juices left on the
cutting board.

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And my daughter said, Mom, why
don't you get those tip?

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So I put it down.
I put it down for and for the

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next 15 minutes, my daughter and
I sat there going, this isn't

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our little Pip.
What happened to her?

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She was moving around, she was
sniffing and it took her about

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1520 minutes and she looked up
at me like, mom, this is the

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best thing that you could have
done for me.

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So, So when my husband came
home, I had the most amazing

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thing happened.
He said Eureka.

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So my background was in
psychology and I for a very in

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the food industry, understanding
why people made the food

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selection they did and what
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eating habits.
And so I started down a journey

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of saying, you know what?
The closest living relative to

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our dogs is the Gray wolf.
Let's get into these instinctive

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feeding behaviors.
Let's see what's operating

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there.
So a whole new world emerged for

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us.
We were talking to wildlife

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specialists.
I volunteer at zoo.

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I have observed so many videos
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deconstructing it.
And what I realized is we're

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really not appreciating the wolf
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And even though we'd like to
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they are still very instinctive
creatures and they just took an

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evolution from the wolf in the
wild feeding off carcasses

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through domestication where they
came closer to settlements and

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were scatter fed to the point
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So we're the ones that change
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In college, we took them from a
carcass all the way to a bowl,

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and through the work that we did
and studying how animals

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actually feed, we sort of put
them in a difficult position

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because eating from a bowl is
one of the most challenging

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things.
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Oh goodness.
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There you.
Are so I just find this

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absolutely fascinating from the
idea of, you know, a wolf eating

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off of a carcass and you know, a
wolf, a coyote.

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I felt like there are so many
animals that eat this way.

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Obviously wolves being the
closest relatives to our dogs,

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but even for our cats, like
thinking about how lions and

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tigers.
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closest to to our domestic cat
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cats.
And even some animals, I don't

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remember exactly which ones.
I don't remember if it's a tiger

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or a Jaguar.
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and Wildcat about 30,000 years
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That's the closest ancestor.
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actually take their food, their
prey like up into trees.

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When we think of on the feline
side, which kind of gives us a

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little bit of insight as to why
so many of our cats like to eat

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up.
Hi, I think, but so before I

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learned about the mind Pet
platter, which was 2:00-ish a

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little over two years ago, I
think when I met you at Super

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Zoo for the first time, I, I did
feed out of bowls sometimes, but

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I had just recently transitioned
to feeding off of like wooden

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cutting boards.
So that's what I had been doing

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for like a little while when I
met you and you were telling me

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because I did have you on the
podcast, but it was like forever

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ago.
Little things like this, like

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licky mats and different like
this is actually harmful to

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their noses.
Can you tell me a little bit

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about like why that is?
Because the whole point of the

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pet platter was to look at
feeding from a dog's

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perspective, because everything
that's sort of available in the

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market these days is designed
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So what you just showed is one
of those type man.

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And what happens with those is
it's designed to blow your pets

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feeding by making sure the food
gets caught in corners and

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ridges and everything else.
Well, here's the problem.

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Dogs as well as cats see the
world through their noses.

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They have over 100 million cent
sites.

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So when you're feeding from a
lick type man, they're smelling

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the food, but they can't get it
up because it's not designed for

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them to get to the food, which
is why everything pep platter is

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designed to go downward.
So is designed to go downward.

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I, I apologize, is designed
downward, so there's no

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frustration with that at all.
So you have to take into

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consideration if they're
smelling the food and then they

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can't get to it, the tongues
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This highly repetitive licking
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compulsive behavior and then can
even lead to aggressive

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behavior.
So I've heard from a lot of pet

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parents who have reported back
that they've actually they had

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to take the leg mat away because
the animal is trying to tear it

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apart because they can't get to
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So what are they actually do to
deconstruct it to get to that

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food, which is very instinctive
behavior.

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The same thing with the the slow
feeders that have projectiles

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coming out.
The problem with that is it hits

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into their noses.
This is for both cats and dogs.

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And when you hit into the
animal's nose, they have mucous

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membrane on the inside of their
nasal cavity, and that begins to

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swell.
And if food actually gets caught

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up there trying to work around
to get the food, it actually

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dries the nasal cavity out.
And then they can't smell.

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And if they can't smell, they
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know what's in front of them.
So it's another case in point.

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Somebody came up with the idea.
Well, let's just put a

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projectile there.
You know, it's like us sitting

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at our dinner table and lo and
behold, if somebody was sitting

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there with a spoon hitting us in
the face, I don't think we'd be

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very happy about that either.
Very true, very true.

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I did want to go through a
couple of these comments.

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So Paleo Pet Goods is saying
they need to order some more

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platters.
Wendy 7051 loves your platters

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and was also asking about so and
I wanted to get to this, but

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we'll just go ahead and talk
about it.

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The the materials that you're
using to create these platters

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is very different.
Because I know for those of us

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like myself who try to be very
aware of the products we're

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bringing into our home, I try to
minimize plastics for various

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reasons.
One of which that Wendy brought

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up is that it can, you know,
it's porous.

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So it's like absorbing all of
the toxins, the chemicals from

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any cleaning products that we're
using on it.

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So I know you, you, you don't,
this is not plastic.

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So do you want to explain that a
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It's a cellulose fiber composite
which is actually non porous.

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So especially if you feed raw,
you don't have to worry about

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that going in at all.
And the cellulose fiber is

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sustainable.
So we use trees and when pine

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trees are cut down, we replant 5
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So get into sustainable forestry
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But another thing we do is third
party independent to ensure that

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it is absolutely non-toxic and
there are no chemicals.

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One of the things that we
learned a lot about and here's

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another benefit of our product,
why our product is more

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expensive, is it's 100% USA, all
materials, all manufacturing or

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manufacturing is in Northwest
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Everybody who manufacturers the
product actually uses it.

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They're my second family.
But the reason for that is so

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many different countries and
manufacturers are coming in

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right now and they're saying,
well, for example, a lot of

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balls are now being manufactured
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I don't think people realize
that currently about 65 to 70%

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of their stainless steel comes
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And that stain, that steel can
be from toxic places, nuclear

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processing, all those sorts of
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So while you may think oh India
and it's not China, the sourcing

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of materials is so so critical
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I have a chemist friend who does
analysis and was working on a

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project at a bunch of different
stainless steel bowls in from

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China.
Over 60% of them were

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radioactive.
So it's not to panic people, but

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it's just to say sourcing of
material be a product day that's

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more expensive.
It's really probably because the

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sourcing of the material is in
the is in the US and it it just

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a lot more and manufacturing.
I could manufacture for 1/4 of

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the cost if I did this in China.
So my husband and I always

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believe we've asked for our pads
and people are spending so much

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money on food.
You want to make sure that the

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way you're serving is as well.
So that's just a little

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background.
Oh, yeah, I know.

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I mean, I think that's a lot of
that is so important.

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And I see Doctor Kosher joined
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Do you use the Mind Pat platter,
Dr. Kosher?

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I'd love to know.
And there were so many things

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that you brought up there.
I get so many e-mail

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solicitations for, you know,
promote our product, promote our

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product, promote our product.
And I have never, ever, ever

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said yes to any stainless steel
product because nine times out

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of 10, it is a company in China.
But I know that like there is so

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much I don't know about
stainless steel.

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I tend to not even use it with
my pets.

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I use not that it you know, if
you have a good quality

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stainless steel food grade it
made in the USA, you know that

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that's wonderful and you know,
hygienic and all the things.

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But I tend to do even like, you
know, porcelain and stuff for my

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water dishes just because
there's so much I don't know

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about steel.
And it's just one of those

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things that I haven't gone down
that rabbit hole.

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And I don't feel comfortable
promoting products like that

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because I haven't gone down that
rabbit hole.

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But yeah, China and India I
think are like the two most

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polluted countries on Earth, if
I, if I have that correct.

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I I think that's the case.
And I think, you know, if you

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noticed on, on a lot of labels,
they say where it's manufactured

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there, there's not an obligation
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But I think a sure sign of that
if a product is really, really,

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you know, that in all likelihood
it's, it's not being

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manufactured in the US at all.
So I, I just the pep platter to

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us is sort of the foundation of
health eating.

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If you're allowing your dog to
eat the way that they're too,

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then with all of these wonderful
fruit food products that are

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becoming available for pets
today, it's how you feed and

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what you feed coming together
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And that's a good match.
That's a really good match.

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It is.
Hi, Diane, by the way, thank you

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so much for jumping in and
saying hi.

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So.
There's one other thing I'd like

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to talk about and this this has
become more and more apparent

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because fast eating is such a
huge problem today.

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One of the most Oh, somebody's
around.

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She's like, yes, fast eating is
a problem.

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What is the most common problems
and I I saw some statistic like

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over half of pet parents talk to
their vets about their pet

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eating too fast and how to slow
them down.

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And the one good thing about the
pet platter is that this

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territory it's their own
personal feeding territory,

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which is why we call it the mine
pet platter.

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It's their personal territory.
But by spreading the food around

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into the rib pure and into the
scoops, which resemble the ends

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of bones, you're actually
naturally slowing down the

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feeding process, which actually
improves digestion.

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But you also get to a point of
allowing better nutrient

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absorption.
Because when the pet is eating

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so fast and either choking or
developing food bloat or

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whatever other problems emerge,
you want to make sure that the

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digestive process is a smooth
flowing one.

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And a lot of pets today are
getting food bloat, not GDV, but

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just building up all that air in
their stomach and and causing a

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real problem.
So I think that's why there's so

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many variations of slow feeders
today that are poking jabbing

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balls in the middle of the bowl,
you know, all these other

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things.
Whereas if we give them that

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territory resembling more of a
carcass, then you're letting

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it's naturally slowing them down
without any of those artificial

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things taking place because we
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It's it's one of my mantras now,
I said.

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Honor thy nose.
Honor thy nose.

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I love that.
So how I, you've kind of talked

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a little bit about this already,
but like, how is this?

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Because it to me does not look
like a carcass, right?

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But you've talked about the
crevices and the, the Ridge

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here, which I love to catch all
the liquids because I am huge on

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moisture.
Like I don't care what it is

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you're feeding.
I always want more moisture.

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And even if you're feeding like
the best, you know, raw food

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diet, I'm always adding moisture
to it, whether that's like a

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bone broth or a goat's milk or
whatever.

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So I love the the Ridge for that
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And my dog really loves going in
there and like looking all the

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way around.
So how how is can you be a

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little bit more specific on how
this is designed to be a little

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bit more like carcass feeding?
Number one is this is sort of

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the what would be considered a
stomach area, a prime area where

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they deconstruct the carcasses.
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that the pet parents can become
involved in putting organ meat

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and various aspects of what
would be opened up in a carcass,

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muscle meat and all the other
things and pushing it in to

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resemble the actual carcass.
And we have some pet parents who

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have sent great pictures of the
creativity is absolutely

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unbelievable.
Then the Ridge is here.

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This is to resemble sort of the
area of the rib cage of the

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where where they would go in and
sort of lick or pull meat from.

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And then the if it's here do
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And part of why we have these
multiple ones in is because we

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wanted more licking in which
releases the positive endorphins

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and causes more relaxation and
more rewarding behavior.

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So this actually.
But notice the size of the

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divots on large and small are
different.

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They were actually designed to
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the animal.
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So, so everything on the pet
platter, even within the bridge,

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there's no area where they
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And that's why it never leaves a
passive compulsive licking be

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able to get to the aptitude.
And believe me, most, most pet

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parents say I can't believe they
lick every single speck of food.

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And it was designed especially
that my late husband and I, when

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we started this journey, because
he was product design, we went

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through about 13 different
variations of this.

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And I know it looks simple now,
but where we started was quite

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contorted to get to where you
need to be.

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But simplicity is the best way a
good product comes about because

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it's easy for the dog to
maneuver.

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The other thing that's
important, and I'm sure some

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people who have been here have
heard me say this before, the

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worst place you can feed your
pet is in the corner of the

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kitchen.
And the reason for that is when

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they kill their prey in the
wild, they will stop and

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actually circle the animal to
make sure no other animal can

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come and get it.
And I've observed so many videos

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and even at the zoo where
sometimes we'll give the wolves

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like a rabbit inside a paper bag
or some sort of bag and they'll

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play with it, roll in it.
And because it's a prized

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possession, but another wolf can
come in and in under a second

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that rabbit will be gone just
so, so they, their core sensory

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elements are designed to protect
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And so by giving them control,
the pep platter, they circle,

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you never want to push them in a
corner because their eyes are at

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a 20° angle.
They're hearing, they hear at

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much higher frequency than we do
and at much further distances.

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So if they can't see periphery
vision and they're hearing all

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of these noises behind them, it
becomes a highly anxious feeding

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situation, which is why they'll
dump food out of their bowl,

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relocate it to another area.
Something of that effect.

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Did I?
Oh, no, you're good.

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You're good.
It's so interesting because even

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with my dog, who she is an only
dog and she doesn't like, we

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don't push her up against a
wall.

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But yes, Diane, it is for cats
as well.

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And I'm glad to hear that you're
your cat is I'm sorry.

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Diego's blood test came back
better today.

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So but like there is a wall kind
of next to the area where she

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eats and some of the items that
we will put on her platter to

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eat, she will grab them and take
them somewhere else.

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Like some of the more like she I
mean loves chicken hearts.

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So like that's her at one of her
absolute favorite things.

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She will grab it and take it
somewhere else to eat at and I'm

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wondering if it is because of
that Wall is like right there.

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Like she's not facing it, but
it's right.

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There it could be because they
typically position themselves in

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a way that if a threatening
situation comes about, they can

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leap out and above the pup
platter.

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So the way they position the
platter is most comfortable to

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them to protect their people,
but also if somebody comes in

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threatening to them, they can
get away.

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So with a bowl, they don't have
any decision to make.

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They're stuck with what that
position is.

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So you're literally opening up
their world where they have more

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control.
And in the wild, it is about

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control.
With animals, it's all about

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control.
Yeah, for sure.

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One of the things, since we're
talking about like an eating

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experience, which I think this
is definitely for our animals,

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one of the things I like to do
when it's like really nice

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outside is I will literally take
my dog into like the middle of

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the backyard.
So there's like nothing that was

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just trees and grass and put her
platter down and just let her

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walk around and do her thing and
eat and just enjoy being out in

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nature.
And like, that's one of my

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favorite things to do with her.
Great.

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Well, another thing that's fun
to do is especially with cat is

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we've had different pet parents
send in videos where they'll put

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a pet platter in a different
room and the cat will be up on

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the bookcase and then you see
him and he'll come down, pounce

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near the pet platter and then
dash off.

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And they play with it, you know,
for hours.

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And it's almost like it's their
prey in the wild.

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And, and we know how they love
to play with their actual prey

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when they kill it.
It's, it's that same variation.

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It's it's their feeding
territory.

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And the other thing I should
mention is the reason we have

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different colors, I don't know
if we've covered this before, is

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that both cats and dogs have a
different color spectrum than we

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do.
They have more rods than cones.

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So they can actually see and
differentiate between yellow,

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blue and Reds come off more as a
tan or a brown.

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So if you have more than one
pet, a cat and a dog, 2 cats or

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whatever your your case may be,
the platter the color you first

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serve your pet on is the color
they adopt on their own and

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they'll respect the color of the
other pet.

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And it eliminates food stealing
and food aggression as well.

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So that was part of the reason
we call it the pine pet platter.

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It really is their personal
feeding territory.

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And we even have pictures with
dogs sleeping by it, visiting

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it, all sorts of things.
So they they do bond with it and

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we help a lot of rescues as they
transition and they take their

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pet platter with them.
So coming into a new home, it

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reduces anxiety and gives them
that familiarity.

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So we try to work with a lot of
rescues to allow them to to have

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something to take with them into
the new homes as well.

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I love that because, yeah, it,
it is definitely something that

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as humans, like we especially in
the US, so many of us, most of

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us, we don't have that like food
scarcity issue.

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So we don't think about that
with our pets, even though we

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know that we know that their
next meal and the meal after

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that and the meal after that is
coming.

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They don't like this just part
of being an animal that you

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don't ever know when your next
meal is coming.

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Well, and.
And that's one of the things

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when, when people, you know,
sometimes we have people say,

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well, you know, dogs are
domesticated, Cats are cats are,

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are a unique breed because they
will go into a feral existence

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and survive just fine.
And they're predatory hunters

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and they do fine.
But even with dogs, people often

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say, well, my dog is really
domesticated.

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And I love bringing up the
example of a case where a one

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year old German Shepherd Husky
mix fell off of a fishing boat

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in Southern California and the
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And they did.
They searched for 8 hours, could

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not find the animal.
Coast Guard was looking for it

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and they really thought that the
dog had perished.

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And then lo and behold, on some
island that was not inhabited

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more for cell sites or whatever,
there was a maintenance crew out

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there and all of a sudden this
dog came charging at them and

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jumped into the truck.
Like I'm ready to go home now.

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That dog survived 5 weeks and
went through one of the worst

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storms ever recorded in that
area and was absolutely fine and

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survived on rodents and on fish.
So here is a domesticated dog.

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Never existed wild at all and
did just fine on his own.

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So we we always have to remember
to bring that in, that there's

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that little bit of wild in them
and I forgot where I was going

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to go.
What was I talking about?

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No, it's, it's totally, I mean,
we're just kind of going all

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around anyway.
So, well, Diane is asking.

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I don't know.
Do you ship outside of the US?

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We we will be in the UK.
We are planning next year to do

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that.
But if you can't site, we'll be

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able to direct you to somebody
who can get it sent to you.

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OK, because I know there are
like other retailers I don't

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know like Doctor Judy because I
think I actually bought all of

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mine from Doctor Judy's website
originally.

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So I, I kind of want to just
reiterate one thing that you

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said, because we talked about it
in two different areas, that

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licking is a very calming
behavior for animals, but you

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don't want them licking to
frustration.

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Right.
So there's that differentiation

450
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,440
there between.
There is.

451
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Calm plus licking I just.
Want I, I'm, I'm sure

452
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,280
everybody's experienced with
some pet or or heard about this

453
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,800
where a dog or a cat will lick a
part of their body to the point

454
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,360
where the fur is gone and it
starts to irritate the flesh

455
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,320
actually.
And also licking parts of

456
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,200
furniture.
That is the sort of thing that

457
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,240
you get operation or there's a
problem with the dog, that sort

458
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,960
of thing.
But relaxed, evenly paced

459
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,159
licking does release positive
endorphins and can have a very

460
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,719
calming act.
One veterinarian that I with in

461
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:20,360
Chicago got a rescue dog who had
such severe separation anxiety

462
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,480
that when she left, the dog
would tear down the curtains,

463
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,239
the blinds, the screen, I mean
just the would lose all control.

464
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:36,560
So she got AI told her get a
nut, but spread it all across

465
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:41,239
the surface of the pet platter,
put it in the middle room that

466
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,840
he usually, you know, tear us
apart and I promise you when you

467
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,199
get everything will be OK.
So she said you're going to have

468
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,199
to pay for new curtains if it
doesn't work.

469
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,520
And I said that's a deal, you
got it.

470
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,240
So she came back three hours
later as as she was leaving, the

471
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,120
dog was looking at her.
A little panic was setting.

472
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Came back, the nut butter was
off the pet platter and the dog

473
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:15,400
was asleep by the.
And so again, it's bonding with

474
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,720
her feeding territory.
It's the act of licking.

475
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,800
So you know, there's, there's
positive and negative to

476
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,160
everything in life.
All behaviors have positive and

477
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,880
negative in psychology and
principles you know basically

478
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,880
apply to pets as well.
So just a couple of other

479
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,600
things.
One, I did want to bring up the

480
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,760
fact that, you know, we both
have kind of talked a little bit

481
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,000
about the, you know, wonderful
raw food diets, but this is good

482
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,720
for it doesn't matter what
you're feeding.

483
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,720
Exactly.
You can actually feed on this.

484
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,840
There's no problem with that.
On our website.

485
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,720
We try to help people who have
all different feeding types and

486
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,600
try to help direct them to
places to learn more and more

487
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,920
about the types of diets that
will benefit our pets most.

488
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520
It's great for canned, it's
great for raw.

489
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:22,000
And the thing that I love too is
we're big proponents of goat's

490
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,280
milk and bone broth.
And so you can easily use it and

491
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,760
some pet parents will actually
put little, they'll make little

492
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,680
pools where you can pour a
little goat's milk or bone broth

493
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,200
in there, or you can even pour
it on and fit.

494
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,840
And it's great during the summer
or if you live in warmer

495
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:54,600
climates, it just acts like one
big popsicle and dogs and cats

496
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,880
just love licking it.
So you can put it in the

497
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,360
freezer.
There's no problem with that at

498
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,000
all.
It's good for for virtually

499
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,800
anything.
And because it's non porous it

500
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,000
you can put it in the
dishwasher.

501
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,520
There's no problem with that and
hand cleaning, whatever you want

502
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,960
to do.
But I think one of the other

503
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,400
things that we enjoy hearing
about from our pet parents is

504
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,640
that they tell us that it helps
them to be more creative and

505
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,560
kind of create more.
So what we're trying to do with

506
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,200
a lot of the food companies
today is for them to help

507
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,560
generate different ideas.
And we're also asking

508
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,880
veterinarians to put your
favorite menu together.

509
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,800
And we're sharing more and more
of that with people because my

510
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,000
idea it's, it's a great way that
you can start trying that at

511
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,520
home as well.
I love that and I I love that it

512
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,880
doesn't matter what you feel
that this can be beneficial.

513
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,320
So kind of selfishly, I would
love to just hear a story or two

514
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,200
about animals that you have
observed in the wild.

515
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,600
I want to hear like how they
actually go about eating a

516
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:23,520
carcass is that you described.
No, Well, it's how do I, I will

517
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,240
try to say this in a positive
way.

518
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,800
One of the things that all
wolves will do it it it sort of

519
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,680
depends on the size of the
animal that they go after as

520
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,560
well.
If they go after smaller animal

521
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,080
animals, that is not usually
done in a pact, it'll be done on

522
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,080
their own and when they go into
the carcass.

523
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:56,640
And by the way, you can go to
zoos and they have days where

524
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,640
they show carcass feeding and
and they will actually put a

525
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,800
whole animal out there, again
depending on what's available

526
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,720
and you can watch the animal
deconstruct.

527
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:19,560
It's usually more of a herd pack
mentality and you can see them

528
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,960
ripping various parts of the
animal down and if it's a very

529
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,480
large animal the they do go for
the limbs but they know

530
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,600
instinctively they go at organ
meat.

531
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,960
That is the prized possession.
And I've even observed some

532
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:47,600
animals who will pull out the
key organ parts and line it up

533
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:55,640
in the snow and you know,
selectively eat or the other

534
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,320
members of the pack will eat.
It's fascinating.

535
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:06,760
Just like there's no single way
of eating but the the organ meat

536
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,600
is nutrient dense so they
instinctively know to go after

537
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,800
that first.
And they do pull the muscle meat

538
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:25,600
from the bones, and they even
eat the fur for fiber, which is

539
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,680
a big component of that.
So really it is the skeleton is

540
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,320
literally left.
They they use pretty much

541
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:42,040
everything that that's there.
And depending on the animals, a

542
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:48,000
lot of times when they go after
like Buffalo, those animals, it

543
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
takes five to six to seven hours
to kill.

544
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,880
They they're not capable of
killing a large animal just

545
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,640
simply by attacking, usually by
wearing them out, getting them

546
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:10,720
to go into areas where they'll
sink in the mud or walk.

547
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:17,880
And so they will circle, keep
the animal off to the side away

548
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,560
from the rest of their herd and
basically wear it down to a

549
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:29,240
point of exhaustion.
And the way they usually do is

550
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:35,960
to go for the neck to break and
suffocate.

551
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,960
But for larger animals, the wolf
will also sometimes put their

552
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,080
mouth over the nose of the
animal to basically facilitate

553
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,840
it passing.
So it depends on, you know,

554
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,880
Africa versus in really cold
weather out in Wyoming.

555
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:03,800
It it's different all the time,
but Oregon meat goes first than

556
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480
the meat.
It's sort of like a hierarchy of

557
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,760
what is most, most prized.
But also they know instinctively

558
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,680
what nutrients their body needs.
And that's why you see them

559
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
going after different elements,
1st and 2nd.

560
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,680
And what's really large animals,
if they can't eat it all, they

561
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:32,960
will go and bury the meat.
And if they become hungry during

562
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520
the winter months, they will go
back to that.

563
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:41,360
Most likely the IT will be, you
know, with maggots and things of

564
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:47,720
that sort, but they'll eat it. 5
So I'm sorry, did I?

565
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,040
No, I think it's fascinating.
I like to go into too much

566
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,400
detail because I know we'll get
a little.

567
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,960
You know, for a number of
reasons because, you know, if we

568
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:05,800
really do pay attention, if that
is part of the education of

569
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,560
feeding our animals, then I
think it, you know, it just

570
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,600
makes so much more sense to play
with them, take them on a walk,

571
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,120
do the thing, you know, a hike,
whatever it is that you're doing

572
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,800
that activity with your dog for
that day.

573
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,280
And then them because we are
again, not just using a special

574
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,640
platter that's going to mimic a
carcass, but we're also giving

575
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,120
them the full experience or as
much as we can with, you know,

576
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,240
how we Live Today with getting
them kind of worn out with that

577
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,760
and where they would normally be
hunting their prey and then

578
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,640
eating.
You brought up a real important

579
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,720
point.
Basically they spent 95% of

580
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,440
their time in the wild hunting,
tracking, killing,

581
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,920
deconstructing.
Their whole life revolved around

582
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,800
that single event.
And that's why the one thing I

583
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,000
tried to tell appearances
feeding from a bowl.

584
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,120
We have taken a lifetime, the
majority of the a day involved

585
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,760
in the meal time and reduced it
to a couple of minutes.

586
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,200
And that's that's the tragedy
when you feed from a bowl.

587
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,760
And the best analogy I can give
is when you feed your your pet

588
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,320
from a bowl, it's like you're
feeding yourself from a fast

589
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,240
food container.
When you do that, you eat very

590
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,640
fast.
You don't really appreciate what

591
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,280
you're eating and you're
probably hungry 5 to 10 minutes

592
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,440
later, which is why most dogs
will inhale their food, lay down

593
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,400
right by the bowl.
It's over and we've taken the

594
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,080
excitement away.
So I I think you're absolutely

595
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,920
right.
Make sure they get enough

596
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,680
exercise.
Make sure we make up for that

597
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,840
time where they would spend 10
to 12 hours a day, you know,

598
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,840
hunting a Buffalo and running
and run up to 50 miles an hour.

599
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,720
I mean, they, they were
incredible creatures.

600
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:25,120
And our dogs, even though
they're smaller, they retain

601
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,360
those same things.
They don't have a survival

602
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,480
instinct.
If the dog feels threatened,

603
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,360
he's going to turn no matter how
much you've domesticated them.

604
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,360
There's feast and famine.
Some people will say my dog got

605
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,400
into a bag of dog food, a large
one ate the whole thing.

606
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,480
How could they do that?
Easter famine, Nature has

607
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,920
programmed them you better eat
everything you can because you

608
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,360
don't know when your next meal
is going to be.

609
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,840
And then the whole hunt, prey
instinct.

610
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,840
I even though my little Havanese
was only £14.00, if she saw a

611
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,840
rabbit she was off and running,
you know, and nothing was going

612
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,520
to stop her, not even me.
So there are three core

613
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,480
instincts that we can
immediately identify with within

614
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,400
our own dogs that is associated
with their ancestors.

615
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Their jaws are smaller, their
teeth are not exactly the same

616
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,440
as the Gray wolf, but they're
still designed for meat eating

617
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,360
to tear things apart and, and to
go after fairly large animals.

618
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:42,440
So when you look at the overall
Physiology, the resemblance

619
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,520
between the Gray wolf and the
dog is the same.

620
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,000
And for cats, cats are even more
homogeneous.

621
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,360
Their genome is almost
identical.

622
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,960
The major trait that is
different is what is on their

623
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,760
coats.
If it's striped, they came from

624
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,000
more grassland, if it's a solid
color, it was more open terrain

625
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,240
and if it's spotted it, they
were in the forest.

626
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,000
But their coats are the main
difference for cats.

627
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,320
That's about it.
And that's why they can go into

628
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,520
a feral existence almost
instantaneously.

629
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:35,320
So, so, so cats in particular,
think about them being predatory

630
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,040
animals.
They haunted alone.

631
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:45,400
They're designed to be able,
well, they're whiskers in

632
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840
particular.
And that's another benefit.

633
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,840
With the pet platter, you don't
have whisker fatigue, and

634
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,120
whiskers are embedded three
times deeper into their skin.

635
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,880
And so when things are pushing
on to those whiskers, they feel

636
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,480
that deep down inside.
And I've even talked to some pet

637
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,520
parents who say that when their
pets were eating, they'd

638
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,320
actually see like, tears coming
down because the overstimulation

639
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,080
was so severe it became painful
to that cat.

640
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,320
All cats don't experience the
same whisper fatigue.

641
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,880
It can be different across the
board.

642
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,880
So.
So by allowing them to let their

643
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,160
whiskers, you know, operate and
they have proprioceptors at the

644
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:45,360
tips of their whispers that is
always looking, gauging for prey

645
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,960
and threats.
They're very sensitive.

646
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,440
It can look at air temperature,
air current directions of wind,

647
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,760
all those certain things.
So even for cats, you got to

648
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,280
look at your cat and say nature
design do your sensory circuit

649
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,120
is designed for survival and to
kill prey.

650
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,080
Yeah, and they do, they hunt
like all day long.

651
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,400
They they will hunt mice or
rabbit or birds or whatever.

652
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Like literally they're in
anytime they're awake.

653
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,480
They're.
Hunting Well, cats.

654
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Domestic cats basically kill 20%
more prey than any other animal

655
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,720
if they are to be outdoors, 20%
more.

656
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:43,920
Which and there was a really
fascinating study, I forgot what

657
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:50,760
scientific journal it was in,
but they allowed, they tested a

658
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,120
number of different foods with
cats and they found out what

659
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,600
food or it was chicken or salmon
or or whatever the case was.

660
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:08,200
So they had the cat at in this
maze like situation with a bowl

661
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,000
of that food.
Then they would put a live mouse

662
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:19,480
at another part of the maze and
the cat, they stop eating the

663
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,600
food, go and kill the mouse,
bring the mouse back, put the

664
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,120
mouse next to the bowl and would
continue eating its food then

665
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,160
and again.
It's that predatory nature.

666
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,480
It's opportunistic hunting.
If it's available, they're going

667
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,880
to go and kill it.
But by golly, they brought it

668
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,360
back and continued on with their
meal.

669
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,920
Fascinating creatures.
It really they are my cats.

670
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Will I?
I I try to just let nature be

671
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,880
nature and not intervene as much
as possible.

672
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,600
When I lived in Escondido, CA, I
had never experienced scorpions

673
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,760
before, but my cats killed a ton
of them.

674
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,440
And here I'm in north of Austin
right now.

675
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,120
We get, I, I swear we have
cricket season.

676
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,440
We, there are just so many
crickets around and they will

677
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,480
get into my cat room and I will
just see my cats like jumping up

678
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,880
to like these crickets are
jumping and my cats are jumping

679
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,480
up and I'm like, you go right
ahead.

680
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Like, I am sorry Mr. Cricket.
But apparently this was the This

681
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,760
is your destiny.
That's fabulous.

682
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,320
That's fabulous.
They're such interesting

683
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,600
creatures.
They are, and I encourage

684
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,360
everybody to go to the zoo and
observe them.

685
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:58,040
And you know, zookeepers love it
when people are really

686
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,760
interested in learning more
about these animals.

687
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,920
And you know, they'll let you
know when feeding times are

688
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,480
going to be, when they're going
to do special events with them,

689
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,720
whatever.
But go to your local zoos.

690
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:19,200
It's a wealth of information and
I strongly recommend everybody

691
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,560
observing at least one carcass
feeding.

692
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,640
It will give you a whole new
appreciation on how they're

693
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,880
really programmed to survive in
the wild.

694
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:40,120
And if we just take more time to
observe our dogs eating, I mean,

695
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,400
I think everybody first thing
should observe how your dog or

696
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,720
cat eats for the next few meals.
Just take some time.

697
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,480
Look at what they're doing.
Are they moving around?

698
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,240
Do they seem anxious?
Are they enjoying their meal?

699
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,240
Because the one thing we can
give back to them is that

700
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,480
enjoying that factor and
allowing them to experience

701
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,680
things.
And another factor I should

702
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:12,920
bring up, which a lot of people
don't know is that dogs and cats

703
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:21,840
have very few taste buds.
Cats have I think 473, dogs have

704
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:29,400
1700, we have 9000.
We're driven by our taste buds.

705
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:36,200
So the problem is when you're
putting food down, if you're

706
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:42,240
putting it in a bowl that is
hiding all the different smells

707
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,040
that could be coming out,
especially if you're doing raw

708
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,800
feeding and pudding, organ meat
and everything else.

709
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,120
Because the dog is the food is
is held hostage in the bowl.

710
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,920
They can't really get to it by
allowing them to sniff out the

711
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,640
food on the pep platter.
That's the way our dogs taste

712
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,240
their food is through the sense
of smell, and with cats in

713
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:15,760
particular, cats have a more
sensitive nose than dogs do.

714
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,480
They have V1R receptors which
help differentiate between

715
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,240
smells.
They have 30, dogs have around

716
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,760
9, we have 3.
Something like that.

717
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:36,000
It explains why cats like really
aromatic foods because they're

718
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,800
able to taste the food
basically.

719
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:46,160
And going back to honor thy
nose, this is another reason.

720
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:51,720
If you want your dog and cat to
enjoy their meal, make sure you

721
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:56,480
spread out the food and the
different elements so they can

722
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,200
actually smell what's in front
of them.

723
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,200
And importantly, they'll tell
you what they like.

724
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:08,080
First, second and third.
Yeah, food.

725
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,600
Selection.
Yeah, I was a couple of years

726
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,880
ago, I think for Kim's birthday,
my dog's birthday.

727
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,920
I did like a little like, like a
charcuterie board almost, where

728
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,600
I put all these different things
on.

729
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,800
It was very interesting to see
what she went for and what she

730
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,160
didn't and like the order she
went in it.

731
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,440
It was absolutely fascinating.
I already knew, like she's not

732
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,080
big into vegetables or fruits or
anything like that.

733
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,920
She wouldn't blueberries at all.
She's like, no, yeah, I which,

734
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,600
you know, I try so many
different things because I, the

735
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,680
dogs I had before her would eat
blueberries, but only if I cut

736
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,480
them open.
Like if I had to hand them one

737
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,560
hole.
No, thank you.

738
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,600
But if I cut it open then OK,
they were good.

739
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,120
Oh my.
Goodness, it is.

740
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,120
It's really interesting, I
think.

741
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:12,760
I mean, it's just something fun
for you as a human to do, but

742
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,240
you gain so much insight into
what your animal likes that you

743
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:22,200
can make their food choices
moving forward like that much

744
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,440
more enjoyable for them.
Right.

745
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,680
So where?
Where can people find you?

746
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,480
Where can people get their hands
on their own pet platters?

747
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:37,880
OK, we're we sell them online.
Doctor Judy sells them.

748
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:46,040
We have a list of retailers also
on website and you could also

749
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:51,400
get it directly from us.
You can go to mine MINE pet

750
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:58,480
platter.com and order directly
and we will have some exciting

751
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,120
news.
We will be coming out with some

752
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:06,200
additional products and just to
go we're you're going to be one

753
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:12,120
of the 1st that we're going to
notify about those products and

754
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:21,680
it pertains to a water device as
well as some other things.

755
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,240
So I'll just leave it there.
We want it to be a big surprise.

756
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,480
I love that and I love surprises
and I will post the link in my

757
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,480
stories.
We can just click and go over

758
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,720
and I think you told me that
people can get a little extra

759
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,920
discount.
Yes.

760
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,600
Yes.
So is the coupon Jessica

761
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,360
something right?
Jessica Penn and we know how

762
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,320
much information you bring to
the pet world.

763
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,440
We so appreciate everything you
do and all the time you invest

764
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,360
in that.
So because Jessica is so special

765
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:08,360
to us, if you put in Jessica 10
at our checkout online, you'll

766
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,000
get 10% off.
You're so sweet.

767
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Thank you so much.
I'll put that in my stories as

768
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,840
well, so people can just click
and go over there and check it

769
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,400
out.
I, I think it's, it's great.

770
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,640
I think it's great for dogs.
I think it's great for cats.

771
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,160
I love like you gave us so much,
so many tips, so much great

772
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,720
information.
Especially like every animal

773
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,280
having their own feeding
territory.

774
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,400
That is so crucial, especially
if you have you know, if you

775
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,920
have a multi pet household, you
want all of your pets to know

776
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,000
that like they don't have to be
fighting each other for food,

777
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,480
like that's a thing and.
Remember, honor thy nose, right?

778
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Honor thy nose.
I love that.

779
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,800
That needs to be like on AT
shirt or something.

780
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,440
Honor thy nose.
All right, Carol.

781
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,880
To do that.
I appreciate everything that you

782
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,200
do, everything that you have
done, all of the incredible

783
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,160
research that went into this
product.

784
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,000
I love all the behind the scenes
of like the why of everything

785
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,720
so.
Well, thank you.

786
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,960
I so appreciate being on your
show and look forward to seeing

787
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720
you soon.
I'll be coming to Texas to visit

788
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,760
my daughter, so we'll
definitely.

789
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,520
I love that.
All right guys, please check out

790
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,600
mine pet platter.com.
I will put it in my stories.

791
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Go follow Carol as well.
And until next time.

792
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Thanks everybody.